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Compa_Mighty
07-31-2001, 02:08 PM
With all these about the expansion, I searched a little information about the Yuuzhan Vong, hey they're really cool. Now I see why everybody wants them in the X-Pack. *runs out and buys Vector Prime*

Now, so the races we'd like are Yuuzhan Vong and Mon Calamari, which is the third?

I'd like Falleen or Black Sun.

Dorsk8199
07-31-2001, 02:32 PM
Well if we are going to have the Yuuzhan Vong in there then we should have the Chiss too. The Chiss would probably be the best shot at stopping a Yuuzhan Vong army. I personally think those two races would own all the others though.

The other option is the Noghri. They wouldn't be great at long distance combat but up close they would just destroy enemies. They could even find some way to put in stealth skills or something so that they can get up close without being detected.

Compa_Mighty
07-31-2001, 02:44 PM
The Vong could own every civ indeed, but there are ways of balancing them. For instance they don't have Jedi, and are immune to Jedi mind trick (conversion), but could be weaker against Jedi melee attack.

Think of the Vong as the Byzantines in AoK... slow and expensive civ, not deadly at early stages of the game, but almost unstoppable in the Last tech level. They could lack last armor and attack upgrades, or don't have any economic bonus. That should make them balanced.

Who are the Chiss?

Darth_Rommel
07-31-2001, 02:46 PM
Chiss= Thrawns race

Dorsk8199
07-31-2001, 02:50 PM
They are Thrawn's people. The Dark Tide series I believe has more of them. In that series one squad of them help out the New Republic in fighting the Vong. They flew through a whole battle with the vong and didn't lose a single fighter and saved Rogue Squadron. It is hinted that the Chiss have been fighting some powerful battles in the unknown regions with powerful foes that could have whipped the New Republic and Empire. They sound pretty tough.

Compa_Mighty
07-31-2001, 02:53 PM
Hey, those are cool!!!

*So they finally gave Thrawn a race*

Darth_Rommel
07-31-2001, 02:56 PM
Yes, young padawan they are awesome ;)

Dorsk8199
07-31-2001, 03:08 PM
The more I think about it the cooler the Chiss would be as a playable civilization. They could even have Baron Fel and his son as hero characters that fly the Chiss aircraft. I doubt that we will ever see this happen though. There have to be authors out there that want to explore the Chiss civilization and not be held back by a game's developers. I guess we can only hope.

Tie Guy
07-31-2001, 03:41 PM
Yes, chiss would be nice, i really like their blue lasers.

Paragon_Leon
07-31-2001, 03:54 PM
Bespin-civ !

come on, you know it makes sense !

Tie Guy
07-31-2001, 04:03 PM
Bespins, yeah. They could have the cloud car, and the twin-pod cloud car, and the combat cloud car, and of course, the heavy combat cloud car. Oh wait, they also have no story!

Paragon_Leon
07-31-2001, 04:07 PM
i smell cynicism...

look at ESB. look closer. yeah, those aren't just cloud cars you see in the air, my friend. Bespin is a civ like Naboo. All you knew about Naboo land-vehicles, was that there were two: the Gian-speeder and that other....right....speeder. But they DID make a civ out of them.

Tie Guy
07-31-2001, 04:20 PM
Oh, yeah, a floating city woiuld have lots of ground forces, what was i thinking. [/sarcasm]

Darth_Rommel
07-31-2001, 04:20 PM
*giggles* ;)

Compa_Mighty
07-31-2001, 04:23 PM
Come on you know it. The Chiss, the Falleen or the Black Sun are the best options to join the Vong and the Mon Cal in the Elite Group for the expansion. I will do a Poll.

Paragon_Leon
07-31-2001, 04:23 PM
i take it from your sarcasm that you think Bespin has no floor to walk on whatsoever.
***sigh***

'You have learned much, young one, but... etc.'

Tie Guy
07-31-2001, 09:58 PM
It has a floor, but no ground, oh, and i'm sure an AT-AT would fit very nicely in one of Cloud Citys "spacious" hallways. [/sarcasm]

Kayote
07-31-2001, 11:27 PM
what about the Ssi-ruuvi?

Tie Guy
07-31-2001, 11:32 PM
Hey Kayote.

WE already talked about them some, but they don't have any ground forces, period. They just stun everyone within a 9 kilometer radius and then just go and pick them up.

Silenthunter
08-01-2001, 12:42 AM
What About Coruscantians?

Starnick10287
08-01-2001, 12:44 AM
Thats the Empire civ. (then 4 years after battle of endor it's the new rebulic civ) :P

Kvan
08-01-2001, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by silenthunter
What About Coruscantians?
You mean having Coruscant as a civi? Maybe, but personally I think that Coruscant varies in species too much.

Kvan
08-01-2001, 02:43 AM
Has anyone made the suggestion of having the Yevethans as a civi? They are kind of like the Vong though.

Paragon_Leon
08-01-2001, 05:30 AM
hey, Tie guy,

no offense, but i found out that Cloud City actually is one of the confirmed locations for battle...
you might want to vent the sarcasm to Lucasarts...
:D :D :D

Worf
08-01-2001, 08:35 AM
The Chiss could be balanced out. They don't believe in attacking first, so their combat units could be more defensive and wouldn't be suited for mass battles, since the Chiss prefer to use tactics than force.

When it comes to Chiss Jedi, I imagine something like the skill of Darth Maul's fighting and the mind of Thrawn...very deadly.

Darth_Rommel
08-01-2001, 09:31 AM
hmmm... sounds like a good idea Worf! :)

Compa_Mighty
08-01-2001, 01:07 PM
Good idea Worf, now try to convince everyone The Chiss are right for the x-pack. When we reach an agreement, and have some features discussed, we should unite all the info and send it to Lucas Arts as "The Galctic Battles Forums Expansion Ideas" or something like it. They won't do everything, but maybe they take some of our ideas into consideration.

Kvan
08-01-2001, 01:16 PM
The only problem is that the Chiss aren't that well known as a species. Frankly to me they are boring, except for Thrawn of course :)
I think for the expansion, it should be Vong/New Rep. for one era and Episode two (two civi's.) for the older era.

Compa_Mighty
08-01-2001, 01:20 PM
KVan, the wookies aren't that known except for Chewbacca.

The New Republic?=Rebels

The Yuuzhan Vong and the Mon Calamari are the two civs we have chosen we would like in X-Pack. We're looking for the third.

Kvan
08-01-2001, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Compa_Mighty
KVan, the wookies aren't that known except for Chewbacca.

The New Republic?=Rebels

The Yuuzhan Vong and the Mon Calamari are the two civs we have chosen we would like in X-Pack. We're looking for the third.
I'll have to disagree, if you go up to someone and ask them what a Chiss is they are gonna think your nuts but if you ask them what a wookie is.....they are gonna think your nuts but they're gonna know what a wookiee is.
The New Republic are like the rebels but thats all I could think of as a civi for the Vong era.
Your saying the Mon Cals. are a good civi, well aren't they part of the Rebels? A big part I might add. I guess they could add the mon cals to the rebel civi....that's a little stupid though

Dorsk8199
08-01-2001, 01:50 PM
The Chiss are perfect for this game. They might not be all that well known but they are a great civilization for this game. Think about it Thrawn was the best strategic mind in all of star wars. What type of game is this real time strategy:eek:. The Chiss were practically designed for this game. They are fierce intelligent warriors that believe in honor and trial by fire. In my opinion that is in no way boring. :p

Compa_Mighty
08-01-2001, 01:50 PM
Let's face it Kvan, only hardcore fans know the names of the species in Star Wars. Maybe you and I lnow what a Bith is, but most people won't, not even about Wookiees.

In such a way, Wookiees are also part of the rebels. Mon Cal have completely different technology. Yes they have the Mon Cal cruiser the Rebels use, but that unit is not in the game. They could be a great water civ.

The New Republic would be the same as the Rebels. The civ around the timeline from the Vong? I can think of two:
The Chiss
The Bothans

FlyBOy
08-01-2001, 01:58 PM
how bout peace brigade for a civ from the vong timeline?

Kvan
08-01-2001, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Compa_Mighty
Let's face it Kvan, only hardcore fans know the names of the species in Star Wars. Maybe you and I lnow what a Bith is, but most people won't, not even about Wookiees.

In such a way, Wookiees are also part of the rebels. Mon Cal have completely different technology. Yes they have the Mon Cal cruiser the Rebels use, but that unit is not in the game. They could be a great water civ.

The New Republic would be the same as the Rebels. The civ around the timeline from the Vong? I can think of two:
The Chiss
The Bothans Dorsk8199 the Chiss aren't boring, but I think there are better civi's out then besides the Chiss. Maybe it's the fact that they don't feel Starwars-ish to me? What new technology do you think they could bring?
Compa_Mighty, yeah I think the bothans could work....they could be really good at stealth maneuvers.
Or maybe a civi of Biths j/k :band:
I still think the Mon Cal's are too close to the rebels to be considered a civi of its own. How about Quarren:)?
Am I the only one who thinks that thinks the Chiss shouldn't be in the expansion?
FlyBOy, what do you mean?

FlyBOy
08-01-2001, 04:03 PM
The Peace Brigade from the new jedi order novels. They're the group of humans who have allied themselves with the Yuuzhan Vong.

Dorsk8199
08-01-2001, 04:04 PM
My impression of the peace brigade is that they are more intelligence dealers not warriors. I also didn't think they were all that organized. Like the people in the brigade don't know exactly who else is in the brigade they just know their contact with the Vong. Just my take on it though.

Kvan
08-01-2001, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by FlyBOy
The Peace Brigade from the new jedi order novels. They're the group of humans who have allied themselves with the Yuuzhan Vong.
I think that they would be better suited to be included in the Vong civi. I don't think they are "strong" enough to have there own civi.

Compa_Mighty
08-01-2001, 04:12 PM
Look, that's what we should do. I'll post a topic where evreryone can post 3 civs they'd want for the X-Pack.

The conditions are:

Only post the 3 civs and why you would like them, no arguements allowed.

Is this alright?

FlyBOy
08-01-2001, 04:16 PM
yeah, i guess Kvan:(

Kvan
08-01-2001, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Compa_Mighty
Look, that's what we should do. I'll post a topic where evreryone can post 3 civs they'd want for the X-Pack.

The conditions are:

Only post the 3 civs and why you would like them, no arguements allowed.

Is this alright?
Yes you have my permission to do that :D

Kvan
08-01-2001, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by FlyBOy
yeah, i guess Kvan:(
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to shoot down your idea's, I'm just expressing mine. You've come up with very valid ideas :)

Compa_Mighty
08-01-2001, 04:21 PM
I wasn't asking you if I could, I was asking you what'd you thought.

I have a quote for you:

Ok kid, don't get cocky -Han Solo, Star Wars

FlyBOy
08-01-2001, 04:24 PM
No Kvan, your ideas are much better, but thanks:)

Kvan
08-01-2001, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Compa_Mighty
I wasn't asking you if I could, I was asking you what'd you thought.

I have a quote for you:

Ok kid, don't get cocky -Han Solo, Star Wars
I know what you meant :)
Yeah starting another thread would probably be good since it's starting to go off the subject of the Vong.

FlyBOy
08-01-2001, 04:26 PM
yeah, start a new thread

Compa_Mighty
08-01-2001, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by Kvan

I know what you meant :)
Yeah starting another thread would probably be good since it's starting to go off the subject of the Vong.

Sorry if I souded rude :D

Kvan
08-01-2001, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Compa_Mighty


Sorry if I souded rude :D
It's ok, if I took offense we would have had a flame war started. Your lucky I didn't ;)

FlyBOy, thanks for saying my idea's are better but they aren't. :)

Darth_Rommel
08-03-2001, 11:22 PM
nah... they are made up of too many different species :(

Tie Guy
08-04-2001, 10:55 AM
yeah, let's stick to the majot species.