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JA_General
10-22-2003, 10:15 AM
I only have JA cause i was to late when i wasing going to buy it so i waited on the new one Jedi Academy.
also people say JO is boring. always kyle here kyle there.

Astrotoy7
10-22-2003, 10:32 AM
Although I will give my vote to JA, it has to be realised that JO and JA are diffrerent in fundamental ways.

JA has more of an emphasis on action, with less puzzle solving etc which was a part of JO. JA has many more locations, but in comparison it can be said that the exploration of levels in JO was more thorough. Still, I'd prefer to see 6 different locations than 6 levels of one location. The JK games are not an RPG so I'd rather enjoy different locations, different enemies and great new moves, ie. JA !!!

But I'm sure there will be many JO fans too ! They're both great as far as I was concerned, but I just find JA more fun, and it has far more replayability.

MTFBWYA

Sam Fisher
10-22-2003, 11:00 AM
Can't get JA if you don't have JO! Well, that's for you to decide, but if you want to, I reccommend JO. Its very fun and now there is a lot of mods and maps.

CaptainJackZ
10-22-2003, 12:14 PM
JA Single Player was good bu not long enough.
JK2 Single Player was good too, and plenty long enough.
JA multiplayer is pure crap (aside from siege)
JK2 multiplayer was excellent 1.03, 1.04, I liked both.

JA is too nerfed in multi

Kurgan
10-22-2003, 12:29 PM
Nerfed! Try the console... JK2 1.04 was "nerfed" as well unless you entered certain commands.

JK2 is worth it for the SP campaign and the few game modes it has that JA currently lacks (Jedi Master, CTY, Holocron FFA).

Yes, JK2 has many more mods, but the best ones are either already playable in JA (or not necessary due to JA features) or in the process of being ported over, often with improvements.

However, despite a few bugs that will be corrected in the patch, I feel JA meets or exceeds the standards of JK2.

Sivy
10-22-2003, 12:42 PM
JA is more fun- great new movies, custom character, cool locations, taun-tauns & swoop bikes, plus many other fun features.

Master William
10-22-2003, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Kurgan
JK2 is worth it for the SP campaign and the few game modes it has that JA currently lacks (Jedi Master, CTY, Holocron FFA).


Those game modes totally suck. I know you like them, but face it, they simply aren't that good. I never saw any CTY/Holocron FFA/Jedi Master servers anywhere in JK2.

Amidala from Chop Shop
10-22-2003, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by Master William
Those game modes totally suck. I know you like them, but face it, they simply aren't that good. I never saw any CTY/Holocron FFA/Jedi Master servers anywhere in JK2.

If you didn't find any servers to play them on, how do you know they "totally suck"?

Yes, not everybody likes them (usually because they "totally suck" at them), but there are a lot of people who do like them. If you've never played Holocron FFA, CTY, or Jedimaster with 10-20 other people, try my JKII:JO server Chop Shop INCREASED SABER DAMAGE FFA-CTF at 64.246.58.228. It has all of those gametypes. There are 3 Holocron FFA maps, 2 Jedimaster maps, and 1 Capture the Ysalamiri map in the 21-map rotation. Holocron FFA in particular is really fun, for some people it's now their favorite and they are asking me for more Holocron maps.

I'll give you a hint: use Create Game to make your own Holocron game using the ffa_ns_streets and ctf_bespin maps. Run around the maps by yourself and find all the holocron spawn points, so you know where they are. Then when you play the real thing online, you'll know where to go to get your favorite force powers.

Another hint: only the players with the Saber Defense holocron can block gunshots, so guns are very effective in Holocron.

Prime
10-22-2003, 02:04 PM
Well, I've just started playing the JO SP levels in JA, and I loved JA already, so I'd say Academy is what I enjoy the most. Nothing like using katas on Kejim :) There are some quirks, but it works pretty well.

For the most part, just about every model, skin, and map that works with JO works with JA as well. To me, this gives a big advantage to JA. And the fact that the admin mods don't work in JA makes me all the more happy. :) And for the most part I've enjoyed JA MP just as much as JO MP.

I guess in the end I feel JA has most of the good things of JO along with some fun new stuff.

Jeff 42
10-22-2003, 02:53 PM
JO is easily superior, mainly due to the annoying lack of hitboxes and the retarded disruptor nerfing in JA MP. JO also has better FFA/TDM maps (ffa_yavin, ffa_bespin) than anything in JA. JA is still pretty good for CTF, at least. For SP, I haven't finished JA yet--it's fun, but there's no sense of urgency to keep playing because the story is so weak. JO didn't have a great story, but it did keep my interest a lot better because Kyle Katarn is a great character.

Master William
10-22-2003, 03:00 PM
I did play the removed gamemodes, Amidala (created a game), and it wasn't that fun. I actually thought CTY was the least worse of them, since it is like CTF, but requires more teammwork (protecting the flag carrier)

kmd
10-22-2003, 03:29 PM
although jk is best out of all of them, i say ja is most fun.

staff/ dual sabers
swoops and taun taunts
biggger levels, outdoors too!!!!!!!!!!
better enemys
cool locations, hoth!!!! vaders castle and so on
charictor creation
better modding capabilitys/twin guns, big levels, better graphics


just about every thing in ja i liked better than jo, only thing i can think of that jo has over ja, is story, way better story

txa1265
10-22-2003, 04:18 PM
I really liked Jedi Master and Holo FFA. They were all action, no bowing.

I miss them, but havn't fired up JKII because of it ... my few MP hours for JA have been happily spent on Power Duel and Siege - very cool new modes.

Mike

Amidala from Chop Shop
10-22-2003, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Master William
I did play the removed gamemodes, Amidala (created a game),

So I just want to make sure I understand you, you played those game types by "Create Game" and played against bots? If that is the case, I invite you to play against real people on my server, if you are interested that is. If not, that's fine. But I don't think you can really judge how much fun a game type is until you play against real people (and lots of them) instead of bots. There are several regulars on my server who never played those games or only played against bots. Now that they've experienced the real thing they come to the server mainly to play Holocron or one of the other types.

SpaceButler13
10-22-2003, 04:53 PM
I miss Jedi Master a bit, but when I go back to JK2 and duel with my friend who hasn't gotten JA yet, I must say I like JA better. Issues or no, thee's much more variety and there's an intangible sense of fun in it that I don't feel in the previous.

SpecialForces
10-22-2003, 05:39 PM
Chop Shop is my favorite server....
good balence of game types and alot of the times near full....
OH NO now it will be full:D :D :D :D :D