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Burrie
07-18-2004, 03:48 PM
You know, one of the things in KotOR that is pretty much a mystery is Revan. In the few appearances that Darth Revan has throughout KotOR, he has an air of mystery around him. No witty banter when Bastila tells him that 'he cannot win', nor any explanation when Malak voices his complaints about the Star Forge. Amongst Revan's mysteries is that mask of his, and why he continues to wear it. A personal pet theory of mine was that it was some sort of custom from Revan's people or whatever. Granted, the best reason is the fact that the player would not be allowed to learn his true identity just yet when seeing his backstory.

... but that's not quite what I wish to discuss here. Awhile ago, I couldn't help but notice how Revan's mask seemed to be a bit inspired by the helmets that Palpatine's Royal Guards wear. Then I was later thinking how the helmets of the Royal Guards also seemed to resemble Lord Mandalore's mask in a way.

Then a little connection was made(duh :P)... Revan's mask seems to resemble that of Lord Mandalore. For those who are unaware of what Lord Mandalore's mask looks like, here's a picture from the Tales of the Jedi comic...

http://kumba.drachentekh.net/pics/ehavatars/mandalore1.jpg

In comparison, here is a picture from a masked Darth Revan...

http://stud.hro.nl/0751443/Revan.jpg

Granted, the masks don't completely fit. However, maybe the mask was changed a little when the new Lord Mandalore took the reigns, before beaten by Revan. Or a different intepretation on Bioware's part? Who knows?

In a way, this could fit IIRC, there's little that could work against it. Revan himself battled Lord Mandalore one-on-one and came out victorious. Perhaps he sees the mask as a personal prize, and kept it personally, making sure that the Mandalorians would never, *ever* rise as a grand, established army under one leader, thus resolving whatever problem they might cause when he would rise as the Sith. Perhaps he'd think that he could have the Mandalorians as his allies this way? Maybe he just thought it would look cool. Who knows? This is my theory, and I just might be sticking to it.

Any thoughts?

illuzion69
07-19-2004, 01:45 AM
You know I've never thought about that but now, after reading your post, it sounds like a possibility. I guess in the end that it would have to be confirmed or denied by George Lucas or an offical spokesperson of his, but I think that it makes sense. Great idea btw.

RedHawke
07-19-2004, 01:48 AM
Your right on Revans Mask looking Mandalorian Burrie. I also love the slightly ancient Egyptian look of the rest of Revan's outfit as well.

My opinion on Revans mask is, I think that Revan might have styled his/her mask from the Mandalorian designs because while leading the fight against the Mandalorians, Revan might have came to respect/understand their spirit, and possibly even some of their ways.

This might have led to the Mandalorian influence to the Masks design.

FiEND_138
07-21-2004, 03:22 AM
Interesting. I do see the similarities, & I think Revan would keep the mask as some sort of trophy (especially if started toward the DS at that point). Whether his is the real deal or not, who knows. But I'll jump on the boat & say he modeled his after Mandalore's.

Mav
07-23-2004, 07:12 AM
Once again Burrie, this is some very intersting stuff, me not knowing all of this Star Wars stuff past the movies and KotOR, I found this very interesting because doesn't Canderous say that Mandalore was defeated by Revan, so it seems very possible that he took the mask as his prize. Thanks for the info.

Mono_Giganto
07-23-2004, 11:44 AM
Wow, you know for some reason that seems pretty cool... I never thought that it might have been Mandalorian, I assumed it was just some Sith mask thingie.

dark jedi 8
07-24-2004, 02:37 PM
interesting find Burrie. on your note it may be a possability that he took the mask as his first step onto a new path (the dark side) or he took it because this was his first oponent that he felt was a worthy adversary and so wanted to keep the trophy. i agree with everyone's ideas, they all seem waranted unless of course KOTOR 2 says otherwise.

seawolfe
07-26-2004, 11:23 PM
Actually .. in studying comparisons of the mask .. has anyone thought that it just might be a very early version of the mandalorian helmet that boba fett actually wears. It looks somewhat similar .. though BF's has more dark visor in it running vertically.

jedi_5002
07-27-2004, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by seawolfe
Actually .. in studying comparisons of the mask .. has anyone thought that it just might be a very early version of the mandalorian helmet that boba fett actually wears. It looks somewhat similar .. though BF's has more dark visor in it running vertically.

Boba Fett's helmet (and armor) are infinitely cooler though. ;) :D
Yeah, they do look somewhat similar, so maybe.

:fett:

Darth Dex
07-27-2004, 01:14 PM
Earlier, don't you mean later, Jango is far from the KotOR time period, and the helmet Boba wears is Jango's.

kome566
07-28-2004, 08:35 AM
The Mandy's against the Republic Fleet Lead by Revan and Malak,I guess Revan challenged the leader to a one vs one match,the loser dies and his army never rises again.Soo i guess he won he took the mask and he got corrupted :D So it begins . . .

RedHawke
07-28-2004, 01:21 PM
^^^^
O...K... I think! :D

But didn't Canderous mention about the last battle of the war being a large engagement?

It would be pretty hard in a large Naval engagement to go one on one with anyone, in melee.

kome566
07-28-2004, 03:58 PM
or one of them contacted each other and agreed to 1v1 on a floating dueling platform :D :D :D :D :D

seawolfe
07-28-2004, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by Darth Dex
Earlier, don't you mean later, Jango is far from the KotOR time period, and the helmet Boba wears is Jango's.

Um .. no .. I believe Jango is from the period where the Republic falls and the Galactic Empire starts. And KotOR takes place 4000 years before the Galactic Empire.

Unless I'm missing something about Jango

jedi_5002
07-29-2004, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by seawolfe
Um .. no .. I believe Jango is from the period where the Republic falls and the Galactic Empire starts. And KotOR takes place 4000 years before the Galactic Empire.

Unless I'm missing something about Jango

From just before. The Republic is on the down swing, but he doesn't make it to the bottom.

:fett:

Venom750
08-01-2004, 09:10 PM
that a bloody good theroy Burrie i got to take my MASK off to you
Ha..HA..Ha do you see what i did there:fett: :fett:

kome566
08-02-2004, 11:30 PM
yes i think he did . .b/c you HIGHLIGHTED it... lmao:D :D :rofl:

Darth Dex
08-03-2004, 09:37 PM
I dont get it.....

RedHawke
08-04-2004, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by Darth Dex
I dont get it.....

Me niether.... :confused:

Must be an inside joke.

FiEND_138
08-04-2004, 03:03 AM
:yodac: Hmmmmmmmm......................

Darth_ToMeR
08-07-2004, 08:58 AM
the picture of mandalore doesn't work.

Darth Dex
08-09-2004, 04:30 PM
It doen't work for me either.

kome566
08-09-2004, 04:55 PM
Inside jokes make me cry :eek: and the Mandolore's pic doesnt work too for me

Pabby
05-19-2006, 05:52 PM
Sorry to dig up an old topic, but it was confirmed I believe that Revan took the helmet of the mandalore during the wars just before KOTOR, meaning yes, yes it is.

igyman
05-19-2006, 06:05 PM
No it's not! Have you not played TSL? Have you somehow managed not to meet Canderous (Mandalore) in TSL? Have you not seen his helmet? Does the helmet not look different than Revan's mask? Did Canderous not tell you how he recovered the helmet of the old Mandalore (the helmet that he now wears)?

You think about these questions.

Lantzen
05-19-2006, 06:34 PM
They are not the same helmet, but Revan told Canderous where to find the mandalore helmet. And this is what i call bumping, 2 year. How long did you search before you found this thread?

RedHawke
05-20-2006, 02:19 AM
And this is what i call bumping, 2 year. How long did you search before you found this thread?
I agree...

Pabby I appreciate your zeal but please try and refrain from 'bumping' a 2 year old thread. Unless you had some verifiable proof or something major to add to the thread topic, but I don't see either of them in your post.

Prowling around the older threads looking for things to post is not encouraged around here... sorry.

Edit: Well someone tried to 'bump' this thread again with a rather useless post so I am :lock: this until such time as someone gives a good reason to open it again. :disaprove