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lovelamers
05-30-2003, 06:14 PM
why do you think didnt vader find yoda ?

Writer
05-30-2003, 06:25 PM
Maybe he was too busy doing other stuff. Remember, he didn't find Obi-Wan either. Obi found him.

ZBomber
05-30-2003, 07:14 PM
*shrugs*
Yoda probably did something with the Force to blind Vader.... Who knows. Maybe he did know where he was. Yoda would kick Vader's ass if Vader tried to kill yoda. ;)

Thrackan Solo
05-30-2003, 07:21 PM
Vader knew Yoda would kick his arse!:) :rhett: even a high Yoda could kill "little Ani":)

Grilled-Sarlacc
05-30-2003, 07:32 PM
Actaully, the most supported reason was that a powerful dark jedi (forgot his name) died on Dagobah near a huge tree. And the tree absoarbed (or sumthing like that) the dark force, thus the dark force outweighed the light force that Yoda gave off and Vader never sensed him.

zERoCooL2479
05-30-2003, 07:33 PM
I heard a theory about the whole "cave" thing on Dagobah masked Yoda's presence. What do you guys think?

Grilled-Sarlacc
05-30-2003, 07:34 PM
Yeah that's what I was kinda saying...

Tesla
05-30-2003, 07:35 PM
Right time to settle this,

Yoda previous to the events of EP1 had been on a mission to dagobah and had battled a sith and in killing the sith a dark side prescene remained so when the empire came to power yoda knowing that the emperor or his minions like vader would not be able to feel his light side presence due to the dark side evil which was still present on dagobah, that's pretty much what i have learned from the Star Wars Offical Website (www.starwars.com) :)

zERoCooL2479
05-30-2003, 07:36 PM
Ah...So we both right :)

Grilled-Sarlacc
05-30-2003, 07:38 PM
Sweet deal.

Breton
05-30-2003, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by Tesla Trooper
Right time to settle this,

Yoda previous to the events of EP1 had been on a mission to dagobah and had battled a sith and in killing the sith a dark side prescene remained so when the empire came to power yoda knowing that the emperor or his minions like vader would not be able to feel his light side presence due to the dark side evil which was still present on dagobah, that's pretty much what i have learned from the Star Wars Offical Website (www.starwars.com) :)

That can't be right.

"Impossible, the Sith have been extinct for a millennium.", remember? Ki-Adi-Mundi said that. So Yoda can't have battled any sith before Dooku in his lifetime!

Tesla
05-30-2003, 08:03 PM
Well that's what it says on the website, and it probarly was a sith who had been in hiding or something who knows????

Thrackan Solo
05-30-2003, 08:05 PM
Ah...I remeber hearing that. That is were Luke went into the cave. the Cave is were yoda killed the dark jedi. (I think it was a dark jedi) not sith

Breton
05-30-2003, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Tesla Trooper
Well that's what it says on the website, and it probarly was a sith who had been in hiding or something who knows????

Well, Yoda would've known if he had killed a Sith, right? When the movies and the website comes with different information, you just have to trust the movies.

Ah...I remeber hearing that. That is were Luke went into the cave. the Cave is were yoda killed the dark jedi. (I think it was a dark jedi) not sith

That is certainly possible, of course. But dark jedi aren't mentioned in the movies, and are EU unless Lucas have confirmed that Yoda killed a dark jedi.

Tesla
05-30-2003, 08:13 PM
Most EU isn't written by GL , but since yoda is 1 of the most curical characters he probalry wrote this. :)

Breton
05-30-2003, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by Tesla Trooper
Most EU isn't written by GL , but since yoda is 1 of the most curical characters he probalry wrote this. :)

But GL probably wrote "Impossible, the Sith have been extinct for a millennium." too. Man, that guy has to make up his mind about sith soon.

Grilled-Sarlacc
05-30-2003, 08:25 PM
Heh i'm still sticking with my theory...

Thrackan Solo
05-30-2003, 08:36 PM
Well the dark jedi are just another form of the force either light or dark. . sith is almost like a club for Dark Jed or cult.

boinga1
05-30-2003, 08:52 PM
"Who cares? Out of sight, out of minds," said Emperor Palpatine.

BigTeddyPaul
05-30-2003, 09:13 PM
It is true. I don't remember if Yoda killed him but a battle between light and dark did take place where the dark dude died. That created a negative force spot just like the spot where Vader's Body was burned. In one of the books there is a whole explination of all this. I don't know what happened at Tatooine to make Obi hide but they did divulge Yoda's ability to hide especially since he was the top jedi master.

BigTeddyPaul

RoguePhotonic
05-30-2003, 09:17 PM
Yoda couldn't do anything if vadar did find him....yoda knows that he is supposed to bring balance to the force....that's why yoda never went after him anyway.....

Breton
05-30-2003, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by BigTeddyPaul
It is true. I don't remember if Yoda killed him but a battle between light and dark did take place where the dark dude died. That created a negative force spot just like the spot where Vader's Body was burned. In one of the books there is a whole explination of all this. I don't know what happened at Tatooine to make Obi hide but they did divulge Yoda's ability to hide especially since he was the top jedi master.

BigTeddyPaul

But as long as it isn't in the movies, it's still EU, and it can't be defined as true. Just as dark jedi are EU.

BigTeddyPaul
05-30-2003, 10:29 PM
That is your opinion. Some people believe in only the cannon of Star Wars (moives only) and some people believe that EU is as relevant as the movies because overall GL had to approve it. Some people believe that the movies override all and the EU is only there to answer some questions but does not take priority because GL did not write it.

BigTeddyPaul

munik
05-30-2003, 10:34 PM
Tesla Trooper just gave a link to the starwars site, instead of the correct page (http://www.starwars.com/databank/location/dagobah/eu.html). It does say it's EU, and it does say Dark Jedi, not Sith. So it's not canon, but that doesn't matter in this case because it doesn't conflict with the movie as some have stated.

Grilled-Sarlacc
05-31-2003, 03:31 AM
Loads of people think EU is cannon....but i think not.

Tesla
05-31-2003, 12:41 PM
Well personally for me some EU is cool like kyle katarn, but others like the vong for me is stupid because they KILLED chewie :( ,and they have weapons like so they can create blackholes :confused: what's that all about ??? And they come from another galaxy ??? what, isn't the star wars galaxy enough ??? EU authors in some aspects ruin what the franchise is about. what next death of luke. :mad:

Grilled-Sarlacc
05-31-2003, 02:03 PM
Well Luke is human......But witht eh Vong and whatnot, it adds excitement to Star Wars. Chewie couldn't have been around for ever....Still I enjoy the EU despite the ludicris things that go on in it.

Darth Eggplant
06-01-2003, 02:42 AM
I heard lots of storm troopers couldn't see much out of their helmets. Yoda must have snuck up close just out of eye sight.
maybe sat on one of vaders boots and just took a ride on the dark side.:D

Reborn Outcast
06-01-2003, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by Tesla Trooper
Well personally for me some EU is cool like kyle katarn, but others like the vong for me is stupid because they KILLED chewie :( ,and they have weapons like so they can create blackholes :confused: what's that all about ??? And they come from another galaxy ??? what, isn't the star wars galaxy enough ??? EU authors in some aspects ruin what the franchise is about. what next death of luke. :mad:

I agree about the "other galaxy" part. I mean, c'mon they still have a trillion systems or so in the Unknown Regions to explore. And in "Vision of the Future" when Mara is talking to the Chiss, they're talking about the "hundreds of things out there that would curdle your blood" or something like that. That one sentence could have been the basis for tens of other Star Wars books. :mad:

zERoCooL2479
06-01-2003, 11:06 PM
Wasn't Obi-Wan Stationed or "ordered" to stay on Tattooine to watch over Luke. In case any harm was to come to him? It makes sense, no?

Hyperglide
06-02-2003, 02:30 AM
Did you ever think maybe that Vader that Luke fight's is just an illusion, much like Obi-Wan, and Yoda is like?

I don't believe this theory that there's a slain dark jedi that's occupying this land which prevents Yoda from being forseen by the force. Hell Luke found him right? How did Luke find him? Because Obi Wan told him. Well how did Obi Wan know this? Probably because he sensed it or Yoda told him I guess we'll find out in Ep. 3.

What I think is that Darth Vader simply had no real legitmate reason to find Yoda. All of the Jedi excluding Yoda were extinct and Yoda was old and decripit anyways... I could see vanquishing him at his advanced age would be much simpler for Vader but why bother? Let nature take it's course.

Also I don't think Vader's powers were strong enough to search the whole damn galaxy for Yoda's presense anyways. He could barely sense Obi-Wans presense when he was on the Death Star in Episode 4.

That's my theory. That' there is no damn theory.

munik
06-02-2003, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by Hyperglide
What I think is that Darth Vader simply had no real legitmate reason to find Yoda. All of the Jedi excluding Yoda were extinct and Yoda was old and decripit anyways... I could see vanquishing him at his advanced age would be much simpler for Vader but why bother? Let nature take it's course.I thought that the Jedi were hunted down and killed by Vader, or by his orders. Wouldn't that be reason enough to hunt down Yoda, possible one of the most powerful Jedi? As for being old and decrepit, he's something like 900 years old, right? 20 years is but a drop in the bucket to someone that old, yet about 20 years before Yoda died he participated in the battle of geonosis, and he didn't appear too decrepit then, did he?

BigTeddyPaul
06-02-2003, 03:08 AM
It isn't a theory it is in a Star Wars book. How the book tells it was that a person who was paid to go to worlds and survey them went to Dagobah, then labeled something like Planet Y23ks2l, and was scared !@#$%^&*. There was a rumor that a battle took place a long time ago between two jedi. One dark and one light where the dark was destroyed and the light dude went ? It is in a book I have read it I just have read so many I don't know which one. Also it doesn't say Yoda if I remember correctly but it would be logical to assume it is Yoda since he lived there.

And your thing about how did Obi find Yoda and not Vader is a crock. First Obi is "One with the Force" and there is no telling what that leads to other than speaking after death. Yoda could have told Obi where he was going or something. It was not imperrative for all the jedi to be destroyed by the Empire if they chose exile, service for the Empire, or were not worth destroying.

BigTeddyPaul

Reborn Outcast
06-02-2003, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by BigTeddyPaul
It isn't a theory it is in a Star Wars book. How the book tells it was that a person who was paid to go to worlds and survey them went to Dagobah, then labeled something like Planet Y23ks2l, and was scared !@#$%^&*. There was a rumor that a battle took place a long time ago between two jedi. One dark and one light where the dark was destroyed and the light dude went ? It is in a book I have read it I just have read so many I don't know which one. Also it doesn't say Yoda if I remember correctly but it would be logical to assume it is Yoda since he lived there.

It was in "Vision of the Future" and Cardaas (sp) and his smuggler crew was captured by a Dark Jedi who killed all of them but Cardaas. They landed on Dagobah only to find Yoda there. Yoda and the Dark Jedi fought or days and Yoda won and nursed Cardaas back to life.

Originally posted by Breton
But GL probably wrote "Impossible, the Sith have been extinct for a millennium." too. Man, that guy has to make up his mind about sith soon.

But they weren't... Kai only THOUGHT that. Why, there were 2 Siths sitting right under his nose in Ep 1 but he still thought they were extinct. GL wrote it to show the ignorance of the Jedi.

Tesla
06-02-2003, 10:45 AM
Jesus Reborn Outcast ,you've done your homework ;)

Breton
06-02-2003, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by Reborn Outcast

But they weren't... Kai only THOUGHT that. Why, there were 2 Siths sitting right under his nose in Ep 1 but he still thought they were extinct. GL wrote it to show the ignorance of the Jedi.

I know that they weren't really extinct. I was just showing that after what the Jedi council, included Yoda, knew, there was nothing that gave them reason to think there was a sith. Thus, Yoda can't have fought a sith before Dooku.