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kantaris
12-05-2003, 08:47 PM
(Please excuse any errors in my post, I have 2 broken fingers on my right hand)

I got Jedi Academy for a reason, because I like killing people with my lightsaber/gun. Most of the lower ping servers are either empty, or have people just standing around.

WHY WILL NOBODY FIGHT.

So, apparantly, a game, in which the purpose is to kill others, if you kill somebody with their saber down or their chat box up, it's unethical.

If you people want to chat, go on IRC, that's what it's for.

If you dont want to fight, then simply DON'T PLAY! It's not hard! I can't get a decent game in, because on most of the servers, you get kicked/banned for playing the game! If you use force powers alot, it's considered laming, and some of the time, you get a server kick. Gripping off a cliff is laming, using guns is laming (on a gun server too!)

Somkeone's gotta help me. If you know any servers that are servers for playing the game, PLEASE, tell me! I'm tired of joining a different server every 5 mins!

g//plaZma
12-05-2003, 09:09 PM
Heh we all suffer from this idiocy since JK2. The only advice I can give you is to find a good server and stick with it. Chop Shop, =X=, and basically any server run by a competitive clan or an admin who won't tolerate this honor bullsh1t is good (Kurgan's server). That's what I do for my pubbing.

kantaris
12-05-2003, 09:12 PM
I thank you for your reply, and I will start searching asap!

If anyone else has any server ideas, please feel free to reply

Kurgan
12-05-2003, 09:21 PM
On my server people play the game, or they don't play. ; )

I'm not heavy handed about it, just no-nonesense... and thus they know what to expect on my server: lots of explosions and slashing and dying, as the developers intended!

Amidala seems to subscribe to this philosophy as well, I'm happy to say. Just look, there are some good servers out there, and when you find them you'll be happy!

TK-8252
12-05-2003, 10:15 PM
If someone doesn't want to fight, and the server lets people chat, duel, role play, etc. then they don't have to fight.

My advice to you:

Find a server for fighting, *Kurgan's Meatgrinder* and Chop Shop are examples of the type of server's you'd probably be interested in.

Master_Keralys
12-05-2003, 10:18 PM
Hey Kurgan - does your server have a name? Just out of curiousity, b/c you only ever show your IP address. Maybe if I ever get to play online, I'll go there, but I'm going to recommend it to friends, and if it has a name it'll be easier.

Sorry if this is posted elsewhere.

g//plaZma
12-05-2003, 10:20 PM
Why does everyone in the honor crowd refer to playing the game as "fighting?" Pressing keys on a keyboard is hardly fighting. :confused:

idontlikegeorge
12-05-2003, 10:48 PM
I thought the point of a F/TPS game in multiplayer was to fight.

If I wanna chat, I'll go play a free MMORPG like Tibia or something. The Jedi games aren't places for group role-play - they just aren't made for that.


I guess a good "action" game that you can group role-play is Multi-Theft-Auto, the multiplay mod for GTA3 and Vice City... buggy, but still fun... and given the relative humor of those environments, goofy role-playing and chatting while in a gunfight outside an Ammunation seems somehow right. :p

But not the Jedi Knight games. It's fighting. If I want a character or story, I'll play SP episodes, and slowly complete my own.

SpecialForces
12-05-2003, 10:55 PM
If I go on a server and no one is playing, I just screw them and lame everyone until I get kicked!!!
And I do not do it if there are people playing, not even if one person is playing. There are allways ways to have fun :)

Kurgan
12-05-2003, 11:11 PM
Hey Kurgan - does your server have a name? Just out of curiousity, b/c you only ever show your IP address. Maybe if I ever get to play online, I'll go there, but I'm going to recommend it to friends, and if it has a name it'll be easier.

Sorry if this is posted elsewhere.

The name varies, but usually it's *Kurgan's Meatgrinder* (for general FFA mayhem and CTF) or *Kurgan's Assault & Battery* (Siege). If it's named something else, chances are I'm running some whacky mods or some such. ; )

TK-8252
12-06-2003, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by SpecialForces
If I go on a server and no one is playing, I just screw them and lame everyone until I get kicked!!! You must have a really sad life, no offense. :)

Sam Fisher
12-06-2003, 01:58 AM
I like the @BWN servers, because if there is an admin on it, and you screw around, you'll get kicked, no questions asked. Otherwise, you can do anything you want.

g//plaZma
12-06-2003, 02:08 AM
Originally posted by TK8252MJL
You must have a really sad life, no offense. :)

Less than I can say for honorable 12 yr old jedi masters who sit around in servers, chatting like it's a virtual chatroom while occasionally screaming "LAMER," no offense. :)

kantaris
12-06-2003, 02:28 AM
this thread has given me new hope! Awesome for those of us who actually play the game

TK-8252
12-06-2003, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by g//plaZma
Less than I can say for honorable 12 yr old jedi masters who sit around in servers, chatting like it's a virtual chatroom while occasionally screaming "LAMER," no offense. :) Thank god I'm not like that! :)

Amidala from Chop Shop
12-06-2003, 05:56 AM
I went to the JK3Files Server tonight, just to see what another server was like. It was FFA on the mp/ffa3 map, Tatooine City. Out of about a dozen people, two were having a saber fight outside. The rest were in several groups, saber off and chatting.
Some were pretending they were running the cantina, complaining that "the stupid jawas were late with the food supply". Others were pretending to be patrons in the cantina, and were ordering Bantha soup and AT-ST rum drinks. Everyone was very calm and well-behaved. They seemed to be having fun, I guess that's all that really matters.

As Mr. Spock would say, "Fascinating".

Rumor
12-06-2003, 06:05 AM
Originally posted by Amidala from Chop Shop
I went to the JK3Files Server tonight, just to see what another server was like. It was FFA on the mp/ffa3 map, Tatooine City. Out of about a dozen people, two were having a saber fight outside. The rest were in several groups, saber off and chatting.
Some were pretending they were running the cantina, complaining that "the stupid jawas were late with the food supply". Others were pretending to be patrons in the cantina, and were ordering Bantha soup and AT-ST rum drinks. Everyone was very calm and well-behaved. They seemed to be having fun, I guess that's all that really matters.

As Mr. Spock would say, "Fascinating".

having LARP'd often and played dungeons and dragons quite a bit, i can see how this is fun, but i would only do it with very close friends (as in irl friends -- tho i think you can make very very good friends over the net) and if it wasn't on LAN it would be in a pw'd server and i wouldn't be using my normal name ;)

Astrotoy7
12-06-2003, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by SpecialForces
If I go on a server and no one is playing, I just screw them and lame everyone until I get kicked!!!
And I do not do it if there are people playing, not even if one person is playing. There are allways ways to have fun :)

Cut SpecialForces some slack guys, his got a CRAP PC, isnt allowed to get JK3 unless he gets straight A's, and wont be gettin a new PC anyway because the money is spent on his sisters horse ! Read his sig and feel the young mans pain !

Remember this special forces...

....that horse will one day be glue, and in 2010 you will own your own souped up gaming PC, and be playing JK6 at 400fps on your 3GB video card..... :D

MTFBWYA

WadeV1589
12-06-2003, 03:20 PM
If you ever see a server starting with WadeV1589 or Scotty79 check them out, they are servers who's only rule is "never say lamer/laming/lame"...and believe it or not some people come in and can't accept that one rule! It's like "you can't kill me with saber down, you can't kill me chatting but by God I can scream lamer as much as I want even if it's the only rule you enforce"...

As for the JK3Files server, if Shroom is in there people obey the rules, there was one admin in there last time I was in who enjoyed using the word lamer and hardly fighting which I find disappointing. JK3Files is only good when the admin is there to watch everyone, otherwise it turns into what you said...saying that JK3Files has the "saber down and chatting means no kill" rule...which is usually 70% of the people in the server...I hate that rule, it ruins servers.

TK-8252
12-06-2003, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Amidala from Chop Shop
I went to the JK3Files Server tonight, just to see what another server was like. It was FFA on the mp/ffa3 map, Tatooine City. Out of about a dozen people, two were having a saber fight outside. The rest were in several groups, saber off and chatting.
Some were pretending they were running the cantina, complaining that "the stupid jawas were late with the food supply". Others were pretending to be patrons in the cantina, and were ordering Bantha soup and AT-ST rum drinks. Everyone was very calm and well-behaved. They seemed to be having fun, I guess that's all that really matters.

As Mr. Spock would say, "Fascinating". What?! I MISSED IT!!!!!! :mad:

;)

SpecialForces
12-06-2003, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
Cut SpecialForces some slack guys, his got a CRAP PC, isnt allowed to get JK3 unless he gets straight A's, and wont be gettin a new PC anyway because the money is spent on his sisters horse ! Read his sig and feel the young mans pain !

Remember this special forces...

....that horse will one day be glue, and in 2010 you will own your own souped up gaming PC, and be playing JK6 at 400fps on your 3ghz video card..... :D

MTFBWYA

YAY!
something to look forward too!!! :) :) :) :) :)

acdcfanbill
12-07-2003, 07:14 AM
yet another server to add to the list for people fed up with whiney players who scream lamer at everyone who doesnt fall onto their blade. check my sig :) its alwasy up, located in NY and run either all default setup, or xmod w/ kicks :p

FK | unnamed
12-07-2003, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by Amidala from Chop Shop
I went to the JK3Files Server tonight, just to see what another server was like. It was FFA on the mp/ffa3 map, Tatooine City. Out of about a dozen people, two were having a saber fight outside. The rest were in several groups, saber off and chatting.
Some were pretending they were running the cantina, complaining that "the stupid jawas were late with the food supply". Others were pretending to be patrons in the cantina, and were ordering Bantha soup and AT-ST rum drinks. Everyone was very calm and well-behaved. They seemed to be having fun, I guess that's all that really matters.

As Mr. Spock would say, "Fascinating".

Bones would have said "Jim, let's blow these dorks all to hell".

;)

The rpg guys are cool, I don't bother them.


Most of our beef (and I assume the same as the guy who made this thread) is with "Jedi Chatters".

Chatting in a FPS is no big deal.

Where the problem lies is when those said chatters get touched/killed/looked at the wrong way, and flip out on people (voting them off the server, banning them).


And this is the weird part I don't get...


If you are not playing and just chatting, why do you care what another player does to your "body"?

Chat messages will still get broadcast, you don't have to stand face to face to talk (other than mm3).

acdcfanbill
12-07-2003, 09:21 AM
their reasons defy all logic of man, space, time, or god. I dont know that for sure, but im betting it does :D I for the most part try to leave chatters alone just so i dont have to listen to them complain, unless they are shooting their mouth off or something, then its open season :) course, i usually get kicked from pubs before too long anyway :p

Jeff 42
12-07-2003, 04:25 PM
My clan's server is an FFA all-weapon server with no silly rules about "laming" or anything like that. It's usually empty (which is kind of sad, because the JK2 FFA server was the best one out there and was typically near full capacity for several hours each evening), but sometimes there are some good games going there.

[oE] The Obsidian Empire ^1FFA ^5TX|49ms|66.98.178.12:25000

Amidala from Chop Shop
12-07-2003, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Jeff 42
My clan's server is an FFA all-weapon server with no silly rules about "laming" or anything like that. It's usually empty (which is kind of sad, because the JK2 FFA server was the best one out there and was typically near full capacity for several hours each evening), but sometimes there are some good games going there.

[oE] The Obsidian Empire ^1FFA ^5TX|49ms|66.98.178.12:25000

The Obsidian Empire (formerly Cardassia Prime when I played on it in JK2) was one of my favorite servers (along with HuntingWabbits.com) when I first started playing JK2, and was one of the inspirations for my first Chop Shop server. The oE guys are some of the most amazing players I've ever seen, and I feel great when I see Redstar, Eidolon, and Firezombie coming by to play on my servers. If you go to the oE server you will be guaranteed a great game, with no worries about being called a "lamer".

I will show my gratitude to you guys by promoting your server on my servers with my infamous automated server messages. If there are any other server operators running no honor code, no whining, true FFA servers, list them here or private message me and I'll do the same for you. Players who like to really play the game need to know where else they can go if their favorite server is full or down, without having to worry about being called "lamer" or being punished for "killing" someone in a "dishonorable" way.

SpecialForces
12-07-2003, 09:50 PM
Chop shop owns.
I cant wait to get JA.
It better not be full :)
As soon as I install it im going strait to Chop Shop. :)

Things I love about Chop Shop in jk2:
1. Time limits. ctf doesnt go on forever.
2. NO lag.
3. one time there was an admin problem but thats ok Amidala responded instantly to my complaint.
No abusive admins
4. Great variety of maps and gametypes.
5. I like the name :)

Amidala:
your pm inbox is full so I cant send you any mesages.

saurumonk
12-07-2003, 10:34 PM
yeah i noticed that myself in a FFA the other day... I'm still fairly new to the game --however I do know the difference between duel and free for all-- it's kinda of self explanitory. everyone was standing around watching 2 ppl duel at a time some sabers off some sabers on.... so I did exactly what the game said- I went free for all and sabered everyone mostly the ones with sabers on and still got you f---ing lamer and stupid noob... the way I look at it if you want 1v1 there are tons of servers for that purpose, dont waste space in a game to spectate when you are not meant to- go to a duel server and spectate and wait your turn there... ima kill everyone I see standing around in a free for all game unles they are chat boxed maybe then theyll get the hint to go to the appropriate game( if the players in this game are anything like the ones on battle.net- then this message will probably go in one ear and out the other and continue doing stupid **** regardless of what you try to get them to do.

acdcfanbill
12-07-2003, 11:49 PM
Yea i play on there a fair amount, when im looking for some fast action. killing two or three guys in a group with one swing is so satisfying :) plus alot of the ppl there are fairly good so its never easy to win, normally half the server at a high tier of kills, and the other half have only a handful ;)

FK | unnamed
12-08-2003, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by saurumonk
yeah i noticed that myself in a FFA the other day... I'm still fairly new to the game --however I do know the difference between duel and free for all-- it's kinda of self explanitory. everyone was standing around watching 2 ppl duel at a time some sabers off some sabers on.... so I did exactly what the game said- I went free for all and sabered everyone mostly the ones with sabers on and still got you f---ing lamer and stupid noob... the way I look at it if you want 1v1 there are tons of servers for that purpose, dont waste space in a game to spectate when you are not meant to- go to a duel server and spectate and wait your turn there... ima kill everyone I see standing around in a free for all game unles they are chat boxed maybe then theyll get the hint to go to the appropriate game( if the players in this game are anything like the ones on battle.net- then this message will probably go in one ear and out the other and continue doing stupid **** regardless of what you try to get them to do.

And no matter what bull**** people try to feed you or whatever insults they toss your way, you did NOTHING wrong.

What happens to guys like him ^ on public servers is the exact reason why I can't stand admin mods and honor dorks.

They (the honor dorks and admin mods) drive guys like him out of the community. They just can't let this guy enjoy his game like a normal person.

He's butting in and tainting their perfect little structured Jedi Fantasy world and he must be cast out.

And what kind of guy is he?

Just some dude looking to play a game he bought.

g//plaZma
12-08-2003, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by FK | unnamed
And no matter what bull**** people try to feed you or whatever insults they toss your way, you did NOTHING wrong.

What happens to guys like him ^ on public servers is the exact reason why I can't stand admin mods and honor dorks.

They (the honor dorks and admin mods) drive guys like him out of the community. They just can't let this guy enjoy his game like a normal person.

He's butting in and tainting their perfect little structured Jedi Fantasy world and he must be cast out.

And what kind of guy is he?

Just some dude looking to play a game he bought.

Yeah, really. People should be allowed to connect to servers and play the game as it was intended.

What this guy described is what I went through when I first started JK2. I mean I really don't see the thrill of standing somewhere in the map with your saber off and chatting to people. Can someone who likes doing this actually explain this to me?

TK-8252
12-08-2003, 12:32 AM
I was not aware that there was some ultimate law of the land that said ALL people and servers MUST encourage players to play EXACTLY HOW THE GAME TELLS YOU TO.

Is there some reason why a server cannot tweak their gameplay to allow players to do something other than what the game was intended for? IMO, just constant killing and killing gets boring after a while. Humans are social creatures.

And the reason we dont just host a duel server is because it's better to be able to do a little of everything. A little FFA, a little dueling, a little chatting, a little role playing, is that so much to ask?

The server is paying for the service, they should be able to set what rules they want. And people should respect these rules, because no one is forcing you to stay there. If your idea of having a "fun time" in a video game is going around disrespecting people and making people's gaming experience misreable then you need to consider rethinking your life. :)

g//plaZma
12-08-2003, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by TK8252MJL
I was not aware that there was some ultimate law of the land that said ALL people and servers MUST encourage players to play EXACTLY HOW THE GAME TELLS YOU TO.

No there isn't but there are more servers with the honor laws than normal gameplay servers. I find it weird.

Is there some reason why a server cannot tweak their gameplay to allow players to do something other than what the game was intended for? IMO, just constant killing and killing gets boring after a while. Humans are social creatures.

The IRC argument stands true with this statement. It's a game, people.

And the reason we dont just host a duel server is because it's better to be able to do a little of everything. A little FFA, a little dueling, a little chatting, a little role playing, is that so much to ask?

It gets confusing when you connect to a server labeled FFA and you get cursed at for killing people and then the next second you get /amsleeped and an admin is standing over you telling you that you're a mother****ing lamer and that u have no honor. At least get someone to do a mod for you guys so your servers are clearly labeled "RPG Honor Server" or something. By cursing at newcomers for killing someone, you're driving them away from a perfectly fun game. It's not really obvious to newcomers that you guys are honor people and don't like it when others kill you because this defies yoda's code of jedi honor.

The server is paying for the service, they should be able to set what rules they want. And people should respect these rules, because no one is forcing you to stay there. If your idea of having a "fun time" in a video game is going around disrespecting people and making people's gaming experience misreable then you need to consider rethinking your life. :)

I'd hardly consider killing people in a video game where you're supposed to kill people making someones gaming experience miserable. If this really does make your "e-wellbeing" and "e-life" so miserable, bring it to court or something. Yeah, admins can make their own rules but being total *******s to newcomers is pretty lame.

TK-8252
12-08-2003, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by g//plaZma
No there isn't but there are more servers with the honor laws than normal gameplay servers. I find it weird. Yes, that does seem to be werid, but it just shows that most players are, as you guys put it, "honor nerds".

Originally posted by g//plaZma
The IRC argument stands true with this statement. It's a game, people. Some people find chatting in a 3D video game more interesting than chatting on a square box on your internet browser.

Originally posted by g//plaZma
telling you that you're a mother****ing lamer

Good "honor" servers don't do that sort of thing. Just because one bee stings doesn't mean that the whole hive is responsible. (is that how that saying goes? *shrugs*)

Originally posted by g//plaZma
I'd hardly consider killing people in a video game where you're supposed to kill people making someones gaming experience miserable. If this really does make your "e-wellbeing" and "e-life" so miserable, bring it to court or something. First of all, if you don't want to fight, and the server has rules protecting those who do not want to fight, you are expecting not to be attacked. So if you are then attacked, your experience with the game becomes less pleasant.

Originally posted by g//plaZma
Yeah, admins can make their own rules but being total *******s to newcomers is pretty lame.

Originally posted by TK8252MJL
Good "honor" servers don't do that sort of thing. Just because one bee stings doesn't mean that the whole hive is responsible. (is that how that saying goes? *shrugs*)

WadeV1589
12-08-2003, 02:38 AM
The simple fact is though, there are few respectable honour servers. Most of them will end up resulting in a person who listens to the FFA part of the server name being cursed at, kicked or banned. There is no doubt a handful of good servers out there that say "you killed me, please don't do it again, this is an honour server where no killing is requested at certain times" or words to that effect, most servers get the very first thing said to a person to be "**** of n00b, you lamer" - and we all have seen that.

The point is, unless the title of the server (the only bit that many people ever see) is clearly stated to be "honour" then anyone who comes in killing should not be treated the way they are. Admins have a right to set up their own rules...they have a demand on them as a human to respect others...it may be just a game, but the language and insults used on people is certainly not a game. It is a real person saying a very real thing and puts newcomers off and can even lead to people becoming angry or upset.

Why must people speak how they do, if someone breaks a server rule, tell them politely, if they continue to dis-obay, get an admin to warn them, there is no need for kicking, banning or cursing unless the newcomer tells you to screw yourself. Then kick him for foul language on a clean server. Don't kick him because he's playing FFA on a FFA labelled server.

Samuel Dravis
12-08-2003, 02:57 AM
I was chatting in a Siege game the other day, but only because it was just 1 other person on it besides myself. However, we got bored fairly quickly, and it degenerated into a pistol duel. :D Trying to attack the objectives was pretty pointless anyway... Had some fun with guns still, though.

acdcfanbill
12-08-2003, 04:50 AM
when people complain to me about being lamed, i just encourage them to go find whomever 'lamed' them and just kick their butt :) and if they cant, well i guess they should pratice more... of course on the few no (honorz) rules servers there are whenever someone complains about being lamed, the whole server usually gets on their case :p

Rumor
12-08-2003, 05:41 AM
Originally posted by TK8252MJL

Is there some reason why a server cannot tweak their gameplay to allow players to do something other than what the game was intended for? IMO, just constant killing and killing gets boring after a while. Humans are social creatures.


thats what clans/fansites are for.

if you want to do roleplaying go buy nwn and get/make a SW mod for it. hell if you REALLY want to roleplay do the old pen/paper or LARP style. ****load more fun than sitting around in a game talking to someone.

TK-8252
12-08-2003, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by WadeV1589
The simple fact is though, there are few respectable honour servers. Most of them will end up resulting in a person who listens to the FFA part of the server name being cursed at, kicked or banned. ... most servers get the very first thing said to a person to be "**** of n00b, you lamer" - and we all have seen that. True... see, these are the servers that give the honor code style servers a bad name. Sad, IMO.

Originally posted by WadeV1589
The point is, unless the title of the server (the only bit that many people ever see) is clearly stated to be "honour" then anyone who comes in killing should not be treated the way they are. Well when servers start to get admin mods up, a joining player will be able to see the rules stated on the MOTD. So if a server has the rules stated in the MOTD, a joining player is expected to read this, and obey it.

Originally posted by WadeV1589
there is no need for kicking, banning or cursing unless the newcomer tells you to screw yourself. Then kick him for foul language on a clean server. Don't kick him because he's playing FFA on a FFA labelled server. Well, if someone continues to break server rules, such as attacking players with their saber off, you can't just let them go about breaking the rule. Although cursing at a rule breaker is unacceptable.

Originally posted by acdcfanbill
when people complain to me about being lamed, i just encourage them to go find whomever 'lamed' them and just kick their butt :) and if they cant, well i guess they should pratice more... of course on the few no (honorz) rules servers there are whenever someone complains about being lamed, the whole server usually gets on their case :p The reason someone wouldn't just go back and kill whoever lamed them is because THEY DON'T WANT TO FIGHT! They shouldn't have to drop everyone they were doing (or not doing) to deal with someone who could easily be dealt with by an admin.

At the JK3Files server, people are encouraged NOT to retaliate, because that often envolves laming on the retaliator's part, and the lamer has no idea that he is doing something not permitted by the server.

Squee-sithguy
12-09-2003, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by TK8252MJL
Well when servers start to get admin mods up, a joining player will be able to see the rules stated on the MOTD. So if a server has the rules stated in the MOTD, a joining player is expected to read this, and obey it.
I miss Jk2files server already :( , cant wait for JAR to have that, ...<_< >_> i hope it does :rolleyes:

TK-8252
12-09-2003, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by Squee-sithguy
cant wait for JAR to have that, ...<_< >_> i hope it does Yes, JAR has the MOTD. We're just waiting for cHoSeN oNe to get the damn linux version out!

g//plaZma
12-09-2003, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by TK8252MJL
True... see, these are the servers that give the honor code style servers a bad name. Sad, IMO.

Indeed. But the majority of honor servers are like this.

Well when servers start to get admin mods up, a joining player will be able to see the rules stated on the MOTD. So if a server has the rules stated in the MOTD, a joining player is expected to read this, and obey it.

Sure but not so long ago I was an admin for a clan server (g// when it was still around) and well, we had rules stated against running around calling people "lamers" and sitting around chatting. Yet, I still saw people running around calling eachother "lamers" and using the server as a virtual chatroom. That's honor people for you.

Well, if someone continues to break server rules, such as attacking players with their saber off, you can't just let them go about breaking the rule. Although cursing at a rule breaker is unacceptable.

This is why god invented the kick command and the usage of verbal warnings. Trust me when someone is breaking your honor code the last thing they want you to do to them is /ampunish, /amsleep or /amslap. That just gets them angry.

The reason someone wouldn't just go back and kill whoever lamed them is because THEY DON'T WANT TO FIGHT! They shouldn't have to drop everyone they were doing (or not doing) to deal with someone who could easily be dealt with by an admin.

Eh, sorry but in my experience with JK2/JA, people who get "lamed" tend to stalk the guy who "lamed" them while spamming their "OMG LAMER!!!!!!111111" bind everywhere. Anyways, I really do not see the point of connecting to a server if you don't want to play or "fight" as you describe it.

At the JK3Files server, people are encouraged NOT to retaliate, because that often envolves laming on the retaliator's part, and the lamer has no idea that he is doing something not permitted by the server.

In truth, the JK3/JK2Files.com server was one of the last servers I'd have expected to be so biased with this honor stuff until I connected to their server. It's like a poor man's The Sims Online redone StarWars style.

TK-8252
12-09-2003, 02:26 AM
Originally posted by g//plaZma
Indeed. But the majority of honor servers are like this. And it spreads like communism.

Originally posted by g//plaZma
we had rules stated against running around calling people "lamers" and sitting around chatting. Yet, I still saw people running around calling eachother "lamers" and using the server as a virtual chatroom. That's honor people for you. You had every right to kick them... they did not listen to server rules. Unless you wanted to keep 'em around for easy kills. ;)

Originally posted by g//plaZma
This is why god invented the kick command and the usage of verbal warnings. Trust me when someone is breaking your honor code the last thing they want you to do to them is /ampunish, /amsleep or /amslap. That just gets them angry. I am an anti-abuse person. I believe that NO admin should EVER cause damage to a player using powers that regular players could not get. Although, sleep is very needed. People just DO NOT listen to chat commands. Sleep is the only way to get someone's full attention. Plus, if you see a problem, you want to stop the problem before it gets any worse. Trust me on this - if you were an admin at an honor style server, you'd understand.

Originally posted by g//plaZma
Eh, sorry but in my experience with JK2/JA, people who get "lamed" tend to stalk the guy who "lamed" them while spamming their "OMG LAMER!!!!!!111111" bind everywhere. Anyways, I really do not see the point of connecting to a server if you don't want to play or "fight" as you describe it. Well those who try to get even are, IMO, just as bad. Like what the Clan [LC] server rules say: If someone has broken a rule please inform an admin right away. You are welcome to try and straighten out the problem, however disrespecting any rule in doing so is prohibited. (Example: If you are attacked with your saber down, telling the lamer what they did wrong is good sportsmanship. Going back and laming that person will be viewed as equally wrong and you will be dealt with as such.)

Originally posted by g//plaZma
In truth, the JK3/JK2Files.com server was one of the last servers I'd have expected to be so biased with this honor stuff until I connected to their server. It's like a poor man's The Sims Online redone StarWars style. Biased? I'm not sure I fully understand... :confused:

BTW, I think I'll post some screenshots soon of what goes on in the JK3Files server. Maybe it'll change your mind about us.

AxVegetA
12-09-2003, 04:02 AM
Ahh, the eternal jedi knight dilema.
So, people play JA to have fun.
There are mostly two ways of doing it, following server honor codes and not following them.
The problem here, between lamers and rpgers, is that both of them have very strong points to explain their acts. Both of them are absolutely sure, they are right and the others are wrong.

They are both right.

I mean, you can do whatever the **** u want, but you have to accept the consecuences of your acts. Its ok to lame but you will probably get kicked or baned.

What is wrong for sure is to force people to be the way u want them to be. Complaining is ok cause its a way of expresing your disaproval, but rules are rules, and **** are ****.

With time you balance your gameplay, and you learn when to lame and when to chat.


[Edit: Don't bother trying to dodge the profanity filter, k'thanks. ]

FK | unnamed
12-09-2003, 04:02 AM
I guess it all just comes down to how much of an anal retentive person you are, and how deep you are trying to immerse yourself in a fantasy world.


I play these games much in the same fashion that I would watch a television show or read a book.

It's just a form of entertainment for me, and the last thing I want to do is play a video game where I have to listen to a 12 year old playing the role of a "virtual hall monitor" while bitching and moaning about his stupid little fruity made up virtual world rules.

Rumor
12-09-2003, 04:53 AM
vegeta what happened to that challenge. i saw you in the [SiN] server and i gave you several mm1's and mm3's and you never responded. running scared?

o btw uj, just a fyi, jimmy's clan in cs raped sin horribly in a scrimmage.

MrDomin0
12-09-2003, 06:49 AM
I'm going to toss a monkey wrench in this conversation and argue the other side. Many of the servers you guys connect to are run by people. Yes they are made available to the gaming public, but as they are privately run the people that run it and by extension the regular crowd therein can do whatever the hell they deem to be normal in their servers. If you guys go in there and ruin everybody's fun, as foreign that concept may be to you, what do you expect? That they would make sweet passionate love to you? It's all well and good for you people to claim that they are whining about existing elements of the game, but the flipside of that is that you could stop whining about bad servers and try running your own for a while. It's really just a question of perspective.

I also really fail to see the problem with having honor in any form. I don't stab people in the back because that is the coward's way out. That's not some irrational "jedi" thing. As far as I am concerned anyway, all jedi except Sammy L. need to get their badass meters adjusted as it is. It's simply an ethical thing. You guys play as you want and let others play as they want.

In a sense I agree with the chatting thing and the options thing. It's like people who complain about getting killed while they are typing. The obvious solution is to stop typing in the line of fire. In the same sense though, if that is the algorythm of the server your on and you don't want to play nice, find another server where people don't play nice.

Rumor
12-09-2003, 03:33 PM
well thing is you people assume that we just saw people doing honor **** and decided to start invading servers. this is _not_ the case.

honor **** invaded every server bitching and complaining the entire time till they got every washed up nub to either 1. play their way or 2. pissed off everyone else.

after that we started going to honor servers and ones taht were run by the 12-year old admins on powertrips (99%) of them, we tore them up. simple as that.

MrDomin0
12-09-2003, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by Rumor
after that we started going to honor servers and ones taht were run by the 12-year old admins on powertrips (99%) of them, we tore them up. simple as that.

I see, so then you come here and complain about them complaining and kicking you out. That sounds a bit like pissing on something and then wondering why it smells like piss. Again, the obvious answer, find a server where there are no "honor ****," where there are specific rules against it, and play there.

Is ok if straight guys are honorable though? What about women?

I'm sorry, but the irony of your post made me laugh Rumor. You go on about how twelve-year olds are annoying by turning around and pasting a gradeschool insult on that same group. Is "fag" one of the three insults you use? Next to "jew" and "gay?" Am I a "jewbag" now for disagreeing with you? My my I can't count today, that's four insults.

All I'm saying is that it's a wide internet with a lot of odd people out there, and they have as much a right to do what they do as you do to do your own thing. So suck it up and move on.

AxVegetA
12-09-2003, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by Rumor
vegeta what happened to that challenge. i saw you in the [SiN] server and i gave you several mm1's and mm3's and you never responded. running scared?
What? SIN server? when was that?
My current online names are O2 and VegetA, both in light blue and white, and reborn blue skin, are u sure it was me?

If it was me, i am sorry and ill be pleased to duel you anytime. PM me to set a day/hour/server.

TK-8252
12-09-2003, 07:45 PM
Not all "honor style" servers are run by "fruity" 12 year olds, sorry to break it to you.

BTW, name calling is very immature and childish. Grow up, guys...

You don't see me calling people "geeks" or "fruity" or "fags" or "gay".

Squee-sithguy
12-09-2003, 08:56 PM
I totally agree with TK, ure acting like the childish people are the admins and the people that run the server when you are the ones that are childish, e.g. name calling like tk said, taking opinions as offending, and last but defenatly not least whining about it

Rumor
12-09-2003, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by AxVegetA
What? SIN server? when was that?
My current online names are O2 and VegetA, both in light blue and white, and reborn blue skin, are u sure it was me?

If it was me, i am sorry and ill be pleased to duel you anytime. PM me to set a day/hour/server.


it was a month or so ago and i saw your name (in white and cyan) and called your name many times and you never answer'd.

AxVegetA
12-10-2003, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by Rumor
it was a month or so ago and i saw your name (in white and cyan) and called your name many times and you never answer'd.

Well, its posible, when i ffaown i dont read a ****. So as i said, pm me with a day/hour/server.

Syzerian
12-10-2003, 08:07 AM
i usually play siege or duel on game arena cogs because there r no real lamers or over chatters.
but there is one problem with siege where there is this mole going around helping the other teams and well there is 3 of them now and its sort of annoying when the enemy wins in 2 minutes

Rumor
12-10-2003, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by AxVegetA
Well, its posible, when i ffaown i dont read a ****. So as i said, pm me with a day/hour/server.

you were chatting up a storm and getting your ass kicked by yours truly.

acdcfanbill
12-10-2003, 07:04 PM
Ive seen you as O2 on [SL] server ;) why dont u both pick a day meet there :p ppl are allowed to play on our server yes, we encourage it, check my sig :)

Kurgan
12-11-2003, 10:20 PM
What the "h0n0r d00dz" fail to realize is that The Default Condition of the Game is NON-HONOR!

Honor is not in the manual, readme or on official site.

Honor hasn't been sanctioned or promoted by the developers who made the game.

Honor, if followed, makes 99% of the tactics, gamemodes, powers and weapons in the game utterly useless and therefore 99% of the time and money the developers spent on JA is wasted.

Honor has nothing to do with Star Wars, since it is not evidenced in any of any of the canon of Star Wars.

Fact: "Honor Codes" are not a universal standard. They were made up by some video game players sometime after JK2 came out.


They also have a bad habit of invading servers and demanding that admins enforce their made up honor codes. I've had people join my server and demand I follow honor, to which I just laughed and told them to leave if they don't like playing the game how it was designed to be played.

Additionally, "h0n0r d00dz" like to abuse the "Vote-Kick" feature unfortunately present on many public servers to "punish" people who don't subscribe to the honor code they follow.

Example:

(Guy is killled while standing in the middle of the map chatting for the last 5 minutes).

Guy: OMG LAMER! YOU LAMED ME YOU ****ER! KICK HIM!!! *call vote to kick person who killed him*

Guys' Friends: KICK THE ****ING LAMER! *vote kicks the "lamer"*


This is petty and pathetic behavior. No "h0n0r d00d" has ever been able to satisfactorily explain why if they're not there to "compete" getting killed while they are standing there chatting or with their saber off it matters.

They also fail to explain why they can't simply go into spectator mode if they just want to "watch" or "chat." Or (heavens!) join a Dueling Server if that's all they want to do...

Finally, they fail to take responsibility for the fact that they were making themselves a juicy target in the first place by standing there when they they should have been paying attention.

If the "lamer" really has no skill at all (which they always claim) then surely getting 1 kill when the person wasn't paying attention shouldn't let them win. Yet they always try to get the guy kicked the instant they "lame" even once. Sounds more like poor sportsmanship to me.

The "h0n0r d00dz" seem overwhelmingly to be the poor sports, not the so-called "lamers."


"Lamers" are just playing the game the way it was meant to be played. The RPGers and Honor folks are the ones trying to change it. So its on THEM to explain to everyone how their system works and enforce it on their OWN servers, and not arrogantly assuming that everyone agrees with them except "lamers" (Ie: they assume if you disagree with them you're an idiot or rude).

Rumor
12-11-2003, 10:45 PM
haha kurgan nice double post ;) (yes it happens to us all morons, even admins and competitive players)

Rumor
12-11-2003, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by MrDomin0
I see, so then you come here and complain about them complaining and kicking you out. That sounds a bit like pissing on something and then wondering why it smells like piss. Again, the obvious answer, find a server where there are no "honor ****," where there are specific rules against it, and play there.

Is ok if straight guys are honorable though? What about women?

I'm sorry, but the irony of your post made me laugh Rumor. You go on about how twelve-year olds are annoying by turning around and pasting a gradeschool insult on that same group. Is "fag" one of the three insults you use? Next to "jew" and "gay?" Am I a "jewbag" now for disagreeing with you? My my I can't count today, that's four insults.

All I'm saying is that it's a wide internet with a lot of odd people out there, and they have as much a right to do what they do as you do to do your own thing. So suck it up and move on.

hello moron gay/fag/jew on the intarweb = STUPID or some variation 99% of the time.

btw thanks for takin the time to keep track of how many insults i've sent out today.

try a little dose of comprehension next time you post, thanks. (i wont quote it this time since i'm at school and i'm lazy).

having a low tolerance for stupidity at times is not comparable to someone insulting others for killing their avatar in a video game, tyvm.

/edit: invading of servers to enforce hon0rz is about as comparable as mw/sf invading our threads and derailing them intentionally.

This and more at 9. Thanks for watching.

TK-8252
12-12-2003, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by Kurgan
What the "h0n0r d00dz" fail to realize is that The Default Condition of the Game is NON-HONOR! Hmm... so then why was the "mods" menu created? The game was meant to be modded and changed. There is no rule that people MUST play the game EXACTLY AS IT WAS INTENDED for.

Originally posted by Kurgan
Honor is not in the manual, readme or on official site. ]TEH F***ING RAVEN SOFTWARE ARE TEH NOHONOR LAMER N00BZZZ!!! KICK TEH RAVEN SOFTWAER>!!!!!!11

So what? Is there some reason that people must play exactly how some book or website tells you?

Originally posted by Kurgan
Honor hasn't been sanctioned or promoted by the developers who made the game.

]TEH F***ING RAVEN SOFTWARE ARE TEH NOHONOR LAMER N00BZZZ!!! KICK TEH RAVEN SOFTWAER>!!!!!!11

So what? Is there some reason that people must play exactly how some guys at a company tell you to?

Originally posted by Kurgan
Honor, if followed, makes 99% of the tactics, gamemodes, powers and weapons in the game utterly useless and therefore 99% of the time and money the developers spent on JA is wasted. Raven Software got their money, that's all they're worried about...

Originally posted by Kurgan
Honor has nothing to do with Star Wars, since it is not evidenced in any of any of the canon of Star Wars. As I've said before, it's a multiplayer video game. This is not the Star Wars movies or a single player mission.

Originally posted by Kurgan
Fact: "Honor Codes" are not a universal standard. They were made up by some video game players sometime after JK2 came out. And look just how popular they are now.

Originally posted by Kurgan
They also have a bad habit of invading servers and demanding that admins enforce their made up honor codes. This is, truely a shame... :disaprove

Originally posted by Kurgan
Additionally, "h0n0r d00dz" like to abuse the "Vote-Kick" feature unfortunately present on many public servers to "punish" people who don't subscribe to the honor code they follow. Not all "h0n0r d00dz". Infact, I've never tried to vote-kick someone in my history of Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy. And I've never tried to push honor on people.

Originally posted by Kurgan
They also fail to explain why they can't simply go into spectator mode if they just want to "watch" or "chat." Or (heavens!) join a Dueling Server if that's all they want to do... People want to do a little of everything, not just constant FFA. A little of duelling, chatting, FFAing, RPing, spectating, wandering around doing nothing, etc. You can't really RP, duel, or FFA when you're in spectator mode... and if the server lets you wander around saber off and chat THEN YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO!

Originally posted by Kurgan
Finally, they fail to take responsibility for the fact that they were making themselves a juicy target in the first place by standing there when they they should have been paying attention. If the server has rules to "protect" a "juicy target" (meaning someone who's not fighting, just wondering around saber off) then they do not consider themselves a target at all. Therefore they do not expect to be attacked.

Originally posted by Kurgan
If the "lamer" really has no skill at all (which they always claim) then surely getting 1 kill when the person wasn't paying attention shouldn't let them win. Yet they always try to get the guy kicked the instant they "lame" even once. Sounds more like poor sportsmanship to me. One broken rule isn't enough to get someone kicked at my server...

Originally posted by Kurgan
The "h0n0r d00dz" seem overwhelmingly to be the poor sports, not the so-called "lamers." Partly true. Most "h0n0r d00dz" are like that, but not all. And there have been plenty of lamers who have wondered into the JK3Files server who aren't very polite themselves. One guy came in and broke our rules, including language rules... we tried to explain, but he just completely ignored. We kicked him, he came right back (with a different name). We told him that we knew it was just him, the IP explains it all. He just pretends that he's not the same person. Once he said: "Oh, I'm sorry... is this a no-laming server?" And then chat killed someone near by. He continued (all day) coming back with different names, causing trouble.

Originally posted by Kurgan
"Lamers" are just playing the game the way it was meant to be played. Not true. I believe that laming only exists on servers with an "honor code". If someone chat kills, or attacks someone with their saber off on a TRUE FFA server it's not laming.

Originally posted by Kurgan
The RPGers and Honor folks are the ones trying to change it. So sue them! Is there some law against having a different way of playing a game?

Originally posted by Kurgan
So its on THEM to explain to everyone how their system works and enforce it on their OWN servers, and not arrogantly assuming that everyone agrees with them except "lamers" This is how the "h0n0r d00dz" should function. Unfortunantly, many of those 12 year old punks don't just have enough sense.

Amidala from Chop Shop
12-12-2003, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by TK8252MJL
Not true. I believe that laming only exists on servers with an "honor code". If someone chat kills, or attacks someone with their saber off on a TRUE FFA server it's not laming.

My goodness TK, right you are, right you are!! Why can't other people who follow "honor codes" understand what you stated so clearly??!! Please explain it to them over and over again. Please make a chat bind and hit it every 5 minutes on your server.

So many "honor players" (and I put players inside the quotes because I'm not sure "wandering around doing nothing" as you put it qualifies as playing) think that "saber down = peace" is some kind of Universal Truth and Law that was on the back of those tablets Moses carried down from the mountain. Not true. You get it, please explain it to your comrades.

Oh well, thank goodness for xMod's profanity filter. The only words I have on my profanity list are f**k, n*g**r, and lamer, so no one on my servers needs to ever see those words again.

Oh, and I also added !kton and !loud, so killtracker spammers can't use their spam generators:amidala:

TK-8252
12-12-2003, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by Amidala from Chop Shop
Oh, and I also added !kton and !loud, so killtracker spammers can't use their spam generators:amidala: Well, the kill tracker automatically comes on when someone joins. Does censoring the words !kton and !loud work?

Also, the guys I hang around with know that honor and Yoda's Code of Conduct (whatever you wanna call it) are NOT universal. A server has a right to host whatever kind of gameplay they want.

Chuahtemoc
12-12-2003, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by kantaris

So, apparantly, a game, in which the purpose is to kill others, if you kill somebody with their saber down or their chat box up, it's unethical.

If you people want to chat, go on IRC, that's what it's for.

If you dont want to fight, then simply DON'T PLAY! It's not hard! I can't get a decent game in, because on most of the servers, you get kicked/banned for playing the game! If you use force powers alot, it's considered laming, and some of the time, you get a server kick. Gripping off a cliff is laming, using guns is laming (on a gun server too!)

I agree. I'm not actually going to say a word pertaining to the subject at hand, namely because, I believe, this topic has been ranted about all too much. But I still agree. :band: :p


edit - well, I can't NOT bitch about something, so i'll bitch about "laming." Who the FLYING F*CK came up with that word? Jesssssssus it should be friggin banned from existence! goddamnit everywhere I go, everything I do, if I get a kill, I'm automatically a lamer. If I get a great thermal det throw, I'm spammer thermal detonators, therefore I am a lamer. If I kill f*cking idiots waiting in line to DUEL on a motherf*cking FFA server, I'm a lamer. Sh*t, if somebody walks off a cliff of their own accord, I'm a lamer. Someday, I'm just gonna track down one of these ratbastards who uses that words and I will beat him to a pulp, lol :p :cool:

:rofl: Hey mods i'm sorry bout my language. I just needed to bitch about people using the woord lamer.

MrDomin0
12-12-2003, 02:38 AM
Originally posted by Rumor
hello moron gay/fag/jew on the intarweb = STUPID or some variation 99% of the time.

btw thanks for takin the time to keep track of how many insults i've sent out today.

try a little dose of comprehension next time you post, thanks. (i wont quote it this time since i'm at school and i'm lazy).

having a low tolerance for stupidity at times is not comparable to someone insulting others for killing their avatar in a video game, tyvm.

/edit: invading of servers to enforce hon0rz is about as comparable as mw/sf invading our threads and derailing them intentionally.

This and more at 9. Thanks for watching.

Again, I have to laugh at the irony of what you just posted. You claim very clearly that it is alright to kill a video game avatar (I'm with you there) presumably because it is the digital world and is therefore insignificant. Of course though, several sentences earlier you seem to claim that it is alright for the same digital world to pervert the english language. Just because a bunch of little boys who never grew up launch a tired rolodex of 50 year old insults seems inadequate reason to me to change the laws of language around.

I'm going to toss an idea out there, maybe instead of asking others to work on personal comprehension you should think about what you're typing. You'd be surprised how well that works in real life too.

Which reminds me, I should probably introduce you to what we adults call the real world. In the real world ignorance is frowned upon. For example, lodging numbers into words? Not big in the real world. Forgetting to capitalize the word "I?" Not a popular seller in the real world. You see, here's the funny thing, when you go around claiming that someone is a moron you should probably do what you can to not come of as an equal shade of moron, it kind of makes you look silly.

And to clarify, I never said that any form of server invasion was fine. It's ridiculous. The argument works both ways. You could sacrifice virtual goats in a server for all I care, just don't get in other people's business. In case you haven't picked it up yet, most online games have this problem or something like it. Why? Because the world is full of idiots with time on their hands. Which is why you go find a good server and play there rather than whining on about it. Viola! Problem solved.

Rumor
12-12-2003, 05:00 AM
Again, I have to laugh at the irony of what you just posted. You claim very clearly that it is alright to kill a video game avatar (I'm with you there) presumably because it is the digital world and is therefore insignificant. Of course though, several sentences earlier you seem to claim that it is alright for the same digital world to pervert the english language. Just because a bunch of little boys who never grew up launch a tired rolodex of 50 year old insults seems inadequate reason to me to change the laws of language around.


According to British scholars, American English is a perversion in and of itself.

Wake up and smell the coffee, this is the internet, not a job interview or a term paper. I will "pervert" the English language any way i see fit, as it is casual, and informal. Even in English class they teach you that such things as slang are more than acceptable. Also, if i really wanted to i would type like this, but then I am in the spirit of saving time, so i shall refrain from doing so and type as fast as i can, only correcting what i see fit.

I'm going to toss an idea out there, maybe instead of asking others to work on personal comprehension you should think about what you're typing. You'd be surprised how well that works in real life too.

Again, this is the internet, Not a job interview or a term paper. You should actually think about your own posts first.

Oh, and by the way, have you attempted to derail any good threads lately? No? Well you are trying pretty hard on this one.

If you wish to debate with or criticize me, take it to my clan boards where you won't disrupt the normal flow of a good topic with faintly veiled flames. Unlike other clans we won't edit or ban you because of your views. www.kaoticz.com is the address, you are more than welcome to flame me to your heart's content there, but do not derail this thread over nitpicking something that is over and donewith, nor for casual typing on a message board.

Which reminds me, I should probably introduce you to what we adults call the real world. In the real world ignorance is frowned upon. For example, lodging numbers into words? Not big in the real world. Forgetting to capitalize the word "I?" Not a popular seller in the real world. You see, here's the funny thing, when you go around claiming that someone is a moron you should probably do what you can to not come of as an equal shade of moron, it kind of makes you look silly.


Yes and "h0n0r d00dz" is a real-world term. :rolleyes: If you were so concerned you would be breathing down the neck of everyone here.

I don't feel like repeating myself yet again, so i'll just quote myself (because my ego is huge, and because you have offended my honour :rolleyes: ):

Wake up and smell the coffee, this is the internet, not a job interview or a term paper. I will "pervert" the English language any way i see fit, as it is casual, and informal. Even in English class they teach you that such things as slang are more than acceptable. Also, if i really wanted to i would type like this, but then I am in the spirit of saving time, so i shall refrain from doing so and type as fast as i can, only correcting what i see fit.

Are we clear on that yet?

And to clarify, I never said that any form of server invasion was fine. It's ridiculous. The argument works both ways. You could sacrifice virtual goats in a server for all I care, just don't get in other people's business. In case you haven't picked it up yet, most online games have this problem or something like it. Why? Because the world is full of idiots with time on their hands. Which is why you go find a good server and play there rather than whining on about it. Viola! Problem solved.

My typing method is none of your business either. It is readily understandable and that is what counts.

Keep trolling along all you like, but i will not respond or reply here.

AxVegetA
12-12-2003, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by Rumor
you were chatting up a storm and getting your ass kicked by yours truly.

Wtf is that suposed to mean? i dont understand english very well.
As i said set a ****ing date.

Rumor
12-12-2003, 06:09 AM
Originally posted by Rumor
We challenged you months ago. You never responded.

Rad Blackrose
12-12-2003, 06:25 AM
Oh well, thank goodness for xMod's profanity filter. The only words I have on my profanity list are f**k, n*g**r, and lamer, so no one on my servers needs to ever see those words again.

Well, tonight I was on the Chop Shop for a brief period... Managed to run into one of the fanbois.

The funny thing was he spoke incoherently. It was just a bunch of words strung together. Perfect, time to use the age old quote...

English mother****er, speak it?

Now I know why it was garbled.

Anyways... Just a brief word.

Raven Software has no honor.

This and more at 10 o'clock, after Rumor is dead for stealing my trademark. That's right, you're getting capped in an alleyway... Kicking and screaming preferably.

;)

Rumor
12-12-2003, 06:31 AM
Originally posted by Rad Blackrose

This and more at 10 o'clock, after Rumor is dead for stealing my trademark. That's right, you're getting capped in an alleyway... Kicking and screaming preferably.

;)

All is fair in love and war. This is certainly not war.

Bsides plaz uses mine all the time like "e-life" and "e-wellbeing" not to mention the definitions (which many have emulated *cough* marker *cough*).

_PerfectAgent_
12-12-2003, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by TK8252MJL
Well, the kill tracker automatically comes on when someone joins. Does censoring the words !kton and !loud work?
Yeah, it tracks all the chats you make, not what you type. So if you are unable to create !kton or !loud in a chat, then it will not work. But I'm not sure about the keeping from starting automatically thing...

There is a similar scheme that someone can control another's kill tracker. Just rename yourself to that persons name and do all the commands! You can even control the other person's music!

TK-8252
12-12-2003, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by _PerfectAgent_
There is a similar scheme that someone can control another's kill tracker. Just rename yourself to that persons name and do all the commands! You can even control the other person's music! LOL! :lol:

You could probably kill yourself over and over and over, screwing their kill to death ratio!

Kill trackers are eeeeeevil!!!

Kurgan
12-12-2003, 11:20 PM
Well since this topic was basically run its course, I'm closing it. You can issue more challenges and such in the Clans forum or through Private Messages.