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NFS_Rogue
04-23-2004, 05:23 AM
Hi, I'm new here and don't go much on forums at all so I hope that this has been put in the right section. My problem is that I recently purchased the proper version of 'the curse of monkey island' for my kids and I can't seem to get it to run properly for them. The game starts and I talk to a short pirate and obtain his hook. After that the blonde guy speaks and then he keeps repeatedly saying the same line as though it is skipping. I have uninstalled the game and then reinstalled it hoping it will work again for them but the problem persists. I have checked the game discs for scratches and don't find any. Can anyone possibly tell me if this thing is common or if others have experienced the same thing and the best way to fix it.

I'm not very technically minded when it comes to things regarding game files so can an explanation be written simply.

I know that there are also programs like phantom cd or virtual cd that allow you to load the originals and play the game off the HDD rather than from disc. Would this help at all or is it something related to the computer itself.

I'm running the game under xp home edition, 520mb ram, geforce 4 card, pentium 4 3.06mhz computer.

Could someone also tell me how to save the game as I haven't been able to play for a period longer than 5 minutes before the skipping of speech starts and have to exit back to desktop.

Thanking for any help offered in advance.

Joshi
04-23-2004, 09:21 PM
Firstly, pressing F1 goes to the ingame menue where you can save and load and so on. Also, try either pressing the period button on the keyboard, or clickng both mouse keys at once (left and right if you have 3 buttons on your mouse.) to skip past the dialogue.

If this doesn't work, then go to this website (just click it)

http://quick.mixnmojo.com

And download a file called Scummvm Quick and Easy.

This is a small (very small) program and is very widely used so don't worry about it messing up your system or anything.

The file is here

http://quick.mixnmojo.com/files/ScummVMQuickAndEasy1.3.5.zip (just click and it should download)

Extract the files adn then double click on the file called ScummVM Q+E.

Click on the button marked Daily Build and it'll download other files that are needed to make this work.

Then, just click on the drop down box with the list of games and find yours (Monkey Island 3 (CMI))

select a graphics filter (I suggest High quiality x2) and sound mode PC speaker
forget about language and infact the rest. find the destination path (the path of the installed game files) and then click on run and it should work.

If you don't want to do this every time, before running, make a shortcut so you can just double click on that. if it doen't work, play around with the settings on this program and it should help.

Neil
;)

NFS_Rogue
04-24-2004, 11:27 AM
Thanks heaps..its appreciated. Maybe the game will now work for them. Is this thing pretty common for 'curse'???

Skinkie
04-26-2004, 03:53 AM
On newer windows systems it's almost a garunteed problem.

NFS_Rogue
04-29-2004, 12:21 AM
Sorry about the delay in replying to your post. I downloaded the scummvm thing but when trying to get it to work windonws xp home ed. wouldn't let me open it and get the daily build thing. It just gave me the small windows error screen saying do you want to send a report to microsoft.. Any ideas on how to bypass this.....thanks.

Joshi
04-29-2004, 04:36 AM
This has never happened befoe as far as I know. Best thing to do would be to download it again, it may have been something to do with the download. It's a pretty simple program and is built to be run on XP (that being it's main objective of making old dos games work in XP).

Hope this helps.

NFS_Rogue
04-29-2004, 08:44 PM
Guys, I was looking over one of them old pc game cd's that you get with computer magazines and located a program called Abandon Loader 0.8 Beta version which got the game working fine. I expected it to at least trip up once and start repeating the speech or stalling but it hasn't happened. It can be obtained from the following site as a reference for others:

http://www.angelfire.com/realm/zeroone/


The kids are happy that the game is now working and thanks heaps for your advice along the way. I have downloaded a wlakthrough for the game so that they aren't kept waiting for too long (given their young ages) and are stumbling over what letters to use to get him to talk and pick things up etc. I've managed to get to where I escape from the boat and then got back on the island. I am suppose to go to the theater backstage door, get the dandruff from the pirate coat and find out that it's actually lice, also get the glove from the coat. I can't find the theatre and nearly all the doors around the theatre (or what I think is one) is locked. I try and get him to pick the lock using a pin but he won't do it....any suggestions. Thanx.

Skinkie
04-29-2004, 10:41 PM
There's a small door on the left side of the building, it's never locked or anything, you just walk in.

Joshi
04-30-2004, 06:58 AM
It is locked sometimes. Please note that nothing will open yet until you talk to the voodoo lady in the swamp. Then everything will be open.

NFS_Rogue
05-02-2004, 03:16 AM
ok thanks, will go back to the swamp and try to find this mysterious voodoo woman. Ain't sure how I could have missed her but I guess she's still there..lol.

NFS_Rogue
05-15-2004, 06:00 AM
Hey guys, after the post about searching for the voodoo lady my kids and I went on a quest to find her in the swamp area. She wasn't there so we started the game again and got to the same point only not to find her. The doors are still locked so need a bit of help here to find her whereabouts so as to move forward in the game....thanks heaps..

Skinkie
05-15-2004, 11:41 AM
In the swamp you need to go into the big ship (you have to stop and talk to Murray first). At that point you need to experiment with the scenery a bit. Maybe give some of it a pull. Maybe some of it that's red and hanging.



Only read this next part if you want the full solution, I can't remember how to make the spoiler tags unfortunately...


Just pull the tongue hanging out of the alligators mouth and she will appear.

NFS_Rogue
05-17-2004, 11:31 PM
Thanks heaps for that as I have gone and clicked on all different parts of the swamp and all it does it take me to the front of the ship. I've even tried using a combination of the stuff in the inventory ie; pins etc to see if it helps. I will go and grab the tongue because every time I have gone out of the swamp and back in hoping she'd appear it didn't work.....sorry for being a pain..

Skinkie
05-18-2004, 02:46 PM
It's no problem, we're always happy to help a new fan get intot he series.

NFS_Rogue
05-18-2004, 11:55 PM
So is the entire game based upon grabbing and pulling at everything to make things happen. I gather that pulling the tongue of the blow up alligator thing is only one example. It must be then that I keep overlooking the obvious hey..

It seems that youse know the series pretty well. Have you played it repeatedly or don't often get back to the earlier versions????

Joshi
05-19-2004, 03:10 PM
Most of us pretty much know all Monkey island games inside out, so if there are any troubles, just ask.

And it's not always pulling or pushing things. Basically it's mostly logic, just think things through and it should come to you.

NFS_Rogue
05-21-2004, 12:41 AM
Sorry, didn't mean to offend. The game is just heaps different to the racing simulation games I usually play. The closest I have ever come to playing a game remotely similar to this was Quake 1 & 2.

Skinkie
05-21-2004, 10:54 PM
Way you say remotely, you must mean it in the most wide ranging version of the definition. But hey if you like this, we'd be happy to recommend some more of the same genre to you. It's quite an exciting world.

NFS_Rogue
05-22-2004, 09:14 AM
I meant remotely as in that the concept of this game is like nothing I've ver taken a look at before. If it wasn't for the young kids liking the introduction and pics on the cover I probably would not have gotten it. But seeming they have enjoyed doing it so far why stop a good thing hey??? It is quite interesting although very different. I remember years back seeing a trailer for a game called broken sword (or that is what I think it was called) which kinda looked similar to this game.

Joshi
05-22-2004, 11:38 AM
Broken Sword? Puh!

Yeah, I guess it's similar... a bit. One big differenece being...


...it's about ten thousand times better.

Okay, so not tenn thousand, but it is most probably one of the best of this type of genre about, if you like The Curse of Monkey island, buy this, along with it's two sequels (although don't buy it for the kids, the first scene starts with a guy dieing in an explosion, and then it just get's better).

And yeah, quake isn't much like these types of games, but whatever. Enjoy the game!

NFS_Rogue
05-24-2004, 11:26 PM
I know that Quake comes nowhere near this but I have never done animation based gaming before. I find that curse is more of an adventure than an actual game...nonetheless a popular game in its own right.

What would you suggest as another game along the same line for my kids as having someone just blow up in the beginning of a game don't send the right message...

Joshi
05-25-2004, 02:28 PM
Wow. It's quite amazing, but I can't think of a good adventure game that is suitable for kids. The closest you'll come to is 'Sam and Max Hit the Road' but that incorporates quite a lot of violence in it (but it's performed by a hyperkinetic rabbity thing so I don't know if it counts)

I guess the first two monkey island's if you can find them anywhere.

Udvarnoky
05-25-2004, 05:10 PM
There are a lot of great older LucasArts adventure games that kids should enjoy, though they're a bit less forgiving. Here's a list that you may want to look into:

Maniac Mansion
Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Loom
Monkey Island series
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
Day of the Tentacle
Sam & Max Hit the Road (demented humor)
Full Throttle (kinda violent)
The Dig


I'm surprised you mention Sam & Max, Joshi, because it's probably one of the more "adult" games in LucasArts' adventure library.

Skinkie
05-25-2004, 10:57 PM
I'd go for Day of the Tentacle. It's probably the most child friendly of the whole bunch. But it also has some of the most out there puzzle solutions.

NFS_Rogue
05-26-2004, 08:03 AM
Thanks Guys for the suggestions as it is always good to have knowledge of games of a similar genre. My kids seem to be enjoying monkey island 3 so far and maybe we'll try and get the earlier ones as suggested....if they can be easily found.

So whats day of the tenticle about anyways...for curiosity sake.

Skinkie
05-26-2004, 10:55 PM
The only thing about the early Monkey Island games is there is no voice, so if your kids are yougn they may have problems keeping up with the dialouge.

Day of the Tentacle (http://www.adventuregamers.com/display.php?id=186&p=21)

NFS_Rogue
05-27-2004, 02:20 AM
ok...hmmm.. that's strange I thought that the earlier two would have dialogue as well rather than caption. Nevertheless, you still reckon they are worth looking for or should I try and get them the ones that foolowed curse??????/

Joshi
05-27-2004, 03:05 PM
There is as yet only one that followed curse, and it wasn't that good, but for kids, it may be just what they were looking for.

I suppose Sam and Max was a bit too adult for them, but the rest of them are so old that they're just too hard to get now. Pity.

Dr Edison 007
05-27-2004, 05:42 PM
I'd suggest you go to http://www.lucasarts.com/companystore/

There is a thing called "The Adventure Pack" containing Day of the Tentacle , Sam & Max Hit the Road, and a game called Indiana Jones & the Fate of Atlantis for sale for 30 USD.

That's probably the best you can get nowadays.

P.S. I have Sam & Max quoted in my signature, so maybe that can help you decide whether or not you want it for your children.

NFS_Rogue
06-02-2004, 06:31 AM
Guys, gotta say that it is a shame that such games aren't really available now. With my kids being 4 and 2 I really wanna avoid one's like that max and sam. Maybe I should do a generalised game search on the net but ain't too sure what to use as a search...any suggestions??

NFS_Rogue
06-02-2004, 06:40 AM
Guys, gotta admit I find it a shame that there ain't more games out there like this one (Curse) and thanks for letting us know about max and sam but seeming my little ones are 4 and 2 I rather look for an alternative..

Skinkie
06-03-2004, 01:23 AM
Get Escape from Monkey Island, it's the sequal, it's not as good, but for kids at the age of 2 and 4 they won't notice the HUGE GAPING PLOTHOLES that drive the rest of us insane.

NFS_Rogue
06-05-2004, 02:09 AM
Thanks for the suggestion...will keep a look out for it. By the way, what are the major potholes that you have found with the game???

Joshi
06-05-2004, 01:23 PM
Nothing you'll notice as much, you'll need to have played the first two games to find how the fourth game doesn't quite fit, but I've got a feeling your kids will love it (it's not as good as curse, but they'll like it anyway)

NFS_Rogue
06-06-2004, 11:16 PM
Hopefully I'll still be able to find it somewhere local as ain't really trusting of sites like e-bay where the potential of being ripped off is big. Maybe search for it with Kazza lite?????/

Dr Edison 007
06-07-2004, 07:09 AM
Hey, hey, hey, don't even talk about game piracy around here, it'll get you banned pretty quickly.

Skinkie
06-08-2004, 12:44 AM
You can buy it off the officical LucasArts website (http://www.lucasarts.com)

It's safe to order from there. They're trustworthy. Unless you give them an adventure game license.

NFS_Rogue
06-08-2004, 09:35 AM
Sorry about the mention of warez as gathered e-bay would probably be the only way of getting it......anyways, whats an adventures licensce????????

Skinkie
06-09-2004, 01:47 AM
It's just the license to make sequals to their other games. It was just a refernece of my continued anger over the cancellation of Sam and Max 2.

Dr Edison 007
06-09-2004, 06:32 AM
Originally posted by NFS_Rogue
Sorry about the delay in replying to your post. I downloaded the scummvm thing but when trying to get it to work windonws xp home ed. wouldn't let me open it and get the daily build thing. It just gave me the small windows error screen saying do you want to send a report to microsoft.. Any ideas on how to bypass this.....thanks.

I know this is an old post, but do you have Windows ZIP.

That might have been the problem.

Joshi
06-09-2004, 04:31 PM
Amazon.com is a good bet, but Monkey island 4 is still selling so I would guess it would be in a local computergame store somewhere.

And yeah, not only is downloading the game extremely illegal and frowned upon by us, but it's also very illogical considering the size of it, you'd be waiting for it's download for a good 3 or 4 hours on the best connection.

Just buy it, it won't cost much now since it came out in 2000.

Skinkie
06-10-2004, 01:23 AM
Wow, it doesn;t feel like it's been 4 years.

NFS_Rogue
06-11-2004, 09:32 AM
@Joshi, over here people just leave the internet connected overnite and pause it in the morning or leave it going for a couple of days straight. Nonetheless, I will look for it at a local game shop as suggested because as said earlier am skeptical of thins like ebay.

@Dr Edison 007, at the time I wasn't using WinZip on my pc but rather was using the latest version of WinRaR as many of the files I downloaded for NFS Underground were in this format. I thought that it would basically operate the same. When I couldn't get the scummvm thing to work I looked around and came across the abandon_loader 0.8 which I still use with a number of old games and they all seem to work fine when I couldn't get them to go before..

@Skinkie, what reason have they given for cancelling the Sam and Max 2 game. Too violent???

Joshi
06-11-2004, 03:08 PM
Sam n Max 2 was cancelled because there apparently isn't a market for that kind of game anymore.

It was kinda violent, but I doubt it was intended for little children and it wouldn't have been cancelled because of that.

NFS_Rogue
06-12-2004, 08:55 AM
I guess its kinda funny how everything seems to end up that way nowadays where the game once was fun but loses all credibility it held because it is looked upon as a 'kids' game. With the sort of violence that you talk of it obviously wasn't intended for kids?? Anyways, when I have done a generalised search for games on yahoo its funny to see the list of one's on sites that I use to play when younger and how much they differ from the modern genre of games today.

Joshi
06-12-2004, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by NFS_Rogue
I guess its kinda funny how everything seems to end up that way nowadays where the game once was fun but loses all credibility it held because it is looked upon as a 'kids' game. With the sort of violence that you talk of it obviously wasn't intended for kids?? Anyways, when I have done a generalised search for games on yahoo its funny to see the list of one's on sites that I use to play when younger and how much they differ from the modern genre of games today.

It was actually nothnig to do with the violence or it being for kids. It was mainly about that fact that LucasArts (developers of Sam n Max, and evidentally the developers of The Curse of Monkey Island) didn't think games like sam n Max (and when i say games like sam n max, I mean adventure games, like Monkey island) would make money anymore. they're more interested in high violence content and anything to do with Star wars.

Unfortunate, but true. Sam n Max 2 would have been a great game as well.

NFS_Rogue
06-13-2004, 08:12 AM
I guess then that they are more interested in making the games that don't require a lot of strategy and thinking. The degree of interaction in Curse is what made it more interesting but at the same time different. As for Star Wars, the games literally sux. So much for anything that ain't blood thirsty..

Skinkie
06-13-2004, 03:14 PM
I feel the need to unlease my geekdom.

Not all the Star Wars games suck. In fact quite a few are rather good. Knights of the Old Republic and Jedi Academy are two recent examples of excellent games in the Star Wars universe. The problem is that the market is flooded with them. No longer do they always feel compelled to crank out the best games possible (like previously X-Wing series, Rogue Squadron) instead they just rely on the franchise to sell the games for them. Especially when Episode I came out and a whole series of bad games based around the movie were hastily cranked out.


End geek stuff.

Murray the Chao
06-13-2004, 09:44 PM
Those games do TOO suck! The only one which doesn't is Galactic Battlegrounds which happens to be my favorite Star Wars game followed by the Super Star Wars trilogy.

Joshi
06-14-2004, 04:46 PM
I can feel this turning into one big argument, so I won't contribute 9yeah, I know, me!)

Of course I will say, there are possibly a few SW games that are good, just not as good as good classic LA adventure games.

Murray the Chao
06-15-2004, 12:30 AM
I would like this topic to be resolved so we can work on my Monkey1 problem.

NFS_Rogue
06-15-2004, 08:10 AM
My intention wasn't to cause a bitch fight as I was only expressing my opinion. Didn't expect people to jump on it....anyways best way to resolvew it is to ask Murray the Chao whats the monkey island 1 problem he's having..

Joshi
06-15-2004, 11:42 AM
Is that the problem about running it on the mac? Because I personally can't answer that question.

NFS_Rogue
06-20-2004, 07:08 AM
I guess then that they aren't waiting around for an answer. Could you possibly direct them where they can go or aren't there many forums left on monkey island???

NFS_Rogue
06-29-2004, 09:39 AM
Is there a Mac forum out there that you know of?????

NFS_Rogue
07-06-2004, 07:21 AM
Need a bit of help here as accidently deleted the walkthrough that I was using for the game and am unable to find the site where I originally got it from. Can someone put me in the right direction...Thanx in advance.

Joshi
07-06-2004, 09:47 AM
There are thousands of walthroughs for this game on the web, I'll point you to a few of them.

Just click here (http://www.scummbar.com/games/monkey3/cmiwalkthrough.html)
or here (http://www.milegend.com/walkthroughs/walkthroughs.php?id=4)
or even here (http://www.worldofmi.com/gamehelp/walk/monkey3m.php)

If you search around,i'm sure you'll find more, just type "Monkey Island 3 walkthrough" into any search engine (like Google (http://www.google.co.uk)) and it whould find some good ones, but one of the ones above should help.

NFS_Rogue
07-14-2004, 10:26 AM
Thanks for the prompt response... its just that a number of them out there have information missing and you can't figure things out..

Joshi
07-14-2004, 02:49 PM
remember, we're always here if yuou want any hints and stuff.

NFS_Rogue
07-15-2004, 05:45 AM
Guys, its appreciated.

Doomtempler
08-26-2004, 01:30 PM
Hello guys

I got a problem with CMI.
I installed it and when i tryed to run the game, it wants to intall "direktX 5.0". I got DirektX9.01 on my computer. I tryed some more times, and it didn't work. Then i just klickt on the "install DirektX" button, but this didn't help. Then i have try ScummVM Q+E. with this programm i could run MI 1 and 2 and also India Joens 3 and 4, but when i try to run CMI with ScummVM Q+E, it says a data called "comi.la0" is missing. i downloaded the game from e-mule. the downloaded gae didn't run,too. it says it wants to install DirektX 5.0. Then i saw the data, witch scumvm q+e was missing on my original version. i tryed to run the downloaded version with ScummVM Q+E and the screen becomes black for 2 seconds, "yea it works" i thougt, becaus the screen gets black for 2 seconds when i run MI 1 and 2.too. But then i was back in windows. i tryd again and the screen becomes black for 2 seconds angain and the it returns to windows. Then i copyed the missing data into the folder where i installed my original version, and tryed to run it with scummVM Q+E again. it sayed a data called "comi.la1". this data was in the folder with the downloaded version,too. So i copyed the data into my original version and tryed again. But then the screen becomes black and retuned to windows after 2 seconds,too. I hope you can help me with my problem. I'm runing Windows XP Profesional version on a AMD Atlon 2400+ geforce 4 4200, 520mb ddr ram.

MFG
Doomtempler

Joshi
08-28-2004, 08:54 AM
Sorry, we unfortunatle don't offer help to people who copy games.

Alien426
08-28-2004, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by Doomtempler
MFG
Doomtempler ****ing Kraut!

monkeylord
09-11-2004, 12:41 AM
i recently repurchased curse of monkey island cause my original screwed up like 4 years ago and i had been meaning to buy a new copy. Anyway i had the same problem wif the sound the nfs rogue had and downloaded abandon loader it fixed up the speech problem but the cutscenes now go insanely fast and they keep skipping im running it on a p4 2.8 and wanna know wat settings nfs rogue put it on to get it running if hes still on this board i could sure use ure help :(

Joshi
09-11-2004, 08:33 AM
have you tried running it through ScummVM (http://www.scummvm.org) instead? I think you'll find it's easier to use and is just as effective.

monkeylord
09-12-2004, 05:11 AM
yer i tried scummvm it was running all smoothly till i got to the second disk it kept on telling me to insert the first disk when i was a playing the second part of the game even now it keeps asking me to change disks 1 then change back to 2 then one its really annoying i just wanna know how you got it workin using abandon loader because besides the cutscenes the game runs fine.
if u can remember wat settings did u put curse of monkey island on abandon loader to get it running?

Doomtempler
09-12-2004, 05:45 AM
download the "CMI launcher" here (http://quick.mixnmojo.com/downloads.shtml).
just scroll down a bit and click on download latest.
it musst be installed in the same place, where you cmi exe is.

monkeylord
09-12-2004, 06:38 AM
man doomtemplar ure a champion it works like a charm now thanks man

monkeylord
09-12-2004, 06:43 AM
yer im just wondering i also have the monkey island 1 & 2 package with both monkey island 1 and 2 together wif the grim fandango demo im just wondering monkey island 1 has full cd music however monkey island 2 uses wat sounds like midi for the music did lucasarts ever redo monkey island 2 like they did with number one?

Joshi
09-12-2004, 12:48 PM
No. In actual fact, MI1 was redone but not to MI2 standards. When MI2 was being created, the programmers created a little music engine called IMuse, which basically allows for continuous music throughout the game, with the music changing from scene to scene and so on (MI1 now calls on CD tracks, but when the tracks finish, they just finish, as apose to MI2 where the tracks simply don't finish). This is actually better and was used for years after (it was used In MI3). But they didn't improve the quality as such as you can find with maybe MI1, but then again, who needs it, the music in MI2 rocks anyway.