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DarthMuffin
10-21-2003, 11:47 PM
... on The Zone.

Being in a "must play star wars game" period, I decided to check out what was the situation on the zone... and I must say it surprised me...

Of the 38 available games, 2 of them were RMs... All the other ones were just some pointless scenarios I never heard about...

Why do I created this topic?

Simple. The next SW RTS needs to have it's own multiplayer provider. Something like JK2 (JA)'s server stuff (which I never completly understood) or, even better, something like battle.net is clearly a must.

We don't want to see our new SW RTS die because of those d@mned scenarios! Ok, I liked to play those like Life in the big City when I had completly nothing to do, but these are SP.

P.S.: I know this stuff was partially debated I while ago, but since we have *nothing* to talk about right now, I decided to bring it back.

Admiral Vostok
10-22-2003, 01:00 AM
Well I've always believed (contrary to what some forumites say) that the Zone sucks.

Seriously though, I think it would probably be beneficial for LucasArts to create their own multiplayer hosting site. They've recently brought out several great multiplayer games (I'm not including the MMORPGs, which require servers far beyond what LucasArts can provide), and having their own hosting site might be a worthwhile investment. Of course, with the stir-ups going on in their staff, who knows what may be on the horizon for LucasArts...

saberhagen
10-22-2003, 10:43 AM
It's not always THAT bad. There's usually more than 2 RM games in progress when I'm on. A problem I find is that although there are often quite a few RM games going on, the range of abilities is quite wide, so it can sometimes be difficult to find game with people who are about the same level as me. I can usually get at least one game a night though, even if it means waiting a while.

swphreak
10-22-2003, 10:50 AM
Solution: Direct IP with friends or forumers (if you can drag some forumers from their "lives").

DarthMuffin
10-22-2003, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by StarWarsPhreak
Solution: Direct IP with friends or forumers (if you can drag some forumers from their "lives").

That's exactly what I do :) (even modem sometimes :rolleyes: )

Like Vostok said, they could host all of their games there (much like b.net). That would be great. I never really liked the zone also (I played there for the first time after a friend of mine persuaded me to play rogue spear there) ...

Perhaps we could also have the new "anonymous matchmaking" stuff, as in WC and AoM.

Sithmaster_821
10-22-2003, 09:35 PM
The Zone sucks, but it sucks even more with this game cause MS hates us, and wishes to ruin the game.

Compa_Mighty
10-23-2003, 03:00 AM
I don't play very often, but when I do play, I play IP.

Although I agree Lucasarts should have its own multiplayer server, but that will com ewith time, don't worry, it took ES 4 games (2 plus x-packs) to get theirs, LA will do it at some point.

Admiral Vostok
10-23-2003, 03:57 AM
Personally I think direct IP is by far the best way to go... unless you have no friends to play with :( If that was the case then I might resort to the Zone.

lukeiamyourdad
10-23-2003, 09:59 PM
Having their own servers means nothing. It won't stop people from ruining other's fun. I play often on B.net and there's just as much a-holes as on the Zone or with Gamespy.

Admiral Vostok
10-23-2003, 10:46 PM
Oh I know that. There will always be a large amount of a-holes amongst the gaming community. But at least with their own servers they won't be as lacking in support as the Zone is.

lukeiamyourdad
10-23-2003, 11:02 PM
I guess...

but it's gonna cost them a lot more money. B.Net exists due to the popularity of Blizzard's games and so does AoM's.

If they don't think they can get enough people, don't expect something as heavily supported as B.Net and ESO.

DarthMuffin
10-23-2003, 11:19 PM
Also, the whole AM stuff makes the people play more "normal games" than scenarios. It would help for sure.

It's nearly impossible to give more support than b.net does, but at least all of the "SW RTS 2" players would play at the same place. Right now, we have about a hundred peeps on the zone and fifty on gamespy, and considering that the game is dead (and that it used an outdated engine right at the start) we could easily have at least a thousand peeps playing at the same place (more games to join!) *if* LA comes out with something worthy this time (I do like SWGB, but it didn't do crap on the sales).

However, I doubt LA will find the money/time/employees needed to have this to work...

Off Topic : speaking about LA, does anybody knows anything about their new shooter announced at E3 (Republic Commando, IIRC). I never heard of it since then.

DarthMaulUK
10-24-2003, 08:26 AM
Its been an ongoing problem with lack of RM games. I even got Garry Gaber to post on this forum about the problems and asked the community to play in the correct rooms.

It was mentioned that the next game probably wouldn't be hosted on the MSN ZONE (alot of bad politics it seemed with each side blaming each other) and with the new SWG servers up, this does make it possible....maybe

DMUK

Admiral Vostok
10-24-2003, 10:10 AM
I was under the impression that the SWG servers were run by a third party...?

DarthMuffin
10-24-2003, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by DarthMaulUK
Its been an ongoing problem with lack of RM games. I even got Garry Gaber to post on this forum about the problems and asked the community to play in the correct rooms.

The problem is (was) that most zone players don't read these boards. Many peeps just buy a game and play it; they don't always seek forums for questions/strategies.

lukeiamyourdad
10-25-2003, 02:59 AM
50 on gamespy? I've been there once. 14 not more.


Nevertheless, the Zone icon appears on the Menu so people went there the most often. even though it sucked...

Hey did AoK encountered the same problems on the Zone?

saberhagen
10-25-2003, 10:24 AM
AoK/Conquerors is still huge on the zone. There's often 2-3000 people on at a time. I don't have them myself, so I don't know what things are like in the rooms, but I've heard RM is pretty strong and standards are generally higher than in GB/CC. I think the fact there are, or at least have been, cash tournaments is a big factor. A lot of the best GB players used to play AoK.

Sithmaster_821
10-27-2003, 01:08 AM
Also accounting for AoK's high numbers is that many people just go there to chat, or hang out, or leave the rooms on whenever they are on the computer.