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Helter
08-08-2004, 05:48 PM
My first retexturing. I thought I had becom a modder, but after some research I discovered I have become a retexturer.:rolleyes:

Some pics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_23.jpg

Vampire Eyes

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_26.jpg

Up-close. I don't know why the tattoo looks like its bleeding.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_15.jpg

Eyes are glayzed over

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_11.jpg

Many thanks to you modders for inspiration.
A Special thank you to PrtyLizardJedi. I follwed his/her tutorial and I learned to use KT and Photoshop.


edit: Download available at pcgamemods.com

http://www.pcgamemods.com/6615/

Hope you enjoy it.

Achilles
08-08-2004, 05:56 PM
Looks pretty good! I can't see the first picture too well, but it looks like something I would actually use (sorry Colja, looks like you've got some competition).

Just out of curiosity, what does it look like with a darker red for the tattoo?

Can't wait to download it.

Helter
08-08-2004, 07:29 PM
I've just done some research and found out what I did is a re-color. :rolleyes:

Still, I try.

I just recolored the tattoo using the same red, but a different photoshop mode.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_27.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_28.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_29.jpg

Competition for Colja? I think not!:D

Achilles
08-08-2004, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by Helter
I just recolored the tattoo using the same red, but a different photoshop mode.


I was thinking darker instead of brighter. That's a really sharp contrast with the dark color of the armor.

Thanks for posting the pics.

Helter
08-08-2004, 08:03 PM
Okay. This time I used a color called pure red. Darker Red is looking more brown than red. I'll keep trying though. Gotta learn somehow.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_34.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_33.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_35.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_36.jpg

Mav
08-08-2004, 08:15 PM
In my personal opinion, I like the first version the best so far, the last two look like the tattoo is protruding out of his head.

Achilles
08-08-2004, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by Helter
Okay. This time I used a color called pure red. Darker Red is looking more brown than red. I'll keep trying though. Gotta learn somehow.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_34.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_33.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_35.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_36.jpg

errrr....I can't tell that there's a difference:

http://img30.exs.cx/img30/9093/malakskin.jpg

Helter
08-08-2004, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by Achillies
errrr....I can't tell that there's a difference:

http://img30.exs.cx/img30/9093/malakskin.jpg

One is less bright. When you say Darker red, Do you mean red like the NFL's Redskins.

Okay I just re-colored the Tattoo.

I'll be back.:cool:


edit:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_37.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_38.jpg

This is an early attempt at the same re-color. You'll see why it sucked:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_39.jpg

Helter
08-08-2004, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by maverick187
In my personal opinion, I like the first version the best so far, the last two look like the tattoo is protruding out of his head.

Thanks Mav. What do you think of the newest one?

Achilles
08-08-2004, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Helter
One is less bright. When you say Darker red, Do you mean red like the NFL's Redskins.

Okay I just re-colored the Tattoo.

I'll be back.:cool:

Uhhh...dunno...don't watch sports. Let me google it.


Yeah, kinda. That color but lighter (not to be confused with brighter). Malak's original tattoo is so subtle that most people tend to overcompensate with color when reskining him. My own personal thing though. Don't workself silly on my account.

Helter
08-08-2004, 09:30 PM
No problem. I'm stopping for the night. Probably gonna learn other tutorials so I can be a modder.

I still have much to learn on Photoshop.

nacho35
08-08-2004, 10:26 PM
You know I always thought Malak looked queer in that half-cape thing and I still do! However, I really like the color scheme you changed it to. Good job.

Helter
08-08-2004, 10:44 PM
Thank You Nacho. Did you choose a favorite head?;)

Mav
08-08-2004, 10:54 PM
The latest one is better than the other two, but as a personal preference I still like the first one the best.

svösh
08-08-2004, 11:30 PM
Helter good work
and btw your are modding don’t get discouraged, technically this is re colouring because the texture is still the same all though it’s now grey you still see the mummy wrap on his body. Any ways the only thing I would change is there is a line going down the center of the head in gray. It’s only a pixel or two big so it’s really easy to fix with any of you painting tool’s hold down the Alt key and click the white part of his head to pick the exact same colour now use a 3 pixel size soft brush zoom in Ctrl + space bar + left click to zoom in, Ctrl + space bar + alt + left click to zoom out and paint a tiny area I would use a polygon selection so I don’t paint out side of it hit L on the keyboard to get the lasso if it ‘s icon is rounded hit shift to change to the polygon version click once and start tracing the line between the head and the jaw in the tga it’s just a micro space but to avoid overlapping your colour or bleeding. Paint… hit ctrl + D to deselect the selection then resave and test.

svösh

Achilles
08-08-2004, 11:54 PM
That post reminds me of the Republic soldier giving directions on Manaan....whew :D

stingerhs
08-09-2004, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by Achillies
Uhhh...dunno...don't watch sports. Let me google it.

YOU DON'T WATCH SPORTS!!!????!!!! oh well, when it comes to moddin, sports doesn't matter a bit (unless its madden :D ).

helter, i'd have to a agree with achillies on the tatoo color. just add a bit more red to the maroon color (redskin color), and it'll look really good (which i think is what he said). by the way, if you are modifying anything in a game from its original context, you are a modder. so don't get technical with the 'retexturer' and 'reskinner' terms. besides, if they make you feel second rate to the 'modder' term, don't use them.

Edit: i meant helter the first time. sorry for the confusion.
neeeeed sleeeeeeep

nacho35
08-09-2004, 12:50 AM
Did you choose a favorite head?

I like the first one. The darker red looks a little too bright for me, but this is your mod/retexture. I suck at Photoshop so don't mess with re-texturing very much. (I am slowly learning by editing my digital pictures!)

I would suggest you use whatever color you like the best.

Achilles
08-09-2004, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by nacho35
I would suggest you use whatever color you like the best.

Agreed. You seem open to feedback, which is good, but ultimately this is your mod and you need to be happy with it regardless of what others have to say about it.

Nice work thus far.

Glamador
08-09-2004, 12:24 PM
wow! i was using a personal combo of robes but plz plz plz post these! i want that red cape! it will go perfect with the combo i made!

Darth_ToMeR
08-09-2004, 01:43 PM
Too colorful for sith lord.

Achilles
08-09-2004, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by Darth_ToMeR
Too colorful for sith lord.

Huh? It's black and red...the same colors that he was before, but he reversed them. Changing the skin to be mostly black seems pretty reasonable to me, but that's just my opinion.

Helter
08-09-2004, 03:59 PM
Wow. Thanks guys. I appreciate the feedback pro and con.:)

I asked what you guys thought and for waht changes because i wanted to see if I can do it. It was sort of as a quiz for me. So thanks for your help.

Currently, I'm trying to learn what the various parts of the tga texture. I'm also trying to learn what the names like N_DarthMalak01 and N_CaloNord01 represent.

To user Glamador, I don't know how to give you the cape alone. I did a re-color to N_DarthMalak01.tga using Photoshop. Guess I can post the whole thing. I just have to figure out how.

You guys really want this? I haven't yet found the file where Malak is shown jawless so I guess I'm not done yet.:rolleyes:

Soon though.:D

Achilles
08-09-2004, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by stingerhs
YOU DON'T WATCH SPORTS!!!????!!!!

I consider it to a be supreme waste of time and attention. No offense to anyone on the board who feels otherwise.

Achilles
08-09-2004, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by Helter
I haven't yet found the file where Malak is shown jawless so I guess I'm not done yet.:rolleyes:


ERF's>TexturePacks>swpc_tex_tpa.erf>N>N_JediMalakH02

I hope that helps.

svösh
08-09-2004, 04:29 PM
Hehe I guess your kind or right about the directions Achillies, I didn’t intend it to be so confusing oh well it takes a lot longer to describe it then to do it . it’s like a 2 second fix up.

You beat me again in the kt >erf a >N > N_JediMalekH02.tga ;)

And I think pro athletes a bunch of babies getting millions for doing what they love and still not being satisfied with that they choose not to perform well, if it suits them. I have no time for that. Never did like team sport. No offence intended people, and back on track now.

svösh

Glamador
08-09-2004, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by Achillies
I consider it to a be supreme waste of time and attention. No offense to anyone on the board who feels otherwise.

omg...too true...just too true

stingerhs
08-10-2004, 12:54 AM
hmm, i hope i'm not the only one that can't live w/o sports, although i have to agree with y'all bout them guys bein paid 2 much ($243 mill to play baseball for 3 years, thats just way to over the top).

back on track, i think that helter is doin a fantastic job of simply improving the original malak skin, rather than completely redoin it. sometimes, the orginal just needs a few touch ups to be perfect.

Helter
08-10-2004, 01:48 PM
Here's the Jawless screenies. Nothing impressive.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_63.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_64.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_65.jpg

Also the download is available at pcgamemods.

http://www.pcgamemods.com/6615/

Achilles
08-10-2004, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Helter
Here's the Jawless screenies. Nothing impressive.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_63.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_64.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/Buthros/My%20Mods/NewEvilMalak_65.jpg

Also the download is available at pcgamemods.

http://www.pcgamemods.com/6615/

How cool is that :) Nice work.

Helter
08-10-2004, 02:05 PM
Is it normal for your eyes to burn after using photoshop? Or is it just me. Seriously my eyes have been burning and leaking since I started modding. Maybe I need to get used to it.

Achilles. Thanks. Your support has made this worthwhile.


edit: I almost forgot. Anyone who can, feel free to mess around with the files. If you come up with something, please post it.

stingerhs
08-10-2004, 02:26 PM
"the darkside is stong in this [one]. i can feel its power.", Darth Malak
me likes very much. dl now.
:joy:

Darth333
08-10-2004, 03:01 PM
Good work Helter! For a first retexture it is an excellent start :)

We are glad to have you here :) Keep up the good work!

Glamador
08-10-2004, 09:10 PM
i really like wat u did...alot...i loved the concept so much that i took the textures and added them to my own combo of malak robes (now he has black body, abs, silver chest plate, brown boots, blood red cape)...looks hot, great job

Helter
08-10-2004, 10:37 PM
Are you gonna post it?:D

Glamador
08-11-2004, 01:55 AM
sure, ill make a new thread and upload it now...its my first try at recoloring anything...ill give credit where its due