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Toxie
10-25-2003, 02:54 AM
Even those there's a few force powers you can use, wouldn't it be cool if you could do what Obi Wan did and deflect the lightning with your saber. Maybe you someone would come at you with lightning and then you would tap a key and he would raise his saber up, maybe even absorb some of his own force energy if you're running low, that's what it looked like Obi did. It doesn't seem like it would be too hard to add this in an upcoming patch. I wish we could see more stuff from the movies in the game, and vice versa. Some of the moves, like lunge slash and kata would look cool as hell in the movies. What do you guys think about having something like this, would it add more balance, or take away more?

g//plaZma
10-25-2003, 03:11 AM
No. This is why we have drain/absorb/the directional keys. It'll take away more than give. Countering lightning is already very easy.

Rad Blackrose
10-25-2003, 04:34 AM
It's called managing force powers and your force %.

Try it some time.

Neverhoodian
10-25-2003, 05:30 AM
Well, in SP your character blocks some of the lightning with his/her saber. You take less damage as a result. You can't block it completely, though. (probably because Jaden's been a Jedi for a far shorter time than Obi-Wan.)

Toxie
10-25-2003, 05:36 AM
Originally posted by Rad Blackrose
It's called managing force powers and your force %.

Try it some time.

No need to be a smartass, I never said I didn't know how to use force counters. I just think this would be something cool to see, if you don't like the idea fine, but don't make assumptions like that.

Luc Solar
10-25-2003, 07:02 AM
Imho Obi blocking lightning with his saber was a silly idea. We should forget it ever happened in the movies.

:mad:

idontlikegeorge
10-25-2003, 09:04 AM
Um, I thought in Jedi Academy you did block substantial amounts of Force lightning with your lightsaber.

Or is it not so in MP?

Rad Blackrose
10-25-2003, 09:18 AM
Haven't exactly tested it...

Then again, I wonder if the use of both hands in lightning also has an impact on the blocking aspect, negating it?

JediLurker
10-25-2003, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by Luc Solar
Imho Obi blocking lightning with his saber was a silly idea. We should forget it ever happened in the movies.

:mad:

My sentiments exactly.

Toxie
10-25-2003, 11:42 AM
No way, that saber absorb thing in the movie was bad ass. People bitch about everything in the prequels anyway. It looked cool when Obi did that, the way he looked when he did it, you could tell he had encountered stuff like that a million times and he knew exactly how to counter it. Dooku looked pissed off when Obi blocked that. If anything, the prequels need more little details like that added to the films.

Alegis
10-25-2003, 11:53 AM
yeah i liked that part as well..the force holds many secrets and it demonstrates the wisdom of good ol obi wan

Sam Fisher
10-25-2003, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by idontlikegeorge
Um, I thought in Jedi Academy you did block substantial amounts of Force lightning with your lightsaber.

Or is it not so in MP?


In MP, not, you can't block it without Absorb.

JediLurker
10-25-2003, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by Toxie
No way, that saber absorb thing in the movie was bad ass. People bitch about everything in the prequels anyway. It looked cool when Obi did that, the way he looked when he did it, you could tell he had encountered stuff like that a million times and he knew exactly how to counter it. Dooku looked pissed off when Obi blocked that. If anything, the prequels need more little details like that added to the films.

Given that the only dark jedi\sith Obi encountered before was Maul, I don't think he's had too much lightning thrown at him, let alone 'a million times'.

Why not just start blocking force chokes and pushes with the saber? Because it's a dumb idea, that's why. And so is the lightning in my opinion.

For a mod, sure. Whatever floats your boat. I wouldn't have to download it. For a patch? No.

Toxie
10-25-2003, 12:48 PM
What? I'm sure Obi has encountered all kinds of dark jedi on his many quests throughout the galaxy. That's just in the games anyway, there's no saying for sure light good jedi can't use lightning and grip. Regardless of what you say, it was in the movie and Obi did know how to counter it so he had to have encountered these kinds of attacks pretty often outside of what happens in the films.

ManaMana
10-25-2003, 01:02 PM
Whum... If we should choose to make this mod, wouldn't the game be VERY unbalanced?

Luc Solar
10-25-2003, 01:03 PM
I think blocking lightning is a stupid idea because:

Only 2 sith have ever used lightning: the emperor himself and Dooku. Lightning is the king-of-all-forcepowers.

Every little Jedi has a lightsaber. If lightning really can be absorbed simply by flicking on your saber, then lightning becomes an useless noob power.

Dunno why Anakin got hit.. he had his saber out too. And dunno why Obi didn't tell Anakin that he could block it by holding the saber infront of him. Dunno why no-one told Luke about that. Dunno why the emperor didn't know about it when he started frying Luke. Dunno why Dooku didn't tell the emperor that "dude, no use wasting your force on lightning cause the jedi's weapon will simply absorb it all".

What I'm trying to say is this:

1) The idea was not well thought-out. Sure - it looked cool and all but if you start to think about it, it's clearly a bad idea.

2) this is a game, not a movie. Implementing something like that to a MULTIPLAYER game is not a good idea. It let's you feel a little like teh Obi-1 but screws up game balance (if there is such a thing) making one power useless.

Comm539
10-25-2003, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Luc Solar
I think blocking lightning is a stupid idea because:

Every little Jedi has a lightsaber. If lightning really can be absorbed simply by flicking on your saber, then lightning becomes an useless noob power.


lolololol its not already a useless noob power?...

Anyway, maybe the devs could focus more on actually fixing saber damage scales, saber hit and saber defelection before they add extras. And they could find a way to fix s/o ctf too (cough...kick...cough).

Luc Solar
10-25-2003, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Comm539
lolololol its not already a useless noob power?...

I was referring to the movies. Imagine Palpatine spamming lightning on some padawan kid with a 1 ft training lightsaber causing 0 damage because the saber absorbs everything...

Then Palpatine is like "Oh for crying out loud!! Damn those lightsabers!! Now what am I supposed to do - Throw my walking stick at him!?"

ManaMana
10-25-2003, 05:46 PM
I think it's enough just showing his face...:p :D

Neverhoodian
10-25-2003, 07:01 PM
I didn't have a problem at all with Obi-Wan blocking lightning with his saber. I don't hear anyone complaining about Yoda blocking lightning with his hand. Both Anakin and Luke were blasted because they weren't prepared for it. (Anakin charging forward and Luke didn't even have his saber with him) It shows that the Light and Dark sides are balanced to each other, that one side doesn't have an advantage over the other.

Azymn
10-25-2003, 07:08 PM
I think it could be safely argued that the lightning blocking in Ep2 wasn't a skillless maneuver that occured simply from obi1 having a blade in front of him.

It seems simple to balance - just make them have lvl 3 saber defense, have the lightning attacker in their crosshair, and have it cost a small amount of force in order to block. Then not just anyone with a saber could run around blocking it, and it would actually require a little more skill on the side of the attacker to hit their target instead of spamming an area.

Tsaya
10-25-2003, 07:18 PM
Dunno why Anakin got hit.. he had his saber out too. And dunno why Obi didn't tell Anakin that he could block it by holding the saber infront of him.
Well, maybe Obi-Wan didn't know? Maybe it was just a reflex and he was just as surprised that it worked as Dooku was? Same story when someone holds his hands up in front of his face before crashing into a tree with his car: it won't save him but it's a reflex. Just this time it worked.

Besides, correct me if I am mistaken, but I do recall a scene - maybe from Eposide VI: RoTJ - where a lightsaber seems to deflect some of the emperors lightnings power. Has been a while since I saw that movie and I don't have a copy at home so I can't tell. Maybe Vaders saber? I am certain that I saw this happen before Episode II.

idontlikegeorge
10-25-2003, 08:49 PM
Actually, considering Anakin didn't block the lightning with his saber, yet Obi-Wan did, perhaps he had to use the Force to channel the lightning into his lightsaber?

So perhaps maybe Absorb was used in any case...

Because there is way more to the Force than what is overt; alot of it can not be seen, which is what gives it it's mystic aura and all.

JediLurker
10-25-2003, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Neverhoodian
I didn't have a problem at all with Obi-Wan blocking lightning with his saber. I don't hear anyone complaining about Yoda blocking lightning with his hand. Both Anakin and Luke were blasted because they weren't prepared for it. (Anakin charging forward and Luke didn't even have his saber with him) It shows that the Light and Dark sides are balanced to each other, that one side doesn't have an advantage over the other.

I still don't buy it. Yoda blocking with his hand actually does make more sense to me. Yoda absorbed or at least redirected the force energy. A lightsaber by itself should not be capable of blocking the force in any of its incarnations, including lightning. Suppose, however, that it could block lightning. Lightning is not a single beam of energy. It's not like a blaster shot that you block and be done with it. Even if it did hit the saber, Obi would still have been fried just to a lesser extent.


So perhaps maybe Absorb was used in any case...

A valid argument, but it seems to me if he were capable of that, he wouldn't have even needed the saber in front of him, ala Yoda. Suppose, then, that he redirected all the lightning to his saber. Then why'd he let Anakin get nailed when he can redirect it? Any way you cut it, it just doesn't work in my opinion.

It is just a movie in the end, but that just didn't sit well with me.

eniaC
10-25-2003, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by Toxie
No way, that saber absorb thing in the movie was bad ass. People bitch about everything in the prequels anyway. It looked cool when Obi did that, the way he looked when he did it, you could tell he had encountered stuff like that a million times and he knew exactly how to counter it. Dooku looked pissed off when Obi blocked that. If anything, the prequels need more little details like that added to the films.

*proceeds to get his a** kicked by Dooku, only to be saved by Yoda*
As we all know, the Emperor and Vader would be sipping Mai-Tai's on Mon Calamari or on Kessel gettin zooted on Glitterstim if it weren't for R2, the true hero.

Originally posted by Luc Solar
Dunno why Dooku didn't tell the emperor that "dude, no use wasting your force on lightning cause the jedi's weapon will simply absorb it all".


LMAO





:lsduel: :lightning



:joreth:wait til he gives up and throws his saber down



:ball: :lightning



:ben:-Run...Luke...Run




:ball: -Daddy, hes laming me



;)
eniaC

eniaC
10-25-2003, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by Toxie
No need to be a smartass, I never said I didn't know how to use force counters. I just think this would be something cool to see, if you don't like the idea fine, but don't make assumptions like that.

:violin:
I got flamed after my first few posts, think it's a tradition here.
Don't read to much into it, I did. The fact is these guys lighten the mood of the forum quite a bit, don't take it personal.
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Comm539
10-25-2003, 10:27 PM
oh man...well obi wan's alternate universe clone entered luke skywalkers long lost brother in Episode 4A the comic book series and got this huge sith to block all the lightening fwom teh entiwe galawxly and won teh world. You people are so pathetic. Its a game. Its not a major issue you either think its a good or bad idea, not quote some canon trash (because btw sabers should be one hit killers!!!1111oneonetwotwo)

eniaC
10-25-2003, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by Comm539
oh man...well obi wan's alternate universe clone entered luke skywalkers long lost brother in Episode 4A the comic book series and got this huge sith to block all the lightening fwom teh entiwe galawxly and won teh world. You people are so pathetic. Its a game. Its not a major issue you either think its a good or bad idea, not quote some canon trash (because btw sabers should be one hit killers!!!1111oneonetwotwo)

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Toxie
10-26-2003, 01:57 AM
What some of you guys are saying about Luke and Anakin is different, just because their saber happened to be out, that doesn't mean they're automatically protected from the lightning attack. What Obi did was an actual technique he learned over the years, you guys are only bringing up the movies, in the EU there's probably a ton of Jedi he encountered with lightning. I don't think that's something reserved for special jedi only, the emperor's lightning was just alot more powerful than any other jedi's. Sure you can debate about how powerful and what exactly the force powers are capable of, but exactly how much do we really know about the lightsaber? Other the little beams coming from crystals, how much do we really know about exactly what those beams are capable as far as interacting with other force properties?

Toxie
10-26-2003, 01:59 AM
What some of you guys are saying about Luke and Anakin is different, just because their saber happened to be out, that doesn't mean they're automatically protected from the lightning attack. What Obi did was an actual technique he learned over the years, you guys are only bringing up the movies, in the EU there's probably a ton of Jedi he encountered with lightning. I don't think that's something reserved for special jedi only, the emperor's lightning was just alot more powerful than any other jedi's. Sure you can debate about how powerful and what exactly the force powers are capable of, but exactly how much do we really know about the lightsaber? Other the little beams coming from crystals, how much do we really know about exactly what those beams are capable as far as interacting with other force properties?

Toxie
10-26-2003, 02:00 AM
What some of you guys are saying about Luke and Anakin is different, just because their saber happened to be out, that doesn't mean they're automatically protected from the lightning attack. What Obi did was an actual technique he learned over the years, you guys are only bringing up the movies, in the EU there's probably a ton of Jedi he encountered with lightning. I don't think that's something reserved for special jedi only, the emperor's lightning was just alot more powerful than any other jedi's. Sure you can debate about how powerful and what exactly the force powers are capable of, but exactly how much do we really know about the lightsaber? Other the little beams coming from crystals, how much do we really know about exactly what those beams are capable as far as interacting with other force properties?

MasterAristotle
10-26-2003, 02:50 AM
It seems simple to balance - just make them have lvl 3 saber defense, have the lightning attacker in their crosshair, and have it cost a small amount of force in order to block. Then not just anyone with a saber could run around blocking it, and it would actually require a little more skill on the side of the attacker to hit their target instead of spamming an area

FORCEMOD for JO did something like this I believe. Shouldn't be too hard to port.

Toxie
10-26-2003, 02:55 AM
I don't see how it could be that unbalanced anyway, when you're holding the button to block the lightning your enemy can still attack you with his saber and they still can get you from behind, it's not like it would totally stop lightning users completely.

eniaC
10-26-2003, 02:56 AM
Originally posted by Toxie
What some of you guys are saying about Luke and Anakin is different, just because their saber happened to be out, that doesn't mean they're automatically protected from the lightning attack. What Obi did was an actual technique he learned over the years, you guys are only bringing up the movies, in the EU there's probably a ton of Jedi he encountered with lightning. I don't think that's something reserved for special jedi only, the emperor's lightning was just alot more powerful than any other jedi's. Sure you can debate about how powerful and what exactly the force powers are capable of, but exactly how much do we really know about the lightsaber? Other the little beams coming from crystals, how much do we really know about exactly what those beams are capable as far as interacting with other force properties?

If your going to bring up the EU Luke got owned by Exar Kun's spirit with lightning and put him in a coma in the Jedi Academy trilogy by Kevin J Anderson, even after being brought near death by Palpatine, and Obi-wan just tosses his saber up to block it, oh well whatever, the fact is the SW EU is primarily based on the original trilogy's and ties in with them more than the prequels, we havn't even seen Ep.3 and I'm sure it will tie everything together better.

Besides there may tons of little Jedi running around with sabers, but I'm sure force lightning is the most powerful darkside power, or Palpatine would have used a saber.

And on the fact of Anakin not being able to block lightning, well I've heard rumors that Palpatine messes him up so bad with lightning thats how he gets the vader suit, JUST A RUMOR


I'm not trying to knock your idea Toxie, ideas are good, I just don't think it would be all that popular, when lightning wh*res are easy enough to beat already(besides prob. the majority of people playing use lightning). If you can find those to create, host, and play, More power to ya, good luck.


:)

eniaC

Luc Solar
10-26-2003, 06:40 AM
Yeah-yeah.. and it might have been that Obi was like focusing on the moisture in the air around him and by manipulating that air he forced the lightning to go right into his saber which he has earlier that day enhanced with sith-lightning-absorbtion-thingies..

We can speculate all we want but my opinion is that the whole idea sucks, yours as well as the guy's who wanted to put it in the movie in the first place. Bad idea. Bad bad bad. :)

Wouldn't it be easier to simply make a special animation for absorb when someone is lightining you so that it looks like it's the saber doing the absorbing?

Otherwise we'd end up severly nerfing lightning and making absorb much less useful. And all for what?

Personally I'm all for the Promod-style of "keep your aim on the enemy to block his attacks", but putting that into the game for the sake of countering only ONE attack and thus make it "just liek teh moviez"....nah. Bad idea, imho. :)

(Btw: this has got to be about the 20th thread about this topic. Obviously a lot of people thought what Obi did was cool...)

AJL
10-26-2003, 08:17 AM
My opinions.....

1. Force lightning should be modified so that Level 3 is
like Level 2 but lower cost... (no wide spread lightning)
And... Lightning should also be more powerfull so that
when it hits it should immediately knock the enemy
down, push it away and damage it (a lot)...

2. Jedis and Siths should be able to block lightning with
lightsaber like Obi did in EP2... And it shouldn't cost any
force or health or... but to be able to do it at all players
should have pretty high saber skills (but with only saber
skills blocking should be random... some times it do block
but something it gets through...)

If you succeed to block it then the lightning should get
stuck in to your saber so you are safe... but if you don't
succeed to block it then you should get knocked down
and you shouldn't be able to block it anymore so you
are screwed...

Some force skills in either Lightning or Absorb... should
make that blocking succeed with 100% probability... (of
cource assuming that player is in defencive state and
facing the attacker...)

Toxie
10-26-2003, 09:19 AM
(Btw: this has got to be about the 20th thread about this topic. Obviously a lot of people thought what Obi did was cool...)

We didn't "think" it's cool, it was very cool. I remember when I saw that in the theatre just about everyone in there went "WHOA!" when he did that . Most of the people who bitch about that are just SW purists who want everything to be like what was in the 70's movies, no dice. It's cool though if you hate the idea in the game, but in the movie that was uber cool.

Akshara
10-26-2003, 09:44 AM
Yes it was cool. And like it was any more stupid than Obi-Wan simply "dematerializing" on Darth Vader's kill strike in Episode IV.

If you want to make a lighting block mod, turn it into a force combo...

The user must have:

Saber Defend Level 3
Force Sight Level 3
Force Pull Level 3
Force Absorb Level 3

And then to auto-activate it the saber must be pointing in the direction of the caster before the lightning strikes them, and mana regeneration stops just like with a normal force power. If you place the crosshair directly on the caster at this point, the lightning can be turned back upon him using Alt Attack, though it drains your mana pool while you do it. This makes it a cool combo power, though it takes away force allocation points from other areas, stops mana regeneration, and the user must have mana to counter-attack. Somewhat balanced, requiring advanced technique to use properly.

eniaC
10-26-2003, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Akshara
Yes it was cool. And like it was any more stupid than Obi-Wan simply "dematerializing" on Darth Vader's kill strike in Episode IV.

If you want to make a lighting block mod, turn it into a force combo...

The user must have:

Saber Defend Level 3
Force Sight Level 3
Force Pull Level 3
Force Absorb Level 3

And then to auto-activate it the saber must be pointing in the direction of the caster before the lightning strikes them, and mana regeneration stops just like with a normal force power. If you place the crosshair directly on the caster at this point, the lightning can be turned back upon him using Alt Attack, though it drains your mana pool while you do it. This makes it a cool combo power, though it takes away force allocation points from other areas, stops mana regeneration, and the user must have mana to counter-attack. Somewhat balanced, requiring advanced technique to use properly.

Those are my force sttings except I alternate my sight with protection occasionally(but never higher than lvl 2 for either).

What is the force pull for though?(besides the kick a** blue stance, pull jab), and saber offense should be there to0(haven't met anyone dumb enough to set it below three any how, besides in melee)

I suppose this would be an interesting mod, but I think that you'll find that only light side force users would download, play or host. So you would need something to balance it out for the lightning wh*res and darkies. Maybe like making lightning more lethal like it should be or not having as many drawbacks for using dark rage or even making drain a little more effective on a single opponent. And if you really want to make it challenging put only darkside holocrons on the maps. There are more ways I'm sure you could balance this out, and I would be up for a more challenging game anytime.

P.S. Dooku would have been owned by Vapaad (7th degree of lightsaber combat that Windu created and only his padawan Depa Billaba knew, no...there...is...another...........)

eniaC

Comm539
10-26-2003, 05:19 PM
...why not use absorb. And if you want to look like anikane and odi bom from teh movies!!111 just have it look like your saber is blocking the lightening when you turn absorb on (instead of the blue field)

Akshara
10-26-2003, 05:27 PM
What is the force pull for though?

In this case, to "pull" the lightning toward your saber. The point is to use much needed Force Allocation points in areas most people wouldn't normally to get the power, such as Pull and Sight. For example, in your case you would have to take away 8 points from somewhere else and put them Sight level 3 to be able to block lightning.

I always set Pull max, and use it all the time to pull others within range of the saberstaff swing. It's also great for pulling fleeing opponents toward you, yanking explosives out of the hands of those demolitions guys, pulling the flag carrier behind you in a chase... and everybody expects to be pushed off a ledge, so they rarely are prepared to be pulled off one from behind. Pull is one of the most underused powers online from my experience.

And as a saberstaff user, I rarely set Saber Offense higher than 1... it's not necessary unless you encounter lots of saberlocks.

g//plaZma
10-26-2003, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Comm539
...why not use absorb. And if you want to look like anikane and odi bom from teh movies!!111 just have it look like your saber is blocking the lightening when you turn absorb on (instead of the blue field)

Exactly, there are many ways to avoid/counter lightning. What's the point in making another way? To make lightning utterly useless?

Akshara
10-26-2003, 05:30 PM
To have fun... why else?

:p

g//plaZma
10-26-2003, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by Akshara
To have fun... why else?

:p

Balance should come packaged with fun, or else no one will use lightning and therefore no fun, it'll end up being just another useless force power.

eniaC
10-26-2003, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Akshara
And as a saberstaff user, I rarely set Saber Offense higher than 1... it's not necessary unless you encounter lots of saberlocks.

WOW D*mn, you seriuos, doesn't that take away alot though, mighty brave of you.
;)
I use single, I think saber offense has to be lvl 3 to use all stances, bummer.

Originally posted by g//plaZma
Exactly, there are many ways to avoid/counter lightning. What's the point in making another way? To make lightning utterly useless?

Deffinately, thats why you have to give the darkies something added to even this out. Like stronger lightning(g_forcerealisticlightning 2, btw, just kidding about that command, made it up).

eniaC

eniaC
10-26-2003, 05:53 PM
Obi-wan I don't think ever really used a strong stance, he was lightning fast and didn't have too. Maybe force speed should also be a requirement being that electrical current moves mighty fast.

How many OHM's and amps are we talking anyhow, 1500 volts at 30 amps, OUCH. You would think that would disinigrate any hilt or blow it up in the jedi's face. Maybe it should require a special hilt with a unique crystal.

OK now I'm just rambling sorry,

eniaC

Akshara
10-26-2003, 06:42 PM
Balance should come packaged with fun, or else no one will use lightning and therefore no fun, it'll end up being just another useless force power.

Ok... how about an enhanced Deathstrike for the Dark Side. Similar to the lightning saber block, it requires putting allocation points into several areas to attain, and then has a similar after effect as Rage does. This would be a Lightning strike on overdrive that was an insta-kill, but left the caster completely empty of health, shields, and force, except for 1 health point left.

Really, I think the game is fine the way it is too. I was just offering suggestions to the original poster in case he did decide to develop a mod for this.

Comm539
10-26-2003, 10:41 PM
Obi-wan I don't think ever really used a strong stance, he was lightning fast and didn't have too.

How many OHM's and amps are we talking anyhow, 1500 volts at 30 amps, OUCH. You would think that would disinigrate any hilt or blow it up in the jedi's face.


omg stop plz. Your too funny. I remeber Anikan's long lost brother in the third marvel comic crossover with special gold George Lucas collectors edition plates specifically stating that Darth Vader used a combination of Medium and strong swings so have consequently come to the conclusion that JEDI ACADEMY IS A GAME (AGES 12 AND UP). Stop being so sad.

boinga1
10-26-2003, 11:47 PM
Isn't it really ages 13 and up? Since the game is rated Teen?






:D







How did we ever get onto the subject of the exact voltage used by Dooku's lgihtning? I mean...It can't really be "normal" electricity anyways, because if it was, then it would be attrated to the METAL FLOOR and everyone in the hangar would be electrocuted. So the voltage isn't really relevant.

Besides, I can't imagine how you would block level 3 lightning. Level 1 or 2...maybe. But not level 3 lightning.

eniaC
10-27-2003, 02:06 AM
Originally posted by Comm539
omg stop plz. Your too funny. I remeber Anikan's long lost brother in the third marvel comic crossover with special gold George Lucas collectors edition plates specifically stating that Darth Vader used a combination of Medium and strong swings so have consequently come to the conclusion that JEDI ACADEMY IS A GAME (AGES 12 AND UP). Stop being so sad.

IT WAS A FREAKIN JOKE!!! ..|.,

btw: my kids younger than 12 and plays if you would like to play someone more your own age.

Azymn
10-27-2003, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by g//plaZma
Balance should come packaged with fun, or else no one will use lightning and therefore no fun, it'll end up being just another useless force power.
Agreed.
If lightning is made blockable it will change from being a sprayed area weapon to a skillful, targeted attack.
It should be made likewise as powerful as it is in the movies and (as AJL mentioned before and actually coded) allow for temporary paralysis/knockdown on a succesful hit.

So as an opponent has more chances to block/deflect the attack, the penalty for failure is much higher than simply a few points of lost health. I also think that it should be part of a mod, not a patch.

Comm539
10-27-2003, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by {R^S}eniaC{JC}
IT WAS A FREAKIN JOKE!!! ..|.,

btw: my kids younger than 12 and plays if you would like to play someone more your own age.


rofl. How old are you? You have kids and you play a childs game. Good Fight.

btw. I'm 5 years old (going on 6) and i'd be happy to duel you anytime. I heard you lightening pwns.

eniaC
10-27-2003, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Comm539
rofl. How old are you? You have kids and you play a childs game. Good Fight.

btw. I'm 5 years old (going on 6) and i'd be happy to duel you anytime. I heard you lightening pwns.

:thumbs1:
Yes I have a kid, two in fact. I would much rather play games with him, whines alot less than most of you folks. I have had a google amount more of good times playing JO, The Clone Wars, And Jedi Starfighter on home consoles than I ever have with this whiney immature MP community. (btw: I've play other MP games than This. ie:RTCW, MOHAA, and JO and others). In fact I've had more fun "watching" him play JO against cheshire vader in the emperor's throne room on the PC.

What's not a child's game, your almighty s/o ff ctf, I suppose it would be after freeze tag and duck duck goose loses its appeal.
Try turning off your computer...finding a friend...and playing Chutes and Ladders.

And for all you folks that I have offended with these comments, I appologize in advance, but it's the plain and simple truth from what I've seen.(re-elaborate "from what I've seen")

http://funwavs.com/wavfile.php?quote=1703&sound=299
http://funwavs.com/wavfile.php?quote=1708&sound=299

For of those childish adults out there(like me) who enjoy button mashing, check this out, it's a riot.
http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/clonewars/index.html
;)

eniaC *playing Bradly Bookshelf games with father when most of you were cr*pping in diappers*
Age: over 25
Married
2 children
and d*mn proud of it.

Master_Keralys
11-04-2003, 09:47 PM
Okay, a blaster bolt is more coherent than lightning (since it's part gas as well as light), which is why it's deflected. But with the lightning, the energy is actually absorbed into the blade, which is pure energy anyway. This doesn't have to be explained, but it is another case of George Lucas referencing EU material!. Take that, EU haters... Anyway - the blade can absorb it. As mentioned before, it's not normal lightning; it's directed and controlled by the wielder. Therefore, with some skill with the Force it's possible to use a lightsaber to simply turn the current into saber energy - it's not that far off from charging your power source (battery), except it's a lot more current at a single time.