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El Sitherino
09-12-2003, 01:32 AM
well I heard this morning from my mom a kid that goes to my school was shot. they didn't say the name. I was suspended today so of course I couldn't figure out who it was. well it turns out it was one of my friends and I was one of the last people to see him alive. It was tuesday morning just after 1st period I was late to wake up and so I was on my way to school well on my way there he was walking off somewhere with some guy I didn't know. I was going to go with him but I changed my mind. He was found yesterday shot in the head and his body left in a ditch. I feel weird wondering what would have happend had I gone with him.:(

http://www.nbc5i.com/news/2474256/detail.html

whitedragon
09-12-2003, 01:55 AM
hey man im sorry. thats really sad. you have my prayers.

Sam Fisher
09-12-2003, 02:12 AM
Sorry about that man:(

legameboy
09-12-2003, 02:16 AM
I'm really sorry, InsaneSith, you are in my deepest prayers. :(

Kain
09-12-2003, 02:24 AM
THATS STRAIGHT ****ED UP!! That happened to one of my friend's friends. Damn man. Deepest sympathies.



(Go and singlemindedly avenge your friend)

SkinWalker
09-12-2003, 02:27 AM
I just heard about that on the news not more than 5 minutes ago and immediately thought about you. Mostly since you are the only high school kid I know of in Crowley. I wish I could say something meaningful that might make you feel good... but I don't know that there are such words.

There is no way to know what might have happened had you walked off with him. But one thing is for sure... since you stayed behind, you might be able to give the authorities a description of the person you saw with Daniel.

gorganfloss
09-12-2003, 03:17 AM
Well, what they say is right. Never talk to strangers.

Sorry man, I know how you feel. It sucks when people you know die.:(

Guardian Omega
09-12-2003, 03:21 AM
Man, I never get why people do this stuff. It just pisses people off and does nothing good. My condolences to you.:(

Jared
09-12-2003, 05:17 AM
dude...sorry about that...I don't know what I would do if I lost a friend....

Clemme w/Stick
09-12-2003, 06:31 AM
You said it yourself. Life is cruel some times, and it happens when you least expect it. I couldnt imagine how you feel, and therefore I'm sorry for you. If you wanna talk you knoe where to find me.

Once again I'm sorry.

-Clemme

HaruGlory89
09-12-2003, 08:19 AM
Sorry, dude. My condolences. You're lucky you didn't follow him. Don't talk to strangers and warn your friends to be more careful.

TheHobGoblin
09-12-2003, 09:54 AM
Man that really sucks. I'm gonna pray hard for ya in my prayers.



Society is realling odd. Good luck in the future.

RoguePhotonic
09-12-2003, 01:21 PM
Sounds like he pissed someone off since he was shot in the head....you play with fire you get burned I guess.

KBell
09-12-2003, 03:07 PM
Did ya ever think he didnt piss anyone off and that he was in the wrong place at the wrong time Rogue? Not everyone has to piss someone off for them to get shot in the head....sometimes.



My sympathies Sith.

XERXES
09-12-2003, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by RoguePhotonic
Sounds like he pissed someone off since he was shot in the head....you play with fire you get burned I guess. I doubt that is what happened, most people are smart enough to not piss off a big black man with a gun. Or an ignorant rich white man with a gun. Or a drunk redneck with a shotgun. and so on...


btw Insanesith dont let it get to you man, keep on shining.

Crazy_dog no.3
09-12-2003, 03:48 PM
Sorry to hear that.:(

Kurgan
09-12-2003, 03:54 PM
What a terrible thing to happen, especially to someone so young. I'm sorry for your loss and for your friend.

I hope things can turn out for the best.... ie: the killer is found, and the innocent go free.

Tie Pilot
09-12-2003, 06:15 PM
Sorry to hear that, you have my sympathies, i hope they catch the B*stard.

El Sitherino
09-12-2003, 06:25 PM
after alot of thinking i remembered that i did know the person he was with was another junior named harris. he had recently bought a gun that matches the kind used to kill daniel. daniel would never piss anyone off either, he has never made anyone mad. me and my friends just think harris might have gotten someone to shoot daniel just because he could. we say harris got someone because we know harris doesn't have what it takes to shoot someone. not to mention he has been acting weird since daniel was found.

also i'm grounded and i shouldn't even be here. but I have to talk to somebody, and i need to talk to my friends because we are going to go to daniels house to see his parents and to talk with everyone that was a real friend of daniel.

today some people really pissed us off by saying because daniel's parents didn't want a formal funeral where everyone wears a suit and church music is played that daniel is going to hell. Daniel wasn't a church person. He also never saw us as formal suit wearing people as we never saw him as one. We had to put up with a bunch of crap given to us by the christian community of the school which is really pissing me off and even right now i just feel so angry. This sadly isn't the first time a friend of mine has died. :(
This sh*t just shouldn't be happening to people so young, especially Daniel, he was a guy that even when pissed off he would be nice and talk to you and not just blow up in your face. He would even talk to strangers(students) and ask them how they are doing, I mean if anyone should have been shot it should have been me.
Daniel also smoked weed with me and the police found that out and they constantly asked if drugs were an issue in his death. not to mention the reporters are pissing off all of us by asking us questions that just make things so horrible when what we need is to just be left alone so we can talk about things that we had done with daniel we need to mourn not be surrounded by *******s condemning daniel and ******* reporters asking if this was a drug gang violence issue. Daniel wasn't involved in gangs. we ended up just telling one reporter to "F*CK OFF!"

anyway, I'm off to go punch the punching bag and then take a shower and go to daniel's. I probably won't be on much for a while.

ZBomber
09-12-2003, 07:24 PM
Jesus Christ. :|

Its not fair that kids like that kill others. They are the ones who should be shot, Our socieity really is ****ed up, and we have to do something to stop all this crap..

Anyways John, you and your friend will be in my thoguhts. :(

RoguePhotonic
09-12-2003, 10:54 PM
Well it's true that may not be what happened but it sounds like it...wrong place wrong time doesn't happen much when it comes to being shot.

wassup
09-13-2003, 12:24 AM
Sigh...the media...cant live with them, cant live without them.

My deepest sympathy to all those affected.

:frownhug:

RoxStar
09-13-2003, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
I was going to go with him but I changed my mind. He was found yesterday shot in the head and his body left in a ditch. I feel weird wondering what would have happend had I gone with him.:(

Hey, don't beat yourself up. This is always normal, when a someone you are close to dies, or gets hurt, you wonder what you could have done differently to make it not happen.

Tyrion
09-13-2003, 02:27 AM
Just when life gives ya lemons, and you make lemonade, it decides to go sour...

Best of luck to go with you, IS. I've never had a close friend die, so I cant really say anything to cheer you up. Just remember that you do have other friends. And hell, just reflect on it all. That can help alot with it.

El Sitherino
09-13-2003, 02:46 PM
UPDATE:
they caught harris and his father hopping a fence with a bloody rug/sheet. and he's in jail and he failed the lie detector test. so he's involved we know he can't be the shooter because he doesn't have what it takes to kill someone. The ideas police are throwing around are very brutal, the funeral home had to reconstruct alot of daniels face because it was beaten and battered along with the rest of his body. there's no reason that anyone could have done this, daniel was a good guy to everyone there's no way he could have pissed anyone off. All of daniels closest friends including I, went to his house yesterday after school to hang out and remember daniel. This was the first time I got to meet his parents and I just can't believe this had to be the way for me to meet them. today the really close circle is going to go up to "The Hill", a hangout where we used to always go and have parties, we're going to have a huge bonfire to remember him the way we always knew and loved him, the loving, friendly, partying guy he was.

The funeral is not going to be really orthodox in fact one of the songs we are going to play at the funeral is Tupac - Life goes on. That song fits our group so well that, it's really scary. :(

After all of this I realized how precious life really is, I mean when you are little and you see people die it's different from when you're older and you see someone die. It seems unfair, unjust compared to when you're little you have the feeling death is fairytalish it's like something you would hear in a tale. I don't really know what I'm feeling right now, or what I'm thinking.

Tyrion
09-13-2003, 03:10 PM
Mostly because when you were a kid, you either are too ignorant to understand death, or you never had anyone you knew deeply(excluding grandparents) die.

Then when you get older, you still feel like that. Until life kicks you in the ass.

Let's just say he's in a better place right now(which is probably true, considering how depressing and cruel life can be).

KBell
09-13-2003, 04:07 PM
the key to living a sucessful life is staying away from depression in my opnion. When i see a person depressed, that usually leads to drugs, and that leads them to giving up, and i dont respect quitters at all.


So Sith, try keeping your head up instead of moping, no matter how hard it is, cause depression can lead to some very bad things.

Khier
09-13-2003, 11:15 PM
That would be pretty horrible to go through, you certainly have my sympathies, InsaneSith.

Kjølen
09-14-2003, 01:01 AM
Oh Dear. =(
I feel terrible Sith. I couldn't iagine what it be like to loose a close friend. Why I havent even lost any friends that I remotely know.
(My sisters friend died, but I didnt know him, and My Grandpa died, that was pretty sad.)
I'm praying right now, for everyone and everything. I hope you feel better.
=/

Cmdr. Cracken
09-14-2003, 02:37 AM
I'm sorry man, that's like suckage^7.

Lost Welshman
09-14-2003, 08:11 AM
Man, I'm Sorry InsaneSith. :(

If that every happened to one of my friends I'd lose it. I mean, I've lost enough people in my life already, and everything in my life is fubar.

You have my deepest sympathies :(

Clemme w/Stick
09-14-2003, 09:34 AM
I'm relieved to hear that they caught Harris and his dad.
From what your describing I dont wanna think about what they did to him, before actually killing him. I mean beating him with a bat and afterwards killing him, thats just cruel :(.
Its always sad to hear about a killing and it it really hurts me when its a highschool kid, with his whole life a head of him, is just sad.

Once again you have my sympathy.

-Clemme

TiBo
09-14-2003, 12:07 PM
I'm really sorry man. I'm glad that they caught Harris and his dad, its always tense trying to find people like that. Best of luck to you IS, it wasn't your fault.

Javva the Hutt
09-15-2003, 09:51 AM
You and his family has my deepest sympathies. Life's not f***ed up, the world is!

Homuncul
09-15-2003, 10:44 AM
I'm really sorry man. It's terrible to lose friends like that. I'd kill those murderers if I could. Something's very very wrong with this world. I'm not the one for optimistic wishes but I wish you be strong.

vegietto
09-15-2003, 12:45 PM
man that is a shame i feel sorry for u man i hope u our ok u our in my prayers

El Sitherino
09-15-2003, 01:25 PM
Today is Daniel funeral, yesterday we went to the viewing, it just didn't look like Daniel. :(
We're still trying to find the person who actually commited the murder.
Apparently Harris told police Daniel commited suicide which couldn't be, first of all he was a happy kid, second he was shot in the back of the head, in a place it'd be impossible to reach.

RpTheHotrod
09-15-2003, 05:17 PM
Wow, I live very close to there too. I'm really sorry, man. :( You're in my prayers for sure.

El Sitherino
09-18-2003, 05:58 AM
Well, we buried Daniel on Monday.
I'm still having a hard time coping with this. I've restarted taking therapy and psychiatric help. I don't know what to do really. I'm just so pissed off about the whole thing. Part of me keeps trying to put blame on someone so that I can just beat the crap out of them, but I know they aren't responsible.
It's 1:41 A.M. I can't sleep, they took me off some meds that helped me sleep and now that I'm off them I can't sleep because I keep having these horrible visions of what was done to Daniel before he died, it's just not right that he was tortured before dying of shock. :( after he was shot in the back of the head and stomach he was beaten again for about 5 minutes(according to studies of the bruises) he didn't die for about an hour later while bleeding in the back of the head and from the stomach. Had he been found while still alive he most likely would have either been paralyzed or mentally challenged :(.
I keep wishing it was me instead, I do this because Daniel had a great life going for him, he was succeeding in school, made lots of friends, he cared about everyone as though he had known them all his life.
Me on the other hand, I'm not doing great in school, I have mental disorders out the ass, I'm so medicated to keep from going homocidal that I'm practically stoned all day, I don't have many friends, I hate going outside alot unless I'm with friends, I have nothing to do with my time but sit infront of the computer or TV, the medication I take makes me so tired when I stand up I feel as though I'm going to collapse and never get up, I'm angered easily, I'm not a very attractive person so relationships are rather hard to come by, I despise myself, I can't stand the way I have a million thoughts going on in my head and no way to organize or control them, my parents are divorced, most people in my life are doomed to die slow painful deaths, my dogs that I loved and bonded with have both run away and died, my cat was slaughtered by some b*tch ass jerks, I can't get a job, I have no way of getting money unless I partake in illegal activities(selling porn, pills, etc.), I'm the most apathetic person you will ever meet ( if anyone was more apathetic than me they'd be dead from starvation, due to not caring enough to feed themselves), I have some sort of sweat problem where I sweat feverishly for no reason, I often blush for no reason, I'm prone to alcoholism and diabetes, I have a high chance of having a heart attack by the time I'm thirty no matter how fit or healthy I am, I have a hard time doing anything when people are watching me do the task (especially sex for the first time with the girlfriend, different times different girls) :( I'm embarrased easy, I'm rather shy unless I feel strongly about something I feel needs to be said, I love having cats in my house even though I'm slightly allergic to them (they make me sneeze), I always feel as though I'm alone even when my girlfriend is sitting next to me.
:(

because of that I feel it should have been me instead of Daniel.

Crow_Nest
09-18-2003, 11:15 AM
I'm sorry about your friend.....:(

Lord Blackadder
09-18-2003, 11:36 AM
My sympathies mate, I'm not a religous man but if there is an afterlife then I'm sure your friend is there doing all the stuff that made him happy in the living world.

Life is full of decisions, don't beat yourself up over things that may or may not have been different if you'd done something else. Sometimes things just happen, hind-sight is a wonderful curse but life is an experience - I'm sure your friend wouldn't want you to feel it was in anyway you fault, you shouldn't either.

The ONLY person/people to blame are the scum that pulled the trigger.