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Udvarnoky
07-23-2004, 04:31 PM
Apparently I'm the official "check the company store every day guy."

Outlaws (http://www.lucasarts.com/companystore/outlaws/) has returned to availability again, if anyone cares. Still waiting for Ballblazer.

QueZTone
07-23-2004, 05:18 PM
unlucky for those who want it the boxed way though :)

and unlucky for those who are non-usa/canada ;p

Jake
07-23-2004, 05:38 PM
That means that the Outlaws soundtrack is once again available, as the full thing is included as audio tracks spread across Outlaws CDs 1 and 2. Great news, as the soundtrack and cutscenes far overshadow the dated gameplay.

Dr Edison 007
07-23-2004, 07:05 PM
Does this mean they'll put other classics back up for sale?

Probably not.

jp-30
07-23-2004, 10:01 PM
I'm sure it must have been the first directive of this guy;

LUCASARTS NAMES JOHN GEOGHEGAN VICE PRESIDENT, MARKETING
(http://www.lucasarts.com/press/releases/90.html)




...or not.

I'll write this one up later, if someone else doesn't beat me to it. Hopefully Jake will - he writes way better headlines than me.

Udvarnoky
07-23-2004, 10:51 PM
Errr...in other news, The Adventure Collection (http://www.lucasarts.com/companystore/adventure/) just popped up again a little while ago. Everybody just SHUT UP.

I tried to tell you guys that their taking down of the collection was no reason to jump to conclusions.

Udvarnoky
07-24-2004, 09:13 PM
Ah-hah! Grim Fandango is now out-of-print at Amazon! That means I win.

James Isaac
07-26-2004, 05:23 AM
I was told that their games go back on the shop for a quick time every 4 years, to stop the game becoming abandonware (that happens after 5 years of the company not selling the product). Is that right?

Udvarnoky
07-26-2004, 10:24 AM
No...

As far as I know, as long as LucasArts doesn't make the games freeware (something which will never happen), the copyright lasts beyond my lifetime. This is regardless of whether or not they decide to make the games available.

scabb
07-26-2004, 02:45 PM
Copyright for TV & Film (which I assume would be the same for games) expires 70 years from the end of the year of the first publication. So Grim Fandango (published 1998) will become public domain in 2069. That is, unless LucasArts choose to release it for free out of the goodness of their collective hearts.

Udvarnoky
07-26-2004, 06:51 PM
Didn't the public domain Supreme Court case some time ago extend corporation copyrights to 95 years?

scabb
07-27-2004, 11:02 AM
I'm not sure! I think 70 years is more than enough milking time for anything really. I hope they didn't extend it anyway, I'm absolutely dying to see a sequel to Citizen Kane, and publish my own Harry Potter novels.

I do remember Disney were a bit iffed at the copyright laws, in that people might be able to come along and steal their mascots. Which is rich, considering that Disney were built on public domain stories and characters.

Udvarnoky
07-29-2004, 11:50 PM
In further official LucasArts Company Store news, there is currently a $9.99 blowout sale going on (http://lucasarts.com/companystore/995_blowout.html). Wow. Too bad there's nothing of real interest, unless you'd like to purchase a mug with the logo of a ****ed up company on it.

And remember, you heard it from me - the official company store observation expert - first.

EDIT:

Someone who's not me should really try purchasing this (http://lucasarts.productorder.com/Getproductdetails.asp?itemno=01-082+01). One could also derive enjoyment by screwing around with the product numbers to find pages of old out-of-print items (like the Mac version of Loom (http://lucasarts.productorder.com/Getproductdetails.asp?itemno=01-002+01)) that were apparently overlooked when deleting stuff. It's also fun to take it a step further by editing the pages so that you can place OOP items in your shopping cart. I once did this with the Classic Adventures (http://lucasarts.productorder.com/checkavailbility.asp?itemno=01-008+01) pack when it was discontinued, but my order was unsurprisingly cancelled. Still, I've always though it'd be funny if all of a sudden there'd be orders placed for really old titles.

Then they'd all be sorry.

Dr Edison 007
07-30-2004, 07:34 AM
I hope they bring back that Classic Adventures thing, I need Zak bad.

Jake
07-30-2004, 12:40 PM
I'm sure if Grim is out of stock at Amazon it won't be for long. The jewel case version of Grim apparently does surprisingly good, consistant business on Amazon.

freddie
07-30-2004, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by Jake
I'm sure if Grim is out of stock at Amazon it won't be for long. The jewel case version of Grim apparently does surprisingly good, consistant business on Amazon. Guess the Grim soundtrack doesn't do well then.

Oh and I'm still waiting for my soundtrack Jake. Has it been 6 months yet?

ThunderPeel2001
08-05-2004, 11:19 AM
Actually I think the copyright is 70 years in the UK and 90 in the US (or something like that). I remember because I saw a US Sherlock Holmes site that couldn't post some of the stories because they were too recent, whereas a UK site had them all available for download.

bgbennyboy
08-05-2004, 02:00 PM
Yeah copyright is quite different in the UK and US, what Scabb posted is correct for the UK, but I think its much longer for the US.

Udvarnoky
08-05-2004, 05:55 PM
Okay, you're right. It was stupid of me to assume he was talking about the U.S. It's so ridiculous here, I'll bet there will eventually be no such thing as public domain.

Udvarnoky
12-03-2004, 12:54 PM
Further company store woes, as LucasArts finally stopped selling the Mega Monkey Bundle (which was a "limited" item available for a year now), as well as the CMI alternate item that contained Monkey Island Madness. I wonder how long it will be until we can officially purchase Monkey 1 and 2 again from the company.

If LucasArts made the bundle available to get rid of old stock, it would appear as though they've succeeded. I hope they restock eventually, even if it's once again the budget editions.

Udvarnoky
01-11-2005, 11:13 AM
Always eager to prove that this thread has a point, it's interesting (IT IS!) to know that SWON, Emperor's Tomb, and Armed and Dangerous are now considered "classics" (http://www.lucasarts.com/companystore/windows/classics.htm) at the company store.

Yikes. Armed & Dangerous? Still waiting for LucasArts to make good on its promise (as I like to consider it) on Monkey1 and 2 making their return at some point.

EDIT: Holy crap, I've also just noticed that Full Throttle is no more.

ThunderPeel2001
01-13-2005, 02:51 AM
Here's the current status of all their "classic" adventures...

- Maniac Mansion (1987) - NOT FOR SALE

- Zak McKraken (1988) - NOT FOR SALE

- Indiana Jones Last Crusade (1989) - NOT FOR SALE

- Monkey Island 1 (1990) - NOT FOR SALE

- Loom (1990) - NOT FOR SALE

- Monkey Island 2 (1991) - NOT FOR SALE

- Indiana Jones Fate of Atlantis (1992) - Adventure Pack (http://www.lucasarts.com/companystore/adventure/) Only ($29.95)

- Day Of the Tentacle (1993) - Adventure Pack (http://www.lucasarts.com/companystore/adventure/) Only ($29.95)

- Sam N Max (1993) - Adventure Pack (http://www.lucasarts.com/companystore/adventure/) Only ($29.95)

- Full Throttle (1995)- NOT FOR SALE

- Curse of Monkey Island (1997) - For sale! (http://www.lucasarts.com/companystore/monkey/) ($14.95)

- Grim Fandango (1998) - For sale! (http://www.lucasarts.com/companystore/grim/) ($14.95)

- Escape from Monkey Island (2000) - For sale! (http://www.lucasarts.com/companystore/monkey4/) ($14.95) + Mac Version available

- Sam N Max 2 (2004) - :(

masterdebator
01-14-2005, 11:38 AM
Weren't there two versions of Sam & max and Day of the Tentacle? The one with the eight floppies, and the one on CD. If I have my information correct, the floppies only had talking during the cutscenes, but the CD's had talking the entire game. So if this assumtion is true, which version would be available in the adventure pack?

Udvarnoky
01-14-2005, 02:12 PM
The Adventure Collection has the CD-talkie versions of all three games.

FOA had a floppy edition too, I think what was different about that game was that the talkie version wasn't considered until after the floppy version (or so I've heard).

Yeah, the Adventure Collection is a sweet little package, but it comes with nothing in the way of paper extras and sucks if you already have one or two of the games. Definitely worth the purchase, though, just have SCUMMVM ready.

MrManager
01-14-2005, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Udvarnoky
FOA had a floppy edition too, I think what was different about that game was that the talkie version wasn't considered until after the floppy version (or so I've heard).

That is pretty much correct. I mean, I'm sure it was considered before, but it was released a while after.

itchythesamurai
01-15-2005, 10:22 AM
Why would they sell Maniac Mansion again? Isn't it advertised as being included in Day of the Tentacle?

Udvarnoky
01-15-2005, 10:36 AM
It is, but the version included within DOTT is the original PC port, which sported graphics similar to the original C64/Apple versions. In other words, they suck. An "Enhanced" version of Maniac Mansion was made with updated graphics, but LucasArts effectively discontinued that version when they stopped selling the Classic Adventures pack.

masterdebator
01-21-2005, 06:22 AM
The best versions I have found are the FM-Towns versions.

In almost every game that was an FM-Towns game, the graphics are in 256 color, and well worth the years spent tracking them down.

Udvarnoky
04-15-2005, 07:29 PM
Damn, now they've discontinued the Adventure Collection (not to mention Outlaws and, very weirdly, Armed and Dangerous), leaving CMI, EMI, and Grim as the only adventures available from them. Ouch.

If Lucasarts' rights to Sam & Max expire in May, could that be a reason for getting rid of the adventure collection?

Jake
04-15-2005, 09:19 PM
I think the "rights" they have currently are a license to use the characters to make a new game. I don't think it alters their ability to keep selling an old one.

Udvarnoky
12-07-2005, 12:46 PM
Grim Fandango has left the building.http://www.lucasarts.com/meta/registration/img/login/lec_reglogo.gif

Are CMI and EMI's days numbered?

90SK
12-09-2005, 11:18 PM
Grim before Curse? Wow. I guess nothing is safe anymore. *:fist: LucasArts*

Udvarnoky
12-14-2005, 11:47 AM
And it's back!