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The Truthful Liar
06-29-2003, 11:29 AM
TL here, I'm sorry for holding this project back from you guys for such a long period of time.

This is what I was working on before travelling. I am now in Spain and I plan to return back home earlier than expected - around July 9th or so.

Wedge are you still doing Derelict? It looks like these CTF maps are taking up your time mostly, are you going to chuck in Thunder for the NRG ctf pack instead? What's up? :]

Now, it is finally time, behold.

http://nrgteam.telefragged.com/images_previews/images_ffa_medieval/ingame_04.jpg

http://nrgteam.telefragged.com/images_previews/images_ffa_medieval/ingame_05.jpg

http://nrgteam.telefragged.com/images_previews/images_ffa_medieval/ingame_06.jpg

http://nrgteam.telefragged.com/images_previews/images_ffa_medieval/ingame_07.jpg

http://nrgteam.telefragged.com/images_previews/images_ffa_medieval/ingame_08.jpg

http://nrgteam.telefragged.com/images_previews/images_ffa_medieval/ingame_09.jpg

http://nrgteam.telefragged.com/images_previews/images_ffa_medieval/ingame_10.jpg

http://nrgteam.telefragged.com/images_previews/images_ffa_medieval/ingame_11.jpg

Looks lighter ingame and when I get back I still have to work on the (draw) bridge area.

If the screenshots above seem to dark you can refer to an older bit of work here (http://www.nrgteam.com/images_previews/images_ffa_medieval/shot0046.jpg).

So? :]

[Edit: Image links working.]

master_thomas
06-29-2003, 04:13 PM
Wow, Truthful Liar. That is...just....amazing.

Business_Eskimo
06-29-2003, 07:00 PM
Incredible. I could swear that's not JK2.

Kengo
06-29-2003, 07:29 PM
Love those lamps, and the architecture is wonderfully gothic and imposing, loads of favourite thing in a map, atmosphere :)

lassev
06-30-2003, 05:03 AM
If Raven had hired you, we would get twice as good maps for JA. Breathtaking artwork. I truly wonder how you can do that kind of work so fast.

Altus_Thrawn
06-30-2003, 10:35 AM
You never cease to amaze me....

Sometimes I wonder if I would kill to have your mapping skill...

Zappa_0
06-30-2003, 06:53 PM
WOW!! That really looks great TL. Those pics blew me away. I cant wait to see it when it is released. Keep up the good job!

clu
07-03-2003, 02:07 AM
Very very nice. Beautiful architecture and lighting.

-clu

ZBomber
07-05-2003, 12:41 AM
Yummy. ^_^

Keep up the good work ;)

-=ReApEr=-
07-05-2003, 12:43 PM
Nice work, very nice work indeed. Will you be making maps for JA when it comes out by any chance? :confused:

BongoBob
07-05-2003, 01:00 PM
I hope so, this is cool! I wish I had that type of talent...

Shotokan
07-11-2003, 03:26 AM
Darnit I can't see the pics....

Shotokan
07-11-2003, 03:26 AM
O I see it now! Man... That is soo awesome dude... Seeing things like that makes me want to give up on mapping. I don't have that kind of talent.

DarkLord60
07-13-2003, 02:15 AM
Cant see them :(

Neř
07-13-2003, 02:22 AM
I can't see 'em either, but from the comments it sounds like it looks good.
Any chance of you uploading them somewhere else where we can see them?

rgoer
07-13-2003, 03:09 AM
nrgteam.com (http://www.nrgteam.com) seems to be down at the moment, but I'm sure it will be back up soon... you can check their progress when it gets back up--maybe they'll have posted something ;^)

Lil Killa
07-13-2003, 03:22 AM
Originally posted by rgoer
nrgteam.com (http://www.nrgteam.com) seems to be down at the moment, but I'm sure it will be back up soon... you can check their progress when it gets back up--maybe they'll have posted something ;^)


That site has been down for almost a week.......

The Truthful Liar
07-13-2003, 02:02 PM
Technically the NRG site itself isn't down, only the domain is.

I'll get around to responding to some of your comments/questions shortly and perhaps add a few extra images if I have the time.

Patrick_H
07-14-2003, 10:29 AM
Hey this looks very pretty. Nice work! How is the glow around the lanterns achieved then?

Omikron
07-14-2003, 11:12 AM
That looks heaps good, even if it is a little dark.
For the stuff around the lanters he could have had orange fox around it, that would give that kind of effect (i think).

The Truthful Liar
07-14-2003, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by Omikron
For the stuff around the lanters he could have had orange fox around it, that would give that kind of effect (i think).

Just a 2d texture.

The Truthful Liar
07-14-2003, 06:22 PM
I managed to get this far during the weekend. I feel that the map is starting to take better shape now, enjoy.

http://nrgteam.telefragged.com/images_previews/images_ffa_medieval/ingame_12.jpg

http://nrgteam.telefragged.com/images_previews/images_ffa_medieval/ingame_13.jpg

http://nrgteam.telefragged.com/images_previews/images_ffa_medieval/ingame_14.jpg

http://nrgteam.telefragged.com/images_previews/images_ffa_medieval/ingame_15.jpg

http://nrgteam.telefragged.com/images_previews/images_ffa_medieval/ingame_16.jpg

wedge2211
07-15-2003, 12:40 AM
Excellent work as always. But...

1- Is the drawbridge a bottleneck?

2- Is the final map going to be floating in space?

Omikron
07-15-2003, 03:11 AM
I reckon that looks like something from Unreal Tourny, which is a good thing, keep up the good work.

Patrick_H
07-15-2003, 04:53 AM
A 2d texture? Going to make me dig aren't you?

The Truthful Liar
07-15-2003, 06:14 AM
Ok, I'll let you guys in on a secret - this area I'm currently developing is merely the guardpost, the outsides of the main map if you will - you won't be crossing the bridge, so it's not really considered a bottleneck.

Wedge: It might be alittle floating-ish, we'll see, I'd rather hope not. Stupid engine.

Omikron: Familiar name... I hope it looks something of my style rather than from a game, it's my aim to remain original. :]

Patrick: The lanterns are 3d models which you can easily tell, the flares or glows which come with them are as easily placed as would any other sprite texture (for flames, electric bolts, some people use FX's for them nowadays but in larger maps it can be quite fps consuming, for flares it's just downright silly to try use a FX).

Edit: It seems that my name has a red glow and I never ordered that from the shop, also my points are gone. Bloody system. :-(

Omikron
07-15-2003, 09:51 AM
UT is abit like Q3A.
Anyway, this is sounds kool, keep up the good work.

Also, everyones credits have gone it seems

rgoer
07-15-2003, 01:10 PM
There's a new entity key for lights when you compile with newer versions of q3map2. I think this comes with versions 2.5.3 and newer: flare_radius. Just give it a key/value pair of flare_radius/1 and do a q3map2 compile... here (http://www.shadowspawn.net/temp/tc_lights.jpg) is a shot of how it looks. Ignore the visible portal barriers, they aren't a part of this effect.

Eldritch
07-15-2003, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Omikron
Also, everyones credits have gone it seems
That's because the store has been removed.

The Truthful Liar
07-22-2003, 12:56 AM
Please ignore the overly bright lava lighting. Will be fixed on next compile.

http://nrgteam.telefragged.com/images_previews/images_ffa_medieval/ingame_17.jpg

http://nrgteam.telefragged.com/images_previews/images_ffa_medieval/ingame_18.jpg

http://nrgteam.telefragged.com/images_previews/images_ffa_medieval/ingame_19.jpg

http://nrgteam.telefragged.com/images_previews/images_ffa_medieval/ingame_20.jpg

The towers are now both fully scalable, you can climb to the top as you would expect realistically. :]

wedge2211
07-22-2003, 02:15 AM
*Mordor theme starts playing in Wedge's head*

Lil Killa
07-22-2003, 04:53 AM
Originally posted by rgoer
There's a new entity key for lights when you compile with newer versions of q3map2. I think this comes with versions 2.5.3 and newer: flare_radius. Just give it a key/value pair of flare_radius/1 and do a q3map2 compile... here (http://www.shadowspawn.net/temp/tc_lights.jpg) is a shot of how it looks. Ignore the visible portal barriers, they aren't a part of this effect.


From what I see in the pic it appears that it make a flair for u out of the light... is that true?


Also back on topic:D The map is looking awsome truthful, if i could be half the mapper u and wedge and eldritch and..........

Oh well keep up the good work it's looking nice:D

Also ar u going to fix those two beam type stuctures going through the wood in the last pic or was that purposeful?

Shotokan
07-27-2003, 10:39 PM
When ever I look at that I think of Lord of the Rings... Or even Vampire Hunter D...

master_thomas
07-28-2003, 01:34 AM
Hmm, reminds me of Barad-dur.

You never cease to amaze me, Truthful Liar. Can't wait to play that map.

The Truthful Liar
07-28-2003, 02:40 AM
Originally posted by Lil Killa
From what I see in the pic it appears that it make a flair for u out of the light... is that true?


Also back on topic:D The map is looking awsome truthful, if i could be half the mapper u and wedge and eldritch and..........

Oh well keep up the good work it's looking nice:D

Also ar u going to fix those two beam type stuctures going through the wood in the last pic or was that purposeful?

The flare is a texture. Yes I plan to fix the beams, it's something which I have not found time to edit yet.

Originally posted by master_thomas
Hmm, reminds me of Barad-dur.

You never cease to amaze me, Truthful Liar. Can't wait to play that map.

You'll have to wait till our map pack is released. Approximate scheduled date is now September 19th-26th.

Originally posted by Dark Mercenary.
The map looks alot like odins tower were you get oden and master thornberry in ff8 ya
know? lol

Originally posted by Shotokan
When ever I look at that I think of Lord of the Rings... Or even Vampire Hunter D...

Originally posted by wedge2211
*Mordor theme starts playing in Wedge's head*

I'm glad this map reminds you all of something, although it wasn't my intention to. This map is merely created in my mind and roughly sketched onto paper.

I can't promise any of you screenshots in the near future, I'm now working on a Q3 map and I am flying to England on the 11th of August. Although, having said that, I will try to get one more update up before I leave. ; )

Matt-Liell
07-28-2003, 12:19 PM
*Matt tries to speak, all that comes out is a gurgling noise*

*ugglfleflel*

*waits 5 minutes while looking at pics*

SWEET MOTHER OF VENUS! Holy crap that is awesome, that map is simple pefection in the name of jk2, forget raven I'm putting you incharge of mapping!

Two suggestions to improve this map:

1. Yes I agree with wedge2211 either the Mordor theme or the Uruk-Hai theme would be perfect for this map.

2. I'm not sure whats being done in this area but this is just incase nothing is being done. Underneath the castle in those big pillars leading into the lava, it'd be cool to have stairs going down into some nice duel size dungeon rooms. Then if you keep going down, right at the bottom, the pillars open up letting lava come in except for an octaganal platform where you can duel in the middle of the lava, thatd be fun!

The Truthful Liar
07-30-2003, 03:47 AM
Originally posted by Matt-Liell
Two suggestions to improve this map:

1. Yes I agree with wedge2211 either the Mordor theme or the Uruk-Hai theme would be perfect for this map.

Music? No. For the map pack we use certain music which is shared in other maps to reduce filesize. We probably will release two versions though, one without music and one pack for music. So if that's the case, then maybe. I'll definetly look into those songs as I've not heard them before, except for the mordor theme - I think I know what you're talking about.

2. I'm not sure whats being done in this area but this is just incase nothing is being done. Underneath the castle in those big pillars leading into the lava, it'd be cool to have stairs going down into some nice duel size dungeon rooms. Then if you keep going down, right at the bottom, the pillars open up letting lava come in except for an octaganal platform where you can duel in the middle of the lava, thatd be fun!

I have considered adding sub-levels to this tower area. Honestly, I don't know if it's feasable on the FPS, although with JA coming around the corner and a planned release for it perhaps I'll be able to create them. We'll see.

Chewie Bakker
08-04-2003, 08:58 AM
That is one *%#&ing unreal looking map!

I don't know what else to say about it, The Truthful Liar, other than it's an amazing-looking level.

:gben: The Force will be with you, always.

Emon
08-04-2003, 03:48 PM
Looks great.