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RpTheHotrod
06-25-2003, 03:49 AM
If your friends betray you, if you are never accepted, if luck is plain not on your side, if there's no one to love you, you've lost hope, I ask this... what reason is there to live? What keeps us going?

icefox98
06-25-2003, 04:42 AM
One reason.

When you die, you lose. It's game over. No more credits. Nothing more happens. You are GONE.

Bad things happening is a whole of a hell lot better than not existing.

Kurgan
06-25-2003, 05:22 AM
Then there's the great unknown... what if there's a hell?

What if you failed the test and something worse has to happen? Why not give yourself another chance? (to say nothing of the responsibilites you may shirk or the people you may hurt by leaving)


Anyway, if you don't have a reason to live, then invent one (several). Something positive, like helping mankind or raising a family, improving yourself, that kind of thing.

Harsh as it may sound, friends can be replaced (not the unique individuals, but you can make new friends), same with significant others, and pets, jobs, possessions, etc.

People, especially young people, think their life is over when something like that goes wrong, they lose their job, their parents chew them out of something, their girl/boyfriend breaks up with them, they flunk out, etc. But there's always another chance.


Also, depression is a treatable condition. Lots of people have it, and medication and counseling go a long way to helping it go away or at least making it possible to live with it.

Years later you'll look back and say "why did I worry so much about that stupid little thing?"

The way I look at it is like a headache or stomach ache or a cold. Sure, it really sucks now, but eventually you'll get over it. So you just hang on, and try to think about something you can do when it's over. And despite life being as short as it is, through an effort of will, even pain can be overcome, to see past it to better things.

Trust me. Don't give up...

PS: If you want to talk to me in private, just send me a PM or email. I'll be happy to listen.

STTCT
06-25-2003, 05:56 AM
Never give up. When you think things are there absolute bleekest that is when the good starts happening. I know that life sucks sometimes, but I have seen dark times and have come out of them smiling. You can too. :) Just have a little faith in yourself and faith in the fact that the good stuff's coming!

Semicolon
06-25-2003, 06:05 AM
I live for LF :) And you should too!!!

Actaully...I live for the moment. Becuse you never know when ur going to part from here. So i Live each and ev ery day in it's fullest..

RoguePhotonic
06-25-2003, 06:17 AM
All you really have in this world is yourself...and F**K everyone else!...

I couldn't give you a reason to live though because I don't have one....

I hate it when people say reasons to live because they are always things they live for and I am not them.....though i'm not sad at all....I can be happy and say I have nothin to live for..:)

BongoBob
06-25-2003, 06:31 AM
I've often asked myself that same exact question. Over the past 3 years I've been on a downward slide. My friends all live far away from me, I almost had a girlfriend, then she unexpectadly left vegas, I lost my chance at a job, I lost a good friend a year ago, I lost my great grandma(who I was very close to), I've lost a dog and a bird, my moms in the process of giving away my cat, and my dad is a complete @$$hole. One of the few things that keeps me goin, is most of mt family(especially my baby brother robbie), music(especially Linkin Park), video games, and the net(I CAN NEVER LEAVE THE LF!). After school ends, I'm pretty messed up. Just keep going. I guess I can't really say anything else.

HertogJan
06-25-2003, 07:09 AM
Originally posted by Kurgan
Anyway, if you don't have a reason to live, then invent one (several). Something positive, like helping mankind or raising a family, improving yourself, that kind of thing.

Exactly, I, for one, have many things to live for. I like beer, computers, movies. When I'm dead, I won't have those. I don't believe in God, reïncarnation, heaven etc. So for me, when I die; it's all over!!

I'd have to miss all those great things life has to offer! Of course there are bad things too, I've had periods where my life sucked, but sooner or later you WILL find the right ppl to talk with, go out with and do lots of other things.

I think you have to ask yourself a question: who am I? Don't try to change in order to make friends, because they will never be true friends. Try to find people who think exactly like you, who have the same interests. If you can't find those people where you live, move to another city :) It sounds simple but it isn't, unfortunately :(

And good things in life don't come to you, you have to find them. It's really hard to make yourself look for good things in life, but believe me; it's well worth the effort!!

Good luck, RpTheHotrod, I hope we can help you get trough this...

PrimoSidone
06-25-2003, 07:18 AM
Well if u choose to die, than u will be a coward... running away form ur probs.

Than u will have lost AGAIN..

Try to take the good things out of live.. en live happy

RpTheHotrod
06-25-2003, 01:56 PM
I think the thing that keeps us going is hope, even if we think we have none left, we do somehow have a little hope left.

P.S.- As for me killing myself, nah, don't worry, I'm not that kind of person. I was just curious what keeps people going, their answers. Any emotional pain I can deal with by converting it to physical pain, since it's only temporary.

|GG|Carl
06-25-2003, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by PrimoSidone
Well if u choose to die, than u will be a coward... running away form ur probs.


Thats true

Sam Fisher
06-25-2003, 02:19 PM
Hope, that's all.







And maybe my computer.

WolfmanNCSU
06-25-2003, 03:01 PM
Just like what was already mentioned....

Giving up is the cowards way out. It will only prove that you are weak, and nothing more.

Harsh sounding, but true.

Thrackan Solo
06-25-2003, 03:12 PM
Whenever I think my life sucks and all, and I dont want to go on, I think of how my life will be 5 years from now, 10 years from now and so on. One thing is for sure hope is all that I have left sometimes.

Eldritch
06-25-2003, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by RpTheHotrod
P.S.- As for me killing myself, nah, don't worry, I'm not that kind of person. I was just curious what keeps people going, their answers. Any emotional pain I can deal with by converting it to physical pain, since it's only temporary.
Yes, that's perfectly healthy. Just keep cutting yourself or whatever, don't see a doctor or anything (as I suggested weeks and weeks ago at your last mental-health related thread). :rolleyes:

Kurgan
06-25-2003, 04:25 PM
You're right, in so many words, that is absolutely correct... it is hope that keeps us alive.

BawBag™
06-25-2003, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by RpTheHotrod
If your friends betray you, if you are never accepted, if luck is plain not on your side, if there's no one to love you, you've lost hope, I ask this... what reason is there to live? What keeps us going?
The fact that no-one should feel this way. These things stem from self pity and depression more than anything. What we should be living for is to provide and to have emotion, feeling. So we can become confident in ourselves and helpful to others around us. Cut the cack man. ou'll get better.

Originally posted by HertogJan
I don't believe in God, reïncarnation, heaven etc. So for me, when I die; it's all over!!
You da man Hertog. This is my view too.

RpTheHotrod
06-25-2003, 05:20 PM
All in all, I think every answer comes to 3 things.


1. Not taking the easy "coward" way out
2. Hope
3. Faith

Just curious if there was anything else that keeps us going.

matt--
06-25-2003, 05:27 PM
The promise of a fresh start, a clean slate, a second chance.
Game over doesn't always mean you're done playing.

Thrackan Solo
06-25-2003, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by RpTheHotrod
All in all, I think every answer comes to 3 things.


1. Not taking the easy "coward" way out
2. Hope
3. Faith

Just curious if there was anything else that keeps us going.

Maybe that someday you wil win the lottery:D

Darth Eggplant
06-25-2003, 07:29 PM
SUICIDE

Existence is the Layman's term
Depression is how Psychologists name it
Glamour is how Hollywood knows it;
Heaven the Religious claim.
Life or Science,
an accurate form of Reality
names and faces we all know;
closest word being Society.
Generals smoke cigars rolled from it,
label it War
One Carpenter built it;
with Twelve of his friends.
Karl Marx taught and identified it,
Class Struggle
Subways take you through it,
and Abraham made a Covenant to it.
Henry made a Black Car from it,
Hittler saw it,
and designed a Flag to go around it.
in the Desert
they have Ninety-nine Beautiful names for it.
Historians point out life's viscous cycles,
Advertisers call it Prime Time.
Democracy votes it in,
Communists order it about.
Peace activists chain themselves to it;
Housewives serve it to their families.
Addicted we Smoke it, Drink it, Snort it,
or Shoot.
Business calls it Recession
and like Cowards, Poets call it Love.

Peculiar that we give so many labels
to the One Word that says it best.

Captain Wilson
06-25-2003, 08:00 PM
Girls if your a lad, lads if your a girl ;) (...unless you like the same sex...)

Or altentivly

You are either sick or you are well
If you are well then there is nothing to worry about
If you are sick then You are going to get better or you are not
If you get better then there is nothing to worry about.
If you dont then you go to heven or to hell
If you are in Heven then there is nothing to worry about
If you are in Hell then You will be to busy talking to friends that you have no time to worry.


So dont worry
:D

C'jais
06-25-2003, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by RpTheHotrod
Any emotional pain I can deal with by converting it to physical pain, since it's only temporary.

Dude.

DON'T. F*CKING. CUT. YOURSELF.


That said, suicide is not the coward's way out. It's so damn easy to take the moral high ground and bully depressed people - but you are not helping them. Not one bit.

Don't try to eat the whole camel at one time if you want to improve your life. If you want self confidence, a good way to get it is to get good at something - preferably something that involves social contact and excercise. That way, once you're in a new, uncomfortable situation, think of how you really rule when you're back in the familiar surroundings and how self confident you are there. Then apply it to the current situation.

As for me, I'm more or less on auto-pilot right now. Even though not much exciting is happening to me right now, if I actually sat down and weighed all the good against the bad, I'd still feel that the chances of turning my life into a good life makes it worth fighting for, even if they appear small right now.

It's going to get better, and remember Kurgan's wise words about teenage depression - in a few years it'll seem like nothing. Right now, get through it just to prove that you are the greatest for surviving. You are the hero of your own life, and if you can just say with certainty in the end that you had a good life despite the hardships, it'll most certainly all be worth it.

And life is too damn silly to take so seriously, so sorry if my advice come across as annoyingly Zen-ish here at the end: "You must move while standing still". They tend to do that.

StormHammer
06-25-2003, 10:35 PM
There are plenty of reasons to live, even when you are at the brink. I know, because I've faced the alternative, and it wasn't a pleasant experience. When you're at the brink, you think about all of the things you haven't yet achieved, the people you haven't kept in contact with but meant to, your family and close friends (or anyone you really care about) and how you would miss them, miss seeing them grow and in turn fulfill their own dreams. You think about life, and the world, and all the things you haven't seen, and how you'll miss the birds singing, and the wind rustling through the trees. And you think about your childhood, and all your own hopes and aspirations...and how you haven't really shared them with people who matter. You think about how you have or haven't made a difference in other people's lives, and what you could have done better if you only had more time to set things on the right path. In the miss of a heartbeat, you realise just how precious and meaningful life can be, no matter where you live, who you are, or your current situation. Because while you have life, you have the capacity to change, and to grow, and to break free from the shackles of the past.

For me, life is the most precious gift, and it would be stupid to squander it. I don't know how much time I have left on this planet...but I hope to shine a small light of hope into other people's lives while I'm here.

Arreat
06-25-2003, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by RpTheHotrod
If your friends betray you, if you are never accepted, if luck is plain not on your side, if there's no one to love you, you've lost hope, I ask this... what reason is there to live? What keeps us going?

Don't worry RP, Je t'aime, Je t'adore.

Rogue15
06-25-2003, 10:58 PM
my good reason for living is cause i set a bunch of goals that i intend to achieve for memeememememememememememememememememememememememem ememememememememememememememememememe!

live for yourself, and yourself alone. or for God, or both you and God. :D and of course, that game you've been waiting for for a million years. :D

acdcfanbill
06-25-2003, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by C'jais


That said, suicide is not the coward's way out. It's so damn easy to take the moral high ground and bully depressed people - but you are not helping them. Not one bit.


ive gotta go with cjais on this point. I never got why ppl say that your a coward for commitnig suicide, or you cant face your problems.

anyway, i can answer in one word.

Music.

right now, nothing else can move me like it does. Sure i watch a lot of movies and play alot of games, tehy are great, but w/o music, i would truely fall into deep depression, i think i would rather loose sight before hearing.

Jared
06-25-2003, 11:51 PM
what kept me going while I was living in group homes, was the fact that if you die.......what if you just cease to exist?? And there is plenty to live for...

well, mostly what got me through was music, specificly, eminem.

topshot
06-26-2003, 12:19 AM
The only good reason I've got to live is I want to make it to my own 'big time.' I want to see myself getting a good education, getting a good job, and because I'd hate to see myself taking my own life or anyone else's. Fight the urge by weight lifting, listening to music, or anything else to take the thought of suicide off your mind.

When it's times I feel that something is blocking my path in life, several things excluding suicide have helped: Poetry, weight lifting, art, music, & communication with anyone willing to help me through my problems, and anything else not mentioned.

Lion275
06-26-2003, 01:12 AM
All you have to do is ignore your problems and move on, Dont dwell on the past

HertogJan
06-26-2003, 06:46 AM
Suicide isn't really an act of cowards, but I must say I don't really pity the ones who commit suicide, but there families, friends etc. If I would kill myself, it would leave lots of ppl (I hope at least) in grave pain, I don't want to do that for them...

STTCT
06-26-2003, 08:08 AM
am i to assume that instead of suicide you resort to some sort of self inflicted injury. ya, that's good. flaunt it all off to us as some sort of trophy. do you do that when people see your injury's or do you cowardly hide them away. Reality is, self inflicted wounds are stupid. they are only helping by letting you vent out your anger in a rather disturbing fashion. I know all about this stuff. All that I can say is STOP before it goes any farther. Things that keep you going are your family and friends. When you have a family in the future are you going to serve as a strong role model to your kids when they ask you about your cuts or whatever they might be (burning, scratching etc). its just not. worth. it. period.

Chastan
07-16-2003, 12:04 AM
Well, I know this is a bit of an old thread... but here's a good reason... you still haven't met me yet! (Or Vestril, but he's a bastard) :D

Vestril
07-16-2003, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by Chastan
Well, I know this is a bit of an old thread... but here's a good reason... you still haven't met me yet! (Or Vestril, but he's a bastard) :D

I'm not a bastard, I just like hurting people...

Azrael
07-16-2003, 08:13 AM
Bowel movements.