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BongoBob
08-06-2003, 12:57 AM
My mom got this in a E-Mail, and it's quite interesting. Just read this...


"Enteresting!!


> > DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING
> >
> > A few things you may not know His name wasn't Martin Luther. It was
> > Michael. It was decided "Martin Luther" had a more prominent ring to
>it,
> > so he
> > went by that. He never legally changed his name. To this day, he lived
>and
> > died as Michael King.
> >
> > While working on his dissertation for his doctoral degree at Boston
> > University, he heavily plagiarized from another author who had done
> > research on a subject similar to Kings. An academic committee later
>found
> > that over half of King's work was plagiarized, yet would not revoke his
>
> > doctrine. King was
> > dead by this time, and the committe ruled that revoking the title would
>
> > serve no
> > purpose. It was also discovered that King's famous "I Have A Dream"
> > speech was also not his own. He stole it from a sermon by Archibald
> > Carey, a popular black preacher in the 1950's. King was under FBI
> > surveillance for several years (until he died) due to his ties with
> > communist organizations throughout
> > the country. King accepted money from the organizations to fund his
> > movements. In return, King had to appoint communist leaders to run
> > certain districts of his SCLC (Southern Christian Leadership
>Conference),
> > who then could project their communist ideas to larger audiences. A
> > federal judge in the 60's ruled
> > that the FBI files on King's links to communism to remain top-secret
>until
> > 2027.
> > Senator Jesse Helms appealed to the Supreme Court in 1983 to release
>the
> > files,
> > so the current bill in the Senate to create the Martin Luther King
>Federal
> > Holiday could be abolished. He was denied.
> >
> > One of King's closest friends, Rev. Ralph Abernathy, wrote a book in
> > 1989 in which he talked about King's obsession with white prostitutes.
> > King would
> > often use church donations to have drunken sex parties, where he would
> > hire two to three white prostitutes, occasionally beating them
>brutally.
> > This has
> > also been reported by the FBI agents who monitored King. King was
>married
> > with
> > four children.
> >
> > 2nd Monday in Jan. is Martin Luther King Day. A day when this country
> > comes to a screeching halt so we can have parades and memorials to
>honor
> > this
> > man, a man that most of the world views as a saint for his role in the
> > civil
> > rights movement. No other public holiday in the United States honors a
> > single
> > individual. Of all the great leaders in our Nation's history - none of
> > them have their own holiday. All of our great war heroes share Memorial
>
> > Day. All
> > of our great presidents share President's Day. Yet King - a man who was
>a
> > phony, a cheater, a traitor, and a sexual degenerate - gets a day of
>his
> > own. I
> > have a big problem with that. I'm not trying to take anything away from
>
> > African
> > Americans, An African- American is someone who was born in Africa, and
> > migrated to America, those born in America,are "just" Americans! boy do
>
> > "they" love
> > those hyphenated names? makes 'em feel important!) but I am trying to
>point
> > out
> > that (1) the vast majority of people are sorely mistaken about Michael
> > King,
> > and (2) that reverse discrimination is blatantly obvious everywhere you
>
> > look
> > today.
> >
> > Watched the news lately? President Bush just got himself in some hot
> > water when he spoke out against the University of Michigan for giving
>black
> > applicants precedence over more qualified white applicants. Now Jesse
> > Jackson, the
> > NAACP, and other black leaders are trashing him, without a doubt
>planning
> > how
> > they can use this against his re-election campaign. Think about that -
>Bush
> > just made a stand for equal human rights,but low and behold - in this
>case
> > they don't want to be treated as equals. Make up your minds. White
>males
>is
> > the most abused ethnic group in this country today. Can I do anything
> > about it?
> > Absolutely not. If I dare speak out I'll get labeled a racist, harassed
>
> > by the media, subsequently lose my job, and never be able to show my
>face
> > in public again, but what I will do is send out this email to as many
> > people as I can.
>
>
>"

This is interesting. Whatcha think?

ZBomber
08-06-2003, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by BongoBob
My mom got this in a E-Mail, and it's quite interesting. Just read this...


"Enteresting!!


> > DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING
> >
> > A few things you may not know His name wasn't Martin Luther. It was
> > Michael. It was decided "Martin Luther" had a more prominent ring to
>it,
> > so he
> > went by that. He never legally changed his name. To this day, he lived
>and
> > died as Michael King.
> >
> > While working on his dissertation for his doctoral degree at Boston
> > University, he heavily plagiarized from another author who had done
> > research on a subject similar to Kings. An academic committee later
>found
> > that over half of King's work was plagiarized, yet would not revoke his
>
> > doctrine. King was
> > dead by this time, and the committe ruled that revoking the title would
>
> > serve no
> > purpose. It was also discovered that King's famous "I Have A Dream"
> > speech was also not his own. He stole it from a sermon by Archibald
> > Carey, a popular black preacher in the 1950's. King was under FBI
> > surveillance for several years (until he died) due to his ties with
> > communist organizations throughout
> > the country. King accepted money from the organizations to fund his
> > movements. In return, King had to appoint communist leaders to run
> > certain districts of his SCLC (Southern Christian Leadership
>Conference),
> > who then could project their communist ideas to larger audiences. A
> > federal judge in the 60's ruled
> > that the FBI files on King's links to communism to remain top-secret
>until
> > 2027.
> > Senator Jesse Helms appealed to the Supreme Court in 1983 to release
>the
> > files,
> > so the current bill in the Senate to create the Martin Luther King
>Federal
> > Holiday could be abolished. He was denied.
> >
> > One of King's closest friends, Rev. Ralph Abernathy, wrote a book in
> > 1989 in which he talked about King's obsession with white prostitutes.
> > King would
> > often use church donations to have drunken sex parties, where he would
> > hire two to three white prostitutes, occasionally beating them
>brutally.
> > This has
> > also been reported by the FBI agents who monitored King. King was
>married
> > with
> > four children.
> >
> > 2nd Monday in Jan. is Martin Luther King Day. A day when this country
> > comes to a screeching halt so we can have parades and memorials to
>honor
> > this
> > man, a man that most of the world views as a saint for his role in the
> > civil
> > rights movement. No other public holiday in the United States honors a
> > single
> > individual. Of all the great leaders in our Nation's history - none of
> > them have their own holiday. All of our great war heroes share Memorial
>
> > Day. All
> > of our great presidents share President's Day. Yet King - a man who was
>a
> > phony, a cheater, a traitor, and a sexual degenerate - gets a day of
>his
> > own. I
> > have a big problem with that. I'm not trying to take anything away from
>
> > African
> > Americans, An African- American is someone who was born in Africa, and
> > migrated to America, those born in America,are "just" Americans! boy do
>
> > "they" love
> > those hyphenated names? makes 'em feel important!) but I am trying to
>point
> > out
> > that (1) the vast majority of people are sorely mistaken about Michael
> > King,
> > and (2) that reverse discrimination is blatantly obvious everywhere you
>
> > look
> > today.
> >
> > Watched the news lately? President Bush just got himself in some hot
> > water when he spoke out against the University of Michigan for giving
>black
> > applicants precedence over more qualified white applicants. Now Jesse
> > Jackson, the
> > NAACP, and other black leaders are trashing him, without a doubt
>planning
> > how
> > they can use this against his re-election campaign. Think about that -
>Bush
> > just made a stand for equal human rights,but low and behold - in this
>case
> > they don't want to be treated as equals. Make up your minds. White
>males
>is
> > the most abused ethnic group in this country today. Can I do anything
> > about it?
> > Absolutely not. If I dare speak out I'll get labeled a racist, harassed
>
> > by the media, subsequently lose my job, and never be able to show my
>face
> > in public again, but what I will do is send out this email to as many
> > people as I can.
>
>
>"

This is interesting. Whatcha think?

Interesting, but is it actually true? :)

volcom
08-06-2003, 01:13 AM
I agree, it would be interesting to really know if it were true

El Sitherino
08-06-2003, 03:04 AM
you know all of those "facts" are fake right?
well except for the name one. but he did legally change it.
I've done biographies on him for school i've read every biographie that was written on him at the time. most of those facts were displayed in neo-nazi programs. just so you know. and back then everyone famous was somehow tied to "communists".

and take note this person who is so patriotic doesn't even take the time to spell interesting right.

that person got some of the facts from here
http://kkk.com/abolish.htm

SkinWalker
08-06-2003, 05:14 AM
It never fails to amaze me how quick people are to believe the fantastic ;)

Here's a Link to go to and see for yourself: http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/hoaxes/hoax5.asp?HName=Martin+Luther+King+Hoax

Here's an excerpt from that link for those who are lazy:
This hoax email mentions several questionable statements about Martin Luther King, Jr. to push its malicious agenda. For the better informed, this email could appear racist and hate-driven. It pieces together unconfirmed information commonly found in known racial Web sites to depict King as morally-depraved and unworthy.

Email hoaxes are worse than viruses.... they propagate through ignorance rather than code.... Uhhh... no offense intended Bongobob. My best friends and favorite family members send me the same stuff on an almost daily basis... I have one friend that always sends this stuff to me and asks "is this real?"

She's a scientist, so you'd think she'd pick up on the pattern... whenever she asks that question, it is always a hoax! :D

Darth Groovy
08-06-2003, 05:23 AM
Yeah,

Dunno about you, but I always believe email forwards.

Especially ones used to denounce a man with no personal intentions other than to seek peaceful coexistance between ethnic groups. Peace is just such a horrible thing.

Thanks for sharing this valuable tid bit with us.:rolleyes:

P.S. I plagarized most of this post from myself, and now the FBI is following me.

P.P.S. My name is not really Darth Groovy, but I call myself Darth Groovy.

P.P.P.S. This post was actually written by someone else who happens to have the same user name I have.

Ratmjedi
08-06-2003, 05:37 AM
I found that intresting but I knew it was all mostly maid up stuff. My ex girlfriend always said that he cheated on his wife and that she didn't like him and all that crap. I just find it sad how many people buy into trash like this.

And Groovy were always watching ;)

:lsduel: :duel:

BigTeddyPaul
08-06-2003, 06:38 AM
I will give the statement about black applicants getting in above more qualified white students some credit even if Bush did or did not say it. That is a good topic for the Senate. Should it be ethical to give less qualified people spots in colleges that are not privately owned based on their skin color? There are also economic and social things to help base your answer on too but it is still a good question.

Is it wrong if I, as a white male, not be accepted to a university but a black male or female with a lower GPA and no extra extracurricular activities be accepted to that same university based solely on gender and/or skin color?

BigTeddyPaul

Datheus
08-06-2003, 08:03 AM
No, of course that's not ethical. Not in any means. However, it can't be looked at just based on skin color. That, in a sense, really has nothing to do with it. I would hope that when they allow these black students with a lower GPA in that they EXAMINED their past. If they came from a small black community in Alabama with like 500 people, obviously this community wouldn't have the resources it required to teach these kids on a level expected by a university. Nonetheless, that doesn't effect your level of "wisdom". If said child had grown up in a rich white community, it is of my opinion that he would have as much intellectual potential as if he had grown up in the poor black community. If the college determines that the black guy with a lower GPA has more ACTUAL intellectual potential than the white kid, the college has every right to accept the black kid, not the white kid. That's what college is about to those people. Your potential. And potential can't be measured only by a number.

BUT!

If these black kids are coming from richer areas and have just as much an opportunity to "prove" themselves and simply screw around, I would be appalled that the colleges are accept these kids because they'd be accepting them ONLY because of the color of their skin. Obviously in this scenerio the white kid is much more deserving.

And of course, there are plenty of poor white communities across the country, so if a rich black kid with a high GPA is tossed out because they want this white kid with a low GPA but possibly high potential, I would again be quite angry if anyone tried to argue it. Just because you have a high GPA doesn't mean you're smart. I've seen plenty of complete idiots come from colleges. Intellegence and wisdom (and all of its potenial therein) is much more than the color of one's skin or the number written on their high school diploma.

-edit- And as I just said in #echonet:

<Datheus> That's the problem in the issue, I think.
<Datheus> People are too quick to play the race card these days.
<Datheus> And interestingly enough, some people would call me a racist for saying that.
<Datheus> And that just proves my point.

Darth Groovy
08-06-2003, 08:18 AM
Then there is people like our president which may have went to a good school because his daddy had alot of money. His acts alone should demonstrate that the guy has no shread of common sense in him whatsoever. People with alot of money ALWAYS get to go where they want, and some of them are powerful enough to have the homework done for them.

If you look at the poorer communities and public schools in the area, and if you ever attended such a school (as I did) you will find the curiculum has a lower standard of requirments for graduation. Most teachers in those schools are simply trying to keep students from killing each other. Alot of good merrits go un-noticed in such schools, and over all self asteem is lower than your wildest imaginations. Sometimes all it takes, is to escape that environment and acomplish a few things before you reach your full potentional. I always thought I was a marginal student, and looked forward to a life of manual labor, until the econmy busted, and then I went back to college, and suddenly found myself doing things that I never before thought I could do. At first I thought maybe I was just doing better, but a few teachers that had been in the field many years told me of students that were lead astray, and were not aware of their "full potentional". Some of them went on to tell me that it was in me all along, I just doubted it so much, that I had believed it. I currently have a 3.6 GPA (only because I screwed up earlier on), and have pulled down streight A's for the last three semesters. Most people are not given a chance, but I speak from experience in saying that kids that go to public schools are normally overlooked and led astray. Trust me, the school you go to and the teachers you have make all the difference in the world, which has NOTHING to do with color, it's mostly the area, or region they grow up in, which normally and unfortunately consists of a large number of what the government still ignorantly classifies as "minority groups".

leXX
08-06-2003, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by BongoBob
This is interesting. Whatcha think?

I think it is racist KKK propaganda, and a load of BS, that's what I think. If you really want to know who Martin Luther King was, and what he did in his lifetime, go the library and read about him. Do not ever believe anything you read in an email such as this. :rolleyes:

Redwing
08-06-2003, 09:27 AM
...

It amazes me that people believe this stuff.

I could even believe it's a joke email. I mean, look at this:

No other public holiday in the United States honors a
> > single
> > individual. Of all the great leaders in our Nation's history - none of
> > them have their own holiday. All of our great war heroes share Memorial
>
> > Day. All
> > of our great presidents share President's Day.

Washington's Day? Columbus Day? I believe Lincoln has one as all, but I'm tired and can't say for sure.

I could look up every single "fact" listed in that little gem of bull****, and I'm sure I'd find out they were all made-up, but frankly I'm tired, want to go to bed, and don't feel like dedicating anymore of my time to racist propaganda like this.

Let's put it this way. Even if everything in that email was true, who cares? It's what he did for our country that counts. Even if he was really named Michael, plagarized half his material, beat prostitutes, and was a Communist, I say so what? It doesn't change what he did. Not that I believe a single word of it.


White
>males
>is
> > the most abused ethnic group in this country today.

...

STTCT
08-06-2003, 09:30 AM
Well I believed it at first read but was kinda going.....wha??

Then I read the hoax thing.

You know why I believed it? Because there are bunch of people out there who are glorified and probably only did one great thing and a bunch of bad things. There are plenty of people out there in the world who go unrecognized that do a lot of great things and don't have a shady background.

Well at least Martin's not really hoax!

C Shutt
08-06-2003, 09:54 AM
Does this mean that the bulk e-mails I keep getting claiming they can help me "STAY HARD LONGER" are lying too?

Ray Jones
08-06-2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by Carl Shutt
Does this mean that the bulk e-mails I keep getting claiming they can help me "STAY HARD LONGER" are lying too?

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Carl. i just laughed my ssa off! lololololol.

..


heehee.. here are some tipps:

find a girl who likes havannas. but you should like plums too.
try the balcony.
try pantees.

;)

I dont get emails since i only have an emailaccount because i wanted to register at LF..

tsk. what shall i say..?

anyway. MLK is real .. the rest .. i dont care about.

STTCT
08-06-2003, 10:21 AM
yes they do carl. how can they enlarge my penus if i haven't even got one?! :eek: :confused:

HertogJan
08-06-2003, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by STTCT
yes they do carl. how can they enlarge my penus if i haven't even got one?! :eek: :confused:

You never know what doctors can do nowadays!! ;)

Oh he's right about the Bush thing though, why should black Americans, who are as American as any other American, get precedence over more qualified white applicants?? That's discrimination too you know :)

STTCT
08-06-2003, 10:50 AM
no that's called afirmative action.

Ray Jones
08-06-2003, 11:01 AM
smoking 'white' guys aged 40 are a minority because they arent called a minority..

;)

an ssahole stays an ssahole stays an ssahole.. and if he's painted pink.

STTCT
08-06-2003, 11:07 AM
sometimes I worry about you ray.... :D

Reclaimer
08-06-2003, 11:13 AM
All I can say is drum roll please... WTF!


off topic:sometimes I worry about you ray....


Ok how old are you STTCT? 7 no 71/2!

STTCT
08-06-2003, 11:29 AM
WTF? Why are you making fun of my age???

Darth Groovy
08-06-2003, 12:19 PM
Hmm, I see a flame war as the indirect result of an otherwise insulting thread. Not like I did not see this one coming, surprised it lasted this long.

Well, case closed, so is this thread.