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Crow_Nest
02-10-2004, 05:50 AM
Well you see in school, i cant pay attention. Sometimes its because i get distracted or feel a little sleepy, stuff like that.

Can you guys help me?

Boba Rhett
02-10-2004, 05:57 AM
What time during the day does this happen? Have you ever checked your blood sugar?

Crow_Nest
02-10-2004, 06:10 AM
About 8am to about 1PM.

Boba Rhett
02-10-2004, 06:15 AM
Do you eat breakfast or is your first meal lunch?

Crow_Nest
02-10-2004, 06:21 AM
Originally posted by Boba Rhett
Do you eat breakfast or is your first meal lunch?

Um, i dont eat breakfast everytime.

Weapon X
02-10-2004, 06:21 AM
drink redbull and it should help (or so i've heard)

or if you're really desperate, the drug that people w/ ADD and ADHD take is supposed to make you focus like no other when you crush it and sniff it. i guess it's the best thing to make you focus as of yet (ATTENTION Deficit Disorder, if you don't need it you can KIND OF pay attention, but if you take it? pay BETTER attention) but like i said, that's only stuff i've heard, i'm not brave/stupid enough to try it, i wouldn't snort anything other than smarties or pixie stix, and those are off of dares, oh and tang, i got payed to do that

Boba Rhett
02-10-2004, 06:28 AM
Do NOT drink Redbull. That crap's even been recently outlawed in France. It's literally killing people.

Anything like a sugary treat or a pop will help for about twenty minutes but then it's going to make you feel worse.

Jolting your system with a high amount of sugar and caffine will only make you crash moreso. From what you describe, it sounds like you may be a little hypo-glycemic. What you need is protien if that's the case. Get some of those protien bars, I know they aren't that great but they will help bring up your bloodsugar in a real hurry to normal ranges, restoring alertness as well as making you feel all around better.


Try it out. Eat one in the morning, and maybe bring one with you to school to have a few hours later. See if it makes you feel better.

Crow_Nest
02-10-2004, 06:36 AM
Thanks, i'll try it out. :)

gorganfloss
02-10-2004, 06:38 AM
Now that I think about it, I have the same problem.

D'oh.

IG-64
02-10-2004, 06:39 AM
I have a hard time focusing on repetitive things for long periods of time (This includes some or most video games) so you can imagine how hard of time I have in school.

But as long as i'm learning something I like I can sit there for hours, like science, but if i'm learning something in math you can bet i'll be out of focus before the next hour.

Boba Rhett
02-10-2004, 06:40 AM
Yeah you'd be surprised how many people have a problem with low bloodsugar and never even realize it.

Jared
02-10-2004, 06:51 AM
hey, buddy, its called a.d.d.


you need drugs.

lots of drugs.

Boba Rhett
02-10-2004, 06:55 AM
Yeah!!11 Merely covering up the symptoms of problems is fun!

WEEEEEEEEE!!! Ritalin for all!

*runs around in circles, throwing pill up in the air*

Datheus
02-10-2004, 06:59 AM
Actually, it's probably a blood sugar problem just due to diet.

Try eating healthy, getting all your veetamens. Make sure you get a fair amount of exercise every day. That'd probably help right there.

Or just go on a 3 month crack Ritalin bender.

Astrotoy7
02-10-2004, 07:03 AM
Crow, Ive been there. Before seeing a doctor I would suggest talking to your teachers, and/or school counsellor. They can help you develop certain study skills that will affect your conecntration and fatigue. It worked for me. Secondly, DO SOME EXERCISE, this is very important !! And, dont spend extended hours in front of the computer, have breaks every 30mins to hour...otherwise your brain just gets fried, and your eyes tired....

MTFBWYA

Crow_Nest
02-10-2004, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
Crow, Ive been there. Before seeing a doctor I would suggest talking to your teachers, and/or school counsellor. They can help you develop certain study skills that will affect your conecntration and fatigue. It worked for me. Secondly, DO SOME EXERCISE, this is very important !! And, dont spend extended hours in front of the computer, have breaks every 30mins to hour...otherwise your brain just gets fried, and your eyes tired....

MTFBWYA

yes yes thats what they all say.... :rolleyes: But thats what most of us do right?

Jedi_Vogel
02-10-2004, 07:22 AM
DO SOME EXERCISE

Is a good start. Apparently, if you get up do some stretches or something for anything between 1-5 minutes it helps.

Also check your FLUID intake - are you drinking enough?

Eat Breakfast - if you have time eat a good breakfast. I've heard that the best way to eat in a day is

Like a King at Breakfast
Like a Prince at Dinner
Like a Pauper at Supper

That's supposed to help you sleep better and more sleep (or at least GOOD sleep) will give you more energy for the day.

Make sure you get some air into your room at night so you don't feel so groggy in the morning.

Vary your tasks so that you don't get bored. If you can go for an hour, good on you, do it. (at school I guess you don't get much choice) but if, when you do homework, you can't concentrate for very long then do short stints of say 20-25 minutes with a 5 minute break AWAY from the desk and then come back to it.

Just a few strategies.

Hmm, maybe I should take my own advice :o

Darth Rythe
02-10-2004, 08:04 AM
I don't mean to be mean or anything.
But it could be ADD.
I've got it and a lot of the time i can't consentrate.

Sivy
02-10-2004, 08:11 AM
i think you're just bored




i'm bored :bored:

STTCT
02-10-2004, 08:12 AM
I work graveyard - so I should know all about this stuff
being sleepy etc


You need a good amount of sleep

You need to drink WATER

You need to make sure you EAT

Move around once in awhile



and if this doesn't help

You need to drink some sodas

You can drink "AMP" by Mt. Dew (its great)

STTCT
02-10-2004, 08:13 AM
Wait - crow where do you live and what time is it where you do...because its 1:30 in the morning here...maybe you should be SLEEPING instead of being on the net...that might help :)

leXX
02-10-2004, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by Boba Rhett
Do NOT drink Redbull. That crap's even been recently outlawed in France. It's literally killing people.

Rhett, it is only killing people who are drinking it in extreme quantities or mixing it with achohol. Even then, there is no evidence to link the deaths with Red Bull yet, just claims afaik so far. It actually has less caffeine in it than coffee. I saw a special program all about it, and how everyone is exaggerating the situation without all the facts, especially France.

I love Red Bull. I have two cans a day. I certainly don't recommend kids drink it though.

Crow_Nest
02-10-2004, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by STTCT
Wait - crow where do you live and what time is it where you do...because its 1:30 in the morning here...maybe you should be SLEEPING instead of being on the net...that might help :)

Hey when you posted that, it was around 7PM. Thats everyone's dinner time :p

But i dont think its about sleeping early (i used to sleep like about 12 or even 1am last time), now i sleep like about 9PM or 10PM. Its still the same thing.

Its currently 7.48 in singapore now. :)

TheHobGoblin
02-10-2004, 11:03 AM
Only one thing works. Smack yourself.....

Astrotoy7
02-10-2004, 02:13 PM
Crow, Jedi_Vogel and STTCT have given you great advice. My suggestions about seeing teachers, doing exercise still stand(Ive been there too !) Please do these things and let us know how you go !!

As for ppl diagnosing Crow with ADHD, just leave the ppor kid alone will ya. I think it would be stressful enough without being labelled as suffering an illness by someone hardly qualified to diagnose it....

I am a physical therapist and have worked in hospital and community health settings for the last 5 years. In my community health work in particular we did a lot of multidisciplanary work on improving youth fitness levels(in local schools), and the effects it had on their performance in class. The bottom line of our research work was : EXERCISE IS GOOD FOR THE MIND TOO !! There is a multitude of literature on the subject, but once again, I suggest you speak to your teachers, counsellors, join a local gym or sports team !

...and dont even think for a second that you have ADHD, until you have tried EVERYTHING(seriously) ! Even then, there are still many other factors affecting tiredness and concentration, not just that syndrome which alot of kids get labelled with....

MTFBWYA

IG-64
02-10-2004, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
I am a physical therapist and have worked in hospital and community health settings for the last 5 years.

Really? That's cool. :thumbsup:

Astrotoy7
02-10-2004, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by IG-64
Really? That's cool. :thumbsup:

yeah, I thought you might've known that already, I mentioned it in the JA forums when I was trying to tell the numbskulls there that the human eye cannot process anything over 150 fps....

anyway, back to crow, we gotta help our feathered buddy !

MTFBWYA

Jedi_Vogel
02-10-2004, 03:50 PM
There is a multitude of literature on the subject

Could you point me in the right direction could I could use some "health advice" literature :)

MennoniteHobbit
02-10-2004, 04:13 PM
Well, you either have diabetes or ADHD, as all of us have established... do you have a hard time concentrating on boring schoolwork? Because, usually when you are taught something you don't care for, you don't pay attention and get bored. Oh, and yeah, drugs (MEDICATIONS, not drugs like that and such) would help along with therapy. But, hey, at least ur not tired posting on LF.

ET Warrior
02-10-2004, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by MennoniteHobbit
Well, you either have diabetes or ADHD, as all of us have established....

Actually, no. He probably DOESNT have either of those. It's possible, but random people on an internet forum really can't diagnose that.

If you are getting enough sleep and eating breakfast then Ima gonna say Astro and Rhett are right on. Make sure your diet is proper, and get some exercise.

ExcelsioN
02-10-2004, 04:25 PM
I usually find myself unable to concentrate around lunch time, and then its better after I've eaten.

WolfmanNCSU
02-10-2004, 04:31 PM
Coffee, it makes me wake up. I usually need a good 2 cups in the morning.

IG-64
02-10-2004, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
yeah, I thought you might've known that already, I mentioned it in the JA forums when I was trying to tell the numbskulls there that the human eye cannot process anything over 150 fps....

anyway, back to crow, we gotta help our feathered buddy !

MTFBWYA

Do you know of a web site with facts about the eye?

Originally posted by MennoniteHobbit
do you have a hard time concentrating on boring schoolwork? Because, usually when you are taught something you don't care for, you don't pay attention and get bored.

Read my first post.

Jared
02-10-2004, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Boba Rhett
Yeah!!11 Merely covering up the symptoms of problems is fun!

WEEEEEEEEE!!! Ritalin for all!

*runs around in circles, throwing pills up in the air*



thats better.

drugs are the answer to everything.

DarkLord60
02-10-2004, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by Jared
hey, buddy, its called a.d.d.


you need drugs.

lots of drugs.

Yes but drugs can also have the same effect. See I take medicine for ADHD and it makes me tired.

Astrotoy7
02-10-2004, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Jedi_Vogel
Could you point me in the right direction could I could use some "health advice" literature :)

As a health professional here in Australia, we often use the BetterHealth network, which is a government sponsored site.

Check it out, it has alot of useful stuff, plus I'm sure the UK/Belgium etc have their equivalent sites too...

A link to the "Healthy Living" section on the BetterHealth site (http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/healthy_living?opendocument)

(probably good for you to read this too, Crow

if you want more info on these topics just go down to your local community health centre/pharmacy, they usually have lots of information.

MTFBWYA

TheHobGoblin
02-10-2004, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
Crow, Jedi_Vogel and STTCT have given you great advice. My suggestions about seeing teachers, doing exercise still stand(Ive been there too !) Please do these things and let us know how you go !!

As for ppl diagnosing Crow with ADHD, just leave the ppor kid alone will ya. I think it would be stressful enough without being labelled as suffering an illness by someone hardly qualified to diagnose it....

I am a physical therapist and have worked in hospital and community health settings for the last 5 years. In my community health work in particular we did a lot of multidisciplanary work on improving youth fitness levels(in local schools), and the effects it had on their performance in class. The bottom line of our research work was : EXERCISE IS GOOD FOR THE MIND TOO !! There is a multitude of literature on the subject, but once again, I suggest you speak to your teachers, counsellors, join a local gym or sports team !

...and dont even think for a second that you have ADHD, until you have tried EVERYTHING(seriously) ! Even then, there are still many other factors affecting tiredness and concentration, not just that syndrome which alot of kids get labelled with....

MTFBWYA

I still say he should smack himself.... it never failed :cool:

Jed
02-11-2004, 12:35 AM
In addition to all of the above suggestions, try going to bed at least ONE hour earlier than you normally do....just try it. One hour more of sleep can do absolute wonders sometimes, and it's good for ya, too :D

I really doubt you have any sort of serious medical condition. ADD/ADHD doesn't seem to fit the description, and diabetes doesn't make any sense - as a diabetic myself, I can say that the symptoms of yours don't match up. More likely what Rhett said _if_ anything, but don't get worried. Try to eat a little more, maybe some orange juice in the morning, and even if you think you're getting enough sleep...get more!

Good luck buddeh!

Anthony
02-11-2004, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by Boba Rhett
Do NOT drink Redbull. That crap's even been recently outlawed in France. It's literally killing people.

Anything like a sugary treat or a pop will help for about twenty minutes but then it's going to make you feel worse.

Jolting your system with a high amount of sugar and caffine will only make you crash moreso. From what you describe, it sounds like you may be a little hypo-glycemic. What you need is protien if that's the case. Get some of those protien bars, I know they aren't that great but they will help bring up your bloodsugar in a real hurry to normal ranges, restoring alertness as well as making you feel all around better.


Try it out. Eat one in the morning, and maybe bring one with you to school to have a few hours later. See if it makes you feel better.


What Rhett said about protien, you could also try eating a bit more meat, its got lotsa protien in it ( beef, yes)

EDIT: What exaclty is redbull?

TK-8252
02-11-2004, 02:18 AM
Pssh, get more sleep, Crow! Stop staying up all night playing Jedi Academy! ;)

Yeah, seriously, more sleep. I go to bed way too late, and the next day I'm falling asleep in school.

Jedi_Vogel
02-11-2004, 07:59 AM
Red Bull = High sugar, very high caffein drink often used alongside alcohol for greater effect.

Supposed to help concentration. I've ever drunk it but I wonder how long it is before those who drink it regularly get caffein poisoning ... :s

Crow_Nest
02-11-2004, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by WolfmanNCSU
Coffee, it makes me wake up. I usually need a good 2 cups in the morning.

Nahs i dont drink coffee, whats worse that if it lasts until night, i wont be able to sleep.

Boba Rhett
02-11-2004, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by Jedi_Vogel
Red Bull = High sugar, very high caffein drink often used alongside alcohol for greater effect.

Supposed to help concentration. I've ever drunk it but I wonder how long it is before those who drink it regularly get caffein poisoning ... :s


I fail to see how mixing a depressant with a stimulant would help concentration. :indif:

Sivy
02-11-2004, 09:39 AM
yeeeeah alcohol is great for concentration... thats why you should always drink and drive :rolleyes:

Crow_Nest
02-11-2004, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by Siv
yeeeeah alcohol is great for concentration... thats why you should always drink and drive :rolleyes:

But im too young to drink that stuff. :rolleyes:

STTCT
02-11-2004, 12:12 PM
Keep some sugar candies like (life savers) or something that you can keep in your pocket and suck on those whenever you are starting to get sleepy or bored. Something I've done (i'd say gum but schools usually frown on that.

Crow_Nest
02-11-2004, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by STTCT
Keep some sugar candies like (life savers) or something that you can keep in your pocket and suck on those whenever you are starting to get sleepy or bored. Something I've done (i'd say gum but schools usually frown on that.

If my teacher catches me eating those during class. Im fried. Cause my school is very strict, ask druid bremen if you dont belive me....

Jedi_Vogel
02-11-2004, 12:39 PM
If you look at what I posted earlier crow, that should start you on the road to feeling better.

That's not arrogance, cos everything I know I got from someone else (except where I tried something first) so I'm just passing on someone else's wisdom to you :)

Jedi_Vogel
02-11-2004, 12:42 PM
I fail to see how mixing a depressant with a stimulant would help concentration

It doesn't, lol. My post wasn't very clear. The Red Bull is supposed to help concentration.

PUBS/bars/clubs then sell it alongside alcohol and charge a fortune :) that's what I meant to say the first time :o

Boba Rhett
02-11-2004, 12:43 PM
Just because you heard it from someone else doesn't mean it has any credibility whatsoever. I mean, hell, you posted earlier that he should get plastered and have some red bulls if he wants increased concentration. o_O


Edit: just saw your second post. Nevermind.

Jedi_Vogel
02-11-2004, 12:48 PM
you posted earlier that he should get plastered and have some red bulls if he wants increased concentration.

Man, did I give a bad impression or what? I would never says someone should get plastered, nor would I encourage the use of Red Bull :( If that was how my words came across then I apologise here and now for any offence or anything else negative I may have caused.

- Martin

STTCT
02-11-2004, 12:52 PM
Red bull is an acquired taste..and I think it taste Nasty!

Amp is good! Also Mt. Due has more Caffeine in it than any other soda....but

Water is the best source if you want more energy.

Crow_Nest
02-12-2004, 10:14 AM
well i asked my dad about that redbull thingy, he said that children shouldnt drink it, like leXX said. :rolleyes:

topshot
02-12-2004, 06:05 PM
Keeping set goals in your mind helps, too. I know. I tried. :cool:

DarkLord60
02-12-2004, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by STTCT
Red bull is an acquired taste..and I think it taste Nasty!

Amp is good! Also Mt. Due has more Caffeine in it than any other soda....but

Water is the best source if you want more energy.

And here I thought I was the only one who hated red bull I guess there is a couple pppl here who also hate it and also I dont think it works. I just hate when ppls response is "drink Red Bull"

Captain Wilson
02-12-2004, 11:12 PM
my Advice listen to very loud music for 5 secs every hour. And i mean REALLY loud music. Works for me. getting me through mr exams :)

Crow_Nest
02-13-2004, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by Captain Wilson
my Advice listen to very loud music for 5 secs every hour. And i mean REALLY loud music. Works for me. getting me through mr exams :)

Thanks but how does THAT really help? :confused: