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Dr. Jekyll
06-23-2004, 12:47 AM
I've heard absolutely zilch about the fate of my favorite NPC. Anybody know whether or not she's coming back at all, or have the developers not said anything yet?

FiEND_138
06-23-2004, 01:23 AM
Don't think they've said anything yet. It's been asked countless times at the obsidian boards & no replies from the dev's.

RedHawke
06-23-2004, 03:19 AM
It will also probably depend on what you tell the game early on as to what happened to her in your game, whether Bastila died, went off with Jedi Revan, became Darth Revan's apprentice and lover, etc.

Lord of Banthas
06-23-2004, 11:32 AM
I think Bastila should probably come back since in either the LS or the DS ending she played a very important role in the fate of the galaxy.

*crosses fingers and awaits Basty's return*

Nevhision
06-23-2004, 06:19 PM
With luck it will be presented in the subtle interrogation about what happened inbetween. So if you killed Bastila and you're playing dark, you won't run into her in KOTOR2.

Ellderon
06-25-2004, 08:27 PM
Curse the Dark Side!!!!!

Samnmax221
06-29-2004, 01:06 PM
I'm thinking it's just going to continue as if you had a light side ending. Bastilla may not come back considering that your suposedly the last of the jedi.

Of course she may be in hiding like obi-wan and yoda were during the civil war.

lukeiamyourdad
06-29-2004, 07:29 PM
I'm pretty sure it'll be decided in the questionning at the beginning of the game.

RedHawke
06-29-2004, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad
I'm pretty sure it'll be decided in the questionning at the beginning of the game.

Yup, that is the way it has to happen. For Bastila and all the other NPC's as well.

Did you kill Carth or did he just run off, did he stay by your side. Is Juhani still alive, Jolee, Zzalbar, Mission, etc. The only 3 that are there no matter what are Canderous, HK, and T3.

0rlo
06-30-2004, 12:18 AM
it will be fun to see who comes back and who doesnt

FiEND_138
06-30-2004, 01:12 AM
^^^^
Indeed, thats probably one of the parts of this game I'm most excited about. Just to see how they implement it. Hopefully it's real subtle like & not "did Bastila eat a saber," etc, etc.

lukeiamyourdad
06-30-2004, 03:44 PM
That's what kind of worries me a bit. It's going to be very hard to be subtle with those questions.
I suppose some of the more irrelevent characters won't feature in the questionning.
I'm very curious as to how they're going to do that.

RedHawke
07-01-2004, 12:08 AM
^^^^^
Well, with some effort, they can cleverly discuise the questions, even hide them in the dialogue responses you are making to the NPC that is telling you what has happened to the republic while your main PC has been exiled.

I have been a GM and a player of the WEG paper and pencil Star Wars D6 RPG for over 15 years... has it been that long?
And I'll say you can definately find multiple clever ways to gain information from a player without them knowing it.

But yes lukeiamyourdad, how they execute the questioning of what happened in KOTOR will definately tell you how much effort they put in to the creation of the game.

If it is done bluntly and with no finesse then we might have another JA on our hands, not likely, but possible...
On the other hand if we don't detect the questions hardly at all, then we are probably going to be in for a real cool ride!

lukeiamyourdad
07-01-2004, 10:28 AM
There's another problem. They want you to answer the questions to determine how your KotOR 1 ended. If it's too subtle then there's no way of you being able to determine your own ending.

It's quite problematic.

ILB
07-01-2004, 11:06 PM
Of course some ppl that not own kotor 1 will buy kotor2.....
And they wont know nuthin about this questioning.
But I supose there will be Story at first about waht happend in kotor1...

RedHawke
07-02-2004, 12:15 AM
^^^^^
That is exactly why the questioning about your ending of KOTOR should be as subtle as possible, because some who buy KOTOR 2 may not own or have played KOTOR and that should also be addressed from within the game itself.

And luke, the questioning very well could be in a conversation(s) of what you know of Revan, your answers within the dialogues answer matrix can tell the game how KOTOR went for you... Lightside, Darkside, Bastila loves Revan, Juhani Alive, etc.

And for the people who didn't play KOTOR there will probably be options for them as well with answers like "I don't know", "I really didn't know Revan that well", "I can't remember", etc.

FiEND_138
07-02-2004, 03:07 AM
As long as it's not; "did Carth hightail it on the unknown world, did Bastila lose her head at the star forge, etc..", I'll be happy.
I think it will be blunt to a point, (it kinda has to) I just don't want it to be black or white.

*hopes that makes sence*

0rlo
07-02-2004, 03:38 AM
yeah, i would laugh it the convo read:

"what happened in KOTOR 1?"

-1-"well, bastilla got fragged, carth ran off like a wussy, zaalbar hadn't had his 8 square meals so he ate mission"

-2-"bastilla lived and got freaky with revan, revan beat the shizzle out of malak and juhani got a big litter box"

-3-"KOTOR 1, what's that?"

-4-"look meatbag, shutup"

i'd get mad and take the game outside for a good burning. then send it's remains to lucasarts with a get bent card.

JA was terrible, 50 clams for an expansion like game? what a rip off. if it weren't for modders that thing would be an expensive paperweight.

FiEND_138
07-02-2004, 03:41 AM
^^^^
Muahahha, well said :p

Completely agree.

khawk
07-02-2004, 07:07 AM
The questioning?
You probably find the Ebon Hawk with T3-M4 on board. Then you ask T3 what happened.
Answer: "Beep. Bop. Beep. Boop. Frotz."
Which you translate into what happened in Kotor 1. If you tell Darkside Bastila is probably the new Dark lord of the Sith. If Ligthside. Well, I guess she is hiding somewhere.

RedHawke
07-02-2004, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by 0rlo
yeah, i would laugh it the convo read:

"what happened in KOTOR 1?"

-1-"well, bastilla got fragged, carth ran off like a wussy, zaalbar hadn't had his 8 square meals so he ate mission"

-2-"bastilla lived and got freaky with revan, revan beat the shizzle out of malak and juhani got a big litter box"

-3-"KOTOR 1, what's that?"

-4-"look meatbag, shutup"

i'd get mad and take the game outside for a good burning. then send it's remains to lucasarts with a get bent card.

If it is that bad, not likely, but possible, then you won't be the only one sending LA some ashes.

Aleggy
07-26-2004, 08:19 PM
well i'm looking forward to playing kotor 2 and getting quizzed at the beginnig to see how you finished kotor 1 to play out the rest of the game can be as subtle or as blunt as it likes just as long as i get to play it

its just a shame that it looks like im going to have to wait 6/7 months to play it

but what if you are one of the ppl that have completed kotor so many time that just for laugh you played it so you've seen all the alternate endings

how do you answer those questions then

answer however you want its your game

or maybe you could play it more than once and try several different ways to begin the game

the choice is yours

Aleggy
07-26-2004, 08:29 PM
im sure that the programmers are trying to come up with a way so that kotor virgins get to fully enjoy kotor2 but lets be honest the vast amount of ppl that are going to be queing up to buy this game the second its released are going to be ppl like use who still cant get enough of kotor1 and want more

delarius
07-31-2004, 10:21 PM
I'm also quite interested to see how this "interrogation" system will be implemented to the game. And yes, I agree, depending on the bluntness on the system, that may give us an early look at the effort put into the game. If this interrogation system is done correctly in the beginning, the replayability of the game should skyrocket because of the many extreme possibilities throughout the game.

RedHawke
08-01-2004, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by delarius
If this interrogation system is done correctly in the beginning, the replayability of the game should skyrocket because of the many extreme possibilities throughout the game.

Exactly! :D

And don't you think that is what Obsidian has to be doing, think about it, the initial dialogues sets up the globals in the game so that certain NPC's could make cameos, possibly some very different things can happen later on in the game... That would mean a massive amount of replayability.

Mav
08-01-2004, 01:05 AM
The most recent thing I've read states, that NO NPCs that could have possibly died in KotOR 1 will make a cameo or appearence in KotOR 2, which means the only ones left would be T3-M4, HK-47 and Canderous. I highly doubt that though considering how much of an impact Bastila had in the previous game.

RedHawke
08-01-2004, 01:13 AM
^^^^
Of course they would say something like that Mav, it would ruin the suprise we would all get seeing Carth and Dustil on Telos, or Mission and Zaalbar somewhere else. We all know Bastila and Revan will have some small, or larger, part to play in KOTOR:TSL even if it is only in a few cutscenes.

They could easily put the other NPC's in pending the dialogued interrogation options about what happened in your KOTOR, and it would be an awesome suprise for the player, players would play through over and over just to find easter eggs like that, things like that are great for adding replayability.

Mav
08-01-2004, 01:24 AM
Well I hhope they are bluffing it because I want to see Bastila in the game I could really care less about the others, except HK-47 he is DA DROID....lol I want him or someone like him with me.

RedHawke
08-01-2004, 03:20 AM
^^^^
I sure hope they have the options for numerous KOTOR NPC cameo's.

Even cameos of the NPC's I don't like will still add flavor and character to the game.

pod99
08-01-2004, 08:11 PM
I'm afraid to say I fear she may be dead... It is of course possible to finish the first game (I guess this is a spoiler?) and kill Bastilla (although perhaps her constant appearance in the closing scene should lead us to believe you only hurt her and that she actually recovers...) Even if you don't kill Bastilla her chances of being about are, perhaps, thin. Consider the possibilities:

Light Side Ending, PC kills Bastilla = Bastilla is dead. If you buy the 'seriously hurt' to explain her presence in the end scene see below.

Light Side Ending, Bastilla Lives, no romance = so Bastilla is alive and is one of the best known Jedi in the galaxy. Since KOTOR2 PC is billed as the 'last Jedi' it seems fair to assume Bastilla (being a Jedi and all) is dead. When you consider she is a very powerful Jedi the Sith would have tried extra hard to kill her.

Light Side Ending, Bastilla Lives, with romance = the PC and Bastilla are both in love, both emotions which could lead to the dark side and weakness making their elimination even easier.

Dark Side Ending = Bastilla is now your apprentice. What do Sith apprentice's do? Attempt to Kill their Master. What would those below Bastilla attempt to do? Attempt to Kill Bastilla. Either way the PC might be forced to kill her or someone below Bastilla might kill her.

I'm not trying to eliminate Bastilla, it just strikes me that she might not be in the sequel. It would be terribly hard to include her in the game. Anyway, just my thoughts :cool:

Mav
08-01-2004, 09:30 PM
Very Good points pod99, that is very true about the new PC being the supposed last Jedi and I agree that Bastila would be one of the first targets in a lightside ending.

RedHawke
08-02-2004, 02:49 AM
Very good arguments pod99, but you also forgot the connection that Revan and Bastila shared.

That connection was very strong in the game and she would have followed Revan wherever Revan went after KOTOR, possibly leading to the explanation that the Sith are in the position of power they are in when KOTOR:TSL starts.

Bastila and her Battle Meditation were not available to the Republic forces to stop the massive Sith fleets, remember the Star Forge produced thoudands possibly hundreds of thousands of Sith ships.

A very good explination for why the Sith are so strong the start of KOTOR:TSL.

Obsidian also has stated that Revan's fate will be revealed, Bastila's is sure to be mentioned as well because they are most likely together, If she is alive at the End of KOTOR.

Just my 2 cents! :D

Mav
08-02-2004, 03:36 AM
Sounds like it is time for a new poll...

Choices:

1. Bastila dies before the beginning of KotOR: TSL

2. Bastila dies along the course of KotOR: TSL

3. Bastila lives on forever in the game and in my heart........umm yea riiiiighhttttt:rolleyes:

Personally I think that it is going to be either 1 or 2, either way shes dead.

RedHawke
08-02-2004, 03:44 AM
^^^^
Ever thought of this...

Revan and Bastila return as the new Sith Lords in KOTOR 3! :D

Mav
08-02-2004, 03:52 AM
^^^^
Nope never thought of that because I think that it is HIGHlY unlikely that BOTH of them live. In fact I would bet all $2.50 of my life savings on it....lol:)

RedHawke
08-02-2004, 05:11 AM
^^^^
No bet Mav! :D

Remember this is a Star Wars game we are talking about here, and Bastila was the focus of more than 2/3 of KOTOR so they are most likely alive, and they, especially Revan, yet have some part to play in KOTOR:TSL for good or ill we do not as yet know. :D

Mav
08-02-2004, 05:57 AM
I think that either Bastila or Revan will have an impact in KotOR: TSL for sure, but I think that their impact is going to vary depending on how your KotOR 1 ending went, because obviously the two paths at the end of KotOR 1 are very different, I think that at least one of them will prove to be dead though for EVERY ending in KotOR 2, whether it be Revan or Bastila, at least one of them will be dead, at least that is what I think.

RedHawke
08-02-2004, 06:35 AM
^^^^
Remember Mav the games engine hasn't changed so they are still going to be working with similar Dialogues, scripts, and global variables.

So while there will be differences as the game progresses they will probably be more subtle in nature, and the game will really vary only on the choices your PC takes in KOTOR:TSL.

Revan is alive no doubt, even Malak comments on how you are stronger than before.

But if we see Bastila in cutscenes it will be dependant on if she lived in your version of KOTOR, and you relay that properly to the game, thus setting the Bastila alive variable with a script attached to the dialogue response, etc. The same goes with the other NPC's

pod99
08-02-2004, 02:30 PM
I don't know about this Bastilla thing. I'm not sure if her presence is needed at all. I wonder if anyone has ever read / seen a play called "An Inspector Calls" ?

The play is about, surprisingly enough, a police inspector who visits a well-to-do family and investigates their role in the death of a local girl. The entire play is about how this one family contributes to her death by sacking her from a factory they own, by causing her to get fired from another job, by getting her pregnent and by refusing to let their chairty help her. Eventually the girl takes her own life.

Obviously there is a great deal more to it then that (and weirdly enough the Inspector isn't who he claims to be at all) but most uniquely we never meet the girl. We find out virtually nothing about her. Yet the entire play is about her even though we only know her name.

If done right Knights of the Old Republic might achieve a very similar thing - we don't need to see Bastilla, to get updates on her life etc. I think there's something far more artistic, more Star Wars like (remember the monster that attacks Luke at the beginning of the Empire Strikes Back? we barely see it) and it requires less 'so what happened last time' questions in having her presence hinted at, suggested rather then outright seeing her and being told whats happened.

Give us some open hints and then let us piece together the pieces in our own heads in such a way to fit our version of the first game. Whats great about an Inspector Calls is that the reader / viewer decides their own minds about the play - over whose really responsilbe for the death, if the girl has even died at all, over if the inspector is really who he says he is and even if hes a real person. Its an open ended play which empowers us to make the decision, I'd like to see KOTOR 2 do the same thing - let each of us write our own story / fate for Bastilla by being open ended.

Bizarre mixing of English Literature memories / KOTOR over :cool:

jedi_5002
08-03-2004, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by FiEND_138
Hopefully it's real subtle like & not "did Bastila eat a saber," etc, etc.
:rofl::rofl:

Originally posted by 0rlo
yeah, i would laugh it the convo read:

"what happened in KOTOR 1?"

-1-"well, bastilla got fragged, carth ran off like a wussy, zaalbar hadn't had his 8 square meals so he ate mission"

-2-"bastilla lived and got freaky with revan, revan beat the shizzle out of malak and juhani got a big litter box"

-3-"KOTOR 1, what's that?"

-4-"look meatbag, shutup"

i'd get mad and take the game outside for a good burning. then send it's remains to lucasarts with a get bent card.
1) :rofl::rofl:
2) :rofl:
3) Possible the best game ever (have to wait and see KotOR:TSL)
4) :lol:
I would take it back to the store to get my money back, and just send an email to LA and Obsidian:

Subject: KotOR:TSL questioning.
Message: Get Bent.

Originally posted by maverick187
Sounds like it is time for a new poll...

Choices:

1. Bastila dies before the beginning of KotOR: TSL

2. Bastila dies along the course of KotOR: TSL

3. Bastila lives on forever in the game and in my heart........umm yea riiiiighhttttt:rolleyes:
3

:fett:

GlobalStrike
08-03-2004, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by 0rlo
yeah, i would laugh it the convo read:

"what happened in KOTOR 1?"

-1-"well, bastilla got fragged, carth ran off like a wussy, zaalbar hadn't had his 8 square meals so he ate mission"

-2-"bastilla lived and got freaky with revan, revan beat the shizzle out of malak and juhani got a big litter box"

-3-"KOTOR 1, what's that?"

-4-"look meatbag, shutup"

i'd get mad and take the game outside for a good burning. then send it's remains to lucasarts with a get bent card.

JA was terrible, 50 clams for an expansion like game? what a rip off. if it weren't for modders that thing would be an expensive paperweight.

Lol. I hope it's not like that either. Like everybody has been saying, i hope it's real subtle. That is one of the moments of the game i'm looking forward to.:jawa :jawa

RedHawke
08-04-2004, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by GlobalStrike
Lol. I hope it's not like that either. Like everybody has been saying, i hope it's real subtle. That is one of the moments of the game i'm looking forward to.:jawa :jawa

Agreed! :D

I so love a good multiple-choice quiz! :D

Devilsfanatic
08-24-2004, 07:33 PM
Vandar: We Jedi now have a new tale to weave: The return of the Prodigal Knight Revan! This will surely come up, and I'd not be surprised if he is the Obi-Wan of this game. The only problem I see with this is that Revan had a different face for everyone who played the game.......mine was the black Denzel Washington look alike, some people had chicks, some people had white people, so how exactly do you portray the face and voice of Revan, if it was so different for everyone? Bastila, I think she's dead, or her and Revan are just living on their own, and have given up on the order, because of their love, they just felt that it'd be better that they weren't involved at all. There were things in KotoR that LA left open. Bastila and her mother, Griff, Jolee's wife, Dustil and Carth.......these all need to be resolved I believe for a sense of closure.....perhaps Zaalbar has become the Cheiftan of the Wookies? We need to find out all of these things.......either way, it'll be interesting what we're in store for :D

echodelta21
11-08-2004, 03:57 PM
Hi all,
Just thought i'd post a couple of thoughts.

It's been a long time (if not the first time) that a game like KOTOR has made me feel as if i'm inside a movie. Most games lack the depth of involvement, resulting in a nice game, with fun bits, shiny, cool bits and some satisfaction from completing the game.

I actually felt as if the characters in KOTORS were my friends (and enemies, in the case of Malak). The first time I confronted Malak at the Forge with only Force Wave, Immunity, Stasis Field and Adv L/S Throw, plus woefully few stims, the first words out of my mouth were 'Oh s*it, I'm going to get reamed'.

Before any smart bugger says it, I have plenty of real life friends.

Take Bastilla for example. Without looking at any spoilers, I managed to hash my way all the way through the romance subplot. Those elements of the game, which would seem trivial in any other game, were really important, as I wanted, actually WANTED Bastilla and Revan (me) to fall in love.

Hell, I wouldn't go past the battle with her on the Forge until I found the right combination of convo to turn here back. THAT was how much of a big deal it was. Didn't want her to be Malaks' Dark Biaatch (maybe my Light Biaatch :p ).

In any case, I really hope that she makes a return, a welcome one in my view. She was integral to the first KOTOR, and in a way, although the entire game surprised me by it's movie-like quality, Bastilla and the other character subplots were THE major attraction for me.

I feel that she needs to have quite an active part in the upcoming game. Somehow. At any cost.

Personally, her return would secure my purchase of the game, which is already 99% certain......but I still want her back! :)

Cyborgninja
11-08-2004, 04:23 PM
that was deep what a good way to start posting

I really do not care if the pyscho b*tch comes back or not

FiEND_138
11-08-2004, 04:41 PM
^^
Same here. Didn't much care for the character, so it doesn't matter to me one way or the other.


& WELCOME echodelta21 :holosid:

Aleggy
11-09-2004, 02:28 AM
welcome to the forums echodelta21, nice 1st post, i doubt that Bastilla will be part of the game in kotor2 tsl but she may be part of the plot she may even be lucky enough to have a cameo but i suspect you'll just hear about her in someones dialogue

echodelta21
11-09-2004, 03:42 PM
I must admit, I can't see her taking anything near a starring role in KOROR 2, but it'd be nice to have quite a bit of interaction with her. As I may or may not have mentioned in my 1st post, she was the reason why I kept playing KOTOR.

There were plenty of times I could have given up, but wanting to affect the outcome of Reven and Bastilla was my main driving force. To be quite frank, I couldn't give a hoot about the other characters. My standard party always consisted of Batilla and Juhani, or Jolee (sp?) if Bastilla was not around.

The way I see it is that they can't write her out completly. Althought unsatisfactory from my POV, even a small convo or cut scene to explain her actions in between the 2 games would be mandatory. I just get a warm fuzzy feeling about having a familar character back in the game. As for the only recurring character, I could care less about the damn dustbin-on-wheels droid. I had virtually no interaction with the character after Taris.

That's my 2 cents, apologies for the spelling, but it's been a party night. I can do deep and meaningful posts sober, but when half-cut, the spelling goes very, very c*ap. :p

lukeiamyourdad
11-09-2004, 05:49 PM
It's crap, not c*ap ;)

Bastilla will be hard to put into KOTOR2. She can die even if you chose the lightside ending.

RedHawke
11-09-2004, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad
Bastilla will be hard to put into KOTOR2. She can die even if you chose the lightside ending.
Bastila being alive at your KOTOR's end is not really a hard thing to determine, and set a game global for her to appear later on, during the games initial what happened in your game of KOTOR dialogues.

Aleggy
11-10-2004, 02:25 PM
ok a lot of the members that visit this forum love bastilla many i love bastilla threads have been locked and effectively banned but that said it is very unlikely that they'll include bastilla in kotor2 as a major role and the best we can hope for is a cameo 'maybe'

however if you think about it you'll realize that in kotor 2 there'll be some other love interest that we'll all drool over, and the dialogues will be just as addictive and maybe even funny but saying that its going to be a crap game just because bastilla isnt in it is just a tad judgemental because it is perfectly possible that obsidian will create a perfectly good game without bastilla in it

however that said Bastilla Rocks

p.s. here is a link to an interview about kotor tsl
http://xbox.gamespy.com/xbox/star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic-2/565256p1.html?fromint=1

lukeiamyourdad
11-11-2004, 04:27 AM
Originally posted by RedHawke
Bastila being alive at your KOTOR's end is not really a hard thing to determine, and set a game global for her to appear later on, during the games initial what happened in your game of KOTOR dialogues.


I was thinking about what Rat Boy posted on the other thread, about how you would determine Revan's gender and alignment. It takes a very subtle way to say:"Did Bastilla die or no?"

If you answer no, I guess you can expect to see her(or not it is possible). If you say yes then there's no need to hear of her fate.

DarthBrownBread
11-13-2004, 10:50 AM
I think she will be mentioned in KOTOR2, but I don't think she will come back, because if you chose the dark side option in KOTOR1, then she dies on the star forge, and if you chose the light side option then she lives, but it says that all of the Jedi have been wiped out, so I don't think she will return.

RedHawke
11-13-2004, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by DarthBrownBread
because if you chose the dark side option in KOTOR1, then she dies on the star forge, and if you chose the light side option then she lives,
:eyeraise: Uh... Have you played the DS and LS endings in KOTOR?

Because Bastila most certainly does not die in the DS ending, and she can only be killed in the LS ending.

If you go DS in KOTOR Bastila joins you, and becomes your apprentice, on the temple summit, and she most definately lives in the DS ending, as she re-introduces you to your Sith Troops in the ending cutscene.

You can only kill Bastila doing the LS ending on the Star Forge in the Command Center, of course any true lightsider will tell you that redeeming Bastila is always the way to go.

:D

X_Fighter
11-14-2004, 04:19 AM
there was part of the dialog of what happened to revan on the obsidian board that was released if revan was female

i'll put it up here for all to see.


*BIG spoilers*





Atton: "Yeah, Revan, Malak, and the Jedi that went to join them in the Mandalorian Wars. They turned against the other jedi and had a scrap that almost laid waste to the galaxy. Heh. Where have you been?"

PC: "Ive heard a few rumors but little else in my travels."

"Ive been...away since the Mandalorian
Wars."

"Just tell me what happened next."

The rest of the options cannot be seen. First option chosen.

Atton: "Well I wasnt there, but like all Sith, Revan and Malak turned on each other. After they turned on the Jedi of course."

PC: "The rumors I heard said that Revan defeated Malak, then went to Korriban to unite the Sith against the Republic."

"I was to led to believe that Revan saved the Jedi - and the"

if first option chosen again

Atton: "That was the story - but whatever happened there must not have lasted. There was some big civil war on Korriban, knocked that academy to the ground. Look's like Revan's grand crusade finally consumed
her."

su27
11-17-2004, 02:33 AM
They can also give us an option to import old savegames - not pc & items, just some variables.
Users without final savegame could just start a game set up by LA.
Users with imported savegame variables could have main npcs LS/DS journey continued.

stingerhs
11-17-2004, 07:42 AM
^^^^
i think one of the developers specifically stated that tsl will not look at old savegames to deturmine what happened.

but don't hold me to that. :D

FiEND_138
11-17-2004, 11:28 AM
^^
Believe I read the same at the OE boards.

Aleggy
11-17-2004, 01:03 PM
well judging by thae fact that it has been stated several times that at the begining of the game your going to be asked subtle questions to determine how you ended kotor i doubt they'll be searching for old save game files

su27
11-17-2004, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by Aleggy
well judging by thae fact that it has been stated several times that at the begining of the game your going to be asked subtle questions to determine how you ended kotor i doubt they'll be searching for old save game files

I didn't know that.
But, i'm IT specialist, for me it looks much easier to make a script looking for a couple savegame variables than to try to make everyone happy with some questions :)

Darth333
11-17-2004, 03:01 PM
But they won't do it. I have read it somewhere at Obsidian some months ago. Anyways...the variables in my saved games are messed up...I use to warp to the leviathan after Dantoine, tweak variables to continue playing normally as you know who but with Bastila in my party, change class , change sex, change variables for side quests, switch things on the Unknown world to avoid restarting the game, and all sorts of other silly things..:D

RedHawke
11-17-2004, 08:56 PM
^^^^
I agree with you Darth333, if TSL was going to look at savegames globals on my PC and its KOTOR savegames, I honestly believe a massive crash would occur at some point. At the very least some smoke would erupt from the PC Case! :D
Originally posted by su27
But, i'm IT specialist, for me it looks much easier to make a script looking for a couple savegame variables than to try to make everyone happy with some questions :)
Sorry su27 but OE is making it be NPC questions setting new variables in initial game dialogues instead of searching for KOTOR save game variables, it is actually easier the way OE is doing it.

My reason is thus; While we answer questions we will also be learning what has happened in the 5 years in-between KOTOR and KOTOR:TSL, who our new adversaries are going to be, and the current state of the galaxy, a very PnP RPG thing to do, IMHO. :D

ChAiNz.2da
11-17-2004, 11:54 PM
Also, keep in mind. They have to develop ($$$) for the people (dare I say) who've never played KotOR before (blasphemy!!).

Granted it being a script, it could return a "true/false" variable if it didn't find a save game, but (insert repeat of Darth333's & RedHawke's statements about 'tweaked' save games).

Answering questions would be an "all-in-one" answer to the above problems. PLUS, if it gets me to actually 'playing' the game a little quicker...I'll answer a few questions...(then Force Choke him when his back is turned for making me wait..hehe) ;)