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Sithmaster_821
07-07-2003, 09:50 PM
Archangel (Ensemble's PR guy) said this about our game:

Star Wars Battlegrounds and Expansion was made by Lucas Arts with the ES AOK Engine. Nice game, still play it off and on when I want that AOK/SW feeling. I recently saw it in a Gaming Store in a Bundle for a good price.


I know to most of you this seems spammy, but I just thought it was cool to hear ES's opinion on the game. Especially since most other people on Ao_ forums have bad things to say about it (the funniest is when people at AoK forums say that it has bad graphics). Anyway, post here if you want or let this sink or delete this or flame me or whatever.

pbguy1211
07-07-2003, 11:19 PM
i think there's a lot more strategy involved in SWGB:CC than in AoK. Power cores, more units. And the unique units are better too.
Anyone can put up a barracks building near an opponents base. but in SWGB you need power... but you cant afford 2 troop centers early and you cant afford 2 power cores early. and you need the power core to get the food and carbon upgrades.
plus you add air into the mix and jedi... much more variety...

HOWEVER... for some reason there are like at least 5 times as many people who play AoK on the zone than SWGB:CC... go figure.

Compa_Mighty
07-08-2003, 01:46 AM
The thing is that SWGB came a little late... that was its only problem.

pbguy1211
07-08-2003, 03:12 AM
true, but AoK has some MASSIVE staying power while SWGB/CC doesnt seem to have as much. SWGB/CC on the zone is all crap scenarios now.

lukeiamyourdad
07-08-2003, 03:48 PM
AoK's real power is AoE popularity. Now Force Commander suck so much that people did not believe into any SW RTS. So I think if they heavily modified the engine and Force Commander did not exist, SWGB would have more popularity.

Remember that one of the reasons people did not lile the game it's because they felt it was an AoK rip-off(true to some extent).

AU_Skythe
07-12-2003, 11:28 AM
interesting.. i feel luke is right... also because its star wars they might look at it as childish or might look funny in front of their friends/girlfriend/wife playing a star wars game or at least feel funny..

pbguy1211
07-12-2003, 12:19 PM
they may think so... but i think the game was made better when they added the star wars theme to it. they added a lot more units and features. you cant deny that.

Sithmaster_821
07-13-2003, 01:11 AM
Star Wars or no Star Wars, this game is for me the 2nd x-pack we never had for AoK. Its got more features, more refined, better balance, and est of all, more fun.

pbguy1211
07-13-2003, 03:03 AM
i know! there's SO much more strategy involved!
power cores, air... jedi are more powerful than monks... more units... i guess the AoK community doesnt care that much for SW. and the SW community doesnt like the game enough to stick around. i like AoK... but playing that after playing this seems like going back in time in terms or strategies.

lukeiamyourdad
07-13-2003, 03:59 PM
I don't think guys who plays SW games are considered childish. Most of the time, the people who are considered childish are the ones who play games like whatever Disney can come up with.

SW fans are considered geeks...such a sad thing...

AU_Skythe
07-13-2003, 04:47 PM
yes it is quite sad... this game is wayyy funner than aok ..but a kid might be obliged to pass this game on just because its star wars ... those stereotypes are so not true lol..

i remember when someone posted on some aom or aok forums at mfo, and half the people there like like star wars.... pfft
little did they know half the mods there used to play this game all the time and thought it was great lol

Sithmaster_821
07-14-2003, 04:06 PM
^The mods at MFO AoK/AoM play this game still? I mean I figured that a bunch of people bought the game, glanced at it, decided it was too much like AoK, and tossed it out, but I didnt know that many people (good people) stayed with the game after like 6 months.

Darth Windu
07-15-2003, 11:16 AM
This is sorta off topic, but i just thought it was funny what luke said about Disney products being childish.

You do realise that Disney own 'Star Wars', 'Indiana Jones', 'Aliens' etc right?

pbguy1211
07-15-2003, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by Darth Windu
You do realise that Disney own 'Star Wars', 'Indiana Jones', 'Aliens' etc right?
Um... could you elaborate?

lukeiamyourdad
07-15-2003, 03:51 PM
Yes I know.

I was talking about stuff like ''Finding Nemo'', ''Bambi", etc.

Stuff that aren't bought by disney...

Those are Disney true products.

Wait...

Star Wars, the movies, aren't owned by Disney...we don't see them in the generic or anything...Hey what the hell?!

I remember George Lucas saying that he will always keep all the copyrights for him. Fox tried to buy them and keep the profit of the products but Lucas cut his salary in half so he only can keep those rights...so Windu...wtf?

pbguy1211
07-15-2003, 05:31 PM
I dont get it either... are you referring to the titles? I know GL owns everything SW related. I mean, he made his own production companies so he didnt have to pay anyone else. He takes in all the profits from them... or at least that's what impression i was under.

Compa_Mighty
07-16-2003, 01:53 AM
He got a little confused, he was thinking about the park attractions, of course at MGM we have th Indiana Jones Show and Star Tours, and at the Magic Kingdom there's a game related to aliens (although not the same ones of the movie). Windu, did you mean that?

@ lukeiamyourdad: Actually he has already sold them, but FOX is very respectful of his work, so there's really not much problem for Lucas to work with anything SW-related.

Returning to the topic, well, AoK is historic which adds something extra to the game, I mean there are a lot of people who find the game "more mature" because your playing with people and armies that were once real.

Other people like a couple of friends simply didn't get the game (I don't know why) so they returned to AoK.

Personally I like both game the same, since I like history and Star Wars a lot.

But like I said before, the rip-off arguement is actually somewhat valid with this game, and this fact will sadly always be held against it.

pbguy1211
07-16-2003, 03:12 AM
I like both. But I like SW a little more because of the simple fact that you cant put a troop center next to your enemies base so early and it makes your "wood" a little more valuable by needing a power core for buildings... then again that's always been my arguement. But I did play The Conquerors today!:p

Darth Windu
07-16-2003, 09:41 AM
The Disney corporation owns the companies that produce movies like Indiana Jones, Aliens, Star Wars etc. Trust me.

PS: i know the ride you're talking about, and no, thats not what i mean.

lukeiamyourdad
07-16-2003, 03:35 PM
Disney owns Fox?! What the ****?!

Compa_Mighty
07-16-2003, 04:59 PM
No, Disney definitely does not own FOX. Windu, could you explain what you mean, please?

pbguy1211
07-16-2003, 06:05 PM
lol.... windu you're nuts... i work for fox... newscorp owns fox. not disney!

lukeiamyourdad
07-17-2003, 07:22 PM
What's next? Disney controls everthing in the world? All part of an evil conspiracy led by a clone of Walt Disney?

pbguy1211
07-18-2003, 03:52 AM
wait a tick... windu's from austrailia? isn't newscorp pretty big down there? as in... it's world headquarters?!?!

Sithmaster_821
07-21-2003, 01:29 AM
Maybe *shrugs*

Yeah, Compa, a bunch of people I played with from AoK just dismissed this as a big mod. Suprisingly, the only person that I hooked was the one who knew the least about SW (simwiz). Despite his shortcomings, he saw this game like how I saw it, AoK, but better balanced and more fun. Plus the SW stuff is cool.