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Admiral Vostok
05-18-2004, 06:25 PM
Well this has been attempted many times before, but in an effort to keep both this forum and SWGB alive I'm proposing it again.

We should have a forum game of SWGB every couple of weeks or so. I'm not sure what the best time to hold it would be, but that can be determined by this thread. So who's in for it? It won't be a ladder or anything, since that can get too competitive. Just a friendly game between forumites.

So who's with me? Reply with the timezone you're in and the prefered time to play, and we'll see if we can sort something out.

I'm in North American Eastern Standard Time, GMT-4. Pretty much anytime is workable for me.

lukeiamyourdad
05-18-2004, 07:28 PM
Since we're in the same time zone for now maybe we could have a game:D
Ah but we should play with other people too...we've played with each other too often already.
Ok so two isn't a lot but still...

One of them was a huge stalemate(it was ok?! Damn those holocrons!) and the other was quite unfair for you. I won but I think that you could have done a lot better(though I think you're better with air strong civs.

Now, Windu won't play because he dislikes SWGB but Froz is still here.

Free-for-all?

Admiral Vostok
05-18-2004, 07:56 PM
Yes, such a shame Windu dislikes SWGB. I hope Froz joins us, though he refrained from participating in the ladder this would be more fun. If he still thinks he's unbeatable we could ally against him.

Hopefully DMUK will join in too. I know Saberhagen still plays, he might be interested. He's in the UK too, I believe.

lukeiamyourdad
05-18-2004, 09:53 PM
Yay we could have a battle between the english and the canadians(and temporary canadians).

DarthMaulUK
05-19-2004, 05:31 AM
Ive just moved to a new area, so once my broadband is up in a couple of weeks, i will certainly join in the fun

Wipe them out.....all of them ;-)

DMUK

FroZticles
05-19-2004, 06:11 AM
I haven't played since last year and I'm far from unbeatable.

Darth Windu
05-19-2004, 06:41 AM
It's not that i dont like SWGB, i just have better games (Generals, RoN, Star Trek Elite Force 2, Jedi Academy) to play - that is when i can squeeze the time between my uni assignments.

Admiral Vostok
05-19-2004, 11:50 AM
Oh good, we can count you in, Froz? Where are you located?

DMUK - How long have you been waiting for that broadband? I seem to remember you had just moved and were waiting for your broadband back when we were doing the ladder...

pbguy1211
05-19-2004, 12:55 PM
someone give me a date and a time and i'll try more than hard to see if i can make it! :p

DarthMaulUK
05-19-2004, 01:52 PM
I live in England..... enough said.

DMUK

saberhagen
05-19-2004, 04:14 PM
Just when I thought this forum was dead...

Yes I still play SWGB although I've found some new things to waste my time on (Cossacks, Livejournal and photoshopping stupid pictures). My last trip to the zone ended with lots of swearing and my ally walling my CC so it would be nice to play with friendly people again. I miss WTE. :(

One more thing - my exchange has just been ADSL enabled so I might well be descending into waiting for broadband hell soon. This is the British way of life...

General Nitro
05-19-2004, 05:16 PM
im game

Admiral Vostok
05-19-2004, 05:31 PM
Aha! My plan to revive the forum has succeeded!

Now let me see about our timezones:

Admiral Vostok: GMT -4
lukeiamyourdad: GMT -4
DarthMaulUK: GMT (in a few weeks)
Frozticles: ??
pbguy1211: ??
saberhagen: GMT
General Nitro: GMT -5

If Windu is out that means we don't have to cater for Australians (of which there was once an abundance). So perhaps the best time would be of an evening GMT? That would make it afternoon in GMT-4. I guess either Saturday or Sunday, which is preferable?

General Nitro
05-19-2004, 06:12 PM
i beleive i am GMT -5

Admiral Vostok
05-19-2004, 06:27 PM
Oh good. Where exactly in GMT-5 are you? I'll edit that information into my above post.

Another thing we need to decide on is how the game will be played. Personally I think we should agree on a time, and Direct IP connect to someone hosting. I suggest myself to host since I'm organising the whole thing and since I have broadband. I'd post my IP address on the forum here so everyone could connect.

However I seem to remember at least one person didn't like Direct IP-ing when we played the ladder, so we may have to resort to the Zone *shudder*.

lukeiamyourdad
05-19-2004, 09:19 PM
errr... you should do it through PMing.

pbguy is in the same timezone as us so GMT -4.

swphreak
05-19-2004, 10:12 PM
Hmmm... I suck majorly, but I could be cannon fodder for someone. I'm on summer vacation w/ a College class here or there, and any time is good for me (Except Mondays and Wednesdays). I'm in USA EST.



(I've not been here a while due to the trojan ads, but it seems they've stopped... the trojans anyways.)



P.S. I've upgraded from AOheLL DSL to Comcast High Speed Cable Internet which is like 8 times faster than my previous DSL, and my friends say the ping is much better now. If you ever need a host, I can do it.

Admiral Vostok
05-19-2004, 11:15 PM
Ah, glad you could join us Phreak. You have been missed.

Luke's Dad, I thought about PMing, but thought if I went that way I might miss someone out. But you're right, it would be better to PM than just publicly post my IP.

So everyone will have to express their interest, or they won't get the PM detailing the IP address.

To recap people and timezones:

Admiral Vostok: GMT -4
lukeiamyourdad: GMT -4
DarthMaulUK: GMT
Frozticles: ??
pbguy1211: GMT -4
saberhagen: GMT
General Nitro: GMT -5
StarWarsPhreak: GMT -4

That's eight already! Now we just need to decide on a time. I'm available all the time, what with my extremely flexible job, so someone with less flexibility propose a time.

saberhagen
05-20-2004, 06:18 AM
We're in BST now so it's GMT+1. Presumably you're also in summer time cos EST is usually GMT-5, so they should cancel each other out. I should be free any time, but it's best to start before 7.00pm EST.

Admiral Vostok
05-20-2004, 09:29 AM
Yes, we are in summer time.

Okay, what about 4pm EST on Sunday? That would make it 9pm in the UK.

lukeiamyourdad
05-20-2004, 09:34 AM
Well I'm free everyday except for Wednesday and Friday.

General Nitro
05-20-2004, 07:57 PM
i live in the Georgia about 30 minutes from the tennesse state line. where do u GMT -4 guys live?

lukeiamyourdad
05-20-2004, 08:39 PM
I'm in Montréal, Vostok is in Toronto, pbguy is in New Jersey, saberhagen and DMUK are in England and as for frozticles, we still don't know.

Admiral Vostok
05-20-2004, 10:11 PM
And Phreak is in Florida.

Everyone okay with my suggested time?

lukeiamyourdad
05-20-2004, 10:42 PM
I think I'm fine. Unless my friend wants to go see Shrek2 or Troy or something.

saberhagen
05-21-2004, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Admiral Vostok
Yes, we are in summer time.

Okay, what about 4pm EST on Sunday? That would make it 9pm in the UK.

Sounds good to me.

swphreak
05-21-2004, 11:26 AM
The time is good for me. I should have my computer back up and running by then (I'm reformatting it).

Admiral Vostok
05-21-2004, 04:58 PM
Right, that's when we'll play then.

I better practice playing again...

swphreak
05-22-2004, 11:35 AM
Hmm... it seems I can't download the patches for the games (at the LA site it doesn't work, and I even went to LucasFiles). If anyone has the patches (for GB and CC) and is willing to host them so I can download them, that'd be great....

Admiral Vostok
05-22-2004, 11:55 AM
Hmm, actually I think I need the CC patch as well...

[EDIT:]Phreak, just google for "CloneUpdate1_1.exe" and find a download site that is free.

Anyway the following people will recieve a PM from me detailing the IP address to Direct Connect with:
- lukeiamyourdad
- pbguy1211
- saberhagen
- General Nitro
- StarWarsPhreak

lukeiamyourdad
05-22-2004, 08:08 PM
That makes six of us. We could decide on the teams right now.

I suggest this:

Team 1:

saberhagen
pbguy
Phreak

Team 2:

Vostok
lukeiamyourdad
General Nitro

I don't know if that's fair enough. I know pbguy is pretty good and saberhagen is the best here. They'll be balanced out by Phreak(no offense man).

Vostok and I are quite evenly matched and as for Nitro I have no idea.

swphreak
05-22-2004, 10:59 PM
Ok, I found the CC Patch off FileFront.

You might as well consider me dead weight because I suck and haven't played it in AGES. I'll probably need a practice round or something... been playing a lot of Generals/Zero Hour and Homeworld 2

General Nitro
05-22-2004, 11:11 PM
i am by far the worst player here.

lukeiamyourdad
05-22-2004, 11:31 PM
Ok so new teams to balance things out:

Team 1:

saberhagen
Vostok
Phreak

Team 2:

pbguy
lukeiamyourdad
General Nitro


Basically, it would go as this:

saberhagen: best team 1 player
pbguy: best team 2 player
Vostok: Team 1 average player
lukeiamyourdad: team 2 average player
Phreak: Team 1 cannon fodder
General nitro: Team 2 cannon fodder

General Nitro
05-23-2004, 10:28 AM
cannon fodder...lol

Admiral Vostok
05-23-2004, 05:28 PM
I was thinking exactly the same as your second team suggestion.

saberhagen
05-24-2004, 11:19 AM
It looks like Connemara will be coming as well, cos I invited her via live journal, but I'll msn her the ip when the time comes.

swphreak
05-24-2004, 01:11 PM
Well. Just incase the forums go borked again, you can reach me on GameSurge in #echonet (http://www.echonetwork.net/index.php?page=irc). mIRC is the only chat thing I have installed on this computer right now because I reformatted, and I don't want to install any of my crap til I get my new laptop.

btw, me and some echonutters played a few rounds of CC yesterday. Good fun.

lukeiamyourdad
05-24-2004, 02:17 PM
Hmmm that makes us 7 with Connemara. Small team blance problem...

swphreak
05-24-2004, 04:11 PM
<.<

4pm

Close call. the forums have been up and down....

General Nitro
05-24-2004, 05:19 PM
when exactly is this game suppose to happen?

Admiral Vostok
05-24-2004, 05:27 PM
It was supposed to happen over an hour ago, I think you got your timezones mixed up Nitro!

Anyway it's just as well, because we had technical difficulties due to my being on a router... we're going to try again in two weeks by which time I should have everything sorted out...

swphreak
05-24-2004, 08:49 PM
Yeah, too bad.

I'll host next game since Vostok won't be able to make it. Same time (4pm EST on Sunday). Here's the catch.

You gotta come here (http://www.echonetwork.net/index.php?page=irc) to get the IP for direct connect because it's the only way you'll get ahold of me.

pbguy1211
05-25-2004, 11:08 PM
omg... i feel like such a silly person(*ahem DMUK ;) ). i hadnt been to the forums in awhile because i'd been getting trojan viruses in the ie temp folder. so i was sorta boycotting.

someone email me for the next go-round. i'll be around. i promiss!

pbguy1211 at yahoo!

swphreak
05-26-2004, 12:16 AM
It's ok PB, we ran out of time trying to fix technical problems. Also, I'll PM my IP before 4pm. Just goto the chat if we have problems.

And pb, the trojans have stopped for me. I still get that annoying javascript ad here, but no trojans.

pbguy1211
05-26-2004, 02:58 AM
did you all get the patch? and if not, do you need a link?

swphreak
05-26-2004, 11:17 AM
Yes, v1.1

I downloaded it from FileFront because the LucasArts site wasn't working and lucasfiles is messed up too.

General Nitro
05-26-2004, 05:12 PM
i havent downloaded anything and the trojans have stopped for me too.

DarthMaulUK
05-28-2004, 05:27 AM
Finally back online.

My PC has messed up so im spending the next decade downloading updates and re-installing. :-(


Trojans.
This should all be cleared up now. The advertisements that you see are linked through UGO network and we have informed them about the issue. This should have stopped now.

If you do have trojans on your pc, visit www.downloads.com and download search and destroy. It will remove them all.

Forum game.
I will set up a new thread as this one will get lost with all the chat. People can post their areas/time zones etc and i will keep on top of it to make it easier on the eye to read.

CC Patch
Not sure whats up with Lucasfiles (again) but once ive sorted out the new password for my FTP I will upload a new direct link to download it.

DMUK

FroZticles
05-28-2004, 06:49 AM
Maul you ment to get friendly with LA, so we can get info on any plans for a RTS. Not bash there games in your sig :P

I agree the game blows but you lasted longer with the boredom then me 3 months and I quit...

Battle droids are poping up in every new theme park.....

DarthMaulUK
05-28-2004, 08:36 AM
ah hehe

I spoke with one of the producers and told him how naff Galaxies is and will remain so.

I think they have through all their resources at this white elephant of a game because they are really crying out for decent reviews and awards and will probably stop at nothing to get them.

And if i tell you, most of the guys at LA dont even play Galaxies..hehe one of them doesnt even have a PC!

DMUK

Darth Windu
05-28-2004, 09:33 PM
See, and the really annoying thing about that is that Lucasarts could be making some quality games, and yet stick to rubbish like Galaxies, Mercenaries etc. Personally, i have come up with a few game concepts like-

- SWGB sequel RTS
- SW space-based RTS
- Prequel 'Rogue Squadron' type flight sim game, preferably on all systems
- Prequel 'Jedi Knight' series type game
- Star Wars 'Sim City' where you could build cities like Coruscant, Theed etc

Okay, the last one was bad, but i think the other four would be great.

pbguy1211
05-28-2004, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by Darth Windu

- SWGB sequel RTS
- SW space-based RTS
- Prequel 'Rogue Squadron' type flight sim game, preferably on all systems
- Prequel 'Jedi Knight' series type game
- Star Wars 'Sim City' where you could build cities like Coruscant, Theed etc

Okay, the last one was bad, but i think the other four would be great.

I don't get how you do an all space RTS... but whatever. And also, the SW SimCity might actually work. Even though SW is all about war. Do you have any idea how many ppl play on the zone who can't play an RM game and just do scenarios of either RPGs or Senate's or City Builds???

General Nitro
05-28-2004, 10:50 PM
...Do you have any idea how many ppl play on the zone who can't play an RM game and just do scenarios of either RPGs or Senate's or City Builds??? [/B]

that would be me. <hangs head in shame>

DarthMaulUK
05-29-2004, 02:45 AM
*sends the General to the corner of the room*

:D

The SW Sim City put a smile on my face, especially after Windu admitted to it being a bad idea! hehe. funny.

A Space RTS.. Rebellion/Supermacy worked with just the Empire and Rebellion and as i have said before, is a brilliant game. You can actually set up spy missions and even set traps like in Return Of The Jedis epic ending battle.

With so many new factions now, might make it difficult to make, so Civs like the gungans would have to join up with the Naboo and there would be no wookiees.

Anyway, this is all OT.

DMUK

FroZticles
05-29-2004, 05:58 AM
Jedi Knight has been given enough attention. I think LA is trying to create total new genres in the gaming department seeing as how they brag about how they break all the records.

I wouldn't go bashing mercenaries just yet it got great reviews and the thing I found amusing is. LA's best game named at E3 had nothing to do with star wars :O

They have to keep going with galaxies because people pay money monthly maybe if we paid we might get that kind of attention........

Star Wars Sim City!!!!!! I would just like to see who it would pan out :D

*hides sim city 4 cd* ;)

Darth Windu
05-29-2004, 06:09 AM
Well with Space-based RTS', Star Trek Armada was fantastic, and was completely space. Armada 2 introduced some good features as well, but over all wasnt as good as the original. Anyhow, i think this could work well for SW with the four major civs.

Id like a prequel-based 'Jedi Knight' because i personally find the PT more interesting than the OT, but also because the Jedi were mush...bigger during that time.
Ditto with the flight sim, although i would love to have the opportunity to fly Jedi Starfighter missions against TF Battleships, use Gunships to wipe out Confed armies, fly anti-fighter missions for assault ships etc - i really think there is a lot there to be explorer, especially considering the quality of Factor 5's RS games.

Finally to SimCity :). This actually came up because i was thinking that it would be sorta cool to play as an ordinary citizen in the SW universe rather than a pilot, jedi etc. Not one of my greatest ideas, but it sorta has that 'train wreck' quality about it.

saberhagen
05-29-2004, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by Darth Windu
i was thinking that it would be sorta cool to play as an ordinary citizen in the SW universe rather than a pilot, jedi etc.

Unfortunately that's what Galaxies is all about and it isn't cool... :(

swphreak
05-29-2004, 03:33 PM
Star Wars Space RTS = HW2 + Star Wars = awesome

And a "Star Wars Sim city" would be kinda cool. "Build Coruscant from the ground up... in a few years time!"

As for the new SWGB2 RTS, I'd love to see a Zero Hour type RTS with stuff to scale (meaning huge ass AT-ATs).


It's friday people! Sunday is coming up! :p

pbguy1211
05-29-2004, 04:11 PM
So are we gonna try to play this weekend or what?

swphreak
05-29-2004, 06:04 PM
Yeah, I'll host it. same time. I think it was 4PM EST on Sunday.

I'll PM my IP 5 mins before the match.

pbguy1211
05-29-2004, 09:06 PM
Excellent.

11

;)

lukeiamyourdad
05-29-2004, 09:56 PM
Right now I'm thinking Ground Control2/SWRTT but hey.

Jedi Starfighter does exist. It may be crappy but hey, it's a prequel based flight sim. There's also Battle for Naboo as an ep 1 flight sim. Frankly, I'm tired of SW flight sims and flight shooters, enough is enough. We've had so many great ones and nothing will be as good as Tie Fighter was. NOTHING!

I could care less about Mercenaries. They cancelled Sam & Max for it...

I cannot believe someone would dare say that the PT is better then the OT...burn in hell you heretic!!!

Darth Windu
05-30-2004, 04:40 AM
Well, 'Jedi Starfighter' is good if you have a PS2 or Xbox - which i dont. Also, the RS series gives you acces to numerous types of aircraft to fly, which is half the fun, and i would like to see it on all consoles plus PC. That, i think, is Lucasarts' primary weakness - they dont give a c**p about Gamecube owners, and its starting on the same path for PS2.

As for the Prequel Trilogy - bite me! :) I just like the PT universe in terms of greater Jedi presence, greater intrigue etc - its just cooler.

pbguy1211
05-30-2004, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Darth Windu
As for the Prequel Trilogy - bite me! :) I just like the PT universe in terms of greater Jedi presence, greater intrigue etc - its just cooler.

There are more Jedi, but they're complete suckers. Sorry... There's no character development of Mace Windu or any other Jedi.

And where is there any intrigue?!

Continues to "back up" OT laser discs to DVD... the only way I'll ever be content with those...

General Nitro
05-30-2004, 05:57 PM
bad news guys. i won be able to join yall's game tomorrow. this might actually be a good thing due to my cheap scenarioness. sry guys.

lukeiamyourdad
05-30-2004, 06:57 PM
Both Rogue Leader and Rebel Strike were on Game Cube...

By the way, when games are made simulatously(spl?) for all consoles and PC, lots of problems arise.

Darth Windu
05-31-2004, 12:26 AM
I realise that RS2 & 3 were only on Gamecube, but as i said i would like to see a PT version on all consoles, maybe not PC, because then everyone would be able to enjoy the game and no-one would be left out.

As for character development in the PT - there's no time for that. Remember that the OT takes places over a few years, with the same major characters, the only difference being that they get a little older. The PT trilogy however takes place over about 30 years, so the characters are very different, and the story to be told regarding the rise of the empire and whatnot leaves very little space for character development.

I also guess that my preference for the PT has something to do with my intense dislike of Luke Skywalker. To me, he comes accross as a very 'weak' character and really, it would have been nice for him to have died on the second death star.

swphreak
05-31-2004, 11:35 AM
Well, now I'm having my own technical problems. I have outdated drivers on this thing, and I can't download the current one because I can't create a support account yet...

I think the whole world is against us playing a simple game of galactic battlegrounds...

Maybe Luke can host, or someone else.

pbguy1211
05-31-2004, 12:49 PM
i'll host if you want

pbguy1211
05-31-2004, 03:59 PM
it's 10 mins to 4, i guess we arent playing since no one has posted or PMed me

lukeiamyourdad
05-31-2004, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by Darth Windu
I also guess that my preference for the PT has something to do with my intense dislike of Luke Skywalker. To me, he comes accross as a very 'weak' character and really, it would have been nice for him to have died on the second death star.

:eek:
OK...
Luke is weak right? Anakin is worse. In Ep1, he was ok but in Ep2 he was just so damn annoying. He kept acting like some little pissed off teenager who can't suck it up. A "weak" person wouldn't be falling to the dark side so easily.

Darth Windu
06-01-2004, 03:08 AM
I just think Luke is a weak character. I agree that Anakin is a bit annoying, but at least he's also pretty cool. I also dont like Mathew Broddrick (i think thats how you spell it) because he comes accross to me as weak. Also, i was never interested in the OT until Ep1 came out.

FroZticles
06-01-2004, 07:25 AM
Its trying to show Anakins emotions and how he lets them control him. He was let into the order, but he was to old and was not taught to fully control them. Plus Padawans are very easy to tempt to the darkside especially since he is always around Palpy.

lukeiamyourdad
06-01-2004, 04:22 PM
What the hell does Matthew Broderick has to do with Star Wars?

I've never found some annoying little stereotyped teenager cool...anyway, it's a matter of taste.
Though OT>PT forever.

saberhagen
06-02-2004, 08:15 AM
A computer generated Matthew Broderick (based on images ripped from Wargames) will be playing the young Han Solo in EpIII. Didn't you even know that? ;)