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[RAA]-=Chi3f=-
07-02-2003, 11:16 PM
...the best desktop computer? In this month's issue of Maximum PC they review three top of the line PCs.

They are:
The DELL XPS
VOODOO pc f-class: F-510 stealth
ALIENWARE: Area 51
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ALIENWARE: Area 51 http://www.alienware.com/Images/Prod_Info_Img/cases/configurator_cases/v3_prd_configurator_saucer_silver.jpg

Pros:[list]
Best Price tag: $2999 fully loaded (Geforce 5900 Ultra, dual 120GB HD, flat-panel 19inch, Logitech z-680 speakers, intel PIIIIc 3ghz, 1GB DDR400 ram, and more). The dell is $4000+ and the Voodoo is $7000!
Most original design. You may love it or hate it, but it is very creative and the easiest to mod. The Alien face lights up.
Lot's of extra cases available including Space Black, Conspiracy Blue, Cyborg Green, Saucer Silver, Plasma Purple, Martian Red, and Nova Yellow



Cons:
You may scare the neighbors with this machine. It's X-files in the living room!
Comes with WinXP home, not Pro.
1 less optic drive than the other two.




VOODOO: pc f-class: F-510 stealth http://www.voodoo.ca/slices/homepage_r2_c1.jpg

Pros:
Custom welded GeForceFX 5900 Ultra that allows you overlock it much higher than normal cards.
Exclusive: A specially designed water-cooling system
Creative Labs Megaworks 6.1 Dolby surround speakers + Soundblaster Live Audigy II Platinum = Awesome sound!



Cons:
The price tag! A whopping $6918!
Proprietary: A specially designed water-cooling system. If it breaks, you can't fix it (only they can).
Did I mention the price?




DELL: XPS http://di.dell.com/images/us/segments/dhs/prodviews/XPS_eseries_angle.jpg

Pros:
The quietest of the three.
Cool looking, more modern than the others. A gaming PC for the family.
Best warranty



Cons:
Who wants to see the huge DELL logo on the side? not me.
Proprietary: Can only use DELL parts. Bad for modders
Best system has an ATI 9800 Pro 128mb DDR
Cooling problems lead to strange performance




Overall: All pcs we're tested with the same equipment except that the Dell had the ATI 9800 while the others had the brand new (and fastest) GeForce 5900FX Ultra. For the money, I'd buy the Alienwares. It's a little more exotic than the others, but a much better value.



Who do you think has the best and baddest pc right now?

KBell
07-02-2003, 11:25 PM
theres no question about it, Alienware.


Oh and PC Gamer gave that same kind of Comparison between the three computers, like, 3 months ago. I think PC gamer is more up to date than Maximum PC. Just my opinion

Oh, how is this a quiz? :confused:

[RAA]-=Chi3f=-
07-02-2003, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by KBell
theres no question about it, Alienware.


Oh and PC Gamer gave that same kind of Comparison between the three computers, like, 3 months ago. I think PC gamer is more up to date than Maximum PC. Just my opinion

Oh, how is this a quiz? :confused:


Maximum PC July 2003. :D

Don't get me wrong, I love PC gamer (for game and tech info), but Maximum PC specialize in hardware reviews. These cases have been out for a little while, but the versions they got were brand new designs. The GeForce 5900 Ultra has just been released. This was only a small bit of info from the 5 page article.


Quiz: Basically some people are die hard brand-junkies (DELL dudes). I want to know if it's worth the money because of the brand?

KBell
07-02-2003, 11:37 PM
Yeah, i guess your right about the Technical side of the Magazine, i just like PC Gamer cause they Mix their magazine with different reviews of machines and games.

KBell
07-02-2003, 11:41 PM
sometimes its worth the money for a specific Brand, especially Alienware, who offers great warrantys and assemble their PC with great precision. But sometimes, it doesn't matter. ABS computers are cheap, not a well known company, but put together some pretty good computers ( according to PC gamer, 93 or so percent good) So, people just have to be pickey. But i still wouldnt be caught dead with a Dell :D

Sam Fisher
07-02-2003, 11:56 PM
ALIENWARE!

Actually, you don't kneed most of the stuff that come with those computers, just go buy all of the parts seperately(sp?). Its cheaper. A lot.

edlib
07-02-2003, 11:59 PM
Dell support has pulled by bacon out of the fire more than once. But if you consider yourself an advanced user there's no reason to buy a Dell.
I wouldn't get an XPS anyway. I'd get one of the cheaper, plainer-looking models and spend the extra money on maxing it out with top-o'-th'-line components.
My next system will be DIY anyway...

[RAA]-=Chi3f=-
07-03-2003, 12:05 AM
I agree.


I built mine from scratch. Nothing is more enjoyable than sawing, soldering, and defiling one's PC.

If I was forced to but one of the one's listed it would be the Alienwares.

El Sitherino
07-03-2003, 12:27 AM
FALCON NORTHWEST FOREVER!!!!!!!!
you missed that one.:fist:

[RAA]-=Chi3f=-
07-03-2003, 12:30 AM
I'm going by what was in the review. :p

I like Falcon too, but they don't paint the front of the case and they don't mod it like they should. For the same price you can get the same paint job at a autobody shop. Imagine the creativity of an Alienware with the paint job from Falcon.




cool :cool:

Bob Gnarly
07-03-2003, 12:58 AM
My Yoda will beat your Dell, vooDoo, and Alienware any day.

KBell
07-03-2003, 01:05 AM
Me and My dad had a sort of "nerdy" father son project. We went to the local computer show and bought all out parts and are building our own custom PC. We're are still not done with it, but were gonna call it "P.C" since my name is Pete and his is Chuck :p pretty cool :D

Semicolon
07-03-2003, 02:43 AM
I voted for the XPS, since that's what I have :D

[RAA]-=Chi3f=-
07-03-2003, 04:35 AM
Originally posted by Semicolon
I voted for the XPS, since that's what I have :D



Is it fully loaded? I like the new Dell and I hope they make more like this one. :D

HertogJan
07-03-2003, 07:48 AM
I build my own PCs... So... YODA!!! :D :D :D

Reclaimer
07-03-2003, 10:51 AM
Why have a computer when you have the force?Yoda is my computer.

-=ReApEr=-
07-03-2003, 11:07 AM
Deffintley Alienware that is my personal dream computer. :p

Semicolon
07-03-2003, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by -=Chi3f=-
Is it fully loaded? I like the new Dell and I hope they make more like this one. :D

Yep loaded loaded :) Only cost about $1400 too :)

Anywho...Ur sig rocks!!!

KBell
07-03-2003, 12:51 PM
Here, i found a good example of a no-name brand that does a fine job.

The Gamer's Edge DX-W

Pros- Low price ( $2,895) comparible to Dell and Alienware;fast, stylish and functunal case

Cons- In the past year, Velocity Micro ( the company that makes these) went from a three-year warrenty to a one year


Bottom Line- It lacks the famous name, but Velocity Micro knows how to give Gamers an Edge

Score: 90%

This comes straight from the August 2003 issue in the hardware section

leXX
07-03-2003, 12:58 PM
It's gotta be Alienware.

I want that Area 51 case badly.

KBell
07-03-2003, 01:03 PM
Yeah, maybe ill just but the case and put my own parts inside :p

Sam Fisher
07-03-2003, 02:12 PM
I built my own comp, and it cost only about $818.00. Its the best.

KBell
07-03-2003, 02:16 PM
What componets were inside to make it "the best" ?

Sam Fisher
07-03-2003, 02:26 PM
ALL-IN-WONDER ATI-RADEON 9700 PRO

ASUS A7N8X MOTHERBOARD

AMD-ATHLON 2200+ PROCESSER

Xtreme FLAT 19" MONITOR

SX635 MINI-TOWER

That's all I can rember right now.

KBell
07-03-2003, 02:31 PM
i dont much care for Flat-screens. They blur when you play high-speed FPS games, unless you buy a very expensive one.

Sam Fisher
07-03-2003, 02:34 PM
No, mine doesn't blur, in fact, it looks really good. And it only cost about $200.

KBell
07-03-2003, 02:38 PM
What brand is it? Because I was reading my 2 month old PC Gamer and in one of the reviews it said that the most reliable, blur-free Flat Panel Moniter is the Samsung 191T 19" for $665

[RAA]-=Chi3f=-
07-03-2003, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by Semicolon
Yep loaded loaded :) Only cost about $1400 too :)

Anywho...Ur sig rocks!!!

Thanks. That's a good price on a good machine. I would recommend the XPS and the Alienwares to somebody that wants a cool PC at a cool price. :cool:



While we're on the subject of modding, here's my case specs.

First PC,

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Viewsonic 19" (dang heavy)
ATI 9800 pro 128
PIII 2.4 ghz
512 DDR
IBM 60 GB HD x2
Soundblaster live Audigy II
3:1 Altec Lansing speakers ($30). They rock!
Memorex keyboard ($7 steal) and Trackball Optical (ball mouse)
Aaronix case w/ 600w PSU. $25 case
Crystalfonts iced-blue 1 x 4 LCD (I bored out my floppy bezel)
Modified 4 controller rheobus
4 case fans (UV), 2 are modified leds (very bright)
Custom window job. A little bit of Lexxon goes a long ways
Polished case grills
2 Cold cathodes, 1 UV blacklight
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The entire system started at $900. Along the way I've upgraded parts like the graphics card and mobo. Everything looks awesome, especially the paintjob. I used some jet ski paint from a friend (who works at a paint shop) on a gravity feed gun.

I'm going to paint everything a special black finish (with some effects) pretty soon. There's a vinyl finish that works great on keyboards and mice (a lot of wear and tear).



I had this case posted a while ago. When I find some pics I'll post them again. :D

Agen
07-03-2003, 04:59 PM
You can build your own Pc with the same specs as Alienware for cheaper : Answer - Build your own :D