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Andy867
09-07-2003, 09:50 PM
Sorry to break it to ya Matrix Reloaded die-hard fans, but apparently the movie didn't do well enough, because according to the latest figures, Pirates of the Caribbean ( A VERY GOOD MOVIE indeed) passed up Matrix Reloaded movie and is the #2 film of the year, just behind Finding Nemo.

Sam Fisher
09-07-2003, 09:54 PM
Well, I can't judge because I never watched any of them:(

MaulerZ
09-07-2003, 10:01 PM
I like all those movies listed so it dont matter to me.....:o

The Count
09-07-2003, 10:46 PM
I don't really care; Terminator 3 was this years definitive action film and that was just a rehash of of the second one.

The Cheat
09-08-2003, 12:55 AM
there have been a lot of awesome movies this year and it all leads up to this december when return of the king comes out

legameboy
09-08-2003, 01:15 AM
You are right, Pirates of the Carribean was a SUPERBLY EXCELLENT movie. I'll take pirates over bullet-time any day of the week. ;) :p I'm joking, it really doesn't matter, The Cheat is right though, it all leads up to Lord of the Rings: Return of the King. ;) Finding Nemo was a pretty good movie, I'm not suprised it was #1. :D

Zappa_0
09-08-2003, 01:18 AM
Yea I think Terminator 3 was pretty good, and may have been this summers best movie. I havent got to see PotC yet, but I might try to watch it soon.

obi
09-08-2003, 01:32 AM
Well, Reloaded is the number one R-rated movie of the year anyway...I suppose that would suffice the die hard Matrix fans.

Darth Eggplant
09-08-2003, 03:03 AM
apples and oranges boy, and take it from this sith lord produce, you be talkin' crazy sillyness. Reloaded came out in May. may is NOT SUMMER. Pirates came out in SUMMER, summer is NOT MAY. and Reloaded is being played still in IMAX. PIRATES IS NOT!

I loved Pirates, but mister silly pants film cricket;
get yo facts straight before you be making foolish
threads like this one.

Andy867
09-08-2003, 03:20 AM
Darth Eggplant ---> I never said it was the #2 movie of the summer ... I said of the YEAR... Big difference. :D

Originally posted by Los Angeles (Rueters) Through Yahoo! Movies
... Meanwhile, "Pirates of the Caribbean" passed "The Matrix Reloaded" to become the No. 2 movie of the year, with $282 million banked so far.

So there you have it:)

Eldritch
09-08-2003, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by Andy867
Darth Eggplant ---> I never said it was the #2 movie of the summer ... I said of the YEAR... Big difference. :D


So there you have it:)
I think that has mostly to do with the American filmgoing audience - most of them are barely smart enough to buy a ticket, let alone understand a complicated and brilliant plot like the one in the The Matrix Reloaded.

They need a movie where we see a half naked girl and a bunch of stuff gets blown up (T3) or a movie whose plot was so predictable it could've been written by a 12 year old (Pirates of the Caribbean). It was good, but it was a mindless, brainless movie that added nothing to the history of film... at the end of the day, it's just another movie that made money, like Dumb and Dumber or Ace Ventura.

Darth Rythe
09-08-2003, 10:01 AM
Well, these things happen.

The Count
09-08-2003, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by Eldritch
I think that has mostly to do with the American filmgoing audience - most of them are barely smart enough to buy a ticket, let alone understand a complicated and brilliant plot like the one in the The Matrix Reloaded.

They need a movie where we see a half naked girl and a bunch of stuff gets blown up (T3) or a movie whose plot was so predictable it could've been written by a 12 year old (Pirates of the Caribbean). It was good, but it was a mindless, brainless movie that added nothing to the history of film... at the end of the day, it's just another movie that made money, like Dumb and Dumber or Ace Ventura.

Do you know how much The Matrix borrows from the Terminator franchise?

Oh and I think the Matrix had as much stuff blown up as there was in Terminator 3 (which didn't make as much money as Reloaded)

I shouldn't really be so offended by this thread as I'm not American but preferring Terminator 3 to the Matrix Reloaded doesn't measure your intellect.

Also I'm thinking you forgot how successful Reloaded was in the States.

Sivy
09-08-2003, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by obi-wan13
Well, Reloaded is the number one R-rated movie of the year anyway...I suppose that would suffice the die hard Matrix fans.

damn right! *high fives obi*

...*and humps his leg *


:D

besides box office receipts don't always reflex the quality of the movie.. i mean look at home alone. family films always do better

revolutions to going to kick ass

toms
09-08-2003, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by Eldritch
I think that has mostly to do with the American filmgoing audience - most of them are barely smart enough to buy a ticket, let alone understand a complicated and brilliant plot like the one in the The Matrix Reloaded.

we have entered a weird alternate universe where Matrix Reloaded is cited as an example of "intelligent" movies in order to degrade dumb american action blockbusters that are all big computer generated explosions and no plot... somebody pinch me.

From such promise, it has actually turned out to be a pretty terrible year or so for movies. The latest bond started well, but degenerated into exactly the dumb-action-movie mentioned above, matrix reloaded conned a lot of people into thinking it was actually clever, and was boring, spy kids 3 was a huge let down, the hulk was ok, but disappointing, POTC was great fun, but hardly a classic. I can actually only think of a couple of films i have enjoyed this year... T3 was much better than i expected (even if JC was a wuss) but not a patch on the 1st two. X-men 2 was probably my favorite of the year.... but even that wasn't an all time classic.

All hopes rest on Kill Bill and Return of the King.

oh, and i watched Freddy vs Jason at the weekend... excellent stupid old-school horror with lots of blood. :D

Redwing
09-08-2003, 04:18 PM
It's an R movie. Of course it's lower than other movies - less people can go see it ;)

However...I liked Pirates better. You just can't beat Johnny Depp. :D

Darth Groovy
09-08-2003, 04:24 PM
As long as I get to see the conclusion of the films, I could give a crippled crab what the box office dictates...

RoguePhotonic
09-08-2003, 10:56 PM
It made about 275million...that is very good....poor T3 made like 160million...probably wont be a T4 :(

XERXES
09-08-2003, 11:10 PM
I honestly didnt like the Matrix Reloaded very much, I saw it at my house about a month ago. When it was over I was just like...ok whatever, its ripping off Terminator even more now than the first one did.

The Count
09-08-2003, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by RoguePhotonic
It made about 275million...that is very good....poor T3 made like 160million...probably wont be a T4 :(


It made alot more (350M If I am correct) and T4 (you forgot the rest of the world's box office count) script is nearly compelted.


Funny Futurama quote

"the USA is part of the world"

Fry "Wow I have been gone along time!"

Classic.

XERXES
09-08-2003, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by Eldritch
I think that has mostly to do with the American filmgoing audience - most of them are barely smart enough to buy a ticket, let alone understand a complicated and brilliant plot like the one in the The Matrix Reloaded.

They need a movie where we see a half naked girl and a bunch of stuff gets blown up (T3) or a movie whose plot was so predictable it could've been written by a 12 year old (Pirates of the Caribbean). It was good, but it was a mindless, brainless movie that added nothing to the history of film... at the end of the day, it's just another movie that made money, like Dumb and Dumber or Ace Ventura.

I dont like how you are assuming some...oh wait...most...hell I could even say all beacuse you said "they" combined with "most" Anyway, I find it offending that you are calling Americans "barely smart enough to buy a ticket"

Pirates of the Carribean was an excellent movie...and its not about the history of the film because its FANTASY.

I could go on about black people, africans, brittish, french, germans etc etc are retarted and silly, but I wont because it will get me in trouble. I only think it is fair and appropriate for you not to do so with Americans. Also Britian wouldnt even be on the map anymore had the smart Americans not helped them in World War 2.


also I never go see movies in the theaters, I have a steady supply of bootlegs that I recieve. I wonder how fast I can get ROTK:D My reason for saying this is...if its this easy for me to get them, then I am sure there are LOTS of others getting bootlegs as well...so you can never count on box office figures to be totally accurate, they can only be an estimate/guildline.

The Count
09-08-2003, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by XERXES
Also Britian wouldnt even be on the map anymore had the smart Americans not helped them in World War 2.


As far as I know Eldritch aint British however I am a resident there and thats aload of bollocks Britain wouldn't be on the map because it was Soviet Russia who truly beat Nazi Germany not America.


Also Britain fought them off at the Battle of Britain (their finest hour, I'm not British so I can't say)


However I agree with the principle that what Eldritch said was aload of ignorant self rightgeous bollocks.

Darth Eggplant
09-08-2003, 11:21 PM
:o gee come to think of it, this thread has nothing to do with summer movies vs those out in may, boy do I have egg all over my aubergine.:eek:

anyhow as da Groovster says, if you like a movie it does not matter what film crickets say. right now Toronto has too many film crickets as it is film festival time. anyhow about my first post in this thread, never mind.:D

XERXES
09-08-2003, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by The Count
As far as I know Eldritch aint British however I am a resident there and thats aload of bollocks Britain wouldn't be on the map because it was Soviet Russia who truly beat Nazi Germany not America.


Also Britain fought them off at the Battle of Britain (their finest hour, I'm not British so I can't say)


However I agree with the principle that what Eldritch said was aload of ignorant selfrightgeous bollocks. well that is somewhat true, but do you know what stopped Russia from going on and taking over the rest of Europe? Our Atomic Bomb, which they did not have at the time. Also, lol, this is funny...my environmental history teacher got a little off topic today and well he called the Czar of Russia the "A-hole of Europe" so I said "which one?" and he replied "All of them!" dunno, I thought it was funny.

And if Eldritch IS American, what ignorancy he possesses.

The Count
09-08-2003, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by XERXES
well that is somewhat true, but do you know what stopped Russia from going on and taking over the rest of Europe? Our Atomic Bomb, which they did not have at the time. Also, lol, this is funny...my environmental history teacher got a little off topic today and well he called the Czar of Russia the "A-hole of Europe" so I said "which one?" and he replied "All of them!" dunno, I thought it was funny.

And if Eldritch IS American, what ignorancy he possesses.


Russia taking over the rest of Europe is an orthadox stance that over the years has lost its credibility as a Historical interpratation.

The Atomic bomb wasn't needed; the Japanesse were willing to give up anyway.

America isn't the saviour of Europe however MArshall aid was a God-send ,but the Europeans would have eventually got themeselves out of that rut.

BongoBob
09-09-2003, 12:19 AM
This discussion is so heated, I need a fan!
<_<
>_>
Forget I said that
*runs out of thread*

j/k:D
I havn't seen any of the movies discussed besides Finding Nemo. I have a question for you people who have seen the 2nd Matrix.My mom said that she'll let me see it IF it has no f-bombs in it. Does it? I know 1 didn't have it at all, but does #2?

Haha, I said #2:p

MaulerZ
09-09-2003, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by BongoBob
This discussion is so heated, I need a fan!
<_<
>_>
Forget I said that
*runs out of thread*

j/k:D
I havn't seen any of the movies discussed besides Finding Nemo. I have a question for you people who have seen the 2nd Matrix.My mom said that she'll let me see it IF it has no f-bombs in it. Does it? I know 1 didn't have it at all, but does #2?

Haha, I said #2:p

I don't remember any F-bombs being dropped....although I could be mistaken....

BongoBob
09-09-2003, 12:31 AM
I hope not. That's the only reason I was able to see the original matrix. Is there alot of blood shown, though? I'll still be able to see it, but my mom doesn't like alot of bloody gory scenes.

leXX
09-09-2003, 09:06 AM
I don't wanna hear no more "if it wasn't for us" crap. :rolleyes: Get this thread back on topic.

I havn't seen POC unfortunately. I've heard it's excellent, and I'm gonna go see it soon, but so what if it's ahead of Reloaded in the box office? It's a family film, so more people are able to see it, but if it's that good, then it deserves it's spot above Reloaded. Die hard Matrix fans such as myself don't care about box office figures. It doesn't make the slightest bit of difference to our enjoyment of it.

Andy867
09-09-2003, 09:10 AM
Ahh.. LexX speaks.. Sup LexX anyways.. I just thought I would make this thread to prove to anyone who would ever try to make a thread saying that Matrix Reloaded is the #1 movie of the year. Which we all know is not true, since there much better films IMHO, plus there is still the lord of the rings which will smasch even the #1 seeded film so far this year, Finding Nemo. But then there is also Revolutions to look forward to.

leXX
09-09-2003, 09:16 AM
Sup Andy. ;)

Yes, there are some great films to look forward to indeed. ROTK and Revolutions to come. I have a feeling ROTK will come out on top, but I am extremely looking forward to both.

At the end of the day, all that matters is that you were entertained.

Sivy
09-09-2003, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by leXX

At the end of the day, all that matters is that you were entertained.

absolutely :thumbsup:

The Count
09-09-2003, 09:55 AM
At the end of the day, all that matters is that you were entertained

Couldn't agree more.

BongoBob
09-09-2003, 02:02 PM
Exactly. But I believe that revolutions will get more than reloaded. I just have a feeling about it, because DIE-Hard Matrix fans saw the 2nd one, and like it. Critics, on the other hand, sad it was bad, didn't like it, too confusing, leavs ya hanging, etc. Well, it should tie up all the loose ends and is the finale, so more will see it.

Eldritch
09-09-2003, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by XERXES
And if Eldritch IS American, what ignorancy he possesses.
I am American, but I wonder who is being ignorant here? I love my country, but you can't deny the facts - most Americans are self-centered and enjoy mindless activities. TV, movies and the computer have almost completely replaced reading, theatre and true social interaction.
Anything that gives them cause to think too long (or requires actual thought at all) is branded "boring" or "stupid." And with good reason - look where we're at education-wise compared with the rest of the world. I'm not "bashing" America, if that's what you're going to accuse me of. I'm simply accepting the facts for what they are.
Which is not to say that we don't have a great deal of people that don't fit the mold I described above, but quite a bit do. How many high-school students can't read a simple sentence aloud, or complain about reading but cheer a movie?

I agree with leXX, as she makes a good point. And like she said, let's get back on topic.

XERXES
09-09-2003, 02:54 PM
well back on topic...I understood the matrix reloaded if that what you are getting at Eldritch. And in my opinion...the bottom line is well...the matrix is in my eyes is stated in this sentence.
"hey this looks awfully like what might happen if Sarah and John Connor were killed in terminators 1 and 2" When I explained to my gf exactly what happened and the reasons and everything about the matrix she then brough up the fact that it totally rips off the first two terminators without me even saying so. However, there are some cool fight scenes though...but sadly...the fighting scenes in the matrix are heavily computer generated...unlike for example from LOTR where Vigo in particular and then the rest of the main actors all do their own fighting and stunts without computer enhancement to make them float around or attack at in-human speeds.

I am sure that lots of Americans are not rather bright...espically in the most southern states (sc hah!) but being in college I notice that lots of people are still very bright and smart. Yes most college people enjoy partying and having fun but damn..they also know how to get their work on too. High School in America is seriously a joke unless you are taking AP classes...and even then those clases are still easy for me.

I dont feel like argueing about "what ifs?" of history anymore. I do it enough in class.

RoguePhotonic
09-09-2003, 10:12 PM
My mom said that she'll let me see it IF it has no f-bombs in it

What's an F-Bomb?:confused:

XERXES
09-09-2003, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by RoguePhotonic
What's an F-Bomb?:confused: the great bomb that killed thousands of people...agh, I mean threads here in lucasforums. :giveup: