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Jedi Luke

12-31-2003, 12:08 AM

Yeah I haven't even heard half those movies either. You know why Rotk is in 10th place? Cos it's not an american movie. That's gotta be the reason. Why else would it be in 10th? If these other movies are supposed to be good, then why haven't I heard of half of em?

wassup

12-31-2003, 12:20 AM

It got into the Top 10, that is not that bad, though I agree it should be a little further up in the list. LOTR is just too epic, too much, and too "far-fetched" for some (including this reviewer), and perhaps he couldn't handle it all. The other films are not at all bad, in fact they are good, dramatic films from what I've heard. Yes, he has a different opinion and look on things, but that's cause he is human, and you can relish the fact that in your own mind LOTR delivers major a$$-wompage.

Originally posted by Jedi Luke
Yeah I haven't even heard half those movies either. You know why Rotk is in 10th place? Cos it's not an american movie. That's gotta be the reason. Why else would it be in 10th? If these other movies are supposed to be good, then why haven't I heard of half of em?

That is because the ones you haven't heard of weren't massively advertised like LOTR, Bad Santa, etc. Also, what do you mean by an American movie? LOTR was released by New Line, which is a subgroup of AOL Time Warner, which I believe is a largely American company. Also some of the directors in the movies listed were not American, though many were.

IG-64

12-31-2003, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by Jedi Luke
Yeah I haven't even heard half those movies either. You know why Rotk is in 10th place? Cos it's not an american movie. That's gotta be the reason. Why else would it be in 10th? If these other movies are supposed to be good, then why haven't I heard of half of em?

I was thinking the same thing, kind of like how they only follow the story for like 2 seconds and then go on to the stupid landslides in california, y'know the story of the earthquake it Iran that killed 30,000 people. It makes me sick, if that was in america they would be following that story like a magnet, every little person, there would be families giving thier hertbreaking stories, but noooo, it's in Iran so we have "Well america is helping the people in Iran. Now back to the tragic story of the california landslides where a shocking 12 people are presumed dead." not like a don't care if 12 full human beings lost thier lives, but c'mon shouldn't the tables be turned?

gorganfloss

12-31-2003, 12:29 AM

In the number one spot it's "All the Real Girls" and those girls can kiss my shiny metal ass.

The one thing I don't get though, is why they say Return of the King is the weakest in the trilogy...and by god, if only there were more battle scenes I would have been in heaven. Atheist heaven anyway.

wassup

12-31-2003, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by gorganfloss
The one thing I don't get though, is why they say Return of the King is the weakest in the trilogy...and by god, if only there were more battle scenes I would have been in heaven. Atheist heaven anyway.

Quote from the LOTR part of the article:

"...there are too many endings and perhaps too many battle scenes..."

Which I concur is quite true, especially for the majority of viewers like this reviewer who are not as knowledgable in Tolkien's works. Oh well, at least we can cherish the cinema greatness that is LOTR.

Pie™

12-31-2003, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by IG-64
I was thinking the same thing, kind of like how they only follow the story for like 2 seconds and then go on to the stupid landslides in california, y'know the story of the earthquake it Iran that killed 30,000 people. It makes me sick, if that was in america they would be following that story like a magnet, every little person, there would be families giving thier hertbreaking stories, but noooo, it's in Iran so we have "Well america is helping the people in Iran. Now back to the tragic story of the california landslides where a shocking 12 people are presumed dead." not like a don't care if 12 full human beings lost thier lives, but c'mon shouldn't the tables be turned? agreed. only here in norway theres even smaller things that make headlines, like "the singer blah has gotten the flu! blah blah blah!"for 50 pages, and in a little box on the backside it says "middle east sunk to the bottom of the ocean... all its inhabitants are dead.
Ok, that was a small exagguration (sp?), but you get the picture... GOD I HATE TABLOIDS :mad: (and i dont even believe in god :p )
I rest my case. :D

wassup

12-31-2003, 12:51 AM

In my perspective, the media is driven by money, profit, etc. If can be expected then that they will report things closer to home and affecting their viewers more than other news in order to attract more people and money to their networks. Yes, it is unfair, unbalanced, whether you hate it or like it, but what can you expect?

IG-64

12-31-2003, 01:10 AM

"Too many endings". There was only one ending, they just put transitions between scenes to wrap it up, very great scenes I might add, also, remember this? "Fellowship and Two Towers both had bad, unfinished, endings" make up your freakin mind.

And if "Too many battle scenes" ruins the beautiful experience of this movie then you must be insane. Oh, and does anyone remember Braveheart?

Spare me your cheap excuses and exept the truth, LotR is far greater, not to mention far more popular for good reason than your weak little "Good ol' American love stories" just let it go.

gorganfloss

12-31-2003, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by IG-64

Spare me your cheap excuses and exept the truth, LotR is far greater, not to mention far more popular for good reason than your weak little "Good ol' American love stories" just let it go.

Hey, you brought it up, Jimmy. 'Twas you.

And there could never be enough stuff in Lord of the Rings movies. Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever.

Ever.

RoxStar

12-31-2003, 01:28 AM

Lets give them a huge E-mail from all of the members here at good ol' Lucasforums and we can set their bribed minds staight.

Jedi Luke

12-31-2003, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by IG-64
I was thinking the same thing, kind of like how they only follow the story for like 2 seconds and then go on to the stupid landslides in california, y'know the story of the earthquake it Iran that killed 30,000 people. It makes me sick, if that was in america they would be following that story like a magnet, every little person, there would be families giving thier hertbreaking stories, but noooo, it's in Iran so we have "Well america is helping the people in Iran. Now back to the tragic story of the california landslides where a shocking 12 people are presumed dead." not like a don't care if 12 full human beings lost thier lives, but c'mon shouldn't the tables be turned?

Exactly. Thank-you IG-64. I guarantee if Lord of the Rings was produced in America, it'd be number 1 for sure.

Originally posted by wassup
Quote from the LOTR part of the article:

"...there are too many endings and perhaps too many battle scenes..."

Which I concur is quite true, especially for the majority of viewers like this reviewer who are not as knowledgable in Tolkien's works. Oh well, at least we can cherish the cinema greatness that is LOTR.

Too many endings? There is only ONE ending. All the events in the Rotk were as it happened in the book.

ZBomber

12-31-2003, 01:36 AM

Dave McCoy can suck Rhett's hairy elf balls! :p

LOTR shoulda been number 1. Even I knew that.....

IG-64

12-31-2003, 01:37 AM

Sorry, I was just screaming at the guy that wrote the reveiw to let go of his stupid love stories, and wassup, I don't think he meant it wasn't made by americans, I belive he meant it wasn't set in America, it was set in Middle Earth, if he meant the former, then, ya there were some american directors and new line but it's pretty much a New Zealand made movie, Peter Jackson is from New Zealand, i'm not completely sure but I think Weta is a New Zealand team too, and most of the orcs are from New Zealand and most of the actors are from London.

wassup

12-31-2003, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by IG-64
Spare me your cheap excuses and exept the truth, LotR is far greater, not to mention far more popular for good reason than your weak little "Good ol' American love stories" just let it go.

Popularity does not mean quality. Yes, LOTR is a great, great movie/trilogy, but I'm betting you haven't seen many of the other movies listed there. Give them a chance, and perhaps after seeing them they will change your mind about rankings. Perhaps...

Yikes, I've posted way too much today...

IG-64

12-31-2003, 01:51 AM

Actually, I did read them trying to figure out why they got higher than LotR, I am completely discusted by bad santa's pick as #5

Big Fish looks ok and some of the other ones. Don't get me wrong i'm sure they're good movies to watch but when it comes right down to the quality, the beauty, perfection, storylines, plotlines, characters, acting, and drama (yes, drama) LotR is not to be blemished, and they should take this into accout.

Sam Fisher

12-31-2003, 02:01 AM

Geeze, RoTK, is all about the BATTLES. Its the end of the the books, I see no problems with all the battles, that's how it was in the book. And 'too many endings' is just weird, there is the two 'endings; when Aragons stays in Gonsor, and when Frodo, Gandalf, and Bilbo leave for Valinor(sp?)

Redwing

12-31-2003, 02:06 AM

Only heard of three of those movies, and only seen one - Return of the King - so...I guess I can't comment.

Okay, one comment -

his final installment of the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy is the weakest

Eh? I would've said it was at least the second best - just under Fellowship, better than TTT (which gets the short end of the stick for no epic beginning and ending ;)) - but never mind my personal rankings, everyone else (by which I mean critics) seemed to agree it was the best of the trilogy. Interesting...

edit: By "too many endings" I bet they're referring to the five times the film faded to black at the end - and the fact that any one of those five(?) scenes could have been a beautiful ending for it. ;)

IG-64

12-31-2003, 02:44 AM

Tell me, truthfully, without a shred of a doubt: "Each and everyone of those nine movies, indivdually are overall better movies than The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King"

Now before you say anything, put this into perspective, a ninth of this declaration alone is strictly stating truthfully, and without doubts that "Bad Santa is a better movie, overall than The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King"

now, do you all see the utter stupidity of these reviews?

CapNColostomy

12-31-2003, 04:58 AM

Eh, it's only opinion. Nobody should take offense to it. We all know opinions are like *******s. Everyone has one, and they usually stink.

STTCT

12-31-2003, 05:55 AM

Those landslides happened only a few miles from where I live. Its pretty awful - and I also feel for Iran. :( It all makes me cry.

SkinWalker

12-31-2003, 06:54 AM

I saw "In America" and have to say it was better than LoTR. In fact, I thought it deserved to be better than 9th place.

You guys should see some of those movies before you pass judgement. I've heard of most of them (read/listened to reviews) and have seen a couple. They're well made and not after the commercial "sure-thing" of the action/thriller formula. These are the types of movies that will last the test of time because they actually tell a story (which is why LoTR is in the list).

Don't be wusses! Go see them (hint: take a chick, pretend it's your idea, they'll think it's romantic)!

Jared

12-31-2003, 07:14 AM

Lost in Translation was a very good movie, it should have been number 4 like it was, but lotr rotk was by far number one, or at least number 2.

number ten my ass.

what the hell is 'all the real girls?' how did that get number one?

what strange......old.....woman decided to write that as number one 1?

as far as Bad Santa, thats what I call a christmas movie ^^

and big fish was a good movie, I liked it.

as far as the others go I have never heard of them.

IG-64

12-31-2003, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by SkinWalker
I saw "In America" and have to say it was better than LoTR. In fact, I thought it deserved to be better than 9th place.

You guys should see some of those movies before you pass judgement. I've heard of most of them (read/listened to reviews) and have seen a couple. They're well made and not after the commercial "sure-thing" of the action/thriller formula. These are the types of movies that will last the test of time because they actually tell a story (which is why LoTR is in the list).

Don't be wusses! Go see them (hint: take a chick, pretend it's your idea, they'll think it's romantic)!

But LotR was so massive and awsome :( and I don't have time, money, or even transportation to go to a bunch of movies :( and I don't have a girlfriend... well I don't really care about that last one but all i'm trying to say is that lotr sould've been at least in the top 5. But IMO alone I think it should've been #1

ExcelsioN

12-31-2003, 08:34 AM

I've never heard of ANY of these except LOTR:ROTK. I can't even remember if any of the other ones were released over here. Which I doubt very much.

I say we do our own list.

IG-64

12-31-2003, 08:43 AM

ok,

1. LotR: RotK
2. Matrix Revolutions
3. X-men 2
4. Pirates of the Carribean

and, well Matrix reloaded sucked IMO

terminator III, and the last samurai I never saw so I can't say anything about them

CapNColostomy

12-31-2003, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by IG-64
ok,

2. Matrix Revolutions

and, well Matrix reloaded sucked IMO

WHAT?!?!?! Reloaded was WAAAY better than Revolutions, imho anyway. And T3 sucked weiners.

Mex

12-31-2003, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by IG-64
But LotR was so massive and awsome :( and I don't have time, money, or even transportation to go to a bunch of movies :( and I don't have a girlfriend... well I don't really care about that last one but all i'm trying to say is that lotr sould've been at least in the top 5. But IMO alone I think it should've been #1

There are many movies better than LotR so why can't you just accept that?

I hate LF, you're all LotR nerds. :indif:

IG-64

12-31-2003, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by CapNColostomy
WHAT?!?!?! Reloaded was WAAAY better than Revolutions, imho anyway. And T3 sucked weiners.

well, I guess I just couldn't make it through the long, boring, annoying scenes

ExcelsioN

12-31-2003, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by Michaelmexp
There are many movies better than LotR so why can't you just accept that?

I hate LF, you're all LotR nerds. :indif:

Well thats just great

You're not the only one who hates LotR. My dad hates it because its fantasy.

Is it because you associate it with Dungeons and Dragons (D&D)? Which, by the way, is really really boring.

wassup

12-31-2003, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by Excelsion
Is it because you associate it with Dungeons and Dragons (D&D)? Which, by the way, is really really boring.

The D&D movie is crap, but the game is not bad, and can be quite fun with a group of enthusiatic friends.

Originally posted by IG-64
But LotR was so massive and awsome

Yes it is, but sometimes the good things come in small packages. :p
Take Galadriel's statement to Frodo in FOTR, where she said: "Even the smallest person can change the course of the future."
That can be intepreted as: "Even the smallest thing can change the course of one's mind."
So, go watch those films, and your mind could be changed...or not. Your choice.

Jed

12-31-2003, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by Michaelmexp
...you're all LotR nerds. :indif:

Finally, someone who won't burn me at the stake for not even taking the time to see LotR :p

Really, I don't get the fuss....I agree with Skin, really, some of those movies were pretty good....

And don't you people DARE call me a chick-flick fan. I'll flatten ya. :|

Jared

12-31-2003, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by Jed
chick-flick fan

*points*

^^

hey i'm a chick flick fan, I really don't care.
besides its helps to like what they like anyway.

Semicolon

12-31-2003, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by IG-64
just... just go here (http://entertainment.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=144439)

these people are the biggest idiots

Just goes to show you everyone has their own opinions....

Tyrion

12-31-2003, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Jed
And don't you people DARE call me a chick-flick fan. I'll flatten ya. :|

*points and laughs*

*-as a pancake*

IG-64

12-31-2003, 08:48 PM

Noboby likes LotR... My happy little world is shattered... :cry6:

El Sitherino

12-31-2003, 09:20 PM

I like LoTR but it's crap compared to Star Wars:OT :).

EMPIRE RULES!

anyway, I really liked lost in translation, fun movie to watch with a girl *winks to skinwalker*(though I missed a few parts while... uhmmm I just tell ya I wasn't paying full attention at parts... of the movie mind you ;)

Samurai = no. 1
I guess I'm biased since I just happen to admire and adore samurai and all things about them, they are fascinating.

Pirates = no.2
It's funny and it smells of Errol Flynn inspiration!:D
not to mention.... JOHNNY DEPP!

Lost in Translation= no.3
Most kick-ass Bill Murray movie... EVER!! (yes even beats out caddyshack... well except for the pot joke part)

LoTR: ROTK = no.4
Just a beautiful transfer from book to screen. :)
The battle scenes were wonderful, I just wish there were more!

Somethings gotta give = no. 5
Jack Nicholson and Diane Keaton... purely hilarious and touching.

CarzMellon

01-01-2004, 04:20 AM

Hey, IG-64, thanks for showing me that I'm not the only one who thinks the top ten list is screwed up.

CarzMellon

01-01-2004, 04:24 AM

My personal list of best films of 2003:

1) Return of the King
2) Pirates of the Caribbean
3) The Last Samorai (Geez, I can't even spell it right:mad: )
4) Something's Gotta Give

The LAST movie I'd put on this list is Matrix Revolutions....

Semicolon

01-01-2004, 05:02 AM

Originally posted by CarzMellon
The LAST movie I'd put on this list is Matrix Revolutions....

Yeah i here you there...Quite a dissapointement for me anyhow...I still don't understand the whole thing...Bah guess i'll be renting it when it goes DVD.... I don't know if Pirates was that good...At least not to be asscoiated with RoTK in the same sentence...