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gameunlimited
02-09-2004, 11:34 PM
The title might be a little misleading. What I mean by new area is actually the existing area, only with new placable items and/or creature. An example of this kind of "new area" is the Survival Battle mod (downloadable at my small website, see my sig). It uses the existing Mystery Box area but now it no longer has the rakatan riddle guy. Replacing him, I put the computer terminal instead that spawns the darkjedis.

This guide will not be too deep. Instead I am just hoping that this small guide can help the new modders to access more than changing items and appearances.

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If some of these links are not working, try typing them manually on the address bar. Some of them may not work if you click on them but will work if you type it up.
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First of all, you need these following tools:
1. GFFEditor by Roboius downloadable at http://nwvault.ign.com/Files/other/data/1054162676171.shtml

2. Kotor Tools by Fred Tetra http://home.comcast.net/~armada/kotor_tool.zip

3. ERF Editor http://nwn.bioware.com/developers/erf_download.html

I will not go through the little details on how to use these programs as they are quite straight forward.

A new area is actually a module. The most basic area/module must consists of at least three files. These files are however combined into a single .mod file (or .rim files. KotOR recognizes both). Take a look at this file for example: http://webpages.charter.net/alvintamsir/misc/lastbattle.mod Open it up using the ERF Editor. As you can see, the lastbattle.mod file actually consists of three different files, namely: module.ifo, m45ad.git, and m45ad.are.

Now try and copy the lastbattle.mod file into your MODULES directory, NOT the override directory. Now go into the game and load any game. The use the cheat and type "warp lastbattle". As you can see, you will be teleported into the last battle room. However, Malak and the captive jedis are not there. Instead of malak, Bastila is now standing there.

I will go step by step now to explain it further. First of all, whenever you load an area or module, the game will search the MODULES directory for a file under such name. In this case it was looking for a file named lastbattle.mod. Once the game finds it, the first file that it looks in the module is always the file "module.ifo". It contains the basic settings of that particual mod. Using the ERF editor, extract the three files into a new directory (do not put these files into the Override directory as they may crash the game). Use GFF Editor to take a look at the "module.ifo" file.

module.ifo
I will not go through all the various data fields in this file, instead I will just point out the important ones.

Mod_Tag = this has to be the same as the name of the file (excluding the .mod extension)
Mod_Entry_Area = determines which area file should be loaded if a player enters this area (i.e. typing "warp lastbattle" in the cheat). This will bring to the next file which is the area file.

Area files have the extensions .are. In this example, the file is "m45ad.are". Let's go back to the module.ifo file. Remember what was the value in the field "Mod_Entry_Area"? Exactly, it was m45ad. So basically it was referring that the game should load this "m45ad.are" file once the module is loaded. Some of the important fields in this file is the OnExit, OnEnter, and OnHeartbeat. You can put the name of scripts here that will be executed during certain times. You can disregard about this for now. I will not cover this in detail in this post.

Now the last file is rather important, the "m45ad.git" file. This .git file basically states what are the objects that are present in the area file. So, basically it can be tought as this: the "m45ad.are" contains the info regarding the area such as lighting, day night cycle, etc; while the "m45ad.git" contains the dynamics items such as creature, containers, and other items.

m45ad.git
Open this file using the GFFEditor. The fields in this file are pretty much self explanatory.

Creature List - Lists the creature, including NPC, monsters, and enemies.
Door List - Lists all the doors
Encounter List - Lists the random encounter creature. and example would be those tigers that you found on Danttoine on the open lands.
Placable List - Lists containers, items, decorative items, computer panels, workbench and many others. These items may or may not be interacted by the PCs depending on the items itself.
Trigger List - Lists the various scripting triggers. An example would be "When you pass a certain area, initiate the script for a certain dialog".
Waypoint List - I do not recommend you to touch anything here as it may messes up the pathing AI of enemies and party members too.

An example, take a look at the Creature List. Under there, there is a subtree "0", which has another subtree "TemplateResRef". Before edited, the value should be "sta45_darthmalak". This refers to the creature blueprint of Malak. However, as you can see, I changed it into "p_bastilla". that is why you see her instead. X,Y, and Z Position are the position in which the creature will be put. One easy way to know the location of a certain spot is to load the game, and type "whereami" in the cheat console. It should give you back the coordinate of that spot.

As you can see in out example file, Placable lists and the Door lists are all empty. I deleted them. Now you can compare it with this file: http://webpages.charter.net/alvintamsir/misc/sta_m45ad.mod

This is the unmodified version of the same room. You can see how there are so many items under the Placable lists. Those are the captive jedis. Just compare and contrast the two files, you should be able to figure out more things. You can find the list of a lot of placable items and npc characters using kotor tools. They are found in the BIFs --> Templates. .utC files are Character blueprint files while .utP files are placable items.

Once you have edited these files, you can compile them back into a single .mod file using the ERF Editor. Place this new file into the MODULES directory and use the warp command. Remember that the name of the file mod file has to match the Mod_Tag field in the module.ifo file.

If you want to see the various existing areas in the game, use Kotor Tools and open the RIMs --> Modules. It has all the different areas that are found in the game. These modules may also contains .utc files and .utp files.

Once you mastered these, you can move on to learn scripting. I will try to make the small guide also for that if I have time.

That's about it. Hope it helps some of you guys. And as always, correct me if there is anything wrong. I am not an expert programmer nor modder myself. ;) If you have any question, I will gladly try my best to help.

T7nowhere
02-10-2004, 02:49 AM
hey gameunlimited. This is a good intro to modual making I read though and I allready figuered that stuff out :cool: , but what I do need to know is what you used to make the .mod file maybe you mantioned and i just passed by it. I guess I could search bioware dev section ,but I thought it would be easyer for me :D if you just told me.

:deathstar

Sunslayer
02-10-2004, 03:22 AM
SO do you think using this you could replace everything in the current enviroments in order to make a new story?

gameunlimited
02-10-2004, 01:36 PM
Sunslayer: Definitely you can, but of course it will take a load of work! You can create new NPC with new dialogs, then put them up wherever you wish to create new story.

T7nowhere: I used the ERF Editor from Bioware to make the mod files. It is capable of compiling ERF and HAK files too. Check the download list from my post above.

Prime
02-10-2004, 05:25 PM
Thanks for posting this, gameunlimited!

Fred Tetra
02-10-2004, 11:25 PM
gameunlimited - You should now be able to use Kotor tool to view your .mod files if they're in the Modules directory. I added this feature last night just because I thought you could use it :)

gameunlimited
02-11-2004, 02:49 AM
oh most definitely :) this is a very great addition to your tool

SSJ3Goku
02-20-2004, 07:52 PM
I can't download your file even though i did what you said it wouldn't work.

gameunlimited
02-20-2004, 08:11 PM
I am sorry. I recently moved my file server and have not change the link of these files properly. I just changed it to the new location, should be downloadable now. Just go to the link above again. You don't have to type it up manually this time, just click on it will do.

Sunslayer
02-20-2004, 10:24 PM
Just an idea for anybody looking to make a new area, a sidewuest for a part charcter that doesn't have one, like Jolee, HK-47, T3-M4, or maybe an additional sidequest for another character would be easy to set on Bespin, just make a small space statoin area like the Yavin one, but a bit bigger (or maybe a lot bigger), use the Manaan look, nad make the outside look like clouds, and you have a little Cloud City. :)

T7nowhere
02-21-2004, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by Sunslayer
Just an idea for anybody looking to make a new area, a sidewuest for a part charcter that doesn't have one, like Jolee, HK-47, T3-M4, or maybe an additional sidequest for another character would be easy to set on Bespin, just make a small space statoin area like the Yavin one, but a bit bigger (or maybe a lot bigger), use the Manaan look, nad make the outside look like clouds, and you have a little Cloud City. :)

That would be cool, but no more fishy men. :) How could the water be changed into clouds though. I think that would be difficult to do sinse we can directly change the area layout.
Still it would be sweet.

Darth Khasei
06-15-2004, 08:31 PM
GUnlmited, you "ARE" a modder bro. A damm good one at that. Survival Maxtrix mod ROCKS!

Drog
06-16-2004, 02:35 PM
Is there a way to edit .utc files without using kotor tools editor? .. thx in forway...

Darth333
06-16-2004, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Drog
Is there a way to edit .utc files without using kotor tools editor? .. thx in forway...

GFF editor. Look at my sticky: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=129789 I give you three choices.

Drog
06-16-2004, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Darth333
GFF editor. Look at my sticky: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=129789 I give you three choices.

Heh sorry doesent work... something wrong with my GFF editor btw i am downloading a new one instead. Thx

DarkLord Re\/an
06-18-2004, 04:49 AM
where can i find other areas koz i want to make holomaan(which is mannaan dedicated to holowan labs... just like so many other ppl have done :))

*edit* ok i found it (note to self.. remember to look before assuming it isnt ther) :D lol

Doom_Dealer
06-18-2004, 05:16 AM
Originally posted by DarkLord Re\/an
where can i find other areas koz i want to make holomaan(which is mannaan dedicated to holowan labs... just like so many other ppl have done :))

*edit* ok i found it (note to self.. remember to look before assuming it isnt ther) :D lol



i think ive started a trend here, first Drog's starting a holowan tribute, now you :) well, good look with it, its quite a good introduction to module making, as it requires not very complex dialogues or scripts, and its a springboard to the more complicated stuff.

DarkLord Re\/an
06-18-2004, 06:01 AM
thanx... i think ill need it ive only been modding for like 2 weeks...

*edit*Will it still read the file if i change the .are file and the .git files to holomaan.are and holomaan.git... then i changed the mod_entry_area to holomaan... and then i typed "warp holomaan" after that it went to the loading/saving screen, when it was saving the game crashed... any thoughts on how to fix that?

Darth333
06-18-2004, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by DarkLord Re\/an
thanx... i think ill need it ive only been modding for like 2 weeks...

*edit*Will it still read the file if i change the .are file and the .git files to holomaan.are and holomaan.git... then i changed the mod_entry_area to holomaan... and then i typed "warp holomaan" after that it went to the loading/saving screen, when it was saving the game crashed... any thoughts on how to fix that?
You don't need to change the names of the .git , .ifo and .are files. When you build your module with the ERF builder, then you can call your module holomaan.mod and warp there if you want.
You can also attach the following script to a convo or create a dialog with an object to be teleported there without using a cheat ;) :


void main()
{
StartNewModule("holomaan"));
}

use the same method to go back to where you where.

DarkLord Re\/an
06-18-2004, 10:23 AM
k... ill try that later as for now im trying to make a new model.. sofar... not at all successful :(

DarkLord Re\/an
06-18-2004, 11:33 AM
but wouldent keeping them the same change the original ingame... or does it just sit as a new area???

Darth333
06-18-2004, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by DarkLord Re\/an
but wouldent keeping them the same change the original ingame... or does it just sit as a new area???
Evrything is packed in a .mod file that has a new name. If your module name is different, then the game will treat it as a new area.

DarkLord Re\/an
06-18-2004, 11:46 AM
ok thanx :cool:

StormTrooper789
06-23-2004, 04:01 PM
I am making a module named custom01. Nice Name huh? :)
Now I'm goinf to make the module for all the scripts and everything else. Do I need to name it custom01_s.mod because I do not know what to put before the _s.mod.

_s.rim files have all the resources for the module in case u didn't know.

Darth333
06-23-2004, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by StormTrooper789
I am making a module named custom01. Nice Name huh? :)
Now I'm goinf to make the module for all the scripts and everything else. Do I need to name it custom01_s.mod because I do not know what to put before the _s.mod.

_s.rim files have all the resources for the module in case u didn't know.

You can name your module whatever you want, even "stormtrooper789.mod"
When you build the ERF, just include all the files you need in the package: the .are, .git, .ifo files, .ncs, .dlg, placeables, etc...

StormTrooper789
06-23-2004, 04:16 PM
K thx.

I didn't know since all the official modules have a _s.rim part.

StormTrooper789
06-23-2004, 09:17 PM
:mad: :mad: :mad: :( :( :(
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I can't insert new objects into the *.git file that have XYZ coordinates that i got from the whereami cheat. If I make a new object and use the XYZ coordinates that are used by something else it works. Can someone give me a solution? The new object doesn't show up!

Darth Fett
10-10-2004, 08:55 AM
:( One of these links no longer works...

Darth333
10-10-2004, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by Darth Fett
:( One of these links no longer works...

Next time, indicate which link doesn't work. So far, the only link I found that was not working was the one for Kotor tool. You can check my Guide for the newbie (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=129789) to get it (or the tools and mods sticky (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=122049)). Since the time Gameunlimited made his tutorial, a lot of new tools have been released. You will find them classified by mod category in the guide for the neewbie (there is an area creation category).

MTV2
10-10-2004, 12:03 PM
Too bad are Tusken Raider, Gameunlimited, left:( , he could update it alot

Darth333
10-10-2004, 12:15 PM
All the info given by GU is still valid. The only difference is that now you have some tools to make your life easier. Per example, you no longer have to edit dialogues with a GFF editor since we have dlg editors. You can also edit many of the files directly with Kotor Tool and , depending on which area you are working, use KT's area editor.

There is also another guide by Doom Dealer.

Doom_Dealer
10-10-2004, 02:16 PM
Download: http://doomdealer.tripod.com/


-links at the top of the page!

MTV2
10-11-2004, 01:23 PM
your module creation thing?

ya, I have that and its great, read the whole, followed all the steps, now, I just need to test it when my game starts working:rolleyes:

Darth Fett
10-11-2004, 03:36 PM
Does anyone have the complete proper link to the NWN Editor? The tutorial only gives this (in a non link form)
http://users.servicios.retecal.es/f...l/NwNEditor.zip

Thanks.

Darth333
10-11-2004, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by Darth Fett
Does anyone have the complete proper link to the NWN Editor? The tutorial only gives this (in a non link form)
http://users.servicios.retecal.es/f...l/NwNEditor.zip

Thanks.

All the links are in the Guide for the Newbie sticky at the top of this page. But a lot of this stuff can now be done directly with Kotor tool (the Guide for the Newbie indicates the latest tools that you can use)

Xavier2
11-30-2004, 04:38 PM
I still can't figure how doors work in new areas. It is pretty straight forward to make a door allowing you to get out of an area, but how and where can i place specific coordinates when the PC's are entering a new area?

Darth333
11-30-2004, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by Xavier2
I still can't figure how doors work in new areas. It is pretty straight forward to make a door allowing you to get out of an area, but how and where can i place specific coordinates when the PC's are entering a new area?

Look at the 3rd and 6th posts on the 2nd page of this thread: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=130451&perpage=40&pagenumber=2

if there is something you don't understand, then don't hesitate to post your questions :)

sketch42
01-24-2005, 07:03 PM
ok i tried this out and it worked :D

just one thing... i used the ruins on dantooine for my test and i placed malak where the ancient droid was .. so i see him and fight him and one swipe he was dead... the feedback said that his defense was 12 and that his VP was 32 ????

Darth333
01-24-2005, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by sketch42
ok i tried this out and it worked :D

just one thing... i used the ruins on dantooine for my test and i placed malak where the ancient droid was .. so i see him and fight him and one swipe he was dead... the feedback said that his defense was 12 and that his VP was 32 ????

That would rather be a problem with the .utc file you used rather than aarea editing. In what module did you picked up the Malak .utc?

sketch42
01-24-2005, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by Darth333
That would rather be a problem with the .utc file you used rather than aarea editing. In what module did you picked up the Malak .utc?

BIFs>Templates>Blueprint Character

Darkkender
01-24-2005, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by sketch42
BIFs>Templates>Blueprint Character

Likely that is the utc either for cutscene's or is there for an example case of malak. What you should look in is one of the starforge rim files probably deck 4 and look for one titled something like sta_malak.utc that would be a better challenge.

sketch42
01-24-2005, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by Darkkender
Likely that is the utc either for cutscene's or is there for an example case of malak. What you should look in is one of the starforge rim files probably deck 4 and look for one titled something like sta_malak.utc that would be a better challenge.

whenever i take any utc from the rims section nothing spawns

RedHawke
01-24-2005, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by sketch42
whenever i take any utc from the rims section nothing spawns
This is likely caused by the .utc's tag and templateresref not matching what your module or script is calling for, you will have to edit those to match what you are calling for then they should appear fine. :)

sketch42
01-24-2005, 11:34 PM
no i checked the name took the easiest to spell too lol
here look
http://www.imagemonster.org/getimg/Untitled_1_copy.gif

ChAiNz.2da
01-25-2005, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by sketch42
no i checked the name took the easiest to spell too lol
here look
http://www.imagemonster.org/getimg/Untitled_1_copy.gif
Did you try the sta_45darthmalak.utc

RIMS > Modules > sta_m45ad_s.rim - Deck 4 [Star Forge] > Blueprint, Character

I noticed it had the "darth" prefix, and looking over the stats seems to be the one you wind up fighting in the 'finale'...

The .utc you have pictured, Malak has but a normal red lightsaber, 13 strength and 8 max hitpoints

the "darth" pre-fix has the uber-saber, 29 strength, and 307 max hitpoints

sketch42
01-25-2005, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by ChAiNz.2da
Did you try the sta_45darthmalak.utc

RIMS > Modules > sta_m45ad_s.rim - Deck 4 [Star Forge] > Blueprint, Character

I noticed it had the "darth" prefix, and looking over the stats seems to be the one you wind up fighting in the 'finale'...

The .utc you have pictured, Malak has but a normal red lightsaber, 13 strength and 8 max hitpoints

the "darth" pre-fix has the uber-saber, 29 strength, and 307 max hitpoints

yea i tried that but without the .utc extension and nothing was there


heres everything i did...


i found the dantooine ruins .... extracted the mod file with KT and proceded to Decompile with the ERF editor , copied and put my new are. ifo and git in a new folder (so as to ave a backup)..

opened GFF editor and edited the Mod_Tag only to say sketch. saved and closed
opened the .git file in the GFF editor and changed the ancientdroid in the creatures list to sta_45darthmalak

Recfompiled all files with ERF editor and named the Mod file sketch ... placed it in the modules folder in kotor directory and it didnt work... i ended up deleting the rest of the creatures in the creature list as they never showed up anyway

now i noticed that no UTCs from RIM work ... only the ones found in BIF

and now im stuck

Darth333
01-25-2005, 07:14 AM
Is the sta_45darthmalak.utc file in your new module or in your override folder?

The other thing you can check is the Field ID as explained here. (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1571939#post1571939) (the post is about doors but it works the same way with all the objects you add to the .git file)

sketch42
01-25-2005, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by Darth333
Is the sta_45darthmalak.utc file in your new module or in your override folder?

The other thing you can check is the Field ID as explained here. (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1571939#post1571939) (the post is about doors but it works the same way with all the objects you add to the .git file)

??? the utc file i never extracted... i was assumming from the tut that the game will see the function im calling and grab it from its appropriate place

so where should i put the utc

can i compile it with the Mod file???

Darth333
01-25-2005, 07:27 AM
Originally posted by sketch42
can i compile it with the Mod file???
Yes, it's the best solution. It keeps the override folder clean and it avoids overwriting other files which may have the same name or tag.

Darkkender
01-25-2005, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by sketch42
??? the utc file i never extracted... i was assumming from the tut that the game will see the function im calling and grab it from its appropriate place

so where should i put the utc

can i compile it with the Mod file???

When you plan to use a utc file that is only listed within a specific RIM file you have to extract it because that means as far as the game is concerned it only exists within that RIM. If something is not within the BIF files that is a resource you intend to use then it will be Module specific for each RIM file and need to be extracted from the RIM.

sketch42
01-25-2005, 07:56 AM
ok so now i have another question... say i wanted to say take Nurik Sandral and make him an enemy..(meaning attack me o site) do i need to add a script for that or can i modify his utc file ???


now i understand why the doors dont show up ... i dont have the utp? files for them compiled into the mod file ... (right?)

Darth333
01-25-2005, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by sketch42
ok so now i have another question... say i wanted to say take Nurik Sandral and make him an enemy..(meaning attack me o site) do i need to add a script for that or can i modify his utc file ???
check this thread: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=123618

you can also make an npc hostile if you change the FactionID in the .utc file to 1 (however, the npc will be hostile right when you enter the module and no dialogue will be possible).

In order not to bring this thread off topic and to keep the forums clean, please use a separate thread when you start a new subject ;)



now i understand why the doors dont show up ... i dont have the utp? files for them compiled into the mod file ... (right?) yes. (but also check the filed ID thing I mentionned a few posts above)

sketch42
01-25-2005, 08:23 AM
got it... thanks for all the help.. if i have any more questions pertaining to new area creation ill ask here .... theres a wealth of knowledge on this forum... i think every quest has been answered :cool:

sketch42
01-25-2005, 04:11 PM
ok i tried compiling malak to the mod file and it didnt work... i looked at the post about the field id and didnt really understand what i was looking for in what files...

so here are some pics of what i have

Malaks star forge utc file
http://www.imagemonster.org/getimg/malak_utc.gif

my .ifo file for the ruins
http://www.imagemonster.org/getimg/ruins_ifo.gif

my .git file for the ruins
http://www.imagemonster.org/getimg/ruins_git.gif

Darkkender
01-25-2005, 04:22 PM
Are you actually inserting the sta_45malak.utc into the mod/erf file.

sketch42
01-25-2005, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Darkkender
Are you actually inserting the sta_45malak.utc into the mod/erf file.
yea im compiling it together

Darth333 quote:
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Originally posted by sketch42
can i compile it with the Mod file???
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Yes, it's the best solution. It keeps the override folder clean and it avoids overwriting other files which may have the same name or tag.

Darth333
01-25-2005, 04:44 PM
If you want I can have a look at your files (but it won't be before tomorrow evening). Just PM me.

sketch42
01-25-2005, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by Darth333
If you want I can have a look at your files (but it won't be before tomorrow evening). Just PM me.

but from wat i posted (the pics) does everything look right??

the Type id for malak i left it the same as it was for the droid... can that be the problem??? wat would be the type id for malak??? how would i find out

Darkkender
01-25-2005, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by sketch42
yea im compiling it together

Okay can you provide us with a screenshot of the file contents of your Mod/erf file from erf builder or kotor tool.

because the erf file itself should contain at least 4 files from what your describing the are, git, ifo & sta45_darthmalak.utc

Darth333
01-26-2005, 04:54 AM
Darkkender, I got the files from Sketch42 and I will look at them. There is no point in posting further screenshots that will just clutter the thread. Plus he says he can go to his new module , the only problem is that new paceables are no showing up.

sketch42
01-30-2005, 07:00 AM
still no word from Darth 333 ... i assume she is very busy with real life so is there anyone else that can take a look at this file and why it isnt working??

Check your PMs: in fact I did not found anything wrong with the creatures list of your .git file :confused: - Darth333

brwarner
09-03-2005, 09:11 PM
Um.. I'm working in Kotor 2 and the whereami cheat doesn't do anything i can't even see the cheat box but i know i typed it in. If there is no way to get coordinates that way how can i?

Darth333
09-03-2005, 09:19 PM
yes, there is a way to get the coordinates: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=144260 :)

brwarner
09-03-2005, 10:51 PM
I am trying to turn an empty apartment on Cidadel Station into a mini sub quest and i can't add placeables to it. And when i try to edit placeables it doesnt change them. How do I do it?
I am working in the git file is that not what i am supposed to do?

Darth333
09-04-2005, 12:45 AM
You have to reload a savegame from before entering that area for the first time to see the changes.

cry_of_paine
09-04-2005, 04:23 AM
If you've saved when you've already been to that module, and don't want to have to, for example, replay the entire level, you can follow the instructions in this thread. (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=150955) In the save file, look for the module with the same name as the one you're editing, and delete it. It should then rebuild that module. I had to do that to get one of my mods to work after I made some changes.

Just make sure to back up the save before making any changes like that.

The first time through, it froze up on me trying to load the save, but I think I might have had the game open when I was making all my changes. Anyway, I rebooted and it worked fine.

brwarner
09-04-2005, 09:25 AM
Thanks

brwarner
09-04-2005, 10:47 AM
I appear to have another problem. I have exported all the files in the modules 203TEL.rim and 203TEL_s.rim added a placeable in the placables folder changed one of the placeables in the git by changing the templeteres thing to my placeables name and built all the files into 203TEL.mod and temporarily moved the 203tel rims out and altered the save file but now the game freezes on load of that module.

Darth333
09-04-2005, 11:33 AM
you don't need to remove the 203TEL_s.rim out . Just leave it there. Since the files don't have the same extension, 203TEL.mod won't delete the other file and the game will use the new file instead of the old one.

Make sure that you don't have any copy of your 203TEL.mod file in your override folder.

When I want to test the location of placeables, instead of altering the savegame, i simply resave the new .mod file under a new name such as 203TEL_test.mod and warp to the new module. When I am testing a side quest and need to edit globals, then I just use KSE to set them where I want.

brwarner
09-05-2005, 05:33 PM
Well things are starting to work and al my paceables, characters, ect. but I can't talk to them. I used the kotor tool editor to change their dialogs to my ones and they just don't talk. I'm in kotor 2 so do I have to put the dialogs in a .erf file like the others or what?

Darth333
09-05-2005, 09:45 PM
If you modified Kotor 2 dialogues with Kotor tool, you likely have messed all the dialogues. You have to use tk102's DLGeditor for the reasons explained in this thread:
http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=151816
(and in the modding tools sticky in the general tutorials)

brwarner
09-07-2005, 07:10 PM
If you modified Kotor 2 dialogues with Kotor tool, you likely have messed all the dialogues.

But I didn't modify them I created new ones.

Darth333
09-07-2005, 07:33 PM
Do their .utc files point to the correct dlg?
Do you have conditional scripts to make a dlg branch available or not?

brwarner
09-07-2005, 09:10 PM
I just made a new dialog in KotorTool no scripts no conditions just dialog for a test and it doesnt work they just look at me,
and yes the utc points to the correct dlg file.

Are you sure they shouldnt be in a .erf file like all the others in kotor 2 and not the .mod

Darth333
09-07-2005, 09:53 PM
can you post one of those .utc files and the corresponding .dlg?

RedHawke
09-07-2005, 11:29 PM
Are you sure they shouldnt be in a .erf file like all the others in kotor 2 and not the .mod
Pack everything in the .mod file, even the dialogues. :)

brwarner
09-08-2005, 08:03 AM
here are the links to them

http://www.freewebs.com/brwarners/SlaveGirl01.dlg

http://www.freewebs.com/brwarners/slavedancer1.utc

or goto if they dont work its on the main pagewww.freewebs.com/brwarners.html (http://www.freewebs.com/brwarners)

Darth InSidious
09-09-2005, 03:59 AM
Also, in 261TEL, orientations seem not to work in the meditation chamber very well...