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Cosmos Jack
08-07-2004, 02:17 AM
I ran into a JK Honorz Freak while on a DOOM 3 server tonight and it was very sad. I was enjoying the senseless, endless carnage, and lawless murder then I here it. "Stop Camping" This wasn't directed at me but I pounced on it as fast as I could.

Here is the conversation...............................
ME "He can camp if he want's it's just a game play."

JKplayer "You idiot I was typing!"

ME " It's just a game it doesn't matter if you die just play the game."

JKplayer "It doesn't matter if you die?"

JKplayer " You idiot you lamed me!"

"JKplayer disconnected"

I have played a lot of games online fore a few years now and the only place I here that much crying all from one person is JK games.

Maybe it's just me, but I like the idea of being able to play a FFA game and not here anything but, stuff like "WOW that was a good shot dude I ran right into that." Instead of "You shot me in the back you FN camping lamer."

Good thing is Doom has pretty high specs and a lot of the little kiddies that play JK might not have much fun playing Doom, because their parents might not dish out the money for a high end system or vid card. I can though. :D

TK-8252
08-07-2004, 02:32 AM
Just hope that they don't start making admin mods for Doom 3. It'll be Doom+ with the amAbuse commands before you know it.

Let's just hope it doesn't carry into Star Wars Battlefront too. *Sigh* :(

mediablitz
08-07-2004, 03:36 AM
uh they won't. D3 is a serious game. JKA is a newbie rpg fest. Sqrew this game, i'm giving up on it.

Cosmos Jack
08-07-2004, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by TK-8252
Just hope that they don't start making admin mods for Doom 3. It'll be Doom+ with the amAbuse commands before you know it. Don't even joke about that....:mad:

Originally posted by TK-8252
Let's just hope it doesn't carry into Star Wars Battlefront too. *Sigh* :( It doesn't have Jedi so there is still hope. :D

Originally posted by AnalogSaint
uh they won't. D3 is a serious game. JKA is a newbie rpg fest. Sqrew this game, i'm giving up on it. It's not that JKA isn't a serious game. It's that the majority of people playing it aren't serious gamers. They are along the same lines as little girls playing house with dolls.

I tried to RP for a minute one time. I ended up dropping a Thermal Detonator at someone's feet and getting banned. I just couldn't help myself. ;) I would sacrifice 30 min of boredom for a few seconds of fun.

FiEND_138
08-07-2004, 04:57 AM
Originally posted by TK-8252
Let's just hope it doesn't carry into Star Wars Battlefront too. *Sigh*

That was the 1st thought that popped into my head as reading this thread.

Think I'll give it a few weeks before I pick up Battlefront & see what kind of Honourz horror stories infect that game.

txa1265
08-07-2004, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by Cosmos Jack
I have played a lot of games online fore a few years now and the only place I here that much crying all from one person is JK games.

Maybe it's just me, but I like the idea of being able to play a FFA game and not here anything but, stuff like "WOW that was a good shot dude I ran right into that." Instead of "You shot me in the back you FN camping lamer." What are you kidding me?!?!?

JKII did not invent whining ... not nearly. Nor does it hold the keys to the whining kingdom. I play very little MP, but run into it on *every* game I've ever played - RtCW, MohAA, SoFII, CoD, etc, etc etc ...

And let me use my 'force insight' to predict ... it will be in Battle front. And Quake IV, and Battlefield 2, and ...

Mike

Prime
08-07-2004, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by AnalogSaint
Sqrew this game, i'm giving up on it. Bye.

Originally posted by txa1265
And let me use my 'force insight' to predict ... it will be in Battle front. True enough, but let's just hope that whining and "honourz" aren't encouraged by mods that actually encourage and enforce such things... :)

Ace-_Ventura
08-07-2004, 11:11 AM
that will be fun
"OMG U KILLED ME I WAS WITH WEAPONS DOWN, ONLY FLASHLIGHT U LAMMER"

Master William
08-07-2004, 12:08 PM
hmm, is doom 3 out? ah well, the game requires a NASA computer to run anyway, so most 'honourful' players won't get to play Doom 3...

TK-8252
08-07-2004, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by Cosmos Jack
It doesn't have Jedi so there is still hope. :D

I know that some moron is going to make Jedi a playable class. There's already Jedi NPCs, so it shouldn't be that hard. :(

Mex
08-07-2004, 12:58 PM
I can imagine it "OMG U NOOB FLASHLIGHT = PEACE HONOR U NOOB"

:indif: But I'll never let that happen in Doom 3! Never!

PR-0927
08-07-2004, 03:02 PM
Yeah...hmm...ideas...to...start...anti-honor, pro-laming...movement...for Star Wars: Battlefront.

:fett:

Cosmos Jack
08-07-2004, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by txa1265
What are you kidding me?!?!?

JKII did not invent whining ... Maybe not, but it took it to a hole new level. Where in RtCW, MohAA, SoFII, CoD, ect. ect. ect. Do you see a group of people standing around doing emotes not to mention constantly kicking and banning people for doing anything other then that? Please tell what one of these games "other then JK" people do that in so I can go see it.:rolleyes:

Spawn killing is the biggest most common peeve in any game. JK broke way past that. Killing of any kind isn't tolerated.

Originally posted by txa1265
And let me use my 'force insight' to predict ... it will be in Battle front. And Quake IV, and Battlefield 2, and ... Maybe so, but don't do us any favors by branging it there.

Alegis
08-07-2004, 05:34 PM
a game like doom3 which is scary like hell aint ever gonna be touched by honour/admin abuse crap. well maybe the latter, but of course not as frequent. This stuff is unique to JK series, AMEN

Master William
08-07-2004, 08:03 PM
I know how the diciples of Honourz think, I used to be one of them... they won't turn Battlefront into a 'no laming' game, trust me

Alegis
08-07-2004, 08:13 PM
yeah because it all statred with the saber down. Sure some may complain in some games of chatkilling (a bit rare though) but unless theres a saberdown fucntion, this aint happening at all elsewhere, ever.

Ace-_Ventura
08-07-2004, 08:36 PM
most games don't even have that symbol of chat so, no one cares about chatkill

txa1265
08-08-2004, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by Cosmos Jack
Maybe so, but don't do us any favors by branging it there. Trust me ... I love RPG's - and take role-playing in FPS SP very seriously. *BUT*, in MP I take killing using strategy and tactics and whatever skills I have very seriously. That is why I loved Jedi Master and Holo FFA in JKII - constant action, no letting up ... saber down = dead.

Mike

Rumor
08-08-2004, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by Alegis Gensan
a game like doom3 which is scary like hell aint ever gonna be touched by honour/admin abuse crap. well maybe the latter, but of course not as frequent. This stuff is unique to JK series, AMEN

Alegis don't be stupid. the jk series didn't create anything. It was already there. The difference is the concentration.

The funny thing about doom 3, is that it was designed for people to be able to camp and hide in the darkness.

As for people whining about lamers, why do you think a chat icon was added to quake 3? People have been whining about those things for a long long time. Hell, go in a UT2004 Chaos UT2 melee duel server, and start whoring the powerups and you'll have the entire server up in arms, and just like in jk, they can't do **** about it because they suck at the game.

Amidala from Chop Shop
08-08-2004, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by Alegis Gensan
yeah because it all statred with the saber down. Sure some may complain in some games of chatkilling (a bit rare though) but unless theres a saberdown fucntion, this aint happening at all elsewhere, ever.

Remember this thread (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1537638&#post1537638) from a couple of months ago when I said typing out chat was stupid (and led to crying and sobbing about "chatkilling"), and that voice chat was the wave of the future?


Star Wars Battlefront will be optimized for PS2 online, Xbox Live and PC online. Console gamers will be able to battle against 16 players over the Internet or 32 players connected via LAN. PC gamers will be able to battle against 32 players over the Internet or 64 via a LAN. The game will also support voice chat through compatible headsets for the PS2 and Xbox console systems as well as PC.


All of you who argued with me (and you know who you are), please form a single line so you can all come up and kiss my er, uh....ring.

Kurgan
08-08-2004, 09:40 PM
Doom3 has been out barely a week. It's not very multiplayer focused, but given sufficient time it will have its share of whiners, losers and exploiters.

It's human nature and it's the internet, so this kind of thing is inevitable. The only thing is to what level will they go to ruin it for everyone else they can...

Syzerian
08-09-2004, 05:34 AM
It all comes down to the fact that people just dont like losing

Kurgan
08-11-2004, 08:11 AM
Very true. So they make up rules to limit the ability of them to lose. But they still lose, so they continue to whine.

"I WASN'T READY!!"

"THE SERVER WAS LAGGIN!"

"YOU WERE CHEATING SOMEHOW!!!"

"YOU ARE A RICH LPB #@$#$ WITH YOUR BETER COMPUTAR & CONNEXION!!!"

"YOU WERE RUDE WHEN YOU KILLED ME SO THEREFORE IT DOESN'T COUNT,START OVER!!!"

"THAT WEAPON IS TOOO POWERFUL, DON'T USE IT ANYMORE (but I may still use it)!!!"

Master William
08-11-2004, 11:27 AM
Exactly! I entered a RPG server on JA a few days ago and had people vote kicking me just because my "Sith Cult" (it's roleplaying after all) was owning the server, so basically I was following the rules but had people hating me because I was still more powerful and had them lose all the time.

Tsk :(

Cosmos Jack
08-11-2004, 06:43 PM
I have said it before and I will say it again. We need a UBER ANTI ADMIN MOD.

:o

Rumor
08-12-2004, 01:35 AM
BOFH is already modding on doom 3, unfortunately.

BloodRiot
08-13-2004, 10:28 AM
Believe me every game has it's whinners... take something that happened to me on America's Army a few weeks ago.

To anyone that doesn't know:

America's Army needs a login in order to play... it keeps tabs on your score and HONOR (dont stop reading... it's not the same thing as in JK)... Honor in America's army is more like a rank (that can also be exploited mind you) basically for every round you play you earn points, and when your total points reaches a certain number... you are promoted. This obviously isn't the fairest way to do since some gamers has jobs and other RL commitments as oppsoed to younger crowds that have tons of free time. So it's normal that certain people have more honor than other without necessarilly playing better.

Honor starts out as 10 and can go as high as 100 or so im told... my current honor is 21... not cuz i suck at it (im no pro either that's for sure) but cuz i dont spend alot of time on it to build up my points.

On one of the rounds... I killed an enemy player and he was pretty pissed at me and I STILL dunno why. AFAIK i didn't even kill him in any sort of impossible or unlikely way... it's not like he had only an inch exposed and covered in smoke and my only shot hit him... no... i just saw him and killed him. His honor was like 50 or so and he was acusing me of using cheats and hacks (punkbuster was on as it was an officical server).

First... I'm a 3d modeler and animator... im no coder... i know NOTHING about hacks... i dunno where to get them... i dunno how to use them...and i will must surelly not risk cheats or hackseven if i knew them on a punkbuster using official server, risking loosing all my account info and facing ban... no way.. no how... i enjoy playing that game too much thank you.

Still he went on... no insisting i was using hacks cuz... (get this)... there was no way i could be better than him since my honor was so low compared to his.

Somehow he "liked" me to acuse me of that... cuz he died every round and always cursed his fate. always a line upon his death... like "NO WAY!!!" or "Goddamn Lag (this one is typical...even when it's true)!!!"

Whinners are everywhere... and to be honest... the only thing you can do about it is keep on fragging that guy until A: he quits, B: is kicked/Banned cuz of the whinning swearing... or C: keeps it up but really accomplishes nothing.

AA does have a voting system... but he did not make use of it... either way i think most people on that server didn't like his attitude.

They are everywhere.... and I mean EVERYWHERE... my bro is kind of a UT pro... he get's this sort of thing everyday... the sore loser.

But i also MUST admit... JK games take this CR@P to a whole new dimension. I can't believe I was away from these forums for mounths... and I find that things just didn't change. Honor freaks are still rampant... and serious players.. good or not... suffer from it. It's sad... really sad. Like i said..they are everywhere... but on most games they are bearable and dont have tools that support them.

I think serious players really owe something to people like the Kurgan and Amidala for their great servers where people can play the game as it was meant to be played.

Sorry for the novel i jsut rote here.. but it's been a while since i was here so i had to catch up :D

Cheers everyone.

FallenAngel
08-26-2004, 04:21 AM
I remember in ForceMod3 someone was like "HEY FA TRY A NEW WEAPONZ NOOB" after I was winning the round. I said no, and the insults were pooring in. Yet he was still on a jetpack using pistols (not that I care). He said I needed more "variety." Please.

"OMG TEH EMPORERZ LIGHTNINGZ SPAMMOR!11!"

Darth Groovy
08-26-2004, 07:49 AM
Originally posted by Master William
hmm, is doom 3 out? ah well, the game requires a NASA computer to run anyway, so most 'honourful' players won't get to play Doom 3...


HEHEHE!!!

No crap! That's why i'm waiting on the XBOX version. ;)

Sabretooth
08-26-2004, 08:38 AM
I hate honorz, just slaughter, kill and murder, in a violent game. :cool:

If anyone talks about honor crap, I just frag him. Doesn't matter if I'm banned, I'll be banned in honour!

Wait. I don't get it.

What?

Doomie
08-26-2004, 08:42 AM
You're right, true honour is dieing on the field of battle. I admit, there are always certain rules you must follow, but this is pretty rediculous.

For example, in real life, it's stupid to kill someone. In, say, Doom 3, it's the entire point of the game, so if you make rules wich state that people aren't allowed to kill 75% of the time, you are being stupid, trying to bring real life over to the game, so to speak. If you just walk around, hide, kill and walk around some more, you'll have more fun then when you start whining over rules. They want to play a fun game? Then play it the way it's meant to be played!

Astrotoy7
08-26-2004, 08:58 AM
what the...... kurgan, amidala..... the words "lamer, honorz and JKA"..... OMFG !! Dont turn our precious swamp into the JA forumz plz :( :p

*has terrible 2002-2003 flashbacks* :p

mtfbwya

Sabretooth
08-26-2004, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by Doomgiver
For example, in real life, it's stupid to kill someone.

It is?
*drops guns*

Also, this is a game, not a typing ground. If those suckers like typing, they can chat rather than play or talk over mics. In a game, the chief idea is to have fun, by obeying the rules. If you go about making rules of your own, you may not have the fun as was intended. (Doesn't apply for mods and add-ons)

RoxStar
08-26-2004, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by TK-8252
Just hope that they don't start making admin mods for Doom 3. It'll be Doom+ with the amAbuse commands before you know it.

Let's just hope it doesn't carry into Star Wars Battlefront too. *Sigh* :(

Thats exactly what I'm fearing.

But I was on some server where there were 4 members of the Npo Clan. They were just chatting with each other most of the time and if you killed them they weren't gonna get all pissed. It was an easy way to rack up points I'll admit but if you wanna chat do it in a chat room not a game where you're sucking Server Resources.

Master_Keralys
08-26-2004, 08:26 PM
There are whiners everywhere. I kill them. I laugh. I kill them again. I play HALO with my friends all the time. We were like that for a (very) little period in time. Then we realized it was stupid to whine. Now, we all just say, "Crap! Dude, that was an awesome shot!" But you don't see a lot of that. People would rather say that you're cheating or something than just honestly admit that you got the best of them. Which is kind of funny... the way you improve the most in these games is by getting your butt kicked until you figure out how to stop getting your butt kicked.

Play the games on the hardest settings, find the hardest servers, etc. and get good enough to win. Don't whine in the meantime. And definitely don't tell everyone else that they have to abide by your own foolish conception of "honor" - they're FPS's for Pete's sake, not some real life situation. You want that kind of a thing, go play a MMORPG, where the rules are more the way they want.

[/endrant]

Darth Groovy
08-26-2004, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by Sabretooth
It is?
*drops guns*

Also, this is a game, not a typing ground. If those suckers like typing, they can chat rather than play or talk over mics. In a game, the chief idea is to have fun, by obeying the rules. If you go about making rules of your own, you may not have the fun as was intended. (Doesn't apply for mods and add-ons)

I remember slicing off our very own Tyrion's head in such a situation on a JA game. I got alot of backlash for that, but yeah.....it twas fun! :p

It's all good though, because I got mine when acdcfanbill carved me a new one in the next game. You don't wanna mess with that guy....he be dangerous! We always have an understanding that it is JUST a game, meant for fun, and we've always been good freinds for it.

acdcfanbill also owned my ass in AVP2....lol!

wassup
08-26-2004, 11:24 PM
/disconnect