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Darth Groovy
07-02-2004, 03:08 AM
Basically to make a long story short. Sometime last month, my computer got infected with a virus, simultaneously, Internet Explorer got infected with a crap load of spyware.

Since then, I've handeled the virus problem, and moved over to Mozilla Firefox, but I cannot seem to get internet explorer repaired. When I click on certain links in mIRC, IE still opens them, even though I selected Firefox as my default browser.

So then, I tried to go to the default programs and access menu, and set Mozilla as my default Browser there, and It won't let me. It says "saving changes" and just keeps up doing that forever. Finally after about a day of that, I cancelled it.

Then I figured I would just delete Internet Explorer all together, and re-install later if ABSOLUTELY necessary. I'd just like to get rid of IE and forget about it. Well, it won't delete.

Everytime I try to delete it, it says that it is being used by another program, or another user.....wtf? I don't share any files on my network, and currently no programs, or applications, or ANY other fecking computer in this house is even on?

So what i'm asking is....what do I do?

RpTheHotrod
07-02-2004, 03:31 AM
DO NOT DELETE IE


It is PART of windows itself. I used to never use it, so I deleted it. Soon afterwards, nothing on the computer would work. I couldnt even open .txt files. Had to format the whole computer.

Treacherous Mercenary
07-02-2004, 03:48 AM
We all know IE is doomed to a pathetic miserable end, so just get Firefox! :D

Tyrion
07-02-2004, 04:38 AM
Originally posted by The Silent One
We all know IE is doomed to a pathetic miserable end, so just get Firefox! :D

Since then, I've handeled the virus problem, and moved over to Mozilla Firefox, but I cannot seem to get internet explorer repaired. When I click on certain links in mIRC, IE still opens them, even though I selected Firefox as my default browser.

Anyway Groovy, I use Avant which builds upon Internet Explorer. I had a few compatibility problems with firefox(Java wouldn't work, was slow with the essential Tabbrowser Extension, ect). The security problems aren't that bad for me, since I have two anti-spyware programs(Spybot Search and Destroy, which I have set to imunisize against spyware, and Adware) and Norton Anti-Virus set up.

Groovy, instead of deleting it, just add an extra letter to the Internet Explorer executable, incase you need it afterall like RP said.

Jedi_Vogel
07-02-2004, 04:43 AM
If you're running windows XP you can't delete it because MS in their innate wisdom decided integrating a purely bug-ridden browser into an operating system was a good idea.

With opening URLs in mIRC and other such things, this option has to sometimes be set MANUALLY through each piece of software. I use Opera and Firefox but it took me a while to root out every piece of software invoking Innate Evil browser.

Good Luck on your Journey, you are entering a whole new realm, enjoy the freedom :)

Mercenary
07-02-2004, 04:59 AM
Yeah, it's unwize to delete Internet Explorer. Someone told me they tried to delete My Documents and Windows had a heart attack.

I've been using Firefox for about a week now. There's some bugs but it's much better than IE.

Astrotoy7
07-02-2004, 06:15 AM
yeah, love it or hate it IE is hardwired into xp man..... ive tried other browsers, but just feel weird, im too used to IE...... :(

mtfbwya

edlib
07-02-2004, 07:53 AM
You also can't get automatic Windows Updates without IE...

I tried to remove IE manually when I got my first modern PC (Win 95) since I was a Netscape kinda guy... long story short my PC was completely retarded after that and I ended up having to reinstall everything... 'Twas a learning experience indeed.

toms
07-02-2004, 08:14 AM
i know there was a "windows-lite" project around that managed to strip IE out of previous versions of windows without killing it (something i think microsoft had claimed in court was impossible)....
but i have no idea if it continued onto XP, or if microsoft finally managed to make it unremovable.
After a recent update i've currently got a problem on every program i use EXCEPT my internet browser... I've just looked up the problem on the web and the suggested solution is to CHANGE A SETTING IN IE!!! shows how integrated it is into the whole mess.

I use avant too... (and all the spyware, firewall, anti-virus stuff) but i'm getting a bit fed up of having to update everything all the time to keep my pc clean. Unfortunately I can't find an alternative that is as universally usable. Not their fault, but down to the fac that everyone has customised their sites to only work in IE... especially important ones like internet banking.

Samuel Dravis
07-02-2004, 08:28 AM
MS made it where IE is impossible to separate from the OS because they wanted to be able to get around court rulings that were not in their favor...

PR-0927
07-02-2004, 09:07 AM
Yeah, Microsoft did get sued by a European Union for, like, $250- $650 million dollars because of this "anti-uninstall-Internet Explorer" stuff.

I use Opera 7.5 and FireFox .9. On my laptop, I use Opera 7.5, on my family's desktop, I use FireFox...and Opera 7.5 every once in a while.


I HATE INTERNET EXPLORER!!

:fett:

Clemme w/Stick
07-02-2004, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
yeah, love it or hate it IE is hardwired into xp man..... ive tried other browsers, but just feel weird, im too used to IE...... :(

mtfbwya

Same here. I cant get use anything but IE, even though I know it suck. Just too used to it.

-Clemme

Sabretooth
07-02-2004, 09:21 AM
Try uninstalling it in Safe Mode, if you are really daring, and if it is available in your version of Windows.

Jedi_Vogel
07-02-2004, 09:37 AM
A lot of people claim this "Too deep rooted, use to it" argument. The fact is, if you decide I AM GOING TO DITCH IE, you can do it, but you have to persist.

For example, my Opera link is where IE used to be and I have to go via the start menu now for IE.

You just have to be determined enough. ok, so tearing IE out of windows may not be a wise idea, but for internet surfing there is NO reason why you can't give it a good shot, if you want to.

Except for the aforementioned internet banking, and other IE-specific sites, which do my head in. :p

Codja X
07-02-2004, 03:55 PM
Or alternatively you could stop using Windows altogether and install Linux.

Or in my case, not:)

Anthony
07-02-2004, 04:07 PM
Or, you could dual-boot. Like me.

RoxStar
07-02-2004, 07:28 PM
Linux=Mozilla=Good Times.

Treacherous Mercenary
07-02-2004, 07:50 PM
If I had the patience for linux, I would have done a dual boot, but for now.. I'll stick with windows and learn linux when I know exactly what I'm doing. :)

MennoniteHobbit
07-02-2004, 08:17 PM
FireFox is at 0.9.1 now, with a couple of good bugfixes. Though I haven't encountered practically any with 0.9.

Don't delete IE, or even try, with XP. IE, Notepad, etc. are "protected and critical" programs to XP. That's why you can't rename the program (not the shortcut) or do some workaround like that.

I'd not get Linux unless someone paid me a LOT to. :p

Darth Groovy
07-03-2004, 01:15 AM
Ok, thread summary.

1. Inernet Explorer sucks.
2. Do not delete Internet Explorer.

So that being said and done, what can I do to:

A. Fix the infected beast that is IE?
B. Get mIRC to open my links in Firefox?

StormHammer
07-03-2004, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
Ok, thread summary.

1. Inernet Explorer sucks.
2. Do not delete Internet Explorer.

So that being said and done, what can I do to:

A. Fix the infected beast that is IE?
B. Get mIRC to open my links in Firefox?

If you've really got some serious problems with it at the moment, I'd say go for a fresh install of Windows, then install Firefox 0.9.1 and don't ever open IE.

My own PC has been a bit jittery of late, so I've been thinking of doing a reinstall. Of course, I need to back up reams of data first.

Jedi_Vogel
07-03-2004, 03:51 AM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
A. Fix the infected beast that is IE?
B. Get mIRC to open my links in Firefox?

A. At least run Windows Update...or download the whole IE/OE package and reinstall.

B. Yes, basically speaking. Having uninstalled mIRC to fix a strange right-click lag when online, I can't tell you where the option is...sorry.

Enjoy the journey ;)

P.S. Those who dual-boot, how much diskspace do you have and any serious issues?

Sabretooth
07-03-2004, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
A. Fix the infected beast that is IE?


I thought Windows was a smashed critter...

Jedi_Vogel
07-03-2004, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by sabretooth
I thought Windows was a smashed critter...

Which had swallowed an infected beast called IE before it got smashed up :lol:

manoman81
07-03-2004, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
Since then, I've handeled the virus problem, and moved over to Mozilla Firefox, but I cannot seem to get internet explorer repaired. When I click on certain links in mIRC, IE still opens them, even though I selected Firefox as my default browser.
....
So what i'm asking is....what do I do?

Try this...Open Windows Explorer and go to Tools>Folder Options. Once that opens up, click on the File Types tab. Look for the mIRC file and change it to open with whatever other browser you're going to use. See if that helps.

I used to use MYIE2 but it had some bugs it that really got to me lately. So, I'm using Opera and its pretty cool.

toms
07-03-2004, 10:17 AM
http://www.techimo.com/forum/t111980.html

unfortunately the xp-lite version is nolonger freeware as it used to be with 98.

Joetheeskimo
07-03-2004, 02:06 PM
Groovy, quit blaming it on IE, stop downloading pr0n :xp:

*runs like hell*

MennoniteHobbit
07-03-2004, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
B. Get mIRC to open my links in Firefox?

ChatZilla (the IRC plugin for FireFox) isn't that bad, and gets the job done.

Groovy, quit blaming it on IE, stop downloading pr0n

*runs like hell*

:D

I've tried MyIE2 before. It stinks. Real bad. I couldn't open up links in the present tab. It opened ALL links in a new tab. Its proxy configs suck, and I don't even know how to use them! :indif:

Anyways stick with IE and fix it, or get FireFox.

guest
07-03-2004, 03:44 PM
stab IE with a plastic fork then run around the street laughing like a madman.

well it worked for me!

SkinWalker
07-06-2004, 02:23 AM
Run Ad-Aware as soon as you can.

Run MS Update right after that to fix latest IE holes... except for the latest one that they refused to fix until just now (http://arstechnica.com/news/posts/20040703-3960.html).

Download Opera 7.5

Use Trillian Pro instead of MIRC (or Opera's built in IRC client).

Keep IE updated and handy for sites that will only work under IE and not Mozilla, Opera, or Netscape. There are a lot, since many sites are built with software that ignores true .html standards.

Opera 7.5's popup blocker is great. The mouse-gestures alone keep me using Opera and I get ticked off everytime I have to use IE and it doesn't go "back" when I rightclick-leftclick.

As a sidebar: even the Dept. of Homeland Security Says to Stop Using IE (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=74&e=3&u=/cmp/20040702/tc_cmp/22103407)

BongoBob
07-06-2004, 06:36 AM
Hmmm

I better get used to firefox, what with the new net and all...

Cool :cool:

And on a sidenote to that sidebar...:rofl:

KBell
07-06-2004, 01:11 PM
F1r3f0x r0xxers mY B0xX3rs

Tyrion
07-06-2004, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by MennoniteHobbit


I've tried MyIE2 before. It stinks. Real bad. I couldn't open up links in the present tab. It opened ALL links in a new tab. Its proxy configs suck, and I don't even know how to use them! :indif:

Anyways stick with IE and fix it, or get FireFox.

I downloaded MyIE2 too, and it stunk for me. Try using Avant instead, it does the open-link-in-present-tab and is very compatible with more websites than what Firefox was for me.

Besides, I got an updated Spybot in resident protecting specfically against IE spyware.