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Lt. Havoc
04-16-2004, 11:55 PM
Interesting how when BF1942 came out and mods were first springing up there was one going to be directly named after Star Wars. The obvious copyright infringement forced those guys to change their name to Galactic Conquest. BF1942's format had perfect Star Wars transition written all over it. Hell, the Empire was modeled after Nazi Germany and most of the prop weapons in the classic triology were modified ww2 weapons. So the poor boys making the GC mod worked to play by the rules. Now an official game is coming out and will be covering the same territory but I find it funny that the game play mode is being referred to as "Galactic Conquest". Too bad for the little guy in this case.

lukeiamyourdad
04-17-2004, 12:14 AM
Galactic Conquest and SWBF will be two different games. SWBF won't be stopped by the limitations of the BF1942 engine.

Played GC 0.2? Frigates sinking in space, you swimming in space, your starfighter sinking in space?
It has a long way to go and I don't think it can fight against SWBF.

slapshot16
04-23-2004, 01:43 AM
yeah but it gives the devs something to strive for... making it better than GC which better happen lol

Whoopknacker
04-23-2004, 12:10 PM
Simply time or money would not allow BF42 mod Galactic Conquest to get no where near SWBF. Still they had no intentions on so doing. Unfortuneately so many fans were eager to play it that it just was overhyped and stunk when it was first released. Fans got burned and the mod hasnt catched on as well as they would probably liked. There are just too many cool features in SWBF that they are going to include. Then comes Battlefield Modern Combat, oh man that is going to be awesome.

Alegis
04-23-2004, 09:02 PM
modern combat looks awful. Bf 2 looks good though, you can destroy buildings. I couldnt care less for bf1942, cant be bothered yet by bf:v but bf2 looks good, next summer

SWBF will pwn galactic conquest, its a mod full with bugs and lags, though its free it wont touch swbf

Lt. Havoc
04-24-2004, 12:30 AM
I think something got lost in the translation.

What I was pointing out was Galactic Conquest (the mod) changed their original name so as to avoid copyright infringement. So instead of Star Wars Battlefields its called Galactic Conquest. Now the official Star Wars game is coming out but what do they call their mode of game play "Galactic Conquest". I was pointing out the irony of how the modders worked to do things right name-wise but Pandemic/lucasarts had no reservations calling their work Galactic Conquest.

Star Wars inspired the modders.
Maybe the modders inspired the people at Star Wars.

Get it?

I wasn't comparing the 2 games. I didn't like the mod so much but I sure as hell admired their work and efforts. Something to be said for people working out of love versus those who get paid.

lukeiamyourdad
04-24-2004, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by Alegis Gensan
SWBF will pwn galactic conquest, its a mod full with bugs

I have no doubt SWBF will be better but perhaps you should take a deeper look at GC. They don't have lots of cash, they don't have lots of ressources and overall they're only at .3
I'm pretty sure SWBF .3 is as laggy and buggy as GC .3

Evil Dark Jedi
04-25-2004, 12:02 PM
Interesting how when BF1942 came out and mods were first springing up there was one going to be directly named after Star Wars.

Yep!

:bdroid2:

Dagobahn Eagle
05-15-2004, 08:41 PM
Galactic Conquest is still at version 0.3. In developer-language, that means it's far less than 30% done.

Comparing GC and SWBF, in my opinion, is slightly unfair because SWBF is a commercial game made by a company with hundreds of thousands of dollars to spend, while Galactic Conquest is a free modification:). Also, it's a pretty big step to make. I mean, from ground combat to zero-gravity space combat? There are a lot of things that have to be taken into consideration and a lot of compromises to be made. Add to that that they cannot edit the engine itself too much as it's easy to bump into breaches of the license agreement, and you're getting a slight idea.

Give the GC team $100,000 and free editing of the BF1942 engine and I'm sure they'll be fine:).

Middie

Schetter
05-15-2004, 11:14 PM
GC could have been REAL cool even at this early state. There are two major things they did wrong:

The maps are too HUGE. Mods don't get a widspread player base right off the bat no matter what you pack into it. That means not that many servers are going to host it and they're not going to be very populated. It's frustrating and a turn-off if you have to trek/drive for 2-3 minutes just to get close to the action, only to engage in a firefight that lasts 10 seconds. Fun.

They tried too hard, too early with all the freakin vehicles. Some are just plain unnecessary. For instance, the huge, immensely detailed Jabba's Skiff in the Tattoine map is cool, sure - but totally useless, unnecessary, and a lag monster. Instead of concentrating on making a worthwhile gaming experience through map design, they instead decided to throw a bunch of time into modeling huge, cumbersome vehicles with no real purpose.

The key to any mod success is get people hooked early. These two things drove me away from an otherwise promsing BF mod.

lukeiamyourdad
05-16-2004, 04:44 PM
So true. Almost all the maps are simply made for 64 players engagin each other. It shouldn't have been this way.

Only one map had cool firefights and it"s GC_Judicator. The rest are vehicle maps.

That's the problem I think. They simply concentrate on vehicles and left standard firefights outside. It may be fun to pilot an X-Wing or a Tie or riding an AT-ST but when it's only about that it gets boring.

I hope they revamp their maps for .4

Dagobahn Eagle
05-16-2004, 07:48 PM
Just out of curiousity, does GC support the original BF1942 maps? It'd be cool to fight in Berlin as a stormtrooper:).

I definetly agree with the size part. I think Battlefield Viet Nam found a good compromise between size and number of vehicles. The maps are big, but still most of the fighting is on foot.

Then again, GC is a fan-based TC. If you post your opinions on their fourms, I suppose they will listen.

lukeiamyourdad
05-17-2004, 10:30 AM
I used to post on their forums...urgh...kept getting flamed by people who said that the maps were fine...and so idiotic troll that I sent 1 000 000 pm to the mods about and nobody ever did anything about it(he kept making very racist comments, I mean KKK racist). Feels like PlanetBattlefield...


And I think there's a way to include the GC models and weapons into the original maps. I'll have to look into it but I think it's possible to tranfer it. Right now it doesn't support it but I think that'll be cool.

Dagobahn Eagle
05-17-2004, 06:59 PM
(...)he kept making very racist comments, I mean KKK racist(...)
Tell me his tag/user name so that I can avoid him. I generally try to stay away from things like that.

(Looks at avatar)...is that a.. girl.. or...:p

Well, there'll be more maps for GC. At least a few of them have to be small.. I hope.

lukeiamyourdad
05-17-2004, 10:26 PM
I think it's the Duggler. Dunno if he's still there I left the place a long while ago.

And yes I have a woman as an avatar. But I'm a guy. Serious. I just like to put up a mask and pretend I'm a woman, is that too much too ask?! Nah seriously I just find her hot.

Back on topic. That's what I like about Judicator. Most of the flags are close enough to have lots of firefights.

[GCDev]Preacher
05-18-2004, 12:35 PM
Hi, this is Preacher from teh Galactic Conquest forums. and yes believe it or not i take time out of my day to search these battlefront forums incase anyone brings up Galactic Conquest or has any issues or complaints or anything.

Alot of he stuff i have seen on these boards about GC is negative saying SWBF is gonna own it etc etc. so i have ignored those, and tbh i expect it seen as though this is an SWBF board hehe.

btw duggler is a fool, and a forum trool. Please do not be put off by people like that. and yes we DO listen to everything ANYONE has to say about the mod, i dont care if your a noob to GC, a veteran, or just a casual gamer, if you have anything constructive to say (not flameing or anything) then yes i personally read every suggestion, and have done ever since we created an ideas and suggestions board, and believe me, we have included LOTS and LOTS of suggestions from users. such as the slave 1, the hoth rebel binocular view, sniper rifle tweaks, game balance tweaks etc etc. many things we have added.

and of course we know we have catered mainly for flight craft and large levels. but that was simply because of the maps we chose. Tatooine wouldnt feel right if ii was small closed combat, and it wouldnt feel desert like. thats why we have spin off maps such as beggers canyon, and we currently have an infantry only base map in the works based on The city of Mos eisly.

Just because we may not have what you want right now, does not mean we suck or should never be looked at again. we WILL eventually get round to doing all the things you guys want. e.g. 0.4 is essentialy all infantry/ground vehicle based patch. adding in many tanks, APC's, infantry only maps, etc. (with the addition of the user made competition winner maps)

remember we dont get paid to do this, its all in our spare time. thats why it takes us longer to get round to making everything the way you guys want.

So please please, dont dissmiss us all together, if we dont have what you want atm, simply keep checking on us, see how we are doing and if we get things in that you would like to play, give us a go.

At the very least you can look at us as something to pass the time until battlefront comes out :)

thx for your time
Preacher

p.s. dontforget if you do have anything youd like to suggest please pop over to our site, we ALWAYS listen to the public :)

Schetter
05-18-2004, 04:04 PM
It's good to know you listen to the community, glad to hear that the .4 patch will include some smaller maps. Word.

I'm excited.

lukeiamyourdad
05-18-2004, 04:35 PM
I hope that wasn't directed toward me...

I still play GC.

yet they know about duggler but don't react...yay...

GC is a good mod(hell, a lot better then DC).
SWBF will still be better because they have lots of cash:D

[GCDev]Preacher
05-18-2004, 07:16 PM
yeh im looking forward to SWBF as much as the next guy.

kinda bummed out a bit that we were instructed to change our name from Star Wars Battlefield Abbrev SWBF. so that Star Wars battlefront could be abbre to SWBF, yet they call there single player mode Galactic Conquest :/

dunno whether to take that as a compliment or not lol.

and no it wasnt directed to you, other than the duggler comment, because duggler is a fool. but jolt is in charge of banning and stuff on the forums, and trying to get through to jolt to ban someone is quite frankly a loosing battle, theres alot of red tape to go through im afraid, and undeniable proof of there miss doings etc.

but basically i was aiming it at anyone, that we do care what people think, and we do care about their opinions, and in all honesty, until battlefront comes out we are the only game in existance that does everything you guys are on this forum looking for.

but anyway enough explanations i know your opinions are your own etc, but dont hesitate to come and join us at GC, and if you do happen to come play and you meet me online, give me a shout, say your from teh SWBF forums or something and ill team up with you (i love teamplay kicks ass!)

p.s. SWBF looks so kewl :D

lukeiamyourdad
05-18-2004, 07:30 PM
Yeah I think I'll come back...I do have some comments(especially on the MonCal map which is your best balance between gunfights and vehicles).