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keshire
02-28-2004, 12:05 PM
Something OJP has been working on. And hopefully we can ge the backing of some of the popular Model makers.

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/20042283186642812816056.jpg

I added in a couple of new tags.

bolt_holster_saber
saber2
staff
blaster
&
launcher

Crow_Nest
02-28-2004, 01:00 PM
It would be cool that we could holster our sabers/guns to our belt thingys :) :cool:

But the way the saber is holstered in that screen looks kinda weird.

keshire
02-28-2004, 01:05 PM
I'm not the best at setting up and weighting. I was trying to avoid clipping issues. The theory is sound though.

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/20042282740384657628845.jpg
modview with all bolts used.

Crow_Nest
02-28-2004, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by keshire
I'm not the best at setting up and weighting. I was trying to avoid clipping issues. The theory is sound though.

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/20042282740384657628845.jpg
modview with all bolts used.

Whoa those holstered weapons look so cool! Great job :thumbsup:

Especially the staff :cool:

keshire
02-28-2004, 01:19 PM
Especially the staff

it was the only place I could put it.:D

We hope to have it show the weapons you have that do the most amount of damage and aren't in use.

So more than likely you'll always see the sabers holstered. And the rocket launcher if you have it and aren't using it, and aren't already using a staff.

At least thats what I'd like RazorAce to do. We'll see though.

Tinny
02-28-2004, 01:41 PM
woah, thats cool. are you going to make a halo like system where you can only carry a certain amount of weapons at a time?

Kurgan
02-28-2004, 02:15 PM
Maybe Force Pull should be able to yank weapons off your belt/outfit too?

Lightning
02-28-2004, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by Kurgan
Maybe Force Pull should be able to yank weapons off your belt/outfit too?

Then every one would just me stealing weapons all the time.

DarthMuffin
02-28-2004, 03:03 PM
Hey, that looks really nice :D

Everything that makes a game for realistic is nice, actually.

And pull is a bad idea, IMO. There would be a lot of abuse.....

Azrael666
02-28-2004, 07:41 PM
Would I be right in thinkin this means that in order to work all the games model.glm files need to be replaces? or can it work around that?

Looks very cool, though the lightsaber should attatch to the hip a bit lower if possible.

Also as a suggestion can you make it so that using two blaster pistols at once looks better? When I spawn CultistCommando one gun is held properly, the other is held at a very strange angle. It would be cool if openjedi could fix this.

Lightning
02-28-2004, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by Darth54
Hey, that looks really nice :D

Everything that makes a game for realistic is nice, actually.

if they would make it that holding a heavy weapon makes you walk slower afther a while like in darkforces we'll see if you think the same about it. :rolleyes:

Kurgan
02-28-2004, 11:52 PM
Darkforces had weapons make you walk slower? I didn't know that!

I always somewhat dislike the idea myself because it struck me as illogical.

Why would holding a weapon make you walk slower if carrying it (in your backpack) wouldn't?

Though I suppose you could say that you have to "hold it steady" or something like that to justify making you move slower.

But then there's always Force Speed/Rage. ; )


The weapons on the clothes thing reminds me of the last two Indiana Jones games. In those you had the Machete on your back, gun in your holster, whip at your side, etc.

The only problem was that there were still so many weapons that it didn't show them all, only the more recent ones used (example: only one gun in the holster, only one big weapon on the back, and one on each hip).

Still, it was somewhat more realistic. I guess strategically that means you can't hide what weapons you're carrying, though somebody would have to get close to see exactly which ones.

I imagine the "lightsaber on the hip" thing would be a boon to roleplayers, though I wonder something...

Right now you have the "saber off" thing, but would the saber appear on your belt for saber off, or would it only do so when you've switch to something else (ie: gun, fists if its a mod that lets you use fists and saber together, etc)?


Even if it's not used in gameplay, something like this would certainly be useful in cutscenes and stuff like that.

[ASJN] Balboa
02-29-2004, 01:49 AM
two probs: one is that it will impead with jetpack, the tails of the twi'lek and other models with capes and the like. second it will give admins an excuse to admin lame you if you don't have one holstered.

Crow_Nest
02-29-2004, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by [ASJN] Balboa
second it will give admins an excuse to admin lame you if you don't have one holstered.

Heh, then there would be a new rule made. :D So is it gonna be an MP mod or both a MP and SP mod?

TK-8252
02-29-2004, 04:29 AM
Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest
So is it gonna be an MP mod or both a MP and SP mod? Heh, I asked this same question at another thread about this. Unless they can get the single player source code, it remains in multiplayer only. :(

razorace
02-29-2004, 05:09 AM
Originally posted by [ASJN] Balboa
two probs: one is that it will impead with jetpack, the tails of the twi'lek and other models with capes and the like. second it will give admins an excuse to admin lame you if you don't have one holstered.

The system requires that you customize it per model (since each model is a bit different). Right now we're using new model tag surfaces to place the weapons, but are considering another possible way that would be done with an external text file.

keshire
03-04-2004, 11:22 AM
It looks like we're going with the tag code after all. The code will be in and models will follow shortly, I'm the only one currently working on these OJP enhanced models so if anyone wants to volunteer please please please do so.

bolt_holster_saber
saber2
staff
blaster
launcher
and golan

Is what we're going with.

If the tag ain't there the weapon(s) associated with it won't show up. So if the Model has a cape You may want to leave the tags located on the back out. Or move it/them somewhere else that makes sense to you.

-=DarkZero=-
03-04-2004, 01:43 PM
I'm just complimenting on the mod, It looks frigging sweeeet.

But I got nothing to say other wise.

keshire
03-05-2004, 03:56 AM
Just a reminder this code will be available to all. Being OJP and all. So you coders may want to encourage the modellers to start incorporating these tags.

LukeKatarn
03-05-2004, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest
It would be cool that we could holster our sabers/guns to our belt thingys :) :cool:

But the way the saber is holstered in that screen looks kinda weird. Sorry:band: but I have to dissagree with you I think it looks cool like this smiley:bdroid2:

-=DarkZero=-
03-06-2004, 04:57 AM
Just a question, Willl player's be able to use this on any impure server, like skins, or will it be comming out as a mod?

keshire
03-06-2004, 05:43 AM
A mod. But the source is available for any to use. Then its up to model makers to support it. OJP will be releasing some of the standard models updated to include this feature.

keshire
03-06-2004, 11:01 AM
MMM, next model...Perfectly weighted. Luckily I learned some tricks from an old artist friend who got me into Multimedia. The fingers aren't done and I may need to tweak the tags. But here are the pics.

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Mar/2004362434637095088394.jpg
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Mar/2004362481415208214562.jpg
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Mar/2004362715864277987441.jpg

Tinny
03-06-2004, 03:32 PM
whoa, very nice man

Master_Keralys
03-06-2004, 04:02 PM
Those look really sweet. Nicely done. I can't wait to see these in OJPE...

LukeKatarn
03-06-2004, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by keshire
Something OJP has been working on. And hopefully we can ge the backing of some of the popular Model makers.

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/20042283186642812816056.jpg

I added in a couple of new tags.

bolt_holster_saber
saber2
staff
blaster
&
launcher Whare do I download the mod?

TK-8252
03-06-2004, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by LukeKatarn
Whare do I download the mod? It's not finished yet, just hold on. :)

LukeKatarn
03-07-2004, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by TK-8252
It's not finished yet, just hold on. :) Ok thx.:D

Crow_Nest
03-07-2004, 04:53 AM
Whoa man thats cool! Now i can be heavily armed with weapons like kyle in that screen :D

keshire
03-09-2004, 05:22 AM
It's not finished yet, just hold on.

Hopefully It ,as well as a few standard models, will be in the next release. Razor said he has the code done to support the tags. Its just a matter of model support now. I'm working as quick as possible though. Wish I had some help...

keshire
03-09-2004, 08:01 AM
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Mar/2004393478342260865377.jpg

I have the Max4.2 file, xsi, and model zipped up for any that want it to help with their own models.

I also gave it too Razor Ace to up to the OJP repository.

El Sitherino
03-09-2004, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by keshire
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Mar/2004393478342260865377.jpg

I have the Max4.2 file, xsi, and model zipped up for any that want it to help with their own models.

I also gave it too Razor Ace to up to the OJP repository. I believe ksk h2o wished to use this.

Malak is NOT finished yet. I need to finish the shader, add weighing to the face, and add the bolts that make him compatible with OJP.

ah yeah, he did. You can see the thread here (http://lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=121464&perpage=40&pagenumber=6)

LukeKatarn
03-09-2004, 06:30 PM
Looking good I cant wait till this comes out!!!!!!!

keshire
03-10-2004, 08:35 AM
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Mar/20043106908375210840502.jpg
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Mar/20043101720318860713349.jpg

Chewie with Launcher and Blaster tag only.

LukeKatarn
03-10-2004, 11:12 AM
Looking real good!

Crow_Nest
03-11-2004, 05:06 AM
GooD! Very good!

This must be the first holsterlered weapons mod since jk2!

razorace
03-11-2004, 06:20 AM
Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest
GooD! Very good!

This must be the first holsterlered weapons mod since jk2!

There was a holstered weapons mod in JK2?

Crow_Nest
03-11-2004, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by razorace
There was a holstered weapons mod in JK2?

I dont think so. :confused:

Lightning
03-11-2004, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest
I dont think so. :confused:

Then why say there was one in the first place?:rolleyes:

-=DarkZero=-
03-11-2004, 05:42 PM
Who cares :P I can't wait till the code is released so I can get my dirty little hands on it.

TK-8252
03-11-2004, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest
This must be the first holsterlered weapons mod since jk2!

Originally posted by razorace
There was a holstered weapons mod in JK2?

Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest
I dont think so. :confused: :confused: <--- That sums it up pretty well.

LukeKatarn
03-14-2004, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by TK-8252
:confused: <--- That sums it up pretty well. Yeah realy that makes no sense:p I agree with TK-8252

Crow_Nest
03-14-2004, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by LukeKatarn
Yeah realy that makes no sense:p I agree with TK-8252

Crap, sorry i wasnt paying attention. But there was a holsterled weapons mod in jk2, but it wasnt released on places like jk2files, or pcgamemods.

LukeKatarn
04-30-2004, 06:37 PM
I revived this thread because I WANT THIS MOD.

razorace
04-30-2004, 06:49 PM
Well, at least one beta release is coming out tomorrow.

Master William
05-01-2004, 07:25 AM
Sounds like fun, I think this should be in all mods. Anyway, keshire, do you plan to make a Merc vs Jedi sort of option? And I hope you remove the Force Pull effect (Jedi's constantly spamming Pull on Mercs, rendering them useless instantly).

LukeKatarn
05-03-2004, 10:40 AM
This mod is a good idea but I think it belongs in the showcase forum.

Crow_Nest
05-04-2004, 03:45 AM
Originally posted by razorace
Well, at least one beta release is coming out tomorrow.

Hey tomorrow is already over, anywhere i can d/l it?

razorace
05-04-2004, 05:02 AM
sorry about that, I can't always keep track of every thread I've posted in.

Anyway, the new betas are linked from the OJP website (ojp.jediknight.net).

keshire
05-20-2004, 03:59 AM
http://www.aotctc.com/forums/files/stormie.jpg

I've got quite few modls done now since I have the original player xsi from Raven. And I've been able to keep the LODs which should make some of you happy.

anyways, here you go. Standard Stormtrooper. :)

TK-8252
05-20-2004, 07:58 AM
*Now HapSlash's Storm and Sandtroopers need this...*

keshire
05-20-2004, 08:00 AM
It was mentioned in his thread, but I believe he ignored me.

t3rr0r
05-21-2004, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by keshire
It was mentioned in his thread, but I believe he ignored me.
i'm sure had he been the one weighting his model he would have considered.

HapSlash
05-27-2004, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by keshire
It was mentioned in his thread, but I believe he ignored me. Sorry if you felt ignored, but by the time you posted I had
already started submitting the JO versions, and had finally
received the JA glm's back from the guy who had been
weighting the model.

It was hard enough trying to get him to make the corrections
I had originally asked for, so I felt that any other additions
at this time would delay the model yet again.

I have been thinking about releasing an updated version
of the model with the holstered weapon tags, and other
various fixes, but I'm still waiting on the Imperial Officer,...

keshire
05-27-2004, 02:36 AM
Ah, if thats the case then no problem and no hurt feelings. I'm usually not one thats ignored so I knew something was up. So I didn't push the issue. :)

ZBomber
05-27-2004, 04:29 PM
Now, if we wanna use this, Should we request in this thread? I ask because the OJP site said read "Using our Work" section, but I couldn't find it :)

BTW, Its looking REALLY good.

razorace
05-27-2004, 06:56 PM
The Using our Work section is in the readme. I beleive that has been posted on the website.

ZBomber
05-27-2004, 08:25 PM
OK, didn't check the file. Thanks. :)

razorace
05-27-2004, 09:08 PM
You're welcome.

keshire
05-28-2004, 12:50 AM
Well Strangely You really don't need to give credit for adding the tags. If you pull them straight out of the example tools you may say so. But otherwise I'd just list that the model is OJP compatible somewhere in your readme. :)