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Godzilla
11-02-2003, 08:41 PM
I've been confused about this from the day TPM came out. Pro-water: The novel Splinter of the Mind's Eye shows Luke jumping in water and using his father's old lightsaber to kill a swimming creature. The games Jedi Knight and Mysteries of the Sithalso support the pro-water theory. Con-water: A deleted scene from TPM that is shown in the official graphic novelization tells us that Obi-Wan's lightsaber burnt out because it was on when the blade touched water. TPM's game supports the con-water theory, as do the Jedi Apprentice young adult novels, and the games Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy. So there are the facts. Now I need an answer. Please tell me your opinion or if I left out any sources that feature further facts on either of the two theorys. Thanks for reading my post. -Godzilla

Jan Gaarni
11-03-2003, 02:37 PM
Usually you have to go with what the movies and the novels of the movies tell you. So in this case, they can't operate, or atleast not effectively, under or into water.

Sivy
11-03-2003, 02:43 PM
in the new clone wars cartoon there is. apparently, a scene
where kit fisto battles quarren underwater with his lightsaber.

and, apparently theres a scene in Ep III where obi-wan uses his lightsaber under water


but then as Jan Gaarni said, its not canon unless/ until its in a film.

Godzilla
11-03-2003, 03:14 PM
True, but all the Star Wars references have to be taken into account. I think its just a blooper that was never appropriately addressed. I'm content to believe that lightsabers don't work under water. Maybe I'll write Star Wars Insider about it. Anybody else have opinions?

Master_Keralys
11-04-2003, 05:23 PM
Pure energy + H2O = steam, hot water, ouch. In the YJK, they could use them underwater, simply because it was so fraggin cold anyway that the energy didn't matter that much. In a more temperate or smaller body of water, that energy would have a much greater impact on the overall heat of the system. That's why people turn them off underwater. It's also bad if your saber casing isn't water-tight, for the obvious reasons.

Astrotoy7
11-05-2003, 12:13 PM
It has been referenced(on the official site, I believe) that Obi wans saber shorted when it got wet(when he fill into the water on Naboo,)and he couldnt use it until he fixed it.

He apparently studied to fix this problem and this is why he can have a smashing good fight with jango(using his new saber) in the rain in AOTC, ie water didnt short it out. I just think that they cant be used *underwater* - but who knows - THEYRE NOT REAL SO IM NOT GONNA WORRY ABOUT IT !!!

MTFBWYA

Godzilla
11-06-2003, 05:13 PM
I believe that only a high concentration of water can short out a saber. Thats why Obi-wan's saber didn't short out in the rain. This is also referenced to in the Jedi Academy trilogy and the book Darksaber. Thanks for the help guys.

Master_Keralys
11-06-2003, 05:21 PM
I think the problem with Obi-Wan's was that it wasn't hermetically sealed, and so was shorted out by water getting into the circuitry of the saber itself. Just being in water isn't an issue; it's when the circuitry gets wet...

Shotokan
12-02-2003, 03:48 AM
Sounds logical. That's what I thought all along...

MasterN64
12-02-2003, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
It has been referenced(on the official site, I believe) that Obi wans saber shorted when it got wet(when he fill into the water on Naboo,)and he couldnt use it until he fixed it.

He apparently studied to fix this problem and this is why he can have a smashing good fight with jango(using his new saber) in the rain in AOTC, ie water didnt short it out. I just think that they cant be used *underwater* - but who knows - THEYRE NOT REAL SO IM NOT GONNA WORRY ABOUT IT !!!

MTFBWYA

Who knows? Mayb in the VERY distant future lightsabers do exist and cant go under water. Or the government hasn't released them to the public and they know. (I hope none of you tak this as literal[howvever maybe in a few hundred years there will be])

Astrotoy7
12-03-2003, 03:41 AM
Mastern64..I hope you are either under 13, or that English is your second language...you have a very bizarre way of expressing yourself through words.....

you're cool though, just dont try to get the mods too upset !

MTFBWYA

*sorry, off topic, but I've said my piece above*

tuskenguy
12-31-2003, 06:48 PM
would the water not vaporize on contact with the blade? as someone said before pure energy + H2O = steam...

Glaive v.1
01-14-2004, 01:24 PM
Maybe coz kit fisto was an aquatic lifeform he would have designed his sabre to be able to functionk under water. As others are not aquatic they would have no need for them to be designed to function under water.

Think about it. That could explain it

Writer
01-14-2004, 04:32 PM
My guess is that at the time Obi-Wan's lightsaber was messed up in TPM, there were no lightsabers capable of working underwater. However, as time went by, the Jedi figured out how to make them work underwater.

Godzilla
01-17-2004, 11:16 PM
:eek: Woah. The thread is alive! ALIVE! ALIVE!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!





Mmph. Sorry. :D