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Bottletop
06-15-2003, 01:21 AM
hi -I've been trying to get good at lunging. I played a guy named xexx that owns the piss outa me when we lunge. I tried to improve my lunging by writing a script and messin with my view. I added speed to the script which makes it smoother. I changed my fov to 100 which helps a lot to see dudes behind you. I use
+speed;+forward;+movedown;+attack

I still get owned though. I think i need a script that will change my view to directly above my guy or a script that lunges twice in a row or something. I can't seem to win. lol

any ideas how to improve lunging?

gt r?
06-15-2003, 01:37 AM
i think best way is to PRATICE!!?....scripts wont help u ull still be a lunging noob...just train and learn by yourself thats what i did and i pwn at lunging.

Prime
06-15-2003, 01:43 AM
Indeed. Scripts are the fastest way to becoming a mediocre player. A little practice goes a long way...

Bottletop
06-15-2003, 01:45 AM
no-you'd be surprised how much scripting it helps. I used to use walk on my mouse to lunge so i could do it really fast. Then you start playing players who have it scripted and are really good and you really don't have a chance at beating them...let's say u lunge at the same time and do equal damage. An instant later the guy with the scriptied lunge hits ya again-it's so fast you could never do it manueling.
in essence-scripted lung really helps you out. Not to mention when you go on and someone out lunges you it is probably bc it is scripted. Why would you want to press 4 nbuttons-walk, crouch, forwad, and attack-when all you really need to do it press one button. I can't possible see why that would be better, but if you really think it is better to do it that way- more power to you



o-when i say i get owned-i just meaned by one guy. no other lungers ever give me that many problems or at least it';s an even fight. Xexx on the other hand uses his lunge like it has a targetting system-he justn charges you and no matter what direction u go he hits you then keeps on hitting you with the shortest possible delay between them,. I've seen him miss a lunge and be like 180 degrees behind him- right after that lunge is done he'll do like an instant 180 or 150 or whatever it is and nail the person. no allignment or anything it's like one motion

Bottletop
06-15-2003, 02:37 AM
how can i change my view to directly above me and so it's zoomed out?

Rockstar
06-15-2003, 03:34 AM
i'll tell you

you stop being a losing little noob and stop whinging and get used to the game like everyone else

....... your not even a padawan lol your just sad lol

Bottletop
06-15-2003, 03:58 AM
lol wtf was i whining about by the way? i was askin a question

yolkboy
06-15-2003, 04:30 AM
Scripts can only get you so far. Like Evil said "Practice". That's in anything in life as well. If you don't practice, you will never get better. Just create a server yourself, maybe add some bots, and just practice lunging on them. It's all about timing. When to crouch, when to move forward and when to attack. When you do get the timing right, it is more rewarding plus gives you the flexibility to do different combos in any situation.

Sam Fisher
06-15-2003, 04:41 AM
A word of caution, if you use scripts too much, some people will kick/ban you from servers for no reason whatsoever. And do it the easy way, just train yourself, it works best.

Bottletop
06-15-2003, 04:52 AM
As for lunge-ya i don't use it like that. I can beat lungers with red or yellow for the most part because i kinda found a great counter for it. But i can't beat one person's lol. I thknk that...maybe he is using an auto aim cheat. i don't know...i have heard that with these...u will roll if u go side to side...this person tends to move only forward and backwards..who knows. I need to find a better zoom though so i hacve a better chane. gonna mess with cg_thirdperson.

as for not binding lunge-if ytou think there is an advantage to pressing four buttons at opnce instead of one-i assure you it's not

yolkboy-hmmm i don't know. I have lunged a butch..you only get so good even withg a good script and using a fov 100 which helps. I need some new ideas. zooming way out and having a head view would help

yolkboy
06-15-2003, 05:43 AM
I'm not sure how to change camera angles... sorry :(

Bottletop
06-15-2003, 05:47 AM
ice? aren't u a sin?

Luc Solar
06-15-2003, 05:58 AM
Originally posted by Bottletop
as for not binding lunge-if ytou think there is an advantage to pressing four buttons at opnce instead of one-i assure you it's not


Exactly. And that's why I like to call it by it's real name.......*drumroll*........ CHEATING. :D

Making the comp do your moves or aim for you is cheating plain and simple. Shame-shame... :disaprove

If you use a script that chooses the force power setting for you, fine - who cares. But special moves *are supposed to* require aim, timing and dexterity. Binding a series of moves on a single key is cheating in it's most obvious form.

*puts on flame protection gear*

TK_Nutritious
06-15-2003, 11:07 AM
you can't change camera angles or zoom unless cheats are enabled

Sam Fisher
06-15-2003, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Luc Solar

*puts on flame protection gear*



You will not get flamed because that is the truth!

Bottletop
06-15-2003, 05:42 PM
hmm..no scripting lunge don't hurt anything..it's a lame move to begin with and is mostly used as a retaliation to people that lunge me using scripted lunge. If they lunge me and it's not scripted -then they suck at it anyway and will lose no matter what i lost. The game has enough depth that changing a four button obsurdity to one button, and of course, you can't win against a good scripter if you don't have a good script yourself...i don't like dying.

Semicolon
06-15-2003, 07:13 PM
Well bro, the best way to improve is practice, practice, and yet more practice. The lunge is my favorite move and quite effective. Keep at it and you'll have it down in no time!

Bottletop
06-15-2003, 10:00 PM
I'm startin to think he uses an auto aim hack. if he moves side to side he rolls. I still want a better view though

lllKyNeSlll
06-15-2003, 11:12 PM
[edit: bill sorry kynes, we've had a policy of not allowing ppl to post scripts here, so im gonna have to edit this one out]

best way to improve is practice. but there is a limit to practice, the rest depends on your configuration and settings of keys and natural aptitude (talent).

I will say that this script makes run lunges much easier than doing it manually.

Bottletop
06-16-2003, 01:51 AM
what i miss something some guy posted for me? where can i go to get scripts if not here then?

mr2turbo
06-19-2003, 05:53 AM
what exactly is +speed, and what is fov 100?

btw i use just +movedown,+forward,+attack...

Tosh_UK
06-19-2003, 07:37 AM
its not even that hard to learn so why script... Ooo yea cus ya a fag

Tosh_UK
06-19-2003, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by TK_Nutritious
you can't change camera angles or zoom unless cheats are enabled sorry to go off topic guys but WB Nut and you back playing yet?

Matariel
06-19-2003, 04:29 PM
scripting moves really is cheating, it gives an unfair advantage to you, because everybody else doesnt have the script. Any mod that makes it easier to play the game is a cheat.

This goes waay back to the days of TF (the REAL TF, back in quake1) where people could script a whole bunch of moves in a row (rocketjump -> grenades -> rocketjump -> spin360 shooting nailgun etc etc) it just got nuts, and totally unfair. It was like the players were hardly playing at all, the scripts were doing all the fighting for them. That is not gaming.

Dont get me wrong, i like to win, but not by cheating. I also hate loosing, but i dont mind so much if its a fair fight.
Using scripts make it an unfair fight, therefore if i ever see someone using a script on a server i have admin for -> Kick/Ban
and i think all other admins should do the same.

And yeah, you cant change FOV in JK2 unless sv_cheats = 1, so theres ya cheating right there...
And why is this thread here by the way?!?

mr2turbo
06-19-2003, 05:19 PM
well the only script i would ever use is lunge, its the only one ive found thats any real use to me...and besides everyone knows and and ive seen like 23452352 ppl use it including on demos on this forum. and is the command for fov cg_fov or cg_zoomfov?

lllKyNeSlll
06-19-2003, 05:37 PM
scripting moves really only works with saber. rocket script is crap.

the truth is, scripting only does so much. 99% of players can use a scripted kick or lunge, yet they still won't beat me.

Stormtrooper X
06-19-2003, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by lllKyNeSlll
scripting moves really only works with saber. rocket script is crap.

the truth is, scripting only does so much. 99% of players can use a scripted kick or lunge, yet they still won't beat me.

Don't be too sure.

Semicolon
06-19-2003, 06:58 PM
Heh. I'd like to take on some scripters myself....Nothing beats pure skill.

yolkboy
06-19-2003, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Bottletop
ice? aren't u a sin?
?:confused:? I know a person named sin.

mr2turbo
06-20-2003, 01:21 AM
please disregard my last post..i figured it out.