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Troopr-Undr-Fir
10-10-2003, 02:49 PM
I was wondering, in the last couple of levels
[SPOILER](after you finally choose which side you want to be on) Why do you have to fight both light and dark side??? I was hoping to beat my peers asses alside my fellow baddies. Yes I know you want the sceptor for yourself, but you could still make them fight aloside you. :eek: does this truly mean the dark side is stronger than the light :eek: :eek: :eek: !!!!![\SPOILER]

any suggestions why this is the way is, would be greatly appriciated...

JediLurker
10-10-2003, 04:20 PM
Yeah, as far as I'm concerned, that specific area is where JA falls short the most. They could have done a lot with the dark side, but..well..didn't. It would have been nice to follow the classic route. Defeat Alora and take her place as Tavion's apprentice. Even if it is for just one level before you get greedy and make a play for the scepter.

Troopr-Undr-Fir
10-11-2003, 01:42 AM
yeah, well said, i wish i could make that much sense once in a while :(

StormHammer
10-11-2003, 01:54 AM
Well, I have to say I was expecting the cultists to fight with me when I turned Dark Side, so I was surprised when they started to attack. From then on, I allowed the Cultists and Jedi to duke it out among themselves - and frying them all with lightning at opportune moments so that I didn't have as many to fight.

Anyway, I agree that it would have made more sense for the cultists to join you and fight with you against the Jedi.

Troopr-Undr-Fir
10-11-2003, 02:06 AM
Well, I have to say I was expecting the cultists to fight with me when I turned Dark Side, so I was surprised when they started to attack. From then on, I allowed the Cultists and Jedi to duke it out among themselves - and frying them all with lightning at opportune moments so that I didn't have as many to fight.

[Chris Rock]That ain't Right![/Chris Rock]

seriously Storm u have no HONERZ u n00b, lol :rolleyes: , anyways i just didn't like how the dark side was harder (yes, i died many a times as u can tell)

oh and Storm, did you eat some popcorn while they were fighting, cause when i was hiding in the corner (the first big chamber with 3 jedi and 5 cultist) i was eating some goobers :)

just wondrin

StormHammer
10-11-2003, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by Troopr-Undr-Fir
seriously Storm u have no HONERZ u n00b, lol :rolleyes:

Hehe. lol :p

..anyways i just didn't like how the dark side was harder (yes, i died many a times as u can tell)

Well, to be fair, up until the last couple of levels, playing the Dark Side through the rest of the game made it a walk in the park. I found it very easy to get through all the levels up to that point, so I guess the last couple of levels compensated a little.

Yes, it was hard, and yes, I died quite a few times. Strangely enough, it was in the chambers just before the lava chamber, fighting the Jedi 3 v 1. That was tough - until I used my head an lured them to the lava chamber, and simply pushed them in.

I mean, you can't get more Dark Side than that. >:D

Burn, baby, burn. ;)

oh and Storm, did you eat some popcorn while they were fighting

Nope. Too busy looking for my chance to pounce. ;)

Troopr-Undr-Fir
10-11-2003, 02:20 AM
fighting the Jedi 3 v 1. That was tough - until I used my head an lured them to the lava chamber, and simply pushed them in.

or be even more darksidish, and grip them toss them into the wall and watch them fall in the lava :D . and also i noticed that level 3 lightning pushes them as well as makes them twitch with electricity :D, fun to watch i might add

Remirol Nacnud
10-12-2003, 11:42 AM
It's gotta be the dark side.
On the light side you want to keep the jedi alive, but they're always getting in your way.

With the dark side......nothing holds you back. :)

Pedro The Hutt
10-12-2003, 03:25 PM
Well, I think it makes sense, nobody informed the cultists that you "joined" their side. (but ofcourse, I haven't opted for the dark side yet.)

Kidso
10-12-2003, 05:14 PM
Did anyone try the playerteam enemy cheat at the last lvl? maybe it will allow you to fight along side the reborn.

Tsaya
10-12-2003, 08:31 PM
What makes you believe there is a dark "side" as in "the dark team? Dark jedi are selfish and arrogant. Those reborn follow Tavion, not you. Why should they change sides? After all they know what they are going to get when Tavion succeeds (well, maybe not but they know what they were promised :D ).
There is no reason for them to help you - your still their enemy, doesn't matter if you are the nice guy or not, they don't want you around either way.

JediLurker
10-12-2003, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Tsaya
What makes you believe there is a dark "side" as in "the dark team? Dark jedi are selfish and arrogant. Those reborn follow Tavion, not you. Why should they change sides? After all they know what they are going to get when Tavion succeeds (well, maybe not but they know what they were promised :D ).
There is no reason for them to help you - your still their enemy, doesn't matter if you are the nice guy or not, they don't want you around either way.

Very true as it stands now, but in general it should have been different in my opinion. Basically, you should have actually joined the cultists\Tavion for a brief period of time and then go after the scepter.

It's more or less the dark side way. They are selfish and arrogant as you point out, but they also know when to act otherwise. Look at Vader. He was bowing and scraping to Palpatine all the while entertaining notions of overthrowing him. Sure, they could have just slugged it out, but Vader would have been on the losing end of that particular fight, so he fell in line to wait for the right time.

Something similar, though perhaps not exact, would have made for a much better gaming experience in my opinion. As it is, the only differences between light and dark are the end bosses and cutscenes, along with having no allies in the final level. When it comes time to make the decision to go light or dark, I frankly don't really care one way or the other because it doesn't matter much which route you go. And that's something that just shouldn't happen in games. Unfortunately, it does happen in more and more new games.

Remirol Nacnud
10-13-2003, 06:02 PM
I agree.
The decision to go light/dark should have been much earlier in the game.
There may also have been an opportunity to turn back from side to side. People like Katarn start fighting you and say that it's not too late to turn back, but you don't have a choice!-+