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Darth Groovy
07-24-2004, 04:37 PM
Don't act surprised...:rolleyes:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/catwoman/

acdcfanbill
07-24-2004, 04:47 PM
well i cant say im suprised, but this line worries me...
"If you like "Van Helsing" and "The Punisher," then you'll enjoy this. Catwoman is worth seeing for its camp value and is better than it has any right to be."

i liked the punisher, tho in parts it wasnt that great, and van helsing, that was a laugh a minute :D

legameboy
07-24-2004, 04:51 PM
Yah! :D

Darth Groovy
07-24-2004, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by acdcfanbill
well i cant say im suprised, but this line worries me...


i liked the punisher, tho in parts it wasnt that great, and van helsing, that was a laugh a minute :D

I liked The Punisher too billeh. I think people were expecting a super-hero movie, but The Punisher is not a superhero, but more of a vigilante. The movie seemed like a gangster movie to me more than anything, but I really did like it. I don't think it was over the top enough for audiences, and probably pailed in comparison to other summer releases due to it's lack of bullet-time stunts/effects or cgi.

Van Helsing was definitely funny, but I never took it seriously. It's more like a video game type movie, and you either love it, or hate it. The guy who played Dracula really bugged me, I liked his costume, but hated his acting, and his cheesy Transylvanian accent. Nobody ever played Dracula better than Gary Oldman in Bram Stoker's Dracual, NOBODY! So for that reason, I had a hard time with it. Either way, i'll probably get the DVD when it comes out. I liked it enough to buy it. :D

Pie™
07-24-2004, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
Nobody ever played Dracula better than Gary Oldman in Bram Stoker's Dracual, NOBODY! So for that reason, I had a hard time with it. Not even mr Lugosi? :p

Oh, and Catwoman, pssh, it'll be cheaper to rent a porn video :p

manoman81
07-24-2004, 05:38 PM
Yeah I heard that Catwoman sux. I knew it would when I saw the trailer...As hot as Halle Berry is, Michelle Pfifer played Catwoman better than anyone else would be able to IMHO. I'm not going to waste my $8 to see in the theater or my $2.50 to rent it when it comes to video...

Kain
07-24-2004, 05:40 PM
It isn't a surprise that Catwoman tanked, but RottenTomatoes is full of idiots.


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ET Warrior
07-24-2004, 06:37 PM
I'm so surprised. (http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2004-07-21) :dozey:

manoman81
07-24-2004, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by ET Warrior
I'm so surprised. (http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2004-07-21) :dozey:

lol I liked that! :D

acdcfanbill
07-24-2004, 08:11 PM
ROFL!

http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_1025865.html?menu=news.celebrities

oh man, that puts a whole new take on the movie, brings to mind a certian scene in spaceballs...

obi
07-24-2004, 08:33 PM
Raise your hand if you saw that coming, everybody.

:)


*raises both hands*

Alegis
07-24-2004, 09:36 PM
"Putting Halle Berry in a tight leather suit is a good idea. The rest of the movie is not."
:D

*raises hand*

Darth Groovy
07-24-2004, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by Kain
It isn't a surprise that Catwoman tanked, but RottenTomatoes is full of idiots.


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Yes, have to agree, rotten tomatoes IS full of idiots. (they were wrong about The Punisher, AND Troy), however the critics on Rotten Tomatoes don't really work for the website, it merely links to very high profile newspaper and magazine critics, takes all of thier reviews and gives you an overall percentage, which is about the easiest way to figure out what people are saying about a particular movie.

Oh, and Catwoman, pssh, it'll be cheaper to rent a porn video

It would be even cheaper to go to one of those cheesy websites where geeks super impose famous actresses' faces over smut images.

BongoBob
07-24-2004, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by ET Warrior
I'm so surprised. (http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2004-07-21) :dozey:

YAY! CAD! Ctrl-Alt-Del pwns any other comic, real or web.

Originally posted by acdcfanbill
ROFL!

http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_1025865.html?menu=news.celebrities

oh man, that puts a whole new take on the movie, brings to mind a certian scene in spaceballs...

ROFLMFAO!

Poor Astro ;)

IG-64
07-24-2004, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by BongoBob
Poor Astro ;)

Boom-Boom's >_>



:xp:

Astrotoy7
07-24-2004, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by BongoBob
Poor Astro ;)

damn you skim readers !

Bongo, you obviously didnt read that thread properly ! I couldnt have cared less about the movie and said that I might ever see it if its a cheap rental... :p

(I only really started that thread to do a little send up of the 'Blade trailer online thread' which if you've read it was quite memorable for myself in particular....)

I dont like superhero movies and even Halle Berry in leathers couldnt save that poor flick..... :p

keep bangin away Bongo :p

mtfbwya

RpTheHotrod
07-25-2004, 02:20 AM
http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/images/comics/20040716.jpg

ET Warrior
07-25-2004, 02:39 AM
I already posted that one in the original Catowman Thread RP :xp:

Seph
07-25-2004, 05:17 AM
^^
We've ALL seen this image too many times, give it a rest eh?

_Groovy

Sam Fisher
07-25-2004, 12:06 PM
Hmm.. well, I've got a theater 3 blocks from me... so I might go see it anyways.... only 2 movies playing there anyways... I, Robot and Catwoman.

ET Warrior
07-25-2004, 12:59 PM
@seph: That was already posted in the other catwoman thread too :p

Seph
07-25-2004, 06:03 PM
DAAAAAARN YOUUUUUUUUUU ETTTTTTTTTTTT, oh really? ok*wanders off*

Darklighter
07-25-2004, 08:03 PM
You don't need to read a bunch of idiot reviewers, nor even see the film to work out that Catwoman is rubbish. I was laughing my ass off when the first trailer was released, spouting how appalling it was going to be...and voila! Future foretold :D

Mike Windu
07-25-2004, 11:10 PM
Yeah...What Darky said.


I want to see it, just to laugh at it. Just like I have a strong urge to go rent Gigli and sit through it...

Kain
07-26-2004, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by Mike Windu
I want to see it, just to laugh at it. Just like I have a strong urge to go rent Gigli and sit through it...

The horror...the horror...THE HORROR!!! Why would you waste your money on EITHER of those...abominations?! BLASPHEMER!!

Edit: I just let out a bomb bigger than Gigli...HAHAHAHA!! It kinda stinks...like Catwoman...and Gigli. Ew.


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txa1265
07-27-2004, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
Nobody ever played Dracula better than Gary Oldman in Bram Stoker's Dracual, NOBODY! Oh that is a sad, sad commentary on the youth of today.

I liked Oldman in Dracula, he was th ebest part of an otherwise mediocre movie.

But to even *compare* that to Christopher Lee in the 60's, or the one true Draculatm that is Bela Lagosi ... sad.

But not as sad as Catwoman.

Mike

Astrotoy7
07-27-2004, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by txa1265
Oh that is a sad, sad commentary on the youth of today.

I liked Oldman in Dracula, he was th ebest part of an otherwise mediocre movie.

But to even *compare* that to Christopher Lee in the 60's, or the one true Draculatm that is Bela Lagosi ... sad.

But not as sad as Catwoman.

Mike

aw c'mon mike, classic as they may be, Lee's or Lugosi's Dracula performances were bordering on camp in retrospect. He he he , you might as well have added 'gramps' from The Munsters in there.... :D

Oldman's count is far closer to the character in Stoker's remarkable book.... There is still great scope for a wonderful movie to be made of this book, Coppola had a good try, but was let down with bad actors *cough*Keanu*cough* :p

mtfbwya

toms
07-27-2004, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Chase Windu
This was a good review at rotten tomatoes.
WTF is the lady doing comparing it to Van Helsing? That movie kicked major @$$. I loved it.

The Punisher was complete and utter crappola and probably still shouldn't be compared to Catwoman because Catwoman looks like it gives crap a bad name.

Even the 10% "good" reviews don;t say things that make me want to watch it. Van Helsing was the worst film i have seen in years (honestly). Just dire. I was looking foreward to it too as i quite liked the mummy and wolverine.

Can't tell about the punisher, as i don't think it is even going to get a cinematic release over here. But a lot of the reviews i read said the dolph lundgren one was better (yay dolph! :D ) and the whole thing sounded like an 80s steven segal movie (out for justice?)

The thing is, they basically used a script-by-committee and a mtv director to make a film that they knew would suck, but relied on the overactive hormones of teenage boys to get people to go.
That costume isn't actually sexy, it looks silly and cheap and tarty. Halle berry looks gorgeous, but her personality (earnest complete drip) is so dull that she is in no way sexy, and totally miscast for this role. Pfieffer (and even earther kitt) were cool and sexy. This just comes off as cheap and tacky.

txa1265
07-27-2004, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
aw c'mon mike, classic as they may be, Lee's or Lugosi's Dracula performances were bordering on camp in retrospect.
Bordering on camp? Bordering? Have you never seen "Abbot & Costello Meel Frankenstein"?!? How they don't even have to change character to blend with the comedy?

Originally posted by Astrotoy7
you might as well have added 'gramps' from The Munsters in there.... :D No, that's comedy, very different from over-the-top camp.

Originally posted by Astrotoy7
Oldman's count is far closer to the character in Stoker's remarkable book.... There is still great scope for a wonderful movie to be made of this book, Coppola had a good try, but was let down with bad actors *cough*Keanu*cough* :p Perhaps. But while it may be arguable that Oldman played a better classic Dracula, the original is better in pretty much every way from any remake, IMO.

Mike

Darth Groovy
07-27-2004, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
aw c'mon mike, classic as they may be, Lee's or Lugosi's Dracula performances were bordering on camp in retrospect. He he he , you might as well have added 'gramps' from The Munsters in there.... :D

Oldman's count is far closer to the character in Stoker's remarkable book.... There is still great scope for a wonderful movie to be made of this book, Coppola had a good try, but was let down with bad actors *cough*Keanu*cough* :p

mtfbwya

Oh GAWD yes! Thanks for pointing out the obvious there. Keanu, and Winnona Ryder were HORRIBLE in what could have been an otherwise AMAZING film. I still love the film, but if I had to redo it, neither of those two people would have been involved.

And yes, i've seen versions of Dracula starring Christopher Lee, legend of the Hammer Horror classics. The Bela Lagousi version was made in a time where it was quite easy to scare people, and THAT particular movie was not scary at all, in fact it was kind of corny and boring.

Now F.W. Murnau's Nosferatu, THAT is a scary movie!

CapNColostomy
07-27-2004, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
Now F.W. Murnau's Nosferatu, THAT is a scary movie!

Werd. "Youth of today", indeed.

Prime
07-27-2004, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by acdcfanbill
brings to mind a certian scene in spaceballs... "You idiots! These are not them! You've captured their stunt doubles!!!!!!" :D

txa1265
07-27-2004, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
Now F.W. Murnau's Nosferatu, THAT is a scary movie! Oh, that is just one of my faves ... who needs words to scare the sh*t out of you ...

Mike

Darth Groovy
07-28-2004, 02:45 AM
Originally posted by txa1265
Oh, that is just one of my faves ... who needs words to scare the sh*t out of you ...

Mike

Watch a movie called "Shadow Of The Vampire", THEN watch Nosferatu! Makes it even scarier! :eek:

Kain
07-28-2004, 02:51 AM
Personally, silence speaks volume. I'm 19 and I LOVE Nosferatu. Then again, the only vampire movies I have a problem with are:
1: Dracula 2000. I just didn't like it.
2: Queen of the Damned. Jonathan Davis shoulda been Lestat. Trent Reznor would have been the perfect Lestat though.

And screw anyone who thinks Interview With A Vampire was boring.


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Darth Groovy
07-28-2004, 03:56 AM
Originally posted by Kain
Personally, silence speaks volume. I'm 19 and I LOVE Nosferatu. Then again, the only vampire movies I have a problem with are:
1: Dracula 2000. I just didn't like it.
2: Queen of the Damned. Jonathan Davis shoulda been Lestat. Trent Reznor would have been the perfect Lestat though.

And screw anyone who thinks Interview With A Vampire was boring.


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Dracula 2000 was just positively dreadful. Can't speak for Queen of the Damned, but then again I did not watch it for two reasons. 1. Everyone I know says it is terrible. 2. Aaliyah's last movie?! It is sad when an artist's last project has to suck so bad. Unlike The Crow, which was Brandon Lee's swan song, Queen of the Damned is not what Aaliyah should be noted for, but rather her music. I am reminded how unfortunate it was that Raul Julia's last film was in fact "Street Fighter".

Seriously though Kain, I think you would love "Shadow Of The Vampire". It is VERY different, not quite your typical horror movie, but definitely scary and makes you think alot about the premise of vampires. If you like Nosferatu, it is almost a companion piece to that film. "Shadow Of The Vampire" is based on the filming of "Nosferatu". I will tell you nothing more, because I will spoil everything. Have a look at it, and let me know what you think.;)http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005B6L0.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

toms
07-28-2004, 10:00 AM
Dracula (the oldman one) was interesting, but not at all scary. I don't think it was even supposed to be. Olman was ok i guess (better than keanu, thats for sure) but he bacically played dracula as the same as most of his villain roles, so it hardly stood out.

Kieffer sutherland in the lost boys was the best vamp :D

I have to say that the only really good dracula is the book. I thought the book was SOO much more interesting than any of the films i have seen. I especially liked the whole jonathan harker trapped in the castle bit.

Pie™
07-28-2004, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by Kain
And screw anyone who thinks Interview With A Vampire was boring. It's pretty good, but I think Kirsten Dunst ruins much of it :\

Kain
07-28-2004, 11:57 AM
Everytime I tried to watch Shadow of the Vampire, I've ended up having to leave. It sucks!


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