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dow_30
07-18-2003, 11:17 AM
I feel like I am in limbo. I am set up my vendor last night, but I am hesitant to start advertising my shop until I am in my permanent location.

I need a permanent location so I can:

1) set up shop and advertise it.
2) place harvestors
3) place a factory

I want to get a production cycle going, right now I buy all my supplies and crank out stuff by hand.

PLEASE pick a location soon. We need a central location, a place to call home.

Wraith 8
07-18-2003, 11:50 AM
well first of all.. harvesters can NOT be placed close to the city
they make to much damned noise.

and i have like 6 people who have a spot... i checked it out and its beautifull :D ;) :p.... but not on Corellia.

we are still working on it... but i suggest you place your vendor near a large city.. that way more people will come along

Jan Gaarni
07-18-2003, 12:44 PM
Well, I know exactly what spot I'd like to stay at. :)

I'm gonna get some pros and cons for each spot this weekend, when I get the time.

dow_30
07-18-2003, 01:37 PM
If its the "crafter's retreat" than so be it....is it near any major cities? Let's just make it official. Jan you tipped your hand by saying you wanna stay, Corzip already said six people are there, so you know you want it, so just make it official.

Also, where is the organization. At one time there was an appointed leader for every industry but now I don't see and of these VP's leading. What is our plan? Once the hall goes up we are going to need to have a lot of cash to keep it going. Where is the organized economy, where is the security forces, where is the bH group. Is our plan when the hall goes up to run some deliver missions?

I realize people are playing the game and some got off to a later start, but it has been three weeks now, plenty time for people to explore and mess around. Time to work as a community. I have worked myself to the bone (no pun intended) practically giving armor away trying to hepl out PA members (I lose 190,000 credits in opportunity cost for every ten sets of chtin to =A= memebrs). I do not mind because I would rather help others in the PA then get rich. Soon credits will be worthless anyway. A lot of people have given me bone, hide, and metal and I am grateful, but there is not a sense of community. I think this is relaed to the lack of a permanent city.

Leading up to the launch there was so much talk and promise for the PA, I just want us to follow through and become the great PA we can become.

Exar_reborn
07-18-2003, 01:51 PM
I agree with you 100% dow. All the hype we had about PA plans seems to have slipped away. Nothing is organized the way it was said, I'm not trying to crack down on the leaders but I think we need to get started in the different Departments. Where our central area is (seems you are getting that down now so thats ok) and our central income for the PA.

DirtyWombat
07-18-2003, 06:24 PM
Vega/ dow_30...

I'm your community baby...!!!:D

I agree... I'm giving away whatever I have to any Associate I can find to keep the ball rolling, but your right...
We need a plan of action and local contacts for those of us doing the day to day so that we can get what we have to offer back to the PA...

I'm tied tio Theed for know because I need to keep the minerals flowing, but we should be pooling our efforts...

I mean I gave what I could to help Vega/ dow when he needed it, but I can't harvest enough bone and hide to help him while sampling, crafting, and maintaining harvestors...
It's just too much...

As it is, a typical day consists of making a run to the harvestors, dumping the hopper, running to town to craft 40+ weapons, trying to locate an Associate to distribute them, while running 5K worth of delivery missions in between to have enough credit for tommorow to get the job done again...

Don't get me wrong it's not a complaint...
Cause believe me I'm having fun...
But it is a plea to organize a pool of resources or a contact hierarchy to get what we can back to the PA...
Or at least an associate in need...


Wombat

dow_30
07-18-2003, 06:49 PM
Thanks for the love Ellam and Exar.....

We need to organize. If we all lived as a community we could make a master list of who needs weapons, armor, clothes, furniture, houses etc. Then we could make a list of supplies on hand and suplies needed to make these. Those not crafting could hunt, sample, survey or trade for what we need. Others could be running missions for money. Then we have daily hunts for money and as a PA function. WE could put down heavy harvestors and factories and share the resources and the cost. We sell the excess to outsiders and our city grows. I know it sounds unrealistic, communistic even, but this is just an example of how we can all work together.

Oh well, maybe something will happen at the mysterious Sunday meeting.

Sunshine Badass
07-18-2003, 08:45 PM
I can make 18K in an hour or less doing destroy missions. I can make 4K in seven minutes or less. I have no money problems, USUALLY, but there are times when I actually NEED to run the missions fort an hour or more. If anyone is a little down on their luck, I can pay their PA taxes for that week. I cannot support you all, nor do I want to support you ALL, but if you simply do not have the cash I can pay for you. Please do not take this as an excuse to get poor Arina to pay your taxes each week, only when you are truly unable to make the money yourself.

Do not call on me EVERY week for this, I am not your bank account.:D :D :D

Taos
07-18-2003, 08:50 PM
I also believe that we won't be truely orgainized til we pick a spot for our home. I know I recently visited the location on Corellia and met up with several of you.....we then proceed to get mauled by a grand wrix but that's beside the point. :D The point is....more and more people are starting to hang together and if we can get a "for sure" location, I think this will only continue to get better. I know I enjoy hanging out with all of you [when I do that is :D].

Now Dow_30/Vega, you mentioned the BH group - well let me just say that we're here....I'm a part of it. The story is, BH's are the only elite profession that have to master two different starting professions, so it takes some time to achieve. Now for me personally, I have master scout and I'm a few hours on Rori from master marksmen. After I complete both professions, to qualify for novice bounty hunter, I still need another 40,000 points of combat experience......and you might now how long that can take. So please be patient with us....we are almost upon you. :)

Opa
07-18-2003, 10:26 PM
guys...come to Naboo the spot there is huge full of resources and nobody else knows about it :D

Deathstalker
07-18-2003, 10:27 PM
I'm on all the time and I think that I am one of the most well funded, richest players in our PA if it will help at all I am willing to take up some sort of leadership role, if the current leaders need any help with anything just let me know. Murashu has been doing a great job with the PA hunts, but he has a family and well I'm a college student doing nothing this summer really and if he wants I can organize more group destroy missions to get credits for the PA. Just trying to be helpful so let me know

dow_30
07-19-2003, 12:19 AM
Omir, I was trying to think of groups within the PA, i was not trying to diss the BH faction :)

Exar_reborn
07-19-2003, 01:46 AM
Ok theres the Crafters, Combat Group, BH, Leaders, Smugglers, Entertainers, Merchants, "And all you other people not sitting on a coushin" (A Knight's Tale)

Bogey
07-19-2003, 05:06 AM
Quote from dow_30

If its the "crafter's retreat" than so be it....is it near any major cities? Let's just make it official. Jan you tipped your hand by saying you wanna stay, Corzip already said six people are there, so you know you want it, so just make it official.

Umm the crafters retreat is in the middle of nowhere... hehe noone will ever find it.. thats a good thing if we want to keep the PA location private hehe... takes about 5-10 mins to get to.. depends on how fast a runner you are lol

-=miniSITH=-
07-19-2003, 11:38 AM
We know you guys have picked a spot already..


....So why dont you just tell us??:confused:

-=ReApEr=-
07-19-2003, 12:04 PM
Your wrong, we haven't picked it. We will be discussing it tommorow. ;)

Wraith 8
07-19-2003, 12:32 PM
ok i have had it.

i went away for you people.. i went away to get myself some crafting experience.. you all PLEA for a PA hall.. and im working my ASS off for you people.. i advanced 5 skills in the architect tree this week only... im working on like 20 FREE!!.. listen FREE houses for you all in the mean time im helping people out all over naboo.. im doing my own missions to get the cash for 26 harvesters... ok i got some cash fgrom some people to get me going..... and i appreciate it. i hardly ever leave the retreat.. only to get cash.. then its back to work for you all.

i get like 50 people on the tells every frikken day. and im crafting and craftin and craftin to get to master architect so you people can havce a hall././...
only to find people are still; not happy...
im working as hard as i can .. i have 4 people looking for a place.. and they al want the crafters retreat.. but i didnt make it official for the reason that like more then half of you people havent seen it yet so didnt decide yet.. also becuase like someone here said. its FAR away from any city... but thats what i was looking for when i went there.. piece and quiet.... but now.. when you go there.. there is a small town.. wich i think is cool and all....

yes we are not organaized yet.. muarashu is trying to get some organization in ti..
but i have the feeling if i start ordering you people.. you will grind my head off because im breaking the fundemental base of this PA.

now im alittle torn here.... what is it that you people want?
me ordering? or you being free what you want?

*sighs*

-Wraith 8-

Sunshine Badass
07-19-2003, 06:44 PM
Ahh, come now Wraith. Do not take it to heart. We complain... that is what we do. I have not complained once, Wraith. Nor do I intend to. And no one ASKED you to be an Artisan as far as I know, you took it upon yourself. I cannot stop the twenty something tells you get in-game: "Where are we going to be? Where will I live? How will I get there? I am broke... Feed ME!!!"

I will pay 5K a week, Wraith. Help give you more funds. I may even pay more depending on my financial state. My pleasure. But being a leader takes the responsibility of caring for your people. I see you did that by taking it upon yourself to get to Master Architect by yourself. I see you have severely post-poned your Smuggler profession, and that shows you care about us enough to put your time on the line. Whether you or anyone else in The Associates builds our PA hall, it makes no difference, as long as we build our PA hall. We do not NEED to be a PA even in the first MONTH. We just need to be friends, Wraith. THAT is the MAJOR REQUIREMENT of The Associates. People complain, that is what humans do, but I do NOT believe they are complaining about YOU. They just want to be friends and share a common home, a home that, at the current time, is threatened to be moved.

Everyone likes being rich and powerful, so I can see why they do not want to pay taxes. People are lazy, so I can see why they do not want to go out and make the daily bread. People are afraid of The Associates dying out and failing before it even starts; people fear what they do not know. Fear leads to assumptions.

We cannot assume that our leaders are corrupt, and hold secret meetings behind our backs where they make decisions without our knowledge. It is your choice to give to the PA, just do not expect to get anything back if you so choose to not lend your hand in its infancy.

Wraith, you are doing a great job, but I feel that seperating and isolating yourself was not the smartest choice. It is a bad sign. Just know that people WILL complain with every decision, but give them reasons to trust you and be their friend. Believe me, they will be much more willing to help out if you are friendly and bold in kind. Sorry to say it, but all I have heard from you this past month is how you are tired of hearing people complain. Complaining about he complainers gets nothing accomplished. With you sitting out in the middle of nowhere like you have been, you have dropped off my list of people to play the game with. You are too consumed by the madness that is the Master Architect. If you are not having fun playing the game, you are doing something SERIOUSLY wrong in there. Come out of seclusion and be our friend again Wraith. We will love you for it.:D :D :D

Goose_Of_Mercy
07-19-2003, 08:57 PM
Hey all,

If you guys want to help out the PA some more you can always suggest places where we should stay and not worry so much about it. 3 weeks is nothing, many people don't play 10 hours a day so they can strive to build the PA. Most people are indulging themselves into this wonderful game and enjoying themselves. Stop worrying so much and start having fun guys.

It IS ONLY a game.

~SK~

Bogey
07-20-2003, 02:11 AM
hmm i thought corzip was going for master architect... imma feel stupid if u are corzip hehe..

Bogey
07-20-2003, 02:14 AM
aaahhh lol you are corzip lol... never knew..

Deathstalker
07-20-2003, 05:33 AM
Sunshine said it great I'm not gonna repeat anything at all that he said. Just that Wraith aka Corzip for all you that do not knwo aka Bogey you are doing a great job you know I've got your back and you have me for your steady source of income to help with the harvestors.

As far as getting organized no one can with the friend list broken so I think everyone understands.