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Mo Goya
03-24-2004, 08:00 PM
Should Bush be put into office again? Yes or no? I think thats a hard question because Bush has some of the right ideas but some wrong ones too. Should he really be put into office again? What do you think?

SamNMax
03-24-2004, 10:13 PM
Bush sucks. I'm never voting even when I can because the Democrats blow and the Republicans suck.

Mo Goya
03-24-2004, 10:43 PM
Bush did some "questionable" things to say the least, but he has some right ideas of trying to make the U.S. a better place. I like Laura Bush though, she seems like she is a really nice person. Or thats what they want you to think.

Mo Goya
03-24-2004, 10:46 PM
Also, this is kind of off subject but what does everybody think about the Dixie Chicks, the band. You know how they said they were ashamed Bush was from Texas in some other country, was that wrong or what? Even though Bush is not that great its still not a good idea to insult the President in another country, its just plain wrong.

Alien426
03-25-2004, 04:59 AM
Originally posted by SamNMax
I'm never voting even when I can...
That's just plain stupid!
Originally posted by Mo Goya
its still not a good idea to insult the President in another country, its just plain wrong.
Stooopid, too.

That's what I think and I say it. This is called 'freedom of speech'. It's practiced in some countries. Not the US, though.

Yufster
03-25-2004, 05:24 AM
In Full Throttle, at the end, when you have the flight controls, you can choose to phone the President.

This is just one of the wonderful random facts given on a daily basis by Yufster.

Huz
03-25-2004, 08:00 AM
I say he should go into AN office an, you know, stay there.

ptdc
03-25-2004, 02:44 PM
What about THE office?

SamNMax
03-25-2004, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by Alien426
That's just plain stupid!
Well, unless there's a canidate running that I agree with, but otherwise, I'm just plain stupid. :D

Huz
03-25-2004, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by ptdc
What about THE office? I can see him being a Gareth type. It would be ace.

Alien426
03-25-2004, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by SamNMax
Well, unless there's a canidate running that I agree with, but otherwise, I'm just plain stupid. :D
Sorry, I guess there will only be politicians. You won't agree with a candidate.

Emma
03-25-2004, 08:14 PM
Considering he didn't even win the election last time, but still got into office and was responsible for a stack of contravercial decisions? No, I don't think he should.

Das Mole
03-25-2004, 09:51 PM
goya, i don't think this thread should be titled "bush or no bush?", but rather, "are you a democrat or a republican?". that's basically what you're asking. i doubt anybody will say anything that actually makes sense except for kind of generalizing democrats or republicans and then focusing all that onto bush. kind of like a scapegoat. i think the only type of thing said will be "bush sucks because he's a republican" or "kerry sucks because he's a democrat" or "bush rules because he's a republican" or "kerry rules because he's a democrat" or saying no to bush because of one thing or whatever.

i honestly have no opinion, i don't care about politics and honestly don't prefer republicans over democrats or vice versa. i'm unopinionated.

JofaGuht
03-25-2004, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by Yufster
In Full Throttle, at the end, when you have the flight controls, you can choose to phone the President.

This is just one of the wonderful random facts given on a daily basis by Yufster.

That's an homage to Dr. Strangelove. The password to self-destruct is "purity of essence".

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Anyway, no, I definitely do not think he should be re-elected, and I disagree with most things he's done in office. You know, U.S.'s deficit is in danger of throwing the whole global economy out of balance. That's the first time that's happened in history. And though I would prefer Clark to Kerry, I would much rather have Bush out of office.

-J.C.'s opinionated liberal view

Guybrush122
03-25-2004, 11:58 PM
ANYONE BUT BUSH
2004

SamNMax
03-27-2004, 05:33 PM
I'm supposed to be democrat, but as I said before, democrat=blows republican=sucks. Though, in my oppinion democrat>republican

JofaGuht
03-27-2004, 10:48 PM
I think that's an issue. It's almost like the fight between republicans and democrats is a war of "good and evil" in itself. Not that I'm calling either of them good or evil, but remember aboout forty years ago when the whole country was working together? This liberal-conservative fight is almost like a competition between businesses. I think (though a lot of people say it was the clinton admistration) that the country stopped working together around the time JFK was assinated, and that's when I believe US really broke into two sides. It's sad.

Skinkie
03-28-2004, 05:40 AM
Wait the thread title mentions bush and it's about politics? ...I have been completely misled.



Ray knows what I'm talking about...

ptdc
03-28-2004, 05:43 PM
I think it's time to prune Bush!

Sivy
03-29-2004, 10:25 AM
i so thought this poll was about something else

*does a few Hail Marys*


anyway,

yeah Bush has to go, the guy's an idiot

Ray Jones
03-29-2004, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Skinkie
Ray knows what I'm talking about...

errmm...


panties?

bush is wearing panties?


bush climbs walls, wearing nothing but panties? xs-sized?



secretly?

so that nobody knows it?

Emma
03-29-2004, 07:40 PM
Whilst we're on the subject of right-wing facists (haw haw) will any fellow Brits be voting for Tony Blair to stay in charge of the country?

I sure as hell won't, then again I don't even vote Labour. I usually vote Scottish National Party, but I reckon I'll vote Liberal Democrats this time round as it means we're a step closer to getting a government that isn't Tory or Labour (who are, essentially, the same but with different names).

ptdc
03-29-2004, 10:17 PM
I might not vote, because I can't really see a party that I'd like in power. I think we should seize power ;)

Emma
03-29-2004, 11:50 PM
I know how you feel.

Let's overthrow the monarchy whilst we're at it.

JofaGuht
03-30-2004, 02:25 AM
I'm really glad that my previous post touched so many hearts...I can see that people are finally getting more open-minded....

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Jeez, Not all people that you disagree are you're enemies.

Sivy
03-30-2004, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by ptdc
I might not vote, because I can't really see a party that I'd like in power.

yeah, i haven't voted in years. and not because i have to get up ealry and go out, no, but because there's no one worth voting for. nowadays people just vote for the party they dislike least.

i think Shane Richie should be PM, or maybe Jonathan wRoss
:D

Joshi
03-30-2004, 10:12 AM
I recently turned 18 and can now vote. Who should I vote for? (rhetorical by the way) The Monster Raving Loony Part for having the best name. Actually, I'll probably vote GP because me and my friends made a pact that we would when able to.
Or I might just go back on it and make sure Blair stays out of number 10.

Skinkie
03-30-2004, 03:01 PM
Flat Earth Party all the way baby!

Herman Toothdecay
04-07-2004, 05:49 PM
I'd vote for Bush, not that I agree with his new government programs and immigrant policies, but when I look at John Kerry I get the dry heaves; his policies and ideals are more socialistic than democratic. However, I don't want to risk getting drafted during college so I don't think I'll be voting this year when I turn 18 =) .

Also, I really wish people would stop saying that Bush didn't win the election because he didn't win the popular vote. You see, in America, we were smart and came up with a system so that based on the population of any given state, the candidate who wins in that state gets a certain number of Electoral Collegate votes. In this way, the smaller states don't have as much of an affect on the outcome of the vote as larger states do. Don't be ignorant, my fellow Americans, please; our country's future depends on it.

=)

Joshi
04-07-2004, 06:29 PM
Okay, so either there was a typo there you you just said that if you live in a smaller state, there's really no point in voting because it won't make any difference. Please note I don't live in the US and so don't know if what you said was right or not. Please inform me.

Oh and sorry, but
Originally said by the guy directly above this post... Herman... something
Don't be ignorant, my fellow Americans,

I'm sorry, but it's so easy to make a joke out of that that I just won't bother. But I'm sure 90% of you non- americans (and even some americans) will come up with something silently in their heads.

Oh, and in England, we simply count the votes and the guy with the most wins. This works on the playground and it works in government which just goes to show that if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

JofaGuht
04-07-2004, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by Joshi
Okay, so either there was a typo there you you just said that if you live in a smaller state, there's really no point in voting because it won't make any difference. Please note I don't live in the US and so don't know if what you said was right or not. Please inform me.

The electoral college is based on the number of senators a state has. And that is usually based on populaton. Say, Bush wins the popluar vote in Missouri, he'll get 12 electoral votes. This isn't as important as say, California, which has like 58. But it's winner takes all, so say Gore got 49.9% of the popular vote in California, and Bush got 50.1%, Bush will get all 58 votes or whatever California has. So he'll want to campaign in California instead of say Montana which has like 3 electoral votes. See the problem with the election of 2000, Gore won the popular vote but Bush won the electoral college. So, basically more people voted for Gore, but Bush won anyway. This system makes a little sense in the fact that what the population of California thinks is much more important than what the population of Montana thinks, though I think just having a system of whoever wins the popular votes is much more fair.

As much as it's true that USA is arrogant, self-important, and somewhat ignorant, let sleeping dogs lie for now. Because of these reasons USA is $6 trillion dollars in debt and so just let this country lose power globally. I would care, but I'm moving out of this place once I get the chance and that chance isn't too far away.

Guybrush122
04-08-2004, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by Herman Toothdecay
I'd vote for Bush, not that I agree with his new government programs and immigrant policies, but when I look at John Kerry I get the dry heaves; his policies and ideals are more socialistic than democratic. However, I don't want to risk getting drafted during college so I don't think I'll be voting this year when I turn 18 =) .

Also, I really wish people would stop saying that Bush didn't win the election because he didn't win the popular vote. You see, in America, we were smart and came up with a system so that based on the population of any given state, the candidate who wins in that state gets a certain number of Electoral Collegate votes. In this way, the smaller states don't have as much of an affect on the outcome of the vote as larger states do. Don't be ignorant, my fellow Americans, please; our country's future depends on it.

=)



1) I'd rather have a socialist president than a fascist, illiterate, numbskull as one.
2) Always vote.
3) Bush didn't win the election because he STOLE the election. There was a great number of people who "voted" for him that had been deceased for quite some time.
4) "Don't be ignorant, my fellow Americans" ? Ahahahahahaha





Funny.





No really.

Joshi
04-08-2004, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by JofaGuht
As much as it's true that USA is arrogant, self-important, and somewhat ignorant, let sleeping dogs lie for now. Because of these reasons USA is $6 trillion dollars in debt and so just let this country lose power globally. I would care, but I'm moving out of this place once I get the chance and that chance isn't too far away.

As long as we're reading from the same page here (or at least in the same library)

I still stick with the popularity vote, it just makes more sense that we adopt a leader we all want.

SamNMax
04-08-2004, 10:07 PM
To all the cowards hiding behind Bush: Now, I'm not the smartest man in the world by any means (most of you know that), but I remember a portion of certain speech by Mr. George W. Bush, that went a little something like this:

There's an old saying down in Texas that says, "Fool me once... Shame on... Shame on... Shame on you.... But fool me then, we won't get fooled again.

Now, if you're as dumb as him, and you think that that's the actuall saying, then you're pro Bush. I know this one kid in my school who is generally smart except when it comes to politics. He says that unfortunatly, democrats rule this country...


Does that not piss you of, right there? This ass obviusly doesn't know that more than 60 goddamn % of the people in office are republican. He also says that democrats are communists and should get out of this "Great Country". Now, I'm democrat because my family owns a small bussiness, and yet he still thinks that my parents should quit there jobs and catch the next bus to Hick City, USA (Texas). When I argue with him about who's the better president, Bill "Slick Willy" Clinton or Bush "There's an old saying" Dubya, he always says thyat Clinton would have declared peace with Iraq, and we'd get bombed the **** outa. Now I am no means a Clinton fan, but even if the guy did get a hummer by sopmeone who wasn't his wife, he would have done a damn better job than Bush. But anyway, I always win the arguement because I bring up the "Old Saying" Speech. If you ever get in an arguement with one of these people, just bring the "Old Saying" Speech. It never fails.





BUSH 4 PR3SID3NT LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111ONE2111111122221111111111!

Ernil
04-09-2004, 04:55 AM
BUSH 4 PR3SID3NT LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111ONE2111111122221111111111!









Ar. Irony.

Joshi
04-09-2004, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by Ernil
Ar.

Ahh, even more Irony.

But You have to admit, apart from the whole Clinton fiasco, he was a better pres than Bush. if you forget about the scandal, he wasn't as bad by far as Bush is.

And by the way, in my last post I said
"I still stick with the popularity vote, it just makes more sense that we adopt a leader we all want."

Yes, I do see the irony in the fact that even though we took the popularity vote we still ended up with Blair, but it's got to go wrong at some point right? I mean Thatcher wasn't too bad and Major was okay.
meh, whatever.

Isak
04-10-2004, 11:52 PM
Typical "Delete Me!" topic..?






Oh, I voted "No way"!... Whatever that means :rolleyes:

Guybrush122
04-11-2004, 03:46 AM
Isac, I thought I'd let you know...your, um, marshmellow thing is dancing....

Isak
04-13-2004, 06:23 PM
It's not a marshmallow, it's a sheep. And he dosn't only dance; he jumps to.