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Sherack Nhar
01-04-2004, 12:22 PM
It's 8:40 in the morning right now and I just stopped playing Knights of the Old Republic for... uhh... actually I completely lost track of time.

What day are we today? I know I played all night, but I don't remember when I started playing. Was it yesterday? In the afternoon, or morning... can't remember for the life of me.

I think I've been playing for 12 hours straight, at least. This is the first time I've ever done something like that, as far as I can remember... Although my memory's a little hazy right now >_>

I love this game. Fell in love with the characters, all of them. Sure, Bastila comes off as a b*tch at first but the more you see her grow, and let her share her story, and the more you get attached to her. It's downright scary.

And Mission! Such a lovely girl. I seem to be the only one not treating her like a kid! Oh and HK-47 is so funny. Gah let's not start naming them all, they're all worthy of being mentionned. Except maybe the beeping droid. He's kinda just 'there' >_>

BTW guys, if you're gonna reply with spoilers about the game, don't forget to tag them... Cause I'm not finished with it yet, and I certainly don't wanna get anything spoiled.

Not sure what to do now... it's too late to go to bed. Maybe I'll take a walk outside today, that should clear my head a little.

Billy Shears
01-04-2004, 01:40 PM
OMG I know EXACTLY what you mean. I'm suffering from the same illness as well, but I managed to keep it at bay and go to sleep last night. I played the ENTIRE DAY yesterday, and I'm restraining myself from even looking at the CD case, in fear that I might go into a relapse. I've got homework to do today. :(

Tie Guy
01-04-2004, 03:58 PM
Yeah, i just picked up an Xbox after christmas and have been playing it for several days straight. I just finished, and while i was a little dissapointed the ending flick wasn't better, the story was perfectly good. I absolutely loved it.


Anyways, i don't know what you do and don't know, but i'm really curious how they will accomplish one of the major plotlines with a girl lead PC. I think i'm gonna play it again, just to see what happens. Also, i went lightside first, so i really want to go dark side on everyone and wreak some serious havoc. ;)

Zygomaticus
01-04-2004, 06:18 PM
I planned to go Call of Duty before KOTOR, but have got neither game yet. :mad:

But glad to see you're "enjoying" yourself, Sherack. :D

lukeiamyourdad
01-04-2004, 09:24 PM
I know what you mean. I haven't left my PC for two weeks now...I'm in my 4th consecutive run of the game.
I sleep at 1:00 and wake up at 8:00 just to play. It's been two weeks...

I'm starting to look like Gollum...

The ending cinematic:

I have to agree that the ending cinematic ain't that, great. I was expecting a huge cinematic la Return of The Jedi Special Edition where you see so many people celebrating.

Tie Guy: A girl PC isn't very different from a male PC. The story is pretty much the same. Only this time Carth keeps hitting on you instead of Bastila. Oh and every guy you come across hits on you too.
There's also a subtle difference if you're playing as a scoundrel. People tend to trust a female character more then a male while people react better to the threats of a male character(but you don't really need to be a scoundrel for that).

I don't know where you are at in the game Sherack, but I can openly say that this game has the greatest plot twist since Vader admits to Luke that he's his father. It's THAT surprising.

Darth Homer
01-04-2004, 11:35 PM
I've had the game since it's release for xbox, played both sides male and female and the dark side ending is awesome. Tons better than the light ending. :D

Sherack Nhar
01-05-2004, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad
I don't know where you are at in the game Sherack, but I can openly say that this game has the greatest plot twist since Vader admits to Luke that he's his father. It's THAT surprising. Yeah I'm past that... Unfortunately Rhett spoiled that surprise for me a few months back :P

Tie Guy
01-05-2004, 01:30 AM
But how can Revan be a girl? That just ain't right.


Anyways, i'm on my second run through at the moment, playing as a female scout who's a major gunslinger. Scoundrel doesn't sound all that appealing to me. I'd rather just beat down everyone i meet rather than sneak around. ;)

IG-64
01-05-2004, 08:50 AM
*peers at KotoR box across the desk, a tear rolls down his cheek*

just a week and a half buddy, and i'll have my new computer... *sniff*... :cry8:

swphreak
01-05-2004, 10:13 AM
Yea, when I was sick for a few days, I was playing Kotor nonstop. Only to sleep, eat, and occasional bathroom. I've beat it once with Dark Sid, but I did it so fast that my charater had sucky moves and I did no subplots. I'm doing it again but slower and taking my time.

DarthMuffin
01-05-2004, 12:50 PM
@ Tie Guy : Of course a girl can be Revan. Why not? Revan wears a mask all the time, so you can't really know until Bastila tells you.

I know what you mean Sherack :D

This game is really addicting. I never played non-stop for 12 hours during the night, but maybe something like 6 hours during the day. The only other game I could play many hours like this one was Diablo II (but that was some time ago, when doing the quests was actually fun).

As for the ending ....
Yeah, it wasn't that good. What I miss is an epilogue like in BG2 or HotU, where they tell you what happens to all the characters in your party. Also, there's like nobody on that planet... they should have given me my medal on coruscant :mad: I'll have to check the DS ending, but I can't stand to hurt people around me :(

IG-64
01-05-2004, 12:53 PM
I've been sick since christmas, and all i've been doing is posting on LF, it wore off a few days ago though, but I still have a cough.

DarthMuffin
01-05-2004, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by IG-64
I've been sick since christmas, and all i've been doing is posting on LF, it wore off a few days ago though, but I still have a cough.

:eek:

There are so few good topics around here... You must have taken over the whole swamps and Aresen :rolleyes:

Clefo
01-05-2004, 01:07 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tie Guy
[B]But how can Revan be a girl? That just ain't right.


There's no reason that Revan can't be a girl, I mean, we believe in equal rights and all that good stuff. Besides, one can argue that women are MORE evil than men ;) '

I'm on my second try through at the moment. I am a scout instead of a Soldier, but I'll try to do light side one more time. THIRD time through, I'll be a darkie.

IG-64
01-05-2004, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by Darth54
:eek:

There are so few good topics around here... You must have taken over the whole swamps and Aresen :rolleyes:

Indeed (http://server5.uploadit.org/files2/241203-sad.JPG)

But don't talk about it too much, Its a very dangerous subject.

Tie Guy
01-05-2004, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by Clefo
Besides, one can argue that women are MORE evil than men ;) '


Oh, they definately are, especially my character. :D

Eets
01-05-2004, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by Tie Guy
Oh, they definately are, especially my character. :D

Hehehehe, sounds like my new character. ^_^

She's definitely a royal bitch.

darthfergie
01-05-2004, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by IG-64
Indeed (http://server5.uploadit.org/files2/241203-sad.JPG)

But don't talk about it too much, Its a very dangerous subject.

O_o
wow...I used to do that back in the day...heck everyone did it back in the day...but I found that IM is a bit more satisfying and enjoying life is even more (I know that last comment was a bit like sacrilege on the boards...sry! forgive me!)

Sam Fisher
01-06-2004, 12:59 PM
Hmm, for the first 3 weeks that my we had it, my brother would not even let me touch the CD :eek:

But it has gotten really boring, no mods or anything... :(

Sherack Nhar
01-07-2004, 03:27 AM
Well I gotta agree with you guys, the light side ending is kinda disappointing. In fact, the last stages of the game seemed rushed. (e.g. the last two locations you visit). I didn't like how they simply dismissed the characters after they had no more use (especially Carth; his development comes to a sudden and complete stop right after you free his son).

Still a great game though. I'm looking forward to play with the dark side. But first, I have to give some time to the other RPGs that I have, like HotU and Ogre Battle 64 :D

STTCT
01-07-2004, 06:44 AM
I finished JA one determined day - you guys are going to kill me but I own both Call of Duty and KOTOR and I haven't been able to play either of them. Well KOTOR some - not very far. I haven't even seen this Bastilla. Anyway - there are just not enough hours in the day. I've started school again (the class that was full - someone dropped and I can add it tomorrow) its 6 weeks of hell. And work is installing this new software program into our warehouse so there's all kinds of OT and training. Its insane.

lukeiamyourdad
01-07-2004, 08:18 PM
That really sucks. Not finding time for KOTOR...

Anyway, Sherack, if you're playing a female character, after you save his son, there's actually more character development. If you,re playing a male character it simply ends there.

Sherack Nhar
01-07-2004, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad
That really sucks. Not finding time for KOTOR...

Anyway, Sherack, if you're playing a female character, after you save his son, there's actually more character development. If you,re playing a male character it simply ends there. Yeah, but if you're playing a female, you don't get the love story with Balista, so it's a tradeoff. Besides that was only one example; another one would be Canderous or HK-47.

lukeiamyourdad
01-08-2004, 01:45 AM
Well you get a love story with Carth although there's no kissing scene and it only goes as far as an "I love you" and an "I love you too".

As for HK-47, I don't think he needs any character development 'cause he's just a droid. A sidequest with him would be...weird.

And Canderous...well that's how far it goes I guess. I wish there would be more like he really starts to change his ways and becomes a nice guy(instead of being dark, he's light).

But however, Jolee and Juhani are just as bad. Jolee gets only a sidequest where he isn't really involved in it other then he's a friend of the guy you're supposed to defend in a trial.
With Juhani face off with the guy who kills her father and that's about it...

Anyway, the character development is already tremendous so I guess askin for more would be pretty impossible...until KOTOR2 :D

STTCT
01-08-2004, 08:57 AM
No hot love with Carth - I'm very dissapointed. Whats the point?


j/k :D

Sivy
01-08-2004, 11:40 AM
i'm on my second game and this time i'm doing it darkside style. i keep feeling guilty about some if the stuff you have to do. its hard to keep doing evil things. :D

Sherack Nhar
01-08-2004, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad
As for HK-47, I don't think he needs any character development 'cause he's just a droid. A sidequest with him would be...weird.

[...]

Anyway, the character development is already tremendous so I guess askin for more would be pretty impossible...until KOTOR2 :D HK-47 does have character development o_o Didn't you try to restore his memory? It's just too bad that it stops after the big plot twist.

You can always ask for more. I've seen games where the character development was better, so why not kotor too? :D

Darth Homer
01-08-2004, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by Siv
i'm on my second game and this time i'm doing it darkside style. i keep feeling guilty about some if the stuff you have to do. its hard to keep doing evil things. :D

Wuss...hehe :p

I somehow found it fun to do those things and hard to keep being nice to people...especially when they were overly whiney about needing help.

Esp the geezer in the underworld (forget his name) that had been searching for his father's & grandfather's journals forall his life and couldn't find them, you walk around the sewers for 20 mins and have 'em all. didn't look very hard, didja? I would understand a little more if they'd all been protected by the rancor, but nope, most were near the surface and I assume that only the rakgouls were there for that long a time (piggies, aka Gammorreans, came later).

Sivy
01-13-2004, 11:25 AM
well i've finished now both light and dark... the darkside ending is cool.

its quite amusing killing people for no reason whatsoever, like they say "hello" and you reply " i don't like your tone" and then slice them up. :D

i can't wait for KOTOR2

lukeiamyourdad
01-13-2004, 09:36 PM
Sherack- I thought you were more talking about sidequest and trying to restore Hk-47's memory is not available to every kind of character. You need one hell of a a repair skill to be able to restore it.
Anyway...
I was expecting the Imperial March for the darkside ending. That would have been so great. Or maybe the victory theme at the end of ANH for the light side ending. That would be sooo great...

DarthMuffin
01-15-2004, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad
Sherack- I thought you were more talking about sidequest and trying to restore Hk-47's memory is not available to every kind of character. You need one hell of a a repair skill to be able to restore it.
Anyway...
I was expecting the Imperial March for the darkside ending. That would have been so great. Or maybe the victory theme at the end of ANH for the light side ending. That would be sooo great...

You need 17 in repair to manually restore his memory, though it will automatically be restored when HK learns who you are.

And yeah, no Imp March was disappointing...

another_trooper
01-15-2004, 10:45 PM
Careful though, if you talk to him during the cutscene after we all learn of you really are hell get his memory back but without the bonuses (that happened to me once) make sure you dont talk to him at that time or repair himby then

lukeiamyourdad
01-16-2004, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by Darth54
You need 17 in repair to manually restore his memory, though it will automatically be restored when HK learns who you are.

And even as a scout I don't really need such a high repair skill...That's the problem.

Darth Homer
01-16-2004, 12:53 AM
What do you get if you repair HK's memory before the plot twist? PM me the info or spoiler it.

Anyway, I dump almost all of my points into wisdom-related options to gain more force points.

lukeiamyourdad
01-16-2004, 01:10 AM
you learn that he once was the property of darth revan

That's all I know.

Sherack Nhar
01-16-2004, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Darth Homer
What do you get if you repair HK's memory before the plot twist? PM me the info or spoiler it.

Anyway, I dump almost all of my points into wisdom-related options to gain more force points. You learn about all the owners that he had after Revan was captured. He's had something like three of them... four including the one that you buy him from. These are hilarious moments and I really recommend that you make him talk about it during your next playthrough :D

BTW, I never had any problems repairing his memory; It was always successful!

DarthMuffin
01-16-2004, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad
And even as a scout I don't really need such a high repair skill...That's the problem.

The benifits of repairing him are well worth the cost of high repair. And seriously, the only skill you need is perhaps heal, until you get your force powers. Persuade is useful sometimes, but you can also just use force persuade (it will not work on Jedi (you know who I'm talking about), but the skill itself is not a must). So if you plan to use HK (i.e. everytime you exit the Ebon), it's worth pumping repair.

lukeiamyourdad
01-17-2004, 02:05 AM
Actually the repair skill only affects the damaged droids and other non NPC droids. HK has its own repair skill independant from yours.

Persuade is quite useful in early game and even in long run, nevertheless, a persuade skill of about 15 is more then enough(shouldn't be hard to get there if you're a scoundrel).

DarthMuffin
01-18-2004, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad
Actually the repair skill only affects the damaged droids and other non NPC droids. HK has its own repair skill independant from yours.

With "repairing him" I meant upgrading him :o

As for persuade, in the early game you can just speak again to the NPC until you succeed. Also, Juhani can be converted without using persuade at all. Anyway, once I get force persuade I use it all the time instead of normal persuades. I only toss a couple in the skill for B.

another_trooper
01-19-2004, 01:20 AM
Thats true
you can convert Juhani with no persuade skill
I did it with the abusive use of bizarre answers to her questions,
oh and thank you D54 for NOT giving me the credit for this amazing discovery ( :rolleyes: )

lukeiamyourdad
01-19-2004, 02:23 PM
I know you can convert Juhani without a high persuade skill...when did I say you needed a high persuade skill to convert her?

Besides, a good persuade skill can get you more cash in early game when a 100 more credits are very useful.

DarthMuffin
01-26-2004, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by another_trooper

I did it with the abusive use of bizarre answers to her questions,
oh and thank you D54 for NOT giving me the credit for this amazing discovery ( :rolleyes: )

Errr... lets say I would have found it myself on my 5th or 6th run through the game :)

@ Luke : You said persuade was very useful in the early game. I was just saying that you didn't need it for this particular quest.

As for the cash, you just have to race non-stop or to get high bids while playing pazaak (the guy on Yavin gives you 750 IIRC).