PDA

View Full Version : Monkey Island the movie aka Pirates of the caribbean


dabomb765
07-10-2003, 05:16 AM
If you guy want to watch monkey island on the big screen watch Pirates of the Caribbean. Same story same charcters same locations only diffrent name.
If you saw the movie then read on as I discuss some of the similarities(spoilers)

Captian Jack Sparrow=Otis. He always ends up getting locked up and chained and is a victim to society.

Orlando Blooms charcter=Guybrush. has to save a girl. looks like mi2 guybrush and is kind of a wimp.

Elizabeth Swan=Elaine. Strong girl. Gets kidnapped by undead pirates. has someone going after her. she een looks like her. She is of great authority.

Captain Barbossa=Lechuck. Kidnaps girl. is undead. has a an undead army of pirates. has a beard. sounds and looks like him also.

The skinny tall pirate with a glass eye and the short one= the tall and short fat guys from mi3. They were very similar.

Girl that slaps jack 2 times on cheek=Carla the swordmaster. Tanned skin. tough. good with sword.

The Island that captain jack was marooned to twice= Monkey Island. An island in the middle of nowhere where your gooal is to try to escape. people always left there to die.

The scene in the bar with the fights. The scummbar. It was very similar to the scummbar including the color and atmosphere.

Other similar things.
Cursed objects.
Trying to find a crew
insult sword fighting
wooing the dog to give the key to the prisoners
cannon ball scene at the begginging
the ships with the undead pirates looked like the part in mi3 were you had to shoot them down.
Aztec Treasure=Big whoop?

Feel free to add on more suggestions.

scabb
07-10-2003, 06:47 AM
Well, I'm sure you know that like the movie, Monkey Island was "inspired" by the Pirates of the Caribbean ride.

Are there any direct references? Such as a little bit of the LeChuck theme here, a rubber chicken with a pully in the middle lying around over there? That would be nice.

Too bad this movie doesn't hit a European Cinema until the 8th of August.

Joshi
07-10-2003, 07:45 AM
You wanna Monkey Island Movie?! Oh, there's really no point (www.mimovie.tk) anymore.
BUt yeah, Monkey island was inspired by the Pirates of the caribbean ride at disneyworld. Plus the name is complete property of Disney so they can realy do whatever the hell they want with it including a film which bears some similarities to our belove game . Bu that whole otis thing, I'm yet to see otis fight like Sparrow and plus, I see no curse in monkey island where people turn into skeletons in the moonlight, they're either undead or alive in MI. Also, the movie's about a load of stolen treasure which has to be returned in order to break the curse, must have missed that in MI.

Btiller
07-31-2003, 05:27 PM
yes, the MI team wanted to spoof and pay homage to the POTC ride at Dinkyisland..er..I mean..uh.. Disneyland. But I am also convinced that the POTC:COTBP movie was very much influenced by the MI games. What struck me when I first saw it was the choice of color for the night scenes during the attack. It was teal blue just like the scene in CMI with the attack on the fort. Also the shot of the town with the ship in the forground looked just like a similar shot in CMI. But the CMI shots were influenced by POTC ride. And the first post made many good comparison that I hadn't thought of. Orlando Blume is Guybrush like, and the woman in the movie is very much like Eliane in there personality and smarts. And there are no ghost pirates in the POTC ride, just dead skeltons. A Ghost pirate captain must have coem from MI. And the fat and skinny pirate was absultuly taken from CMI. That was one of the few jokes I suggested for CMI that got in, the whole 'Big bones' joke. But it is all good. I am very plesed they were inpsired by the MI games, and we were very much inspired by the POTC ride. It is all good!
-Bill Tiller

kilohoku
08-01-2003, 01:48 AM
Umm... The fact that Elizabeth Swan, (Elaine) is the govorner's daughter. And check out the movie posters (http://www.classbrain.com/artmovies/publish/article_120.shtml).

And as far as I have been told, Captian Jack (Otis) throws a rubber chicken at someone.

Joshi
08-01-2003, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by kilohoku
Umm... The fact that Elizabeth Swan, (Elaine) is the govorner's daughter. And check out the movie posters (http://www.classbrain.com/artmovies/publish/article_120.shtml).

And as far as I have been told, Captian Jack (Otis) throws a rubber chicken at someone.

And judging by that, you'd say that this is what an MI movie would be about? And when exactly does Otis swordfight, own a ship, have a title or second name or even touch a rubber chicken?

You're just piecing together bits and pieces of the movie just because your spiteful that this is the closest we will ever come to a real Monkey Island Movie (http://www.mimovie.tk) despite the fact that this is meant to be the best summer blockbuster this year.

hellomoto
08-01-2003, 02:55 PM
If they were going to make an MI movie, they would have done it years ago, when it was in its hay day.

Now, it might have some similarities, and might have been partly inspired but the tall skinny, short fat undead joke, hundreds of films have that, ok, so they might not be undead, but...

There may be similarities e.t.c, but it couldnt be a total MI film, cause it'd only be people like us who'd go to see it and we'd get laughed at going into the cinema. Seriously, no-one would go to see it and they wouldn't make any money from it. Which is the whole point of Disney.

I'd love for them to make an MI film, but its just not going to happen.

Alien426
08-01-2003, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by hellomoto
If they were going to make an MI movie, they would have done it years ago, when it was in its hay day.
Who are "they"? If you mean Lucasfilm, they made the Young Indy series back then.
Originally posted by hellomoto
There may be similarities e.t.c, but it couldnt be a total MI film, cause it'd only be people like us who'd go to see it and we'd get laughed at going into the cinema. Seriously, no-one would go to see it and they wouldn't make any money from it.
How can you make such a statement? Don't you think a story full of pirates and adventure with lots of humor would appeal to a lot of movie-goers? It worked in a quite similar way with this archeologist and his encounters.
We would be laughed at for going to the cinema??? Why, oh pray tell me why!

Joshi
08-02-2003, 12:18 PM
Yeah, no really, the movie canot be supported on a fan base alone and really, who would want to see a movie called Monkey island with a female governor, a guy named Guybrush Threepwood some undead guys and a curse. Oh yeah, all those who went to see the biggest blockbuster this year, Pirates of the Caribbean. And they would simpley thing that a monkey island moie was a complete takeoff from that film so they wouldn't see it. The movie would go bust and it would be a total waste. Any hope of a Monkey island movie was lost with POTC.

ThunderPeel2001
08-02-2003, 06:20 PM
Having seen this movie, the only thing I can say that's similar to MI is the fact that a) It's set in a pirate world and b) The bad guy had a skeletal crew.

Both of which are from the original ride.

It's an excellent movie BTW!

~ John

elTee
08-02-2003, 06:58 PM
Now, I can only see this movie on thursday at the earliest (legally) so let it be known I haven't seen it at the time of writing.

Ok, first thing first - Monkey Island, as it is, would be a crap movie. Seriously, think about it. Guybrush spends 90% of his time alone, solving puzzles. The whole genre of point and click is a genre meant to be enjoyed alone. I know for a fact I would hate to sit down and watch someone play Monkey Island for 2 hours. If they were to make an MI movie, then it would have to vastly change from the current format, because the fact remains that games and movies are two incredibly different things. Monkey Island the movie would need another character to help Guybrush in his quest, because no-one (NO-ONE) would green-light a movie that involved one person walking around by himself.

Also, that whole scene with Jack Sparrow and the dog with the keys that was in MI2? Well, MI2 lifted that scene straight from pirates of the caribbean the RIDE in the first place.

And as for the idea of the curse? Well, last time I checked Monkey Island wasn't the first story to utilise curses - ghost ships have been told of in stories long before Monkey Island came along. I mean, just watch the Twilight Zone! That had ghost ships in it and it was made in the 50's.

Insult sword fighting? Well, yeah, Monkey Island used it in a new and clever way in the first game, it was truly innovative. But just watch any swashbuckler and you'll see that the insults come with the territory. From Errol Flynn doing it 60 years ago, to Highlander in the 80's. I mean, even Hook has it: "Looky Looky I got Hooky!" "I remember you being a lot bigger"-"to a ten year old I'm huge" etc. It just makes the scene better.

Trying to find a crew? Well, amazing. Ever heard of Treasure Island?

The island they leave Jack on sounds interesting. However, Monkey Island, in the original, was regarded as a myth - no-one had ever been there, and no-one could prove it existed. You certainly didn't get "left there to die."

I don't think Disney would let the film be influenced by Monkey Island in any way, to be honest. Why? Well, its a potentially interesting legal situation. I mean, LucasArts make a game INSPIRED by a Disney ride, then Disney make a film based off their OWN ride, and then the film is INFLUENCED by the LucasArts game. So, who has the copyright? Disney don't want some kind of court case when the film is making as much money as it is.

And you say Keira Knightley's character is like Elaine? Well, if you mean strong willed then you're obviously making a link that isn't there. I mean, I always thought Marian in Raiders of the Lost Ark was like Elaine, and she came 5 years earlier. I mean, in MI2 Guybrush goes to find his EX-LOVER Elaine, who thinks he wants her back. In fact, he wants her GRANDFATHERS map piece. In Raiders, Indy finds his EX-LOVER Marian, who thinks he wants her back. Instead, he wants her FATHERS medallian. Oh my!! See, co-incidences happen. Woop-de-doo.

Read this if you want to see the links between the ride and the games. (http://lucastones.mixnmojo.com/lucasarticle.html)

ThunderPeel2001
08-02-2003, 07:43 PM
Well said, LucasTones. You'll see just how right you are when you actually watch Pirates. It's BETTER than any MI movie could be too (half of the humor of MI1+2 is getting Guybrush to say REALLY silly things -- how could that work in a film? The audience would just think he was an idiot.).

~ John

Joshi
08-02-2003, 08:43 PM
Finally, someone who agree with me on this. Thank you Lucas Tones. And now I'm going to add to this to make it hit home even more.

Originally posted by LucasTones
Now, I can only see this movie on thursday at the earliest (legally) so let it be known I haven't seen it at the time of writing.

Annoyingly, me too, but this is set to be the best summer blockbuster this year (stated by empire who are normally pretty cynical about these things) so I have high hopes about this movie.

Originally posted by LucasTones
Ok, first thing first - Monkey Island, as it is, would be a crap movie. Seriously, think about it. Guybrush spends 90% of his time alone, solving puzzles. The whole genre of point and click is a genre meant to be enjoyed alone. I know for a fact I would hate to sit down and watch someone play Monkey Island for 2 hours. If they were to make an MI movie, then it would have to vastly change from the current format, because the fact remains that games and movies are two incredibly different things. Monkey Island the movie would need another character to help Guybrush in his quest, because no-one (NO-ONE) would green-light a movie that involved one person walking around by himself.


Too true, proof? Tomb Raider and Resident Evil are tied as the two worst movies I've ever seen in my life. Super Mario Bros I simply won't go into.

Originally posted by LucasTones
Also, that whole scene with Jack Sparrow and the dog with the keys that was in MI2? Well, MI2 lifted that scene straight from pirates of the caribbean the RIDE in the first place.

As was a hell of a lot, like maybe the whole concept of Monkey Island.

Originally posted by LucasTones
And as for the idea of the curse? Well, last time I checked Monkey Island wasn't the first story to utilise curses - ghost ships have been told of in stories long before Monkey Island came along. I mean, just watch the Twilight Zone! That had ghost ships in it and it was made in the 50's.

And plus the curse is completely different in the movie, you're only picking it up because it's a curse in a pirate movie. News flash, it's not illegal, and actually makes for good story telling, which is why both POTC and COMI used it. If somethings good, you might as well use it, even if someone vaguely used it before.

Originally posted by LucasTones
Insult sword fighting? Well, yeah, Monkey Island used it in a new and clever way in the first game, it was truly innovative. But just watch any swashbuckler and you'll see that the insults come with the territory. From Errol Flynn doing it 60 years ago, to Highlander in the 80's. I mean, even Hook has it: "Looky Looky I got Hooky!" "I remember you being a lot bigger"-"to a ten year old I'm huge" etc. It just makes the scene better.


The whole point of the joke in SOMi was simply because we see insults fly in sword fights. The practically lifted it from every single sword fight before then anyway, as you have to remember Monkey island is a spoof of all pirate films (at least the first two) so that's why it had stuff like that in.

Originally posted by LucasTones
I don't think Disney would let the film be influenced by Monkey Island in any way, to be honest. Why? Well, its a potentially interesting legal situation. I mean, LucasArts make a game INSPIRED by a Disney ride, then Disney make a film based off their OWN ride, and then the film is INFLUENCED by the LucasArts game. So, who has the copyright? Disney don't want some kind of court case when the film is making as much money as it is. Lucas arts have nothing on POTC otherwise they would have taken action by now.


Originally posted by LucasTones
And you say Keira Knightley's character is like Elaine? Well, if you mean strong willed then you're obviously making a link that isn't there. I mean, I always thought Marian in Raiders of the Lost Ark was like Elaine, and she came 5 years earlier. I mean, in MI2 Guybrush goes to find his EX-LOVER Elaine, who thinks he wants her back. In fact, he wants her GRANDFATHERS map piece. In Raiders, Indy finds his EX-LOVER Marian, who thinks he wants her back. Instead, he wants her FATHERS medallian. Oh my!! See, co-incidences happen. Woop-de-doo.


Frankly, damsels in distress died out with teh silent movie. Heroins have always been strong willed adn able to kick ass at a moments notice, that just the way it goes. if it's the governors daughter thing being to close to her actually being the governor, well, in those times, what's what they had, governors, those were the rulars, MI had to use them because it was set in pirate times and POTC is no different.

Thrik
08-02-2003, 09:55 PM
Monkey Island is a game, not a movie. It is not naturally designed to be a movie, therefore the humour and things we love about the game will simply not work in a film.

There are very few games which have successfully gone to the big screen. What we love about the game would not apply to a movie - it'd just be corny and boring to watch. Monkey Island simply would not work as a movie, and should never be attempted.

Grim Fandango for example was one of the greatest games of all time, containing a beautiful storyline and hugely memorable characters/locations. Would this work in a movie? Hell no!

The game is not adapted to be a movie, since the majority of the game is based around you doing puzzles. The storyline is continued by your puzzles, while in a movie these puzzles would have to be replaced with made-up action sequences and such. The exact same thing applies to Monkey Island.

JawaJoey
08-03-2003, 12:44 AM
I was excited when I saw POTC, because it could mean that the pirate genre will gain interest, and a Monkey Island film just might come into existence. Then, I thought, everyone who didn't know monkey island existed (billions of people) would think of it as a rip off of POTC. :( as has been stated:
And they would simpley thing that a monkey island moie was a complete takeoff from that film so they wouldn't see it.

Monkey Island, any adventure game for that matter, would not easily adapt to a movie. It'd basically be a lot like POTC, but with different characters and a slightly different plot.

Something also previously stated was that the humor and joy of Monkey Island comes from actually playing the game. From being Guybrush, and getting to know him and his antics. Just watching him would make him seem kind of stupid.


But, we're straying from the original topic.
Aspects of POTC and SMI are similar (ghost pirates/captain/ship; kidnap governer's daughter; go save the governer's daughter from ghost captain), however the plots really are different. POTC reminds people of MI, so people are making these connections that are totally coincidental. Everything has been done before, and curses and ghosts and kidnappings are all aspects of pirate movies. POTC is a pirate movie. MI parodies pirate movies. Of course they'll be similar. There may have been someone high up in production of the movie that played Monkey Island and got some inspiration from it, but remember, the ride is the inspiration for both. Not every little thing in the movie is taken from MI.

AND THE DOG WITH THE KEY IS TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM THE RIDE, IN BOTH THE GAME AND THE MOVIE!!!!! Did you think the dog in the game was named WALT for no particular reason??
(as in Walt Disney, for the slow people)

Geez. Didn't you guys ever go to disneyland?

elTee
08-03-2003, 07:01 PM
If anyone had taken the time originally to look around (http://lucastones.mixnmojo.com/jail.html) then maybe we wouldn't have to go around telling everyone NOW. That has been on my site since well before the mojo downtime.

Estjaydee
08-03-2003, 07:38 PM
Monkeys.........does POTC have monkey?


How many if it does?

Joshi
08-03-2003, 07:57 PM
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I believe it has a Monkey in it which also turns into a skeleton in the moonlight. Not exactly Monkey Island now is it? (I think LEC would get bombed if it ever showed cruelty to Monkey's, it was almos bankrupt because of the whole JoJo Sr scenario (anyone else notice that Jojo Sr makes up one half of the fake Elaine at the end of SOMI, so he couldn't have been left hanging there to die?).)

elTee
08-03-2003, 11:28 PM
Ok, interesting developments.
Monkey Island 1 (http://us.imdb.com/Mlinks?0244783) - a list of movies that contain a reference to The Secret of Monkey Island, according to IMDB. See the bottom one...

Monkey Island 4 (http://us.imdb.com/Mlinks?0245097) - same, but for Escape From Monkey Island. Only one film, but I haven't seen it - has anyone else?

MrManager
08-03-2003, 11:44 PM
IMDb is based on user submissions and is not 100% reliable, something which is proven here. The Scary Movie 2 note I'm guessing refers Drunken Monkey stance in EMI (based on the dozens of posts about that on various MI message boards), which is probably again is a reference to a kung-fu movie.

ThunderPeel2001
08-04-2003, 12:28 AM
IMdB is ALWAYS one person's opinion (the person who submitted the information).

~ John

Sarah
08-04-2003, 02:26 PM
Not understanding the reference jokes in a Monkey Island game can prove hazardous to your health, and opens you up to be made fun of. For instance my friend Bill had never heard the classic pirate shanty "Blow the man down," and when he finally did hear it (actually, he only heard the MST3K parody "slow the plot down") he wondered why on earth they were making a reference to the Rumm Rogers theme from the drinking game on Phatt Island.

My point being, if a joke appears in Monkey Island and also somewhere else, odds are Monkey Island is referencing it instead of the other way around, or they're both making reference to some third thing that you've never heard of. While Monkey Island's jokes and scenes are top class, they're pretty much the bottom rung on the global pop culture reference ladder.

In my opinion, even Pirates of the Carribean: Curse of the Black Pearl, while sharing many things in common with Monkey Island, made zero intentional references to the game. Instead, they both drew on the POTC ride from Disneyland, and the general rules of a good adventure story (goodness, you're telling me theres a good pirate and a bad pirate and a woman in distress? gasp they must be the same!). Of course, I wouldn't be completely blown away if in a list of 20 odd things, the production designers listed the art of Monkey Island, but that's unlikely (and what's even less likely than that is that the screenwriters and director threw MI references into the jokes and characters). You never know, though.

... Unless Remi interviews someone.


- From Jake using Sarah's computer.

Joshi
08-04-2003, 05:58 PM
What the freak was that star wars Ep1 references emi? It came out before it. as did a lot of the things on that list. The only thing I can think of is the guybrush standing at the wall with the monkey shadow, and everyone could see that that was parodying episode 1, not the other way around.

elTee
08-04-2003, 06:38 PM
Joshi you tool, "References" means that EMI contains references of the movies / games on the list. The only film IMDB claims to have actually refered to EMI is Scary Movie 2. And for all that means, it could just be that someone has a PS2 and a collection of games in his room, and if you pause the dvd and zoom in you can see EMI among them.

Hee Jake, that happened to me re. Blow the Man Down as well. I was at Universals "Islands of Adventure" in Florida, and on the Popeye rapids ride at one point it plays Blow the Man Down. I was like "RUM ROGERS!! OMG!!!" Whoops.

ThunderPeel2001
08-05-2003, 06:40 PM
LucasTones, you tool! ;)

Lol!

~ John

camaleon
08-07-2003, 04:57 PM
I have seen the film and i liked but at the same time i´ve begun to think that it could be more dificult to do a blockbuster from a MI movie. And all you are right exept that Sparrow is Otis but i still hoping that one day i will see a MI movie...

Dead men tell no tales...

I think that monkey island movie could be diferent anyway that POTH plot is similar to Monkey Isalnd Story.

For example in SMI Guybrush is a teenager and he wants to be a pirat an Will Turner no he does not, Elain is Bigger than Guybrush, and if Meele island is empty is because of LeChuck and that is a part of the story remember all the people is scare and no one in that time wanna be a pirate that is a part of the story, then there are to legends one is the ship with monkeys trained by Herman and the other is LeChucks and Elain story...
I think that you can make more fun, that in POTH...
And with the films you can fill GAPs that the game has, as you know the film would be a littel diferent to be good for other people.

forgive me about my bad english, understand me i'm from México

Keep hoping...

Joshi
08-07-2003, 09:00 PM
I forgive the bad english, but POTH?

Anyway, I saw the movie today. Really enjoyed it, especially the- actually that could be a spoiler. But anyway, I saw no real resemblance to monkey island other that the fact that it had pirates and walking skeletons. The movie seemed to have a much broader look on pirates though as showing them to be called cutthroats for a reason. In the mi world, pirates aren't feared as much as they actually were back then, but POTC sems to hit that hard on the nail. A definate suggestion to movie goers and a lot more bloodshed than any otherdisney movie I've seen so it doesn't hold back at all.

elTee
08-07-2003, 09:51 PM
Yeah I just got back from seeing it too. And the Monkey Island people.. well, I don't think its fair to say Pirates of the Caribbean is much like Monkey Island, because ITS SO MUCH BETTER!! WHAT A MOVIE!! YES!!! And buy the soundtrack.

scabb
08-07-2003, 10:41 PM
The soundtrack was kind of boring, I did like the use of pan pipes at the start though. It definitely could've been a little jauntier. I loved the movie though, although clearly not to the extent that Lucastones did.

As for all this "games are games, not anything else" talk, I disagree completely. One of the main reasons people play adventure game is to be told a story, which is also one of the reasons people watch films, or television.

Granted, there have been no "good" computer-game to movie adaptions, but that's mainly because the games chosen have lacked any sense of story in the first place. Also, because the more popular games are chosen to "adapt", a few million fans of the game are already in the audience.. Also, when you're told that this movie will be about two Italian plumbers having to rescue Princess Toadstool by jumping on the heads of mushrooms and finally confronting a big evil turtle with a spiky shell (Actually, what is Bowser?), and then you'r asked to elaborate, you try doing a good job.

I can see a lot of adventure games working in a different format. Grim Fandango would make an interesting four-part drama, Full Throttle could be easily reinterpreted as a movie, and I'd tune in to see the animated adventures of Guybrush Threepwood.

In short, some adventure games can be more like movies, or novels, than conventional games. And this doesn't mean I think Monkey Island would make a good movie. :¬:

Joshi
08-08-2003, 09:48 AM
The animated adventures of guybrush threepwood would be nice. But I agree on some extent with both of you. It would be quite hard to make a movie primarily around one person who walks around melee island or monkey island on his own. But then, I think the concept of Monkey island could be made into a pretty good movie, if you changed things around. If anything, it could be a pirate spoof movie. It's already halfway there by being a pirate spoof game.

Grim fandango and Full Throttle, could both make pretty good movies as they lend themselves so well to screenplays. Again, a lot of the alone time would have to be taken out as well as the tedious and arduous tasks (such as beating up every biker you come across, it could be replaced with a montage of different fights). And of course item finding is a big problem, but the story could still sell by cutting this down.

ThunderPeel2001
08-08-2003, 05:01 PM
Making a movie of ANY computer game (with the possible exception of Dragon's Lair LOL ;)) would require a ton of changes. For example: How much fun would it be watching Guybrush decipher the "Dancing Steps" in MI? Than get attacked by an insane clown and rhinocerous in the governor's mansion? Even the sword fighting, which would be a highlight I'm sure, wouldn't really make much sense, as the audience wouldn't really care about Guybrush winning in the same way that WE do (because we're CONTROLLING him!).

A lot of the jokes are based on Guybrush saying stupid things and watching the reaction too. But the biggest problem would be that it doesn't really exist in a piratey time. The contents of Grog? Battery Acid and Red Dye #5! POTC was great in that it was an adventure that had a flawless world... it never made references to modern things.

Anyhoo, just my 2c

It would be very interesting to see an MI script and to see if it DID work or not!

~ John

elTee
08-08-2003, 05:32 PM
Well, I'm going to watch the movie again in about 45 mins so I'm going to pay more attention to the music this time. As I remember it, its like Gladiator - both in style and the fact that its awesome.

As for games and films.. they're two different things. I mean, yeah they both rely on plot, but the simple fact is that you watch one of them and interact with the other one. I mean, think of the two movies often regarded as the greatest ever: The Godfather and Citizen Kane. Would either of them make a great game? No.

Many people think Metal Gear Solid would make a good film - in many ways it would. But think about it - all Snake does is walk around from place to place having fights.

Oh well, I dunno. Its obviously not as simple as it sounds - some games might work as movies, and some movies might work as games. I have no doubt that some movies have some great scenes that would transfer brilliantly to the game world - I mean, see the Battle of Hoth in Rogue Leader. However, one scene does not an entire game make.

scabb
08-08-2003, 07:43 PM
Of course the Godfather and Citizen Kane wouldn't make great games. But other movies have, such as Blade Runner and Goldeneye, for example. There are many different forms of movies, and no videogame would ever really be considered as an "Art House" title anyway. I could definitely see musicals though, or even adventures.

And the whole point of adapting something is changing it to suit the format it's being switched to. For instance, instead of just Ben being thrown into the dumpster, his hyperactive diabetic biking compadre could've been hurled in too, and his insulin may be with the gang. And yes, every single "puzzle" would have to be removed too, leaving some games more intact than others.

As for Monkey Island, well a lot of humour in that does derive from interacting with objects, or making Guybrush say stupid things, and it probably wouldn't work too well as a flick. It's not impossible though, you simply give the crew a larger role, remove all the needless characters and tasks, and make it a musical.

undesired
08-09-2003, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by Btiller
And there are no ghost pirates in the POTC ride, just dead skeltons.
There are ghosts that call to you from the caves and beg to tell you their stories. Have you ever ridden the ride?
A Ghost pirate captain must have coem from MI.
Oh yes? Certainly no one ever thought of a ghost pirate prior to 1990 and Monkey Island, you say? This is about the most ill informed piece of drivvel I have ever read in these forums, and most of these guys are under 15. Are you about to claim that the 1960 Scooby Doo Cartoon stole the idea for a ghost pirate from Monkey Island, too? I think I can infer that you've never read any books by Lovecraft, Burroughs, or Stevenson.
And the fat and skinny pirate was absultuly taken from CMI. [/B] I remember some the old Max Fleischer cartoons featuring a pair of skeletons--one fat, one skinny. I'll assume that Max Fleischer travelled 70 years into the future and stole the idea from you, shall I?

Sir, you have an ego that's as big as all outdoors. But on superficial examination, you are simply a small man who is full of ****.
Thanks, laughing boy.

Joshi
08-09-2003, 09:09 AM
People seem to foget that we have a relationship withguybrush as actually thinking ourselves to be him when playing the game. this is why we care so much if he passes these tests or not or rescues elaine. In a movie, it would hjave to actually make us care about him before just jumping in with 'I wanna be a pirate' because chances are, if that were to happen, we wouldn't care less.

ThunderPeel2001
08-12-2003, 01:26 AM
Exactly Mr. Joshi! That's precisely why a film of MI wouldn't work without some SERIOUS revamping.

And there are no ghost pirates in the POTC ride, just dead skeltons.

What about the skeleton that is steering the ship through the storm? Or the one that is drinking wine (as seen in the movie)? Or the one who is sitting in bed reading a map?

Lol!

Small j
08-13-2003, 12:43 PM
I do agree with that thing about MI but Pirates of the Carribbean was alreadya film before and it was taken from the chartoon versoin and I think it was a book.
MI could be made in to a film it`s on likely but think about Harry Potter and also Tomb Raider which was a game before so it still could be a movie.I think it would be good and would be very funny if it was made in to a film.It would be hard and it would have to be changed a lot.ie.the conversation because you choose that so it would have to be changed a lot.

Alien426
08-13-2003, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by Small j
MI could be made in to a film. It's unlikely, but think about Harry Potter and also Tomb Raider which was a game before
Yeah, but take a look at the ratings and reviews that Tomb Raider 2 (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0325703), Resident Evil (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0120804), Tomb Raider 1 (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0146316), Final Fantasy (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0173840), Street Fighter (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0111301) and Super Mario Bros. (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0108255) got...

Do I forget a movie?

elTee
08-13-2003, 09:59 PM
Mortal Kombat :)

kilohoku
08-14-2003, 08:39 AM
For starters this board is for fans to have fun. I think it's totally uncooth for you people to come here just to bash other's ideas. I thought comparing the movie to MI was a fun idea, and yes I still think that there are enough similarities that someone who helped in the production of the movie knew a thing or two about MI and swiped a few things here and there and stuck it in the movie.

Yes, MI as it is would suck as a movie, but no one in their right mind would leave it as it is to create a movie. things would definately have to be changed.

-- duh!!--

Lastly, just because someone wants to have fun and dream that MI had anything to do with the Pirates of the Caribbean movie you should just let them.

It's all in fun. I realise that for every opinion (and that's all it is) there is an opposite, but you jerks don't need to go around bashing everyone for spouting off their hopes and dreams. It's folks like you who sit around hammering others down just so you can feel better about your pathetic life.

You piss me off!!

Alien426
08-14-2003, 10:13 AM
Wow! Dood, cool down before you blow off someone's head with this babble of yours. Are you just overly sensible or can you name a post that was offensive? To me it seemed like a good discussion. Although some points have been repeatedly said. I will do that as well.

Now:
We (actually it's you, the guys who saw the movie) agreed on some things, like that the movie and game draw from the same source (the ride), that a MI movie would have to be altered inseveral ways to make a decent movie and that most game to movie projects were not as good as was hoped for.

Joshi
08-14-2003, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by kilohoku
For starters this board is for fans to have fun. I think it's totally uncooth for you people to come here just to bash other's ideas. I thought comparing the movie to MI was a fun idea, and yes I still think that there are enough similarities that someone who helped in the production of the movie knew a thing or two about MI and swiped a few things here and there and stuck it in the movie.

The starter of this post stated that POTC ripped off MOnkey island completely. as a person, they are entitled to their opinions, but then so are we, and we simply expressed them. It seems the only one around here 'bashing people' is you.

i]Originally posted by kilohoku [/i]
It's all in fun. I realise that for every opinion (and that's all it is) there is an opposite, but you jerks don't need to go around bashing everyone for spouting off their hopes and dreams. It's folks like you who sit around hammering others down just so you can feel better about your pathetic life.

thank you for your imput, now kindly apologise to all of us you called jerks. :D

Mods
08-14-2003, 02:47 PM
You know what, I feel like writing and directing a MI fan film ^_^ Mmm.

m0ds

Jake
08-14-2003, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by ThunderPeel2001
Making a movie of ANY computer game (with the possible exception of Dragon's Lair LOL ;)) would require a ton of changes. For example: How much fun would it be watching Guybrush decipher the "Dancing Steps" in MI? Than get attacked by an insane clown and rhinocerous in the governor's mansion?

Any conversion from one medium to another would require tons of changes. When that happens, you're probably bound to lose a couple of die hard fans who should just stick with the original anyway, but as long as you get the major themes for the characters right, as well as maintain the atmosphere of the original, you'll probably succeed. See the XMen films and Lord of the Rings movies for this (well with the exception of some of the second half of the Two Towers, where they did muddle with the characters themes and sort of broke them).

If a Monkey Island film were made, of course things like jokes involving the SCUMM interface controlling itself behind the wall wouldn't be put in, but a good screenwriter could come up with a successful alternative scene that had "movie" equivilents of the same feelings and joke style. Same with insult swordfighting. That joke is sold in the game because you have to actually go around collecting them, which would seem boring on film. You'd have to put some sort of twist on it, or resort to an evil montage, but the general idea would still be sound. And to pull back one step further from that, just the idea of "a world where pirate swordfights are won by who has the better comeback instead of who is handier with their sword" would be a good enough roadmap to do it right in the hands of a screenwriter who knew what they were doing.

ThunderPeel2001
08-15-2003, 01:07 AM
Yep, Jake, you're right, it COULD be done if someone were good enough... Pirates of the Carribean is actually a great example of what you're saying... Excellent movie based on a few loose ideas.

It'd take someone with the exact right focus to make MI good though (I agree it could be done though!).

It's folks like you who sit around hammering others down just so you can feel better about your pathetic life.

You piss me off!!

You have 23 posts.

I have 336.

I OUTRANK you! ;)

Now be quiet :D

Joshi
08-15-2003, 01:35 PM
There's nothing too wrong with a montage, as long as it isn't accompanied by a god awful song. I mean I love Disney, but do that really have to do that? BUt yes, in the hands of a truley great film maker or director (of course we all remember Speilbergs attempt at pirates, so not all good directors can do different genres) could this. Also in the game, we repeatedly go back to the same place in order to do things (the cannibles vilage) which would seem tiresome and tedious on film (what am I saying, it was tiresome and tedious in the game, if only when we actually replay the game and know we have to go back after doing something else). But a good monkey island film is doable, just not likely, not at least in the enar future.

Originally posted by ThunderPeel2001
You have 23 posts.

I have 336.

I OUTRANK you! ;)

Now be quiet :D

And this ladies and gentlemen is how we do things here on LF. Thank you and good night.

elTee
08-15-2003, 07:25 PM
No way! Those cannibals were hilarious!! They were vegetarian!!

Also, posts: quality, not quantity. So I guess I should win, cos all my posts rock.. except this one.... damn

Joshi
08-16-2003, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by LucasTones
Also, posts: quality, not quantity. So I guess I should win, cos all my posts rock.. except this one.... damn

Was that directed at me? and I wasn't saying we should get risd of the freakin cannibles, why the hell do you think I play through all of the beginning of SOMI? NO, But an audience wouldn't like seeing the cannible,s going off somewhere and then coming back to them in five minutes time, it's too stupid and only just works in the game. But yeah, I'm all for cannibles!

elTee
08-16-2003, 06:40 PM
It wasn't directed at you, I was just joining in the fun.