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The Cheat
08-16-2003, 12:20 AM
i was wondering what you all think, i have read some rather racist coments in some profiles

in the profile of NOSman308 i found a rather racist comment saying "I am a Natzi, no not a nazi, a natzi. I just kill Jew's for fun"

http://www.sig-x.com/x/thecheat/untitled.php

now i dont know what this person was thinking for i dont see what is funny in that sentance. a friend of mine (who is jewish) showed me the profile and it made me rather angry.

what do you all think? do some of these profiles go too far? and if so how do you think it should be dealt with?

XERXES
08-16-2003, 12:25 AM
well I think peope take a lot of things said in profiles too seriously too. I mean come on, what are you going to do about it?

There are Neo-Nazi groups in the US that are rather scarry you cant just tell them to simply quit because its not right. It is their beliefs, no matter how weird/messed up they are.

My friends and I all happen to be a little bit racist towards hispanics and african americans. It is the way we were brought up in the South and I cant help it. But I am mature enough to know when it is appropriate to say certian things and when it is not.


Personally I find his name NOSman to be more annoying than his profile comments. I just think its silly nowadays that kids put the words entry level import jap car and fast together. I also think that the fast and furious movies are silly.

Tesla
08-16-2003, 12:26 AM
I have AIM, but i haven't been bothered to configure my profile yet, i suggest that they be ignored...if it really bothers you, report it to AOL who make AIM, otherwise i can't suggest what else to do. :(

Acrylic
08-16-2003, 01:13 AM
Well, I don't care if people say racist comments. Or sexist comments. Or any "ist" comments. Doesnt bother me at all. Even when people talk crap bout white people. If thats how they feel, its alright with me. Thats what they believe, then they can stick to it. It's not up to me to change them, because if someone tried to change the way I felt, then you got trouble coming to ya.

And, you can't take things too seriously...
like South Park. If you take things like that too seriously then, you must be messed up.

Hellfire Jedi
08-16-2003, 01:20 AM
I'm jewish myself, and all this bull**** really hurts me. =/

The Cheat
08-16-2003, 01:46 AM
yeah my friend was really pissed when he read the profile and i can understand i mean he is joking about one of the most catastrofic acts in history

matt--
08-16-2003, 02:01 AM
It's thinking like this that leads to censorship. Next you'll want to censor what people can put on websites or in publication.

SkinWalker
08-16-2003, 02:38 AM
While certainly tasteless and disagreeable, I have to agree with Matt. The guy has Freedom of Speech as a far as I'm concerned.

Interestingly enough, his poor taste in describing himself gives incite to what kind of person his is, even if it is only a joke. So, in a sense, the profile worked.

Censoring him would only make it that much easier to censor that which someone else finds disagreeable later, and again, and again...... eventually we'd be censoring those who spoke out against the majority, simply because it was disagreeable. That is what people who really think like this guy want.

Redwing
08-16-2003, 02:41 AM
That guy is a total ass, but it should NOT be dealt with...and I could go on, but I think SkinWalker pretty much summed it up.

ZBomber
08-16-2003, 02:57 AM
You''l find a lot of jerks like that in your life. You will learn to ignore them. :)

XERXES
08-16-2003, 03:03 AM
you said "some" implying there were more than one? Do you have more examples to show us?

**send me a PM if you need help finding more I'll make one!! ^_^

El Sitherino
08-16-2003, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by ZBomber
You''l find a lot of jerks like that in your life. You will learn to ignore them. :) or learn to punch them. sometimes the best therapy is to release your emotions.


anyways. I don't agree with what he says, but I will defend his right to say it. (voltaire for those who don't know)
He has as much a right to say that as we do to criticize him for what he has said.

Elegy
08-16-2003, 04:54 AM
Actually that was a quote from a book on Voltaire. "...as if he were to say 'I don't agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it'." Damned if I can remember who wrote it though. I found that little factoid while looking up a Neizche quote of all things, and was rather surprised. But essentially yep, that attitude is the epitome of Voltaire.

And it's a sentiment I agree with as well. Who gives a crap what this ass has in his profile? People say things to me every day. Sometimes it's rascist, sometimes just merely intended to be hurtful. But it kind of loses its effect when you stop and realize that something might have been said not for its truth, even if it might ring true at times, but for the sole intent to hurt. And when I stop and think of it in those terms, the sting goes away and it just becomes a pathetic attempt at getting a rise out of me. I don't let people get the best of me. Do you?

So screw em'. People can say what they want. But if they don't like me, or they don't like something associated with me, then they can just simply fornicate themselves with a hot iron rod.

And besides, there's another famous quote that goes "It is better to remain silent and be thought the fool than to speak and remove all doubt." I think it can apply to this guy.

Kstar__2
08-16-2003, 09:46 AM
the problem is, these people don't understand what this little sentence can do to others.

Mex
08-16-2003, 12:50 PM
Well welcome to the internet! :¬:

KBell
08-16-2003, 01:12 PM
Some people do put some bad things in their profiles, but you dont have to read em :p


You got to remember, you can be whoever you want to be on the internet :D

The Cheat
08-16-2003, 01:21 PM
that would be how i am a little yellow guy from another planet that makes cakes for strong bad and watchs tv while lying in a crisper drawer

ZBomber
08-16-2003, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by The Cheat
that would be how i am a little yellow guy from another planet that makes cakes for strong bad and watchs tv while lying in a crisper drawer

Yes exactly. ;)

We all think its wrong and everything, but, tehres nothing we can do. He can make an ass out of himself all he wants.... =S

Kurgan
08-17-2003, 01:21 AM
Many good points made here.

On these forums we try to balance free speech with a civil & fun community atmosphere, but the fact is that you can't control everyone, everywhere, eventually you have to decide to stick up for yourself and not let the petty predjudices of others get you down. Now if we're talking about people attacking you on the street, yes that's definately bad, but small minded opinions can be refuted in debate or simply ignored.

Of course, if somebody were to post something like that in their profile HERE, you can bet they'd be hearing from us. ; p

PS: This is almost something that belongs in Senate Chambers...

Hellfire Jedi
08-17-2003, 02:26 AM
Originally posted by The Cheat
that would be how i am a little yellow guy from another planet that makes cakes for strong bad and watchs tv while lying in a crisper drawer
That has a uzi. :D
This stuff really hurts me. It seems lame too me that it does...I just get hurt at the ammount of racisom on the internet. i wonder...If I gave the IP to the police action could be done. I could/others that livein the US could prolly sue him. Its the US remember..:rolleyes:

ET Warrior
08-17-2003, 02:29 AM
Originally posted by Hellfire Jedi
That has a uzi. :D
This stuff really hurts me. It seems lame too me that it does...I just get hurt at the ammount of racisom on the internet. i wonder...If I gave the IP to the police action could be done. I could/others that livein the US could prolly sue him. Its the US remember..:rolleyes:

Yes, it IS the US. He is entitled to a little thing called Freedom of Speach. His profile is not threatening a specific person, and therefore absolutely NOTHING can be done to him, nor SHOULD anything be done.


People are, and always will be ***-holes. Deal.

Hellfire Jedi
08-17-2003, 02:35 AM
What do you think I always do? I have to put up with being called a "nig**r jew" more than most people. I'm good in a HL mod TS, and I get called by some jerkoff a nig jew because I' m doing good. I take this VERY personnaly and his profile IS VERY offensive to jewish people.

Wanderer
08-17-2003, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by The Cheat
i was wondering what you all think, i have read some rather racist coments in some profiles

in the profile of NOSman308 i found a rather racist comment saying "I am a Natzi, no not a nazi, a natzi. I just kill Jew's for fun"

http://www.sig-x.com/x/thecheat/untitled.php

now i dont know what this person was thinking for i dont see what is funny in that sentance. a friend of mine (who is jewish) showed me the profile and it made me rather angry.

what do you all think? do some of these profiles go too far? and if so how do you think it should be dealt with?
The profile is simply disgusting. This guy doesn't know what he's written there!

Acrylic
08-17-2003, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by Hellfire Jedi
What do you think I always do? I have to put up with being called a "nig**r jew" more than most people. I'm good in a HL mod TS, and I get called by some jerkoff a nig jew because I' m doing good. I take this VERY personnaly and his profile IS VERY offensive to jewish people.

Well, ya know, if someone said "I kill white people for fun" Does it look like I'd give a rat's ass? No. Because it doesnt mean they want to kill me. So, like ET said, he has freedom of speech and is entitled to his/her opinion.

So just deal with it. :rolleyes:

Darth Groovy
08-17-2003, 04:36 PM
http://www.themanipulation.com/seatbelts.jpg

SkinWalker
08-17-2003, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by Hellfire Jedi
That has a uzi. :D
This stuff really hurts me. It seems lame too me that it does...I just get hurt at the ammount of racisom on the internet. i wonder...If I gave the IP to the police action could be done. I could/others that livein the US could prolly sue him. Its the US remember..:rolleyes:

Undoubtedly, there is nothing that could be done other than report it to AOL... it is their perogative whether or not to do anything. The only way a suit would work is if the guy killed someone for real, then perhaps AOL could be sued for not removing it earlier, however it is doubtful. The fact that he has this in his profile is doubtless irrelevant to whether or not he actually kills.

It's freedom of speach. Like it or not, that's what we have in the United States. I don't like most of what I see on the internet. My fix: don't go to sites I don't like, ignore the crap I do see, or complain to mods where appropriate. Or, sometimes I counter with a debate where appropriate.

Matt-Liell
08-17-2003, 05:34 PM
Ok, you are going to encouter racist, sexist, stupid jerks in your life but unfortunatly saying stuff to them is like throwing a bouncy ball at the wall, it'll just bounce right of it. Now this guy is a total frikin idiot but I'm afraid you probably can't do anyting it'll just encourage him as some people have said, just learn to ignore the scum of humanity.

Hellfire Jedi
08-17-2003, 05:47 PM
mmmmm gallows sound nice for these scum. :D
I try to deal, BTW, its not easy when they insult you when they don't know you at all. Plus insulting a religion...I don't get it whats the big deal. I'm jewish, that means I need to get insulted by people saying 'burn him.'??

ZBomber
08-17-2003, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by Hellfire Jedi
mmmmm gallows sound nice for these scum. :D
I try to deal, BTW, its not easy when they insult you when they don't know you at all. Plus insulting a religion...I don't get it whats the big deal. I'm jewish, that means I need to get insulted by people saying 'burn him.'??

I don''t get why people insult other religions..... How is that accomplishing anything? Are they trying to get someone away from a certain religion. Most people are loyal enoguh to their religion, and aren't gonna change, so I don't see a point other then making someone feel bad about themselves. :rolleyes:

Groovy: Best. picture. ever! :)

Acrylic
08-17-2003, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Hellfire Jedi
mmmmm gallows sound nice for these scum. :D
I try to deal, BTW, its not easy when they insult you when they don't know you at all. Plus insulting a religion...I don't get it whats the big deal. I'm jewish, that means I need to get insulted by people saying 'burn him.'??

I'm roman catholic, and yes, there are people who criticize me on that being my religion. But I dont give a rats ass on what they think.

ZBomber
08-17-2003, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Acrylic
I'm roman catholic, and yes, there are people who criticize me on that being my religion. But I dont give a rats ass on what they think.

Blah, stop saying Rat's ass. :p

XERXES
08-17-2003, 08:25 PM
hey, on the history channel there is a show about Neo-Nazism in America. I told you this stuff still exists in America, and no doubt...in other places as well. But sadly, it does.

I seriously hope you didnt bother teh kid. I am not taking sides or anything, I just dont think its worth the trouble to go through.

oh...one is saved through Faith and that alone, not through good deeds...but that is just what I believe so I dont give a rats ass what anybody else thinks and if it bothers them then that is their problem, not mine.

The point I am trying to get to is that we are allowed to believe whatever we want, and also I dont believe in forcefully changing other peoples beliefs.

If I want to believe that when I die I go into the clouds with pink flying hippos and flying green diarhea squirt monkeys everywhere then so be it. :p (I am not implying that I do, just trying to make a point)

Matt-Liell
08-17-2003, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by Acrylic
I'm roman catholic, and yes, there are people who criticize me on that being my religion. But I dont give a rats ass on what they think.

:eek: Acrylic you are scaring me you are my twin! Ya I am Roman Catholic aswell and I go to church everyweek and ya alot of people make fun of me, well screw them I don't care its them who are gonna be sorry in the end!;)

El Sitherino
08-17-2003, 10:37 PM
people insult me for not having a religion. they don't even know me as a person. but I don't bitch about it. If they continue after I tell them to stop I either report it or punch them.

depends on my mood before they insult me.

XERXES
08-17-2003, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
If they continue after I tell them to stop I either report it or punch them.

depends on my mood before they insult me.

Originally posted by InsaneSith

or learn to punch them. sometimes the best therapy is to release your emotions.

yes punching may be one of the best ways to release emotions, but not on other people. What if that person were to hit back harder? mm?

legameboy
08-17-2003, 11:08 PM
Lol, Insane Sith punches people but he thinks Jackass is inhumanitarian... lol. :p (I'm joking by the way.)

Well, all I can say is we have to live with it, I get insulted (sometimes on this forum ^^) for being a Christian, but I just live with it, and then use all that emotional (anger) energy to run.

Elijah
08-18-2003, 12:42 AM
They say things like that to get a rise out of people... so your posting this only completed his task.

El Sitherino
08-18-2003, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by legameboy
Lol, Insane Sith punches people but he thinks Jackass is inhumanitarian... lol. :p (I'm joking by the way.)

Well, all I can say is we have to live with it, I get insulted (sometimes on this forum ^^) for being a Christian, but I just live with it, and then use all that emotional (anger) energy to run. i never said it's inhumane. I just think it's stupid. and I said if they keep attacking me. it's not like I hit them right away. usually it's after they get aggressive that I hit them. like when they make threats or aggressive motions, such as a lunge.