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lllKyNeSlll
09-21-2003, 10:51 PM
This is a great game but what would satisfy alot more players and gain more money for raven would be to have the jk2 kick as an option in the game similar to the weapon enable option and force enable option.

Also for the tenloss, it would be much easier to snipe if one could do it and instantly start moving again such as in single player and jk2 multiplayer. The fact that you have to wait like almost one second really makes it hard to do closer sniping. The built in movment while in scope mode is be less useful than the ability to snipe and unscope fast.

Tarus
09-21-2003, 10:52 PM
I would not mind kick, however, it should not do damage!

In jedi outcast the kick did mor edamage then a saber slash!!

Imperial_thug
09-21-2003, 11:00 PM
If kick was ever put in, it should draw heavily from force power or something. That way it would'nt be spammed to death.

Darth Talliusc
09-21-2003, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by lllKyNeSlll
This is a great game but what would satisfy alot more players and gain more money for raven would be to have the jk2 kick as an option in the game similar to the weapon enable option and force enable option.

Also for the tenloss, it would be much easier to snipe if one could do it and instantly start moving again such as in single player and jk2 multiplayer. The fact that you have to wait like almost one second really makes it hard to do closer sniping. The built in movment while in scope mode is be less useful than the ability to snipe and unscope fast.

while i agree with your position of the tenloss. i cannot help but laugh when you say that having a kick function would give raven more money. sorry but i really doubt someones gonna see this game and not buy it simply because a single move they like isnt involved.

if the community wants it badly enough then somebody will put in an mp mod for it soon enough. have patience and enjoy the happier parts of the game....................... like executing chewbacca over and over....

lllKyNeSlll
09-21-2003, 11:05 PM
Well the thing is the only way to kill in a full force duel is to grip hide and lunge or to keep someone down by timed kicks. So for the ffa fans they could just keep kick off. And in duels have a complete jk2 kick. Because twl ladders are about to start and it will probably be shut down for ff duels after they find out that no one can win matches in the top 10.

For those of you who played jk1, jk3 without kick is similar to a jk1 ff with someone starting with unlimited bacta and repeatedly tapping it. A never ending match. The tapper can get negged and damaged by destruct but the other guy will never truly get a point unless by a lucky destruct (aka dfa in jk3)

If there is no kick I will still play guns and be a top player regardless. But I'm just saying that kick should be customized since its so controversial. An option for 3 levels of damage or complete gone 20, 10, 0, off.

the weiner dog!
09-21-2003, 11:08 PM
Putting kicks in JA the same as they were (physics and damage) in JK2 will cause kick spamming?

Nope.

Why?

Do this as well:

-saber damage scale 2 across the board as default for saber only game types.

It's lethal and a solid well timed hit is going to cause massive damage or kill, but it's not so insanely powerful that people can just mash buttons and flail around hoping to get lucky.

-remove the force cost for basic specials (yet another reason to use a saber).

-remove the line of sight restriction on grip (yet more options for the player).

It’s a win-win situation.

Saber people who hate “kick spammers” now have a very deadly weapon in their hands and no restrictions to hinder them like the 25 force cost for basic moves like a light stance lunge.

Players who play competitively in games like saber only CTF can now actually kill the skilled flag carriers with kick+pit deaths rather than standing down by the flag base spamming Kata’s hoping the capper who is up un a ledge 100 feet above them laughing at them will come down and walk into one out of boredom.


win-win people.

lllKyNeSlll
09-21-2003, 11:10 PM
true to that

Mordred
09-22-2003, 01:04 AM
as i posted some wher else, this is a issue with the balence between saber damage and force heals/drains?

not an issiue with no kick??

the kick does not really need to go back, and even if it did, it would probably become a kicking duel as before it was more effective than the saber.

they just need to balence saber damage and heals, ethier put saber damage up alot, bring heals down alot, or go for a little on each

Spider AL
09-22-2003, 01:11 AM
Find another way, gentlemen. Frankly there's been enough mourning over one move that doesn't happen to be present in JA, but was in JO.

noide
09-22-2003, 01:52 AM
al you need to stfu
gg

cheeto101
09-22-2003, 02:01 AM
alrighty add the kick in, But dont make it that stupid flip kick thingy, make it a standing kick or somethin like that, or maybe even an elbow or somethin. I always hated the flip kick animation, who the hell kicks like that??? Kyle dont look like no Jet Li to me.

Pyro
09-22-2003, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by Spider AL
Find another way, gentlemen. Frankly there's been enough mourning over one move that doesn't happen to be present in JA, but was in JO.
FIND ANOTHER FORUM GENTEL MAN FRANKLY THERES BEEN ENUF OF UR UNIFORMED POSTS ON A TOPIC U HAVE 0 KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OKAY LITSEN U EWOK MOLESTSER UNLESS RAVEN PUTS KICK *OR* SOMETHING T O BALANCE OUT THE OFFEDSNVIVE CAPABILITIES TO ACOUNT FOR WHAT WAS TAKEN OUT (AND NO UBER KEWL KATA AND SPIERMAN WALL JUMP DO NOT COUNT) THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS: NO WAY TO WIN FF DUEL DUE TO BOTH PLAYER HOLDING DOWN DRAIN LIKE THEIR LIFE DEPEND ON IT, NO WAY TO KILL CAPPER BEFCAUSE YOU CANT STOP HIM, TFFA THAT IS JUST LIGHTNING SPAM FEST BCESUSE NO COMBOS OR LINEOFSIGHTGRIP... WHICH MEANS DEATH OF *ALL* FFA SABERS NPOT JUST CTF WITH EXCCEPTION OF FAGTS RUNING AROUND FFA_BESPIN_2 CUMMING OVER THEIR 1BILION NEW SKINS NOW I DONT KNOW HO W MUCH RAVEN + COALITION OF IMPERIAL HOBJOBBERS PAID YOU TO MAKE THESE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT UNIFROMATIVE POSTS BUT I ADVICE U TO STOP NOW B4 I REV UP MY AT-ST, COME TO UR DOORSTOP, AND RAM THE INTEREGOTAION DROID IN YOUR

fk | screed
09-22-2003, 02:06 AM
al you need to stfu

Also, pyro.......learn to spell.

cheeto101
09-22-2003, 02:08 AM
wow, personally, i think you need to relax, and lay off the caps lock, it just aint healthy;) . But seriously, everyone in this thread is chill, (unlike all the rest of the threads) so just relax. Its a game, not the end of the world.
And i would comment on what you said, but unfortunalty, due to the caps, the lack of spacing and lack of proper punctuation i cant understand a thing you said.

But seriously, on the whole kick thing, who the heck does a full flip off a person???? Throw in some sweet darth maul kick, or kyle elbow to the head. Or maybe even a little grapple?? I dunno, just some ideas.

the weiner dog!
09-22-2003, 02:09 AM
lol ewok molester...

wait I used to know a guy who posted here with a name like that.

:eek:

pyro is joking guys, he's just playing around with the caps lock rants, so ignore it and try to stay on topic.

fk | screed
09-22-2003, 02:10 AM
Grapple? What is this, a WWF wrestling console game?

cheeto101
09-22-2003, 02:12 AM
hahaha, maayybbeeeee ;) . Goldberg with a lightsaber.... Boooyah

No i meant, like a little animation or somethin where the player smacks the guy to the side.

noide
09-22-2003, 02:15 AM
i was watching a movie today where goldberg got set on fire, shot with a machine gun and got run over with a truck and still got up and kicked some ass.

cheeto101
09-22-2003, 02:17 AM
of course, he's using force protection(that aint sweat thats reflectin the light off his body).

Hmm another thing, anyone else find the staff saber kicks abit slow to be useful?? Or is that just me not practicin enough?

Mordred
09-22-2003, 02:18 AM
lol now theres a idea, put in the DebugMelee 1 grabs, then u can grab the FC as he trying to run past, thought they looked pretty cool too :)

noide
09-22-2003, 02:19 AM
staff kick is retarded.
you look retarded when you do it.
it never hits.
you cant move when you do it and you cant even pull/push with it. its useless

the weiner dog!
09-22-2003, 02:44 AM
Originally posted by noide
staff kick is retarded.
you look retarded when you do it.
it never hits.
you cant move when you do it and you cant even pull/push with it. its useless

I did find one use for it:

I kicked some guy in the face with one today while he was in that bow animation.

kind of funny actually.

noide
09-22-2003, 02:45 AM
lmao.

Rumor
09-22-2003, 02:48 AM
haha i think i'm gonna **** myself, wiener!

cheeto101
09-22-2003, 02:55 AM
so..... theres absolutely no use for it like i though??? Another thing that could be fixed??? Perphaps? If its only function is to kick bowin people, maybe it should be aimed lower??? A kick in the nuts is worth two in the head anyday ;)

Pyro
09-22-2003, 02:55 AM
How to Catch a Flag Carrier
You and a team mate find a nice spot
Saber lock
One of you falls down
Just as this happens, the enemy flag carrier should be coming by
And then BAM! you nail him with the ground kick!

Now you stupid CTF'ers have nothing to complain about, I've just given you one MORE effective move (in addition to increasing saber damage and grip-throw, that is)

[div3rse.syn]
09-22-2003, 03:02 AM
lmao @ pyro.

You know what we could do? We could implement an honor system. ****, that's an awesome idea. We could implement an honor system where when you got the flag, you had to find each and every member of the other team and turn off your saber and bow to them. Once you did that, you have to hold walk down and slowly make it to your base. If you get back to your base, then you turn your saber off and wait 15 minutes. If nobody has killed you by then, THEN you're allowed to cap.

Pyro
09-22-2003, 03:19 AM
Please, let's keep this thread serious... everyone knows CTF'ers have no honor and are just lame kick newbies. I'm trying to work with you here, but let it be known that I despise lame directional kick.

Jeff 42
09-22-2003, 03:27 AM
Originally posted by lllKyNeSlll
Also for the tenloss, it would be much easier to snipe if one could do it and instantly start moving again such as in single player and jk2 multiplayer. The fact that you have to wait like almost one second really makes it hard to do closer sniping. The built in movment while in scope mode is be less useful than the ability to snipe and unscope fast.

I agree 100%. The Tenloss is my favorite weapon in JK2, but as it is now in JA it's really annoying. This change is quite simply retarded. Did anyone complain that the Tenloss was too powerful before? What was Raven thinking when they did this? I just don't understand... :confused: :(

fk | screed
09-22-2003, 03:34 AM
Originally posted by the weiner dog!
I did find one use for it:

I kicked some guy in the face with one today while he was in that bow animation.

kind of funny actually.


ROFLMAO, I wish I was there to see that. Let me guess, after you did that he said, "You have no honor!" or some bs like that.

[div3rse.syn]
09-22-2003, 03:44 AM
lmao@pyro

post about the sniper thing in guns...I'm sure it's a valid complaint, but we're trying to discuss FF S/O CTF here and it's hard enough with people trying to flame >_<