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The Tingler
07-22-2004, 01:26 PM
Let me get one thing straight for the moderators - this is not a help thread, so should not be moved to the 'Help!' forum.

Let me get the next thing straight for all the people who visit (because moderators aren't people, they're Nazi robots in disguise) - LucasArts adventures get people stuck. Fact.

This thread, as the title suggests, is for people who got stuck at any one point in any LucasArts Adventure, but were too embarrassed to admit it.

It may have been something stupid, like overlooking an object or pressing 'Push' when you should've pressed 'Pull' or 'Pick Up'.

It could have been one of the majors, like the 'Monkey Wrench' gag in Monkey Island 2 or the 'If this is three...' puzzle in, er, Monkey Island 2.

This thread, as the title suggests, is a Confessional. No one will point and laugh, it's just here for people to confess their secret shames - where did you get stuck on something you shouldn't have? Did you use a Hintbook far too often, and wish you hadn't?


Shall I go first? Fine.

"You defiled my platypus!"
Escape From Monkey Island: Spray Eau de LeChuck on Ozzie's Platypus.
I didn't know this. I never worked it out. I tried spraying him and his canes with the stuff, but not the dead animal in front of him. Consequently I was walking around Lucre Island with termites in my pocket for ages.

"I bet it's controlled by a series of magnets deep under the Earth's crust."
Sam & Max Hit The Road: Walk In Mirror at Mystery Vortex, switch Magnets on/off to find the entrance to Shuv-oohl's room.
Found the secret mirror entrance, played with the first two magnets... but didn't find the third. I didn't know there was a third! Then I walked right a little bit...

"I hope LeChuck hasn't put an evil SPELL on him or anything..."
Monkey Island 2: All.
I was NINE, alright?! My first LucasArts adventure, and I thought it was impossible. I was only used to Cannon Fodder and Sonic the Hedgehog! So I used a Hintbook... all. The. Way. Through. Until. The. End! I'm ashamed, okay?

Anyone else want to share their pain?

Skinkie
07-23-2004, 02:35 AM
MI2:

That hand thing guessing thing took me awhile. Also cutting off the peg leg just never occured to me.

Alien426
07-23-2004, 04:18 AM
Sam & Max:
I never saw the book above Conroy Bumpus' bedroom door.

EMI:
Had to use a walkthrough for the whole Ozzie shebang, too.

The Tingler
07-23-2004, 10:35 AM
The Dig, anyone?

Here's another two:

"Think of BOMBS!"
Indiana Jones & The Fate of Atlantis: Push Stone Circle at the Dig Site.
I swear on LeChuck's grave that I pushed the damn thing. Over and over again. Then I check a walkthrough which says "Push the Stone Circle", I mutter "I tried that, try it again... and it works. Damn.

"Misfire! Misfire!"
Monkey Island 2: Spit when the wind blows.
Even WITH the walkthrough this got me stuck. Even REPLAYING the game until recently I always thought it was a particular combination of actions that allowed you to pass the marker. Exchanged flags, drank the drink, but until I accidentally stumbled on a decent walkthrough I never thought about the wind.
And that's why MI2 is the best adventure ever. It STILL gets me stuck thirteen years after I first played it!

Alien426
07-23-2004, 11:06 AM
The Dig: of course!

Much like everyone else I was stuck at the planearium. It was one of those impossible puzzles. At least the similar stone-disc puzzle in Indy 4 had good hints.


fun fact: I omitted the t from planetarium and thus South Park-ized it

The Tingler
07-26-2004, 12:36 PM
Everyone else too scared to admit their secret shames?

Skinkie
07-26-2004, 12:55 PM
In DOTT it took me forever to realize I had to push the speaker over to knock the barf off the ceiling.

Rapp Scallion
07-26-2004, 03:09 PM
Well, I really don't remember, but I know I have been helped in a lot of games.

But the one I remember:
I think I used a walkthrough through MI1. Or maybe just when I was stuck and didn't know what to do. Don't remember quite.

MI2: Too long since I played it, so I don't know how much walkthrough I used on it. And my brain is made in a way that I won't forget the puzzles. But I know I used a walkthrough in the end, in the tunnels. It was too scary, walking around, not knowing what to do, and suddenly LeChuck comes and startles me.

MI3: The bubble gum thingy with the goldtooth. I managed to get it out by myself, but it was the wrong way to do it (http://www.worldofmi.com/features/trivia/errors.php?game=MI3&s=1#2). So I needed help to find out the correct one. I asked someone who had played it.

MI4: The final battle.

Sam'n'Max: I was stuck with the magnet thing. Didn't know that the colours of the magnets should be the same as the doors I wanted to enter. So my cousin told me. But I didn't ask, he just tolk me.

DOTT: The two twins' beds. In the past.

Maniac Mansion: Walkthrough all the way. I didn't like it, so I used a walkthrough to complete it as fast as I could. But the walkthrough didn't tell me how to get past Red Tentacle, so I figured out a way to do it. Turn off the thingy outside the prison, and red will walk away. Then he didn't try to stop me when I entered his lab (but he was standing there, though... some error I guess)

The Dig: Nothing! It was really hard, and I managed it all by myself!

Grim Fandango: I think I used walkthrough at some places in it, but I didn't complete it. It stopped working. So when I played it again, I had forgotten a lot. But then I completed it without a walkthrough.

Well, that's all for now. It was good to get it out :)

-Rapp Scallion

Joshi
07-26-2004, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by The Tingler
"Misfire! Misfire!"
Monkey Island 2: Spit when the wind blows.
Even WITH the walkthrough this got me stuck. Even REPLAYING the game until recently I always thought it was a particular combination of actions that allowed you to pass the marker. Exchanged flags, drank the drink, but until I accidentally stumbled on a decent walkthrough I never thought about the wind.
And that's why MI2 is the best adventure ever. It STILL gets me stuck thirteen years after I first played it!

13 years?! You could forget bits in SOMI in that much time! Try 4 months! I play and complete the game first (first time, won the spit contest on the offchance that I accidentally spat when the wind blew) tried playing again 4 months later and couldn't figure out the wind bit, at all!

Oh, and the Dig, the planetaium bit annoyed me too, you had to get the moons in exactly the right place and for some reason, it wouldn't work for me!

The Tingler
07-27-2004, 01:24 PM
I have played it a few times since then, you know. Every time I cheated on the "If this is three..." puzzle and got through the Spitting Compo with luck.

That is... until now!

The Dig: The planetarium bit has me stuck right now in fact, and frankly the game's boring the arse off me. I can't be bothered to finish.

MI1, MI3 & Grim Fandango I barely remember my first playthrough. I think I used a walkthrough a lot, and I'm ashamed.

To be fair, I didn't actually own them and was merely borrowing them - I couldn't afford to take my time with them.

MI4 - I got lucky with the solution to the final boss. I beat Jojo Jnr with an incomplete set of moves somehow, so when it came to the final boss I had to Draw several times. I might still have been on it now if I had the full moves table.

DOTT - Hoagie and Bernard's stories I completed (almost) in full... but I COULD NOT work out how to get Laverne! I thought I'd just reach a point in the story when she'd appear. I'd forgotten about the damn tree, and I certainly didn't think it was the same Kumquat tree from the past (the one I never noticed).

Waemer
07-28-2004, 07:00 AM
I was 8 and 9 when I played through CMI. I didn't use a walkthrough. I got stuck so many times, countless times. I think I tried to call the help line, though...

The Tingler
07-28-2004, 11:33 AM
Wow, that IS a secret shame.

Bless you my son, for you are forgiven. You were young and reckless.

Has anyone else actually called the Hint Line?

Joshi
07-28-2004, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by The Tingler
DOTT - Hoagie and Bernard's stories I completed (almost) in full... but I COULD NOT work out how to get Laverne! I thought I'd just reach a point in the story when she'd appear. I'd forgotten about the damn tree, and I certainly didn't think it was the same Kumquat tree from the past (the one I never noticed).

That's my thing, though. Without knowing why, I solved that fairly early on. Basically, my logic with adventure games is, if the characters is trying to do something but isn't allowed to and tries to persist on it, I know it's something that has to be done, despite not knowing why it had to be done (it didn't strike me at all that by cutting the tree down I'd be freeing Laverne). But I kept getting that conversation line about what-his-name not being able to cut tree's down any more ('I bet you've lost it!') and I just thought 'Hey! For some reason, I've got to get that tree cut down!' and then I just went to it.

But I still stand by the fact that a good adventure game needs to get you into it for you to start solving these puzzels and not just have you solve a load of puzzels which have nothing to do with the story. I tried to play "Journey to the Center of the Earth" a few days ago. What a waste of time and money, about 10 minutes in, you wonder why you're tying to do what you're doing, and that's when I found the game to be boring and switched it off.

The Tingler
08-03-2004, 12:45 PM
That's usually what puts me off most non-LucasArts graphic adventures. Discworld Noir is probably the only one I can think of that I genuinely wanted to work all the way through without a guide.

Joshi
08-05-2004, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by The Tingler
That's usually what puts me off most non-LucasArts graphic adventures. Discworld Noir is probably the only one I can think of that I genuinely wanted to work all the way through without a guide.

One of the good things about that game is that it's totally replayable. I could go back to it now and not be able to complete it all the way through without a little thinking (as apose to other adventure games I've completed where I'm just remembering how I did it before)

According to some artical I read on the internet about adventure gam,es, Noir is actually slightly non-linear. I can see that in parts, but from what I read, there is actually a way of getting through the game without doing certain bits. I forget now which bits, but it was still quite intriguing

ThunderPeel2001
08-05-2004, 11:57 AM
Sam N Max:
This might be considered a "bad" one, but it bugged the hell out of me! :)

The other part of their office.

Wha...?

Yup. It never occured to me to walk to the right hand side of the screen! I just didn't think there was anything there, so I was stuck in the bloody fairground for ages because I didn't know Max's blacklight (UV) bulb was easily available if I'd just wandered over to the other side of the screen! Argh!

Monkey Island:
In 1991 I was 13 and Amiga Power had a nifty guide to Monkey Island in their magazine... It was only for Part One! I didn't use it all the way through, but when I got stuck I referred to it. I was so excited, I was expecting the game to end when I got the ship from Stan, but was secretly hoping it would keep going... to my joy it did! Great memories.

Monkey Island 2:
I can't remember specific puzzles I got stuck on, the "hand" puzzle was easy, though! I really enjoyed cracking that one. The "monkey wrench" gag was beyond evil and I'm sure there were other parts of the game that were VERY illogical and annoying too. They should have stuck will the "normal" and "hard" modes instead of including the crappy "easy" mode instead. Hindsight.

The Tingler
08-05-2004, 04:28 PM
In response to the Monkey Island Amiga Power walkthrough, that's pretty much what happened with me (just replace MI1 with MI2, and I don't think it was Amiga Power)... the only problem was, I only had Part Two!

Luckily a friend had Part One, so we met up and played Monkey Island 2 from beginning to end, laughing all the way.

Monkey Island: helping geeks socialize since 1991.

I can sympathise with the Sam & Max problem too - it was just the magnet room that got me instead.

cisco3434
08-13-2004, 07:04 AM
DOTT, 1993
Age: 5

I simply couldn't get control of Lavern. I tried almost every single possible action with Bernard and Hoagie, but couldn't figure out how to get Lavern down from her tree. After spending countless hours repeating the same clicks over and over again, I stopped playing the game...

Until a decade later when I found the CD packed away in a cardboard box with my 486. The game had bested me once, and it wouldn't do it again. Even after my years away from the game I still remembered how to get to my farthest point effortlessly. But this time I knew I would keep going. I tried knew dialogue combinations that I had never dreamed of before; I talked GW into chopping down that tree and I freed Lavern! After that it was only a matter of hours before I beat the game.

Has anyone been stuck longer than 10 years (give or take 6 months)?

thomas_a
08-29-2004, 09:14 PM
the secret of monkey island.

It took me AGES to get a hint that the (shrunken?) head helped in the monkey head! It was scary anyways.

Joshi
08-30-2004, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by thomas_a
the secret of monkey island.

It took me AGES to get a hint that the (shrunken?) head helped in the monkey head! It was scary anyways.

But, wasn't that the point in getting the head, the cannibles say that you need it to find lechuck, so it kinda seemed obvious, otherwise there was no point in getting the thing.

Meh, maybe you were young or something.

The Tingler
08-31-2004, 08:41 AM
Fret not, for all walkthrough sins and acts of "why the hell didn't I think of that?!?" is forgiven in the Stuck Confessional.

As for cisco, I wasn't quite stuck for ten years at that point... but I might've been if I hadn't discovered Hint Guides.

The thing with that puzzle was, I didn't even SEE it as a puzzle! I just thought that she'd be unlocked naturally at a certain point, so I didn't see the kumquat tree outside the window. I thought it was part of the background. So I never bothered trying to paint the tree, because I never took any notice of Washington going on about cherry trees. It never in registered in my mind as a puzzle.

D'oh.

Samnmax221
08-31-2004, 03:35 PM
As much as Lucas arts insists that you can't be stuck in one spot indefintly! But I can prove that it can happen. In Hit the Road if you don't have the bucket of fish when Max gets stuck in the dunk the beast cage there is no way to leave and the game is stuck there forever.

Skinkie
08-31-2004, 07:19 PM
I've left while he's in there. It didn't give me any troubles.

The Tingler
09-01-2004, 07:24 AM
Umm... yeah, just walk out, get in the car, go to World O' Fish, pick up the bucket of fish there, go back to Gator Golf, then carry on.

Is there something you need to confess to us, Samnmax221? :)

Joshi
09-01-2004, 08:15 AM
I'm not too sure, but in MOnkey Island 2, if you cut that guys wooden leg off before giving the woodsmith the broken paddle, is it possible to complete the game?

Rapp Scallion
09-02-2004, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by Joshi
I'm not too sure, but in MOnkey Island 2, if you cut that guys wooden leg off before giving the woodsmith the broken paddle, is it possible to complete the game?

Yeah, he comes back (but not while Guybrush's in the workshop). Go to another place and go back, and he's there.

Samnmax221
09-02-2004, 10:29 AM
Other then the monkey wrench puzzle I'v never gotten seruisly stuck if you leave out the fact that I did't know you could walk behind the bar in the 2nd year of grim fandango.

Joshi
09-02-2004, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by Samnmax221
Other then the monkey wrench puzzle I'v never gotten seruisly stuck if you leave out the fact that I did't know you could walk behind the bar in the 2nd year of grim fandango.

Did it take anyone else freakin ages to figure out how to get back to Manny's casino in the second year after falling in the water? I just didn't see the stairs behind the lift!

Skinkie
09-02-2004, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by Joshi
Did it take anyone else freakin ages to figure out how to get back to Manny's casino in the second year after falling in the water? I just didn't see the stairs behind the lift!

I had the same problem. I actually loaded my game before I fell off and tried to complete everything I could find at the casino before leaving cause I was afraid I wouldn't get another chance at it.

smokes o' pot
09-03-2004, 02:10 PM
I was stuck on the hand thing in MI2 for weeks. It just made it worse the fact that it was so easy. The shame?

Joshi
09-03-2004, 02:35 PM
It's always stupid stuff that's easy on reflection.

The lice go on the comb! It's all so simple now!

Taffy3Rock
09-04-2004, 01:04 PM
Bless me Father, for I have sinned.

You know, I've been watching this thread for a bit, debating whether to admit my secret shame...

The thing is, when I first played CMI, I think I must have been about 16, so I wimped out and played the "normal" (i.e. "easier") setting the first time round. (Thought it was fab, and blew through it in about 4 days solid)... But, when I came back to it a couple of years later, and attempted the Mega-Monkey version, I really got stumped on Blood Island. I'd managed to put that portrait of Goodsoup's grandfather over the door with the porthole, but for reasons unknown to myself, I really just couldn't get it into my head to cut the face out!

It was one of those puzzles that you sleep on, wake up in the morning and go, "Ohhhhhh"... :)

The Tingler
09-04-2004, 01:59 PM
Don't worry, there are plenty of times I've been totally stuck and utterly tempted to rush to the internet and find the answer. Usually if I just go away, do something else, and come back refreshed (without even thinking about it during the interval) I'll find what I'm looking for. Or I go to bed, think of something I didn't try, try it (no matter how ludicrous it seems) and find that it works.

Let's hope Psychonauts gets us just as stuck as we get on these classics.

Joshi
09-05-2004, 12:14 PM
It's Schafer baby, it's gotta stump us at some point. Neither me or my friend could figure out what to do on the boat in MI1 (that first graphic adventure I ever played by lucasarts).

ThunderPeel2001
09-05-2004, 05:53 PM
It's funny because the "boat" section was a bit of a breather for me in MI1. I just thought: "Cool, I can't miss any objects because there's only like four rooms!" :) Of course NOT being able to USE the cerial is a hideous sin... it was only through sheer desperation that I tried OPEN on the box. I mean you didn't have to OPEN the Grog-o-mints to use them, did you? Surely by "using" (i.e. "eating") the cerial you'd HAVE to open the box first...

Anyways, I digress.

All this talk about CMI has reminded me of something: I ALWAYS get stuck trying to get Yellow Beard to give me his gold tooth in Mega-Monkey mode! Even when I eventually figure it out, the next time I play it I totally forget and get stuck again!! Lol! :)

Still, it's a challenge ;)

elTee
09-05-2004, 06:38 PM
Okay, yes the spitting puzzle in MI2 was never, ever understood by me. I always assumed it was a bug, because I figured you needed to spit first, then drink the drink from the bar, and you'd spit further. So I just spent ages trying different combinations of "hooooook" "*swish*" etc until it worked. I only found out about the wind thing years and years later.

And also in MI2, I couldn't find the bucket for the swamp mud you use on Largo to get the bra. For months. Then I saw it silhouetted when I was outside Wally's, and I went mad.

And when me and my sister first played DOTT we were totally confused. We were trying "use X with Y" with everything, and sometimes things worked and sometimes they didn't. We didn't realise it was all part of a larger puzzle, and the free-roamability of it made it seem like nothing was connected. You can complete it in so many different combination of ways, we'd only make a significant breakthrough every month or so.

And yes, I cheated my way through The Dig too.

The Tingler
09-06-2004, 06:10 AM
Hooray!

How did you work out that you needed the swamp mud if you didn't have the bucket in the first place?

There are always puzzles (usually found in MI2) that are just "oh, let's try this" moments - more on a whim than actually thinking about puzzles. Which then come in handy later on. "Use glue on skeleton arm" in COMI is a fair example.

thomas_a
09-06-2004, 10:15 AM
In the Dig. that STUPID bat cave! I coudnt figure it out for DAYS! arrrr!

elTee
09-06-2004, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by The Tingler
How did you work out that you needed the swamp mud if you didn't have the bucket in the first place?

I remember the swamp mud was highlighted when I moved the mouse over it, so it had to be interactable. I'm sure Guybrush said something like "I can't pick it up with my hands" or something, so I knew I had to find a container.

Joshi
09-06-2004, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by LucasTones
I remember the swamp mud was highlighted when I moved the mouse over it, so it had to be interactable. I'm sure Guybrush said something like "I can't pick it up with my hands" or something, so I knew I had to find a container.

That happens with me, when someone says something like "I can't get that just by myself", or "without something else to help me" I'll try really hard to get it without knowing if I'd actually need it for something.

theholyidiot
09-06-2004, 04:40 PM
Taffy3Rock:
"The thing is, when I first played CMI, I think I must have been about 16,"

I'm only 16 now, and I played most LA adventures when they were first coming out. As such, blame most of my cheating on extremely youthful indiscretion. I am happy to report, however, that I have been completely hintbook-free since Grim, Playing through LA adventures, the Syberias, TLJ, and others as they were intended.

before that, however, I have a fairly sordid past...

It was quite long ago, so I cannot really remember any specific instances, but I do know that in every adventure game I played up to Grim, I cheated at least once. You see, I was under the impression that I had to complete them all in one sitting. I don't know why this was. I simply had a burning desire to advance the story as quickly as possible with out all of that time-consuming "thinking."

I am indeed sorry for what I have done, and have avoided playing any of those games for quite a while, in the hopes that I will forget them enough to truly enjoy them. I am theholyidiot, and I am a recovering cheataholic...

Alien426
09-06-2004, 10:59 PM
Now, doesn't that feel better? There you go, you may cry, it's OK.

The curious thing is, that playing through adventures again, I found that I keep getting stuck at the same puzzles. Solving them, no matter how long it took you, doesn't seem to be very memorable sometimes.

Rapp Scallion
09-07-2004, 08:06 AM
Lucky you. I have the problem that I remember too much. So I have to wait a LONG time before I can play the games I have played again, and even then I remember them. Well, there's some games where I don't remember everything (either because they're so big, or because they haven't made an impression on me), but the Monkey Island series is lost for me. The only thing I forget is the insults. The puzzles and the stories, and the music is stuck.

I wanna forget :(

The Tingler
09-07-2004, 08:16 AM
I had to wait about 8-9 years to forget Monkey Island 2 - but bear in mind I was 8-9 years old to begin with!

My memory's too good when it comes to adventures - for the simple reason that I play them over and over again. I still laugh at all the jokes, though. Especially Murray.

I'm glad that they keep bringing in new fans over the years, and it was actually the music of Monkey Island that got me into Mix N Mojo.com. Well, iMuse Island specifically, but that led here quickly.

WHY DID LUCASARTS CANCEL SAM & MAX 2?!!!!!? (breaks down in tears)

Bring on Psychonauts. (sniff) All hail Tim Schafer, and Ron - where the hell are you, man?

Joshi
09-07-2004, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by Rapp Scallion
Lucky you. I have the problem that I remember too much. So I have to wait a LONG time before I can play the games I have played again, and even then I remember them. Well, there's some games where I don't remember everything (either because they're so big, or because they haven't made an impression on me), but the Monkey Island series is lost for me. The only thing I forget is the insults. The puzzles and the stories, and the music is stuck.

I wanna forget :(

I can probably still get stuck on parts of The Dig, Sam n Max Hit the Road and Day of the Tentacle. Apart from that, the rest are a breeze after completing them once, so I'm almost like you in that respect.

Skinkie
09-07-2004, 07:24 PM
The only one I'll get stuck in replaying in the Dig. There's just too much for me to remember there. It's nuts.