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Brushguy
05-12-2004, 06:47 PM
I just saw the new Idle Thumbs website, advertised on Mojo's main page. I went there thinking that it would be fun to browse around and hang out at, like Mojo, but in truth, it looks like IGN with a makeover to me, with lots more cussing.

The worst part is that the news on Mojo's main page says that there won't be many updates for this site in the future. I would hate to see the Mojo community dissolve and break up, but that's what it looks like right now. :(

Thrik
05-12-2004, 07:12 PM
Doesn't seem like a problem to me. Mojo is hardly updated as it is due to the total lack of interesting LucasArts news ever - so I doubt there'll be any trouble keeping up with the occasional happening like they are now.

You can't expect them all to focus all of their efforts on just one site forever. They've been doing this for years now - anybody in their right mind would have gone crazy by now.

The people that are loyal to this community (and that's about all the people you get around here) almost certainly won't be going anywhere, and then there's all of the hosted communities like the Monkey Island Discussion forums and the Grim Fandango Network locale.

In fact, you should go give the latter of those attention. Now.

Jake
05-12-2004, 08:39 PM
Idle thumbs id very different from IGN ¬_¬

That said, what annoyed you about it/ I'm going to be working to improve the main page some in the next couple of days, but it seems a lot more like Mojo or adventuregamers to me than it does like IGN... Okay and you're right about the cussing.



Anyway, sadly, as much as I'd like to say that Mojo has been neglected as of late due to Idle Thumbs or something, sadly that's not the case. As Thrik said, there just hasn't been much news to report so we haven't been reporting it. It looks like that's how it'll be for the forseeable future.

I'll still be posting news here every now and then, and running samandmax.net. Mojo's main page hasn't been the central attraction for most of the regulars for a long time anyway. Everyone centers around the forums, or the IRC channels, or the hosted sites like The Scumm Bar. When big, or interesting stories break either from LucasArts or the fan community, Mojo will still be around to write about them.

SerialFreak
05-12-2004, 08:53 PM
The site is pretty cool, but it's a little crowded on the main site. It doesn't really come across as IGN or GameSpot though.

elTee
05-12-2004, 10:38 PM
I'd only seen the placeholder image before today.. and I wasn't expecting anything as good as this. Wow! It looks great, I've added it to my favourites.

Jake
05-12-2004, 10:38 PM
The crowded main page is my main concern at the moment.

manny_c444
05-12-2004, 10:55 PM
This "idle thumbs" website is making me realize terrible things about you Jake. Like that your British, and you like Halo. I mean Jesus, did it have to be both?!

No I'm just kidding it looks quite good, but one thing you should remember, despite being fun, cursing really does make a site seem unproffesional and almost unpassionate about what it does. I mean, are you going to walk up to your mom and unload an expletive-laiden greeting when you see her? We, the fans, Jake, are like your mother. Treat us with some respect damn it!
:p

Anyway, make one of your retrospectives about Marathon since its basically just Halo, released 10 years ago, but still better by a mile.

elTee
05-12-2004, 10:56 PM
It doesn't seem any busier than, say, Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com) - but it did suprise me how far down the screen the news section was.

Skinkie
05-12-2004, 11:29 PM
I didn't notice the news till like my third trip to the main page, that should be fixed... now.

CaliMonk
05-13-2004, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by LucasTones
I'd only seen the placeholder image before today.. and I wasn't expecting anything as good as this. Wow! It looks great, I've added it to my favourites.

I agree, although the main page is really _too much_, it has way too much info on one page, too much diffrent sections and links making it seem to "busy".

The overal content is nice, i like the cussing btw, anyway with some adjustments and some usability it will be great.

Jake
05-13-2004, 02:50 PM
Here's the proposed slight re-ordering of the main page, both to reduce the clutter and to bring the daily news up onto the first screen so you haven't got to scroll down.

http://www.idlethumbs.net/tests/thumbsrevised.jpg

Also, manny_c444: I'm not British, I'm American. I don't know if that raises or lowers your opinion of me however. And Halo is alright :)

Joshi
05-13-2004, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by Thrik
anybody in their right mind would have gone crazy by now.

Isn't that a sort of catch 22? I mean, for them to not be in their right mind, they would have to be crazy, and therefore would, what, get more crazy because they weren't in their right minds?

*Cough*

I think too much

But yeah, great site, needs some work, but you guys know that and I;m sure you're working on it. But I like it.

Spaff
05-13-2004, 04:01 PM
Mojo wont die any more than it already has.
Calm down about the swearing, we will create a swear filter for americans to use maybe later. ¬

We would love you to read our new site, and also continue to hang around mojo. Sadly I'm bored of it and must move on, also i can no longer pretend to be a lucasarts fan :(

please dont be frightened and also please dont be offended. Just as mojo loves you, Idle Thumbs adores you.

Erwin_Br
05-13-2004, 04:24 PM
You guys should at least bring back your original content from before the crash(es). If it still exists. Please tell me it still exists! IT STILL EXISTS DOESN'T IT!?

Man, I loved those features, reviews and stuff.

--Erwin

Brushguy
05-13-2004, 06:28 PM
Now that I look at it again, it looks a lot better than my first impression. I was just put out by all the swearing on the main page. Idle Thumbs looks more promising than it did the first time I looked. Please tone down your mouths though.

I understand that Mojo is slowly dying, since Lucasarts is kind of boring now, and there's not much to talk about, unless it's Star Wars... Why don't you put Mojo's hosted sites and other stuff on Idle Thumbs? That way you could scrap Mojo but nobody would care because everything would be at Idle Thumbs.

Anyway, sorry about what I said yesterday. I was having a bad day, and I'm glad Idle Thumbs isn't going to become another IGN. I was just afraid that it was. :)

Jake
05-13-2004, 09:25 PM
I doubt the main headline is usually going to be "Mother ****ing Goose." :)

Alien426
05-14-2004, 02:25 AM
Swearing is OK by me. I don't want it for its own sake, though. You should not limit yourselves by adhering to that hypocritical American bull****. **** (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/fwordflash.html) is part of the language.

> also i can no longer pretend to be a lucasarts fan

Then you should be a little more drastic and do some of the things suggested after the Sam & Max debacle. Voice out that you're a fan no longer.

BooJaka
05-14-2004, 11:54 AM
Swearing doesn't neccersarily mean it's unprofessional, just more personal. I like it.

Bobo Donkey™
05-14-2004, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by BooJaka
Swearing doesn't neccersarily mean it's unprofessional, just more personal. I like it.

Unfortunately it prevents me from visiting such a wonderful website cause of the stupid filters that the school and the library have.

It's been a horrible day and I dont need this to make it any more horrible. Tone down the language so that I can visit it. Please.

DMCBatman
05-14-2004, 02:41 PM
I really like the idea behind the site, looks cool to me.

Though the f-bomb on the front page and the assorted cursing everywhere else is kinda dumb. I mean, cursing's pretty meaningless - you don't say anything by it, and it just brings the content to a lower, more base, level.

Other than that, it's cool.

Brushguy
05-14-2004, 04:06 PM
We need a petition for Idle Thumbs to control their mouths, so everyone, including kids, can visit.

Spaff
05-14-2004, 06:02 PM
Dude, We arent going to do that, pretend like people don't swear.. repress ourselves and become something we dont want to be.

We may however build in a swear filter like VB has when we get the time so that when i say '****ing' it just has those polite lille ** and you dont weep about it... of course it would be defaulted to off.

I am truly sorry to anyone that we may have offended by swearing but seriously guys... go and read something else if its that bad, cus it isnt going away.
ohhhhh i didnt mean it like that, i cant be mean to you guys, you rule, Of course we would rather you read our site, just as we intended it to be read.... pretend like its bleeped out or soemthing.


Also apetition isnt going to stop us... like a web petition ever worked.. heh. maybe we could be the first web petition success!!!! ¬

also - beocme an activist againse LEC? nah, too much effort, ill just slag them off whenever i can. :)

Live Undead
05-15-2004, 05:55 AM
Originally posted by Brushguy
We need a petition for Idle Thumbs to control their mouths, so everyone, including kids, can visit.

Seriously. Shut the F*ck up. Its their (alread excellent ;) ) site and they can do what they want... I don't think it looks unprofessional and if anything distinguishes it from sites like IGN. People like you really do get on my tits...

as for the guy who can't access it at school, wait till you get to college... like me!!!

ThunderPeel2001
05-15-2004, 02:41 PM
The news is a bit low in that JPG, Jake. The features are perhaps taking up too much room (although they are cool).

GregD
05-17-2004, 12:54 PM
I think idlethumbs is a good idea, recently there just hasnt been anything really interesting or worth reading about LEC wise... other than the recent S&M2 cancelation..

At least now there will be more articles and not just on LEC... Good work chaps.

elTee
05-17-2004, 04:24 PM
The article on framerates, 50 hurts (http://www.idlethumbs.net/display.php?id=21), was an interesting read. I'm glad most GC games have the 60hz option, even though at the moment I can't use it as I'm running the purple box off my 1993 monitor.

Bobo Donkey™
05-18-2004, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by LucasTones
The article on framerates, 50 hurts (http://www.idlethumbs.net/display.php?id=21), was an interesting read. I'm glad most GC games have the 60hz option, even though at the moment I can't use it as I'm running the purple box off my 1993 monitor.

I know what you mean. I can't even play Zelda Collectors edition without taking the 'Cube to the living room or the kitchen (But my Mum said I'd get a new TV for christmas so I can play Zelda }:¬)

By the way, I have thought up a solution that will allow me to access Idle Thumbs without having to censor the Mother ****ing Goose. Delete the "Mother ****ing Goose" headline and transfer it onto the jpeg and maybe, just maybe, the filters wont ban the main page.

Thrik
05-18-2004, 01:59 PM
It'd be a good idea if at some point whilst bored they produced a php parser for the news/etc text which will censor any swearing if, say, ?noswear=1 is added to the URL. Then you can disable it without even having the visit the site. Wahay!

GregD
05-18-2004, 02:03 PM
Yeah it is unlike game sites to swear blantently. Not that im against that sort of thing since it doesn't offend me.. but im sure some people out there would be.

A PHP parser is the best method yes, you'd need the user to turn it on from a start page then give them a cookie perhaps to retain the value.

Bobo Donkey™
05-18-2004, 03:19 PM
That should work as well.

Thrik
05-18-2004, 04:15 PM
Yeah, the cookie method would be nice. There'd need to be an optional variable for the URL too though that people in the know can add to make it filter-friendly. ^_^_^_^_^

Alien426
05-19-2004, 02:11 AM
If people insist on a swear filter (which is stoopid, if you ax me) I'd want to have the option to turn it off for the forum as well.

ThunderPeel2001
05-19-2004, 02:52 PM
Yeah! What's up with that anyway?? "Motherf@cking Goose" on the main page but cens-o-rama on the forums! If anyone got to the forums you can bet they don't care about naughty words!

tabacco
05-19-2004, 05:13 PM
Deal with it. That's all I can say.

Jake
05-19-2004, 07:59 PM
I guess since it might have been missed, its worth pointing out that Mother ****ing Goose is in fact a pun, or at least has a double meaning sort of in it. A play on words, if you will. Its not just the f-word slapped in there for kicks. Its a humorous phrase, meant to amuse those with active minds (and idle thumbs).

Skinkie
05-19-2004, 11:14 PM
Sadly.... I don't get it.

JimmyTheFish
05-20-2004, 12:50 AM
Attention people who do not like the "needless cursing" and those who think it should be stopped so children can read the page: GAMING IS NOT ONLY FOR CHILDREN. Its about ****ing time a site decided to treat gamers as adults.


And Skinkie, Mother****ing Goose is a play on Mother Goose. I did not find this particularly clever or insightful, but whatever.

SpiffyTheDog
05-20-2004, 02:09 AM
Jimmy... the fish!?

Of any relation to...

...oh, you know, HIM? The legendary one?

Kingzjester
05-20-2004, 04:07 AM
I find this whole 'cursing is evil' thing surreal. There is no filter on the Idle T forums either and there shouldn't be one. Seriously, though, do these asterisks really make you feel any less dirty? We all know what four-letter word goes in that place, could someone please explain to me how the **** are our souls any purer through the damn asterisks?!

Cursing doesn't lower the standard of writing any more than a nice folder raises the relevance of a doctoral dissertation. I curse for emphasis in all my academic papers and my professors have yet to complain. On the other hand, all the people I have met so far who chastised me for my cursing had roughly one-third of my working vocabulary (not accounting for the lexicon of unique curses, of course).

So in conclusion, **** you and welcome.

Joshi
05-20-2004, 05:49 AM
I think it may be the whole point about other people seeing the swear words and getting offended, not people using them and then feeling better because of the asterisks. Some people do get offended with people using swaerwords in every single sentance, some people don't. Idle Thumbs has every right to use swear words if it wants, but it should at least be considerate for the other people and put in an optional filter for it (which i think they're doing)

BooJaka
05-20-2004, 09:31 AM
"It's bureaucracy gone mad" -- Alan Parttidge

ThunderPeel2001
05-20-2004, 08:49 PM
Lol! What IS the deal with the censorship?

Kingzjester
05-20-2004, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by Joshi
Idle Thumbs has every right to use swear words if it wants, but it should at least be considerate for the other people and put in an optional filter for it (which i think they're doing) Riiight. Sure. Yeah... I think we only have one considerate person on the team. Sure ain't me.

Spaff
05-22-2004, 10:15 AM
/me looks around.... who is it then?

pebsmith
05-23-2004, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by Kingzjester I curse for emphasis in all my academic papers and my professors have yet to complain.

What academic program are you in?

Bobo Donkey™
05-25-2004, 08:13 AM
If you cant access Idle Thumbs because of stupid filters then click here (http://web.archive.org/web/20040524040310/http://www.idlethumbs.net/) and maybe your problems will be solved. It worked for me.