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VanLingo
08-13-2004, 05:49 AM
Here is an excerpt from Jed's shiny new set of "rules":
Under no circumstances are you allowed to insult (commonly referred to as "flaming"), curse at, offend, or just go completely off the wall against another user/group of users. If their opinion differs from yours, grow up and deal with it.
Yet, not four inches from the "rule" is a hip-thrusting stormtrooper. His signature contains the quote:
--Jed...I want you to know...I'm feelin it man...feelin it deep...feelin it hard...feelin it all over ~ InsaneSith
Hrm...I'm pretty sure that this is a public forum geared toward a wide variety of ages. That's not very family-friendly, Jed. In fact, it's downright offensive.

Then there's ET Warrior's malicious anti-religion signature:
--Newsflash to the religious, SEX FEELS GOOD. That's right, it's not just for babies anymore!
...which was taken from a heated debate that remains unmoderated (although at least four moderators are involved in the discussion).

Here are some quotes taken from InsaneSith's reportoire:
-- lesbian spank inferno. and some other porn for the rest of eternity, sh*t yeah.
--the hell are you on about?
Also, from ET Warrior:
--Not stupid for him, that kicks ass for him.
--Which he didn't, so why the hell is he punishing them?
And a couple of chunks from moderator Lynk Former:
--Your beliefs IMO are ****ed up but they are your beliefs no matter how bad it seems to me, so in turn, accept other peoples beliefs.
--believe what you want to believe but for f***sake let other people have their beliefs too
--you're a f***ing ignorant bastard.
--a lot of the things I've seen in hear are pretty f***in rediculous.
--Well that was my lil bit of bitchin to you all.
--then you get s*** like segregation
--use the damn edit button people
Here's one from moderator .:CoupeS:.:
--god doesn't give a rats' ass about politics...
Didn't I see something in the new "rules" about avoiding the censor and swearing excessively? Ah, yes...
Obey the censor and don't excessively swear. Don't try to bypass the censor, in other words.

Two of InsaneSith's most revolting quotes:
--oooh incest porn novel!
--the bible, truely a great hardcore porn novel.
Ugh.

My favorite flames:
--Say otherwise and you're a fool. -- Jed (Wouldn't have been a flame if someone wasn't saying otherwise.)
--You know if you say yes to that I'll just stand here and literally say (and I don't mean this as a flame) that you're a f***ing ignorant bastard. -- Lynk Former (You don't mean that as a flame?! For the record, the other person said 'yes'.)
--a lot of the things I've seen in hear are pretty f***in rediculous. -- Lynk Former
--I can firmly say this thread sucks -- Lynk Former
--this alone shows how ignorant you are. -- InsaneSith
--your statemen that one chooses their sexuality is crap. -- InsaneSith
--You, VanLingo, are quite a tit. -- PanzerTekk

Jed, .:CoupeS:., ET Warrior, and Lynk Former are all "moderators" of these boards. InsaneSith is one of their romping buddies, apparently.
Most of the quotes here were taken from one or two threads.

Does anyone else think that if we're going to have enforced rules, they should start from the top?
I was given a warning because of my "excessive sarcasm" and "provoking flame wars". The same message warned me that my "prior experience working for the site does not make [me] exempt from the rules". So am I exempt if I become a moderator?

I agree that this forum could use a cleaning up. But the mods need to set a better example before chastising others.

Xirion
08-13-2004, 07:04 AM
heh dont get too bothered about it bro, you shouldnt be offened by a virtual world

Lynk Former
08-13-2004, 08:09 AM
You know, in all honestly the Sliced TaunTaun itself seems to have a bad air about it in the first place. All these threads about politics and religion, etc can cause a lot of bad blood and a lot of extreme views.

Yeah we've all got blood on our hands in this forum, you, me, everyone. But that's what you get by having threads like the ones we have in this particular forum. In the other forums I don't swear or do anything like that but in here it seems nothing is off limits...

You have find the word "sex" and "ass" being said to be offensive. I find the fact that we're getting people in here telling other people that their beliefs are false to be offensive too.

I agree this place needs to be cleaned up, but don't blame this solely on one group. Everyone in here needs to start over, wash away all the bad blood, and start anew.

Pad
08-13-2004, 08:24 AM
First of all, I think you should not bash on people who you dont know and that have that "mod" status. These people have been here long enough and actually know very well what they can and cant do. If they wouldnīt they wouldnīt have that status, you know. Also, Iīve known them all since the beginning and most things they post isnīt ment to anger/flame people, but more or less as sarcasm. Itīs in fact all very harmless. So please, thinks twice before saying such things. ;)

Secondly, the discussion in the god thread is going and going and I deliberatly kept myself out of it as I surely would have stept on some peopleīs toes. This discussion goes about your own belief and since you think your oppinion is the best you get angry as people say itīs otherwise.

You are actually the first one complaining about that thread but I donīt think Iīve seen you put up some discussion. As said somewhere before, when you donīt like a thread, just pass by and simply go to another.

And donīt you say these sections go unmodded. Be very well aware that everything you folk do actually is monitered very well. Maybe action is taken a bit slower, but it will be taken. ;)

Edit: Damnit lynk for beating me.

jack "odc" one.
08-13-2004, 08:25 AM
I personally can not see where the censor was skirted. I read the boards for a while and i can't remember that i've seen any of those persons ever skirting the censor.
Yes they are mods and they seem to be harsh sometimes, and in fact they are, especially if it's about skirting the censor.

I cannot say there is/was never a 'questionable' post by any of those mods/"romping buddies", but they really are contributing to the threads and are pretty fair, i think. I have not seen any unjustice coming from them yet.

Also, i cannot see where a statement like "this thread sucks" is flaming. It more likely an opinion, mostly because A) the topic of the thread is rather pointless and/or B) it's content is rather blahblahblah than interesting from any viewpoint. And/or also C) something in the persons mind i can't follow, mainly because i am someone else.
But it's not flaming, since flaming is against a person, not a whole thread.
Jed...I want you to know...I'm feelin it man...feelin it deep...feelin it hard...feelin it all over ~ InsaneSith
Hmm. Nothing. I feel nothing.
Newsflash to the religious, SEX FEELS GOOD. That's right, it's not just for babies anymore!
But A) Sex feels good, and B) it's not only to make babies.
And C) how is the above quoted flamative, cursive, offensive or completely off the wall?

Sabretooth
08-13-2004, 09:27 AM
I agree with VanLingo. Infact, i was thinking of making a thread about Jed before, but oh well, forget it.

Jed
08-14-2004, 06:43 PM
This belongs in Feedback. :p :D

On a more serious note, it's no surprise that The Sliced TaunTaun is a mess. It's lacked a good moderation team for long time - StormHammer and I volunteered to take care of the place until we could recommend moderators that are prominent and productive community members. StormHammer has established the fact with me that he is not available to be on the forums recently, so that left it up to me. Some will argue that these forums aren't the place for prominent community members to thrive. That, as VanLingo has, er, "demonstrated", that moderators have created a harsh environment, that we've done a horrible job, yada yada yada, and so forth.

But I disagree! There are quite a few community members, not listed in the Magna Carta-style protest above, that have made quite a name for themselves. Have some community members PMed me with a question or two, and I resolve it without being an asshat? Of course. Are there members who make suggestions to moderators such as myself, without trying to make some global protest? Yes. And as you will see, these users will be congratulated and soon asked to take care of the community.

So am I exempt if I become a moderator?

Don't worry, buddy, you won't have to worry about that :p

Now to address your Fourteen (or less) Points:

-- The rules are not shiny and new - all I added yesterday was that you can't advertise. Looks like somebody never read them in the first place, until they wanted some backup for their protest.

-- If my avatar is offensive, ask me to remove it. Your habit of making public "Let's hate Jed together" parties are flattering, but I'm not always able to attend. Of course, if you had, I'd probably say that if you're getting your panties in an uproar about a thrusting Stormtrooper, then you're not 13 years old or older, and you shouldn't be on the forums.

-- In regards to signatures and avatars, you do know that we've allowed people to have avatars of ill-famed leaders such as Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin, right? Signatures and Avatars are subject to free speech, and of course, to a limit. Of course, if you made a good point of it tactfully, such as a PM or such to the "offending party", maybe with a pretty-please-with-sugar-on-top, they might make it disappear, just for you. ;)

-- Bringing InsaneSith into this is pointless. You're trying to create a case against moderators, which InsaneSith is not. His posts have been edited, as I have seen in the thread moved to the Senate Chambers awhile back.

-- You obviously have no idea what skipping the censor is. Let me show you. *CHILDREN WITH VIRGIN EARS SHOULD NOT WATCH, EVEN THOUGH THEY SHOULDN'T BE HERE ANYWAYS.*

**** **** bitch

Skirting the censor involves placing vB code in the middle of it, making it immune to the built in censor. Now, at least asterisks were being used with the swears. Also, ass is not in the censor.

-- Think you're an angel? Here's from August 1st.

Anyway, no one has any obligation to respond to SkinWalker. He is obviously racist and considers himself above the post word limit (thus taking advantage of anyone that is not a Super-Dee-Dooper Moderator).
He can have the welfare money, but he doesn't get my time.

I can take things out of context and make you look just as bad. But do I have a point? Not really.

And since you keep making this point about “post word limit”, the regular user in these forums gets 40,000 characters. You know how many a mod gets? 40,000 characters.

-- “I was given a warning because of my "excessive sarcasm" and "provoking flame wars".” I’ll take the credit for that, don’t worry.

In closing the forums need a cleaning up. All debate threads, from now on, will be moved to the Senate Chambers, which excels in handling debates. You will not find me there. That will eliminate most of the harsh feelings in The Sliced TaunTaun, and there shouldn’t be any more of the flaming you love to talk about, Van. I, and other moderators included, do not feel the need to use force unless presented with it. New users making mistakes will not prompt a “YOU ARE DEAD IN MY WORLD” response from a mod. We make casual warnings – if you choose to escalate it, we will respond. And in debates? Some people can’t debate. I can’t, and probably shouldn’t be posting in there. Sorry for all of my posts in a debate thread.

Other than that? If you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Originally posted by sabretooth
I agree with VanLingo. Infact, i was thinking of making a thread about Jed before, but oh well, forget it.

Be a man and pick a fight! It’s the new trend.

legameboy
08-14-2004, 06:48 PM
Welcome to the internet, bubs. :rolleyes:

ZBomber
08-14-2004, 07:08 PM
Pfft, I'm so sad you didn't include me in your hit list, Mr. VanLingo!

And after all those times I posted inapproiate pictures., I thought I earned your dislike. Where did I go wrong..... :disaprove

El Sitherino
08-14-2004, 09:30 PM
--Well that was my lil bit of bitchin to you all.

uhmmm bitching is another word used for complaining.

Here are some quotes taken from InsaneSith's reportoire:
-- lesbian spank inferno. and some other porn for the rest of eternity, sh*t yeah.
--the hell are you on about?

? I fail to see excessive cursing, or evasion of a censor. see the word is bleeped.

Here's one from moderator .:CoupeS:.:
--god doesn't give a rats' ass about politics...

nothing wrong here at all.... I believe if there is a god, he could care less about our petty differences.

Two of InsaneSith's most revolting quotes:
--oooh incest porn novel!
--the bible, truely a great hardcore porn novel.
Ugh.


so are you offended by the bible also? I mean the first book of the thing is all incest and death and disease and vengeance and "deviant sex acts"

--I can firmly say this thread sucks -- Lynk Former
this is not a flame, it is an observation

--this alone shows how ignorant you are. -- InsaneSith

he said retards should be killed because they are not aware, when they are. Thus showing he is ignorant.

--your statemen that one chooses their sexuality is crap. -- InsaneSith

I proved why his statement is crap.

Then there's ET Warrior's malicious anti-religion signature:
--Newsflash to the religious, SEX FEELS GOOD. That's right, it's not just for babies anymore!

it's not anti-religion, It is anti-abstinance. And it is true, sex does feel good, and it's not just for making babies.


--use the damn edit button people

once again, not a flame.


In summation, I'll give a statement that I hear everytime I say a slight "bad" thing about america... "if you don't like it, get out"

yaebginn
08-14-2004, 09:43 PM
for starters, you didnt prove anything, you just popped into the debate every now and again and acted annoying, you contributed nothing. and who said retards should be killed? and it wasnt a slight bad thing. a 14 year old kid said he hated america and thought it was gross and disgusting and he hated it. so I said, fine leave, get out of my country. if he hates it so much, then let him go.

Acrylic
08-14-2004, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by Jed
-- In regards to signatures and avatars, you do know that we've allowed people to have avatars of ill-famed leaders such as Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin, right?

Thats what I did once. Man, those were the days. I had an avatar of Hitler.

El Sitherino
08-15-2004, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by yaebginn
for starters, you didnt prove anything, you just popped into the debate every now and again and acted annoying, you contributed nothing. and who said retards should be killed? and it wasnt a slight bad thing. a 14 year old kid said he hated america and thought it was gross and disgusting and he hated it. so I said, fine leave, get out of my country. if he hates it so much, then let him go. I did so prove something, you said people choose their sexuality, I told you I chose nothing.

reelguy when we were discussing abortion.

I said when I said a slight bad thing about america, not someone else.

Mike Windu
08-15-2004, 12:36 AM
Pity, I wasn't even included in that list. I know I'm not a mod but surely I'm a "romping buddy."

So... this whole thread is about your hatred for Jed, basically?

Let me play you a song on the world's smallest violin :violin:
No Really, it IS the world's smallest violin.

Honestly, Mods are picked to be mods for a reason. Sure they've broken a few rules here and there*wink wink at some of you :xp:* but overall they have done a fine job.

Cept ET, cause he's power hungry. :indif:



I keed I keed




maybe not >.>

Lynk Former
08-15-2004, 12:56 AM
Hey I feel proud, I was mentioned many times. VanLingo must like me ^^ XD

Mike Windu
08-15-2004, 01:01 AM
Hush! I'll have none of this!

I'll show you all! I'm gonna do really bad post things now!:xp:

Sabretooth
08-15-2004, 05:26 AM
*blink blink*

I feel like I'm being torn into two parts. One, of the mods and two, of VanLingo.

I choose to take the third way.

(In words, Imouttahere)

VanLingo
08-15-2004, 06:18 AM
Calling someone a racist is not a flame, Jed. Especially when they're making comments against the "white middle-class". Then it becomes a statement.

This thread is not a hatred thread against Jed, although it's no secret that I have no respect for him (nor him for me).
This thread is about the fact that we have Louisiana cops for moderators.

You know the type: they've been a moderator for so long, they consider themselves above the rules.

Now they want to force-feed us all some fluffy policy? :rolleyes:
DISCRETION is the key word when speaking of moderators, and what we have at SWBattlefront.net is no discretion whatsoever.

I mean, seriously, when's the last time you saw "Edited by moderator on..." at the bottom of a post other than their own?
Yet the spam continues. The profanity continues. And I get a warning for sarcasm.

Evil Dark Jedi
08-15-2004, 08:15 AM
Yo man cool down.I like how the mods are.So they have broken the rules here but they are all right.








how do you become a mod anyway?

yaebginn
08-15-2004, 10:18 AM
Man, I got some words to say about a few of the new mods as well, but I'll refrain. I never hd a real problem with jed until a few weeksa ago. Iam way against these new changes, except for a few. its cool that Jeds gone, but he still sticks around, so its like nothing happened. now ET is the tauntaun mod, and that doesnt even need to be explained why I am against that.

SkinWalker
08-15-2004, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by yaebginn
Mnow ET is the tauntaun mod, and that doesnt even need to be explained why I am against that.

He seems to be doing a bang up job so far. What you guys don't see is the "new mods" asking advice from the "old mods" and administrators, which is ocurring. (we hold secret meetings in the basement).

I'd say that your disagreement with the mods stems from your disagreement with their politics and opinions on other matters more than their modding ability.

But Jed made a point. The threads that stirred the disagreements are in the Senate now (the forum for serious discussion). Moderation definately occurs there. And yet, I expect to see most of those that vocally disagreed with the moderation in the tauntan to avoid following their threads.

Lynk Former
08-15-2004, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by SkinWalker
I'd say that your disagreement with the mods stems from your disagreement with their politics and opinions on other matters more than their modding ability.

Just thought I'd quote that just to get peoples attentions.

Mike Windu
08-15-2004, 12:10 PM
That's true. If you have a problem with their perspective of politics/religion, deal with it. You can't forcefully convert someone, and I'm gonna pull out a quote here:

Excerpt from "The Once and Future King by T.H. White
"There was just such a man when I was young - An Austrian who invented a new way of life and convinced himself that he was the chap to make it work. He tried to impose his reformation by the sword, and plunged the civilized world into misery and chaos. But the thing which this fellow had overlooked, my friend, was that he had had a predecessor in the reformation business, called Jesus Christ. Perhaps we may assume that Jesus knew as much as the Austrian did about saving people, but the odd thing is that Jesus did not turn the disciples into stormtroopers, burn down the Temple at Jerusalem, and fix the blame on Pontius Pilate. On the contrary, he made it clear that the business of the philosopher was to make ideas available, and not to impose them on people."

You see?

Pad
08-15-2004, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
now ET is the tauntaun mod, and that doesnt even need to be explained why I am against that.
No please enlighten me, I actually want to know.

And while youīre at it, tell me your problem with me aswell. Cause since Iīm a mod here there has to be a problem with me aswell.

yaebginn
08-15-2004, 12:32 PM
for starters, you guys just moved the debates cause you know I dont frequent the senate much and you are tired of arguing. for seconders, I am against ET because he acts like a jerk. Even in non-debate threads, he's constently trying to find some way to get at me. its annoying. Me and Skin can have a heated deabte, than be ok outside of the thread. But I am not really close with either of them. but then ET will pop in a thread and harrass me, cause he s just that kind of guy. anf Pad, I dnt know you, if I got to know you, I probably wouldnt like you either, but you never know.

Lynk Former
08-15-2004, 12:39 PM
Does the word "hypocrite" mean anything to you?

yaebginn
08-15-2004, 12:44 PM
I assume that means you are calling me a hypocrite, explain.

No need to doublepost. Patience can be your friend ;)

Lynk Former
08-15-2004, 12:56 PM
Okay I'll start from the top of that last post you made...

for starters, you guys just moved the debates cause you know I dont frequent the senate much and you are tired of arguing.
if they didn't want you to post there they wouldn't have provided links to the threads that have been moved to the senate so you can track the threads down to their new location.


I am against ET because he acts like a jerk. Even in non-debate threads, he's constently trying to find some way to get at me. its annoying...
Lookie lookie, you're doing something you just accused him of doing to you and yes some of us do find you to be a jerk too.


anf Pad, I dnt know you, if I got to know you, I probably wouldnt like you either...
XD this one i love the most. I mean, what the hell? Seems like you're just not gonna like anyone unless they agree with you 100% huh.

TK-8252
08-15-2004, 01:00 PM
It sounds to me that you're just determined to rebel against the staff, no matter who they are. You've already labeled Pad, someone you don't even know, a jerk just because he has this under his avatar:

Status: Moderator

How mature. :indif:

Pad
08-15-2004, 01:00 PM
We can all learn from Milky the cow ;)

http://www.feestweekend.be/upload/store/cow.jpg

yaebginn
08-15-2004, 01:13 PM
I never said I didnt like Pad, I said if I got to know him, I probably wouldnt like him. I dont like most people. And I dont like to ,'rebel against authority' its just that I havent much liked TK since I started here, and now hes a mod. alot of mods I have come across are jerks, some are ok, though.

Lynk Former
08-15-2004, 01:30 PM
Well then I guess you have an issue to deal with then. Good luck with it.

yaebginn
08-15-2004, 02:14 PM
what issue? there are over 6 billion people in the world. I dont know even a small fraction of them. how would I like all of them if I dont even know a little bit of them? Statistically, I dont like most people. I havent even seen most people.

SkinWalker
08-15-2004, 02:38 PM
What Would Jesus Do?

Jed
08-15-2004, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
Man, I got some words to say about a few of the new mods as well, but I'll refrain. I never hd a real problem with jed until a few weeksa ago. Iam way against these new changes, except for a few. its cool that Jeds gone, but he still sticks around, so its like nothing happened. now ET is the tauntaun mod, and that doesnt even need to be explained why I am against that.

Yeah, you and the rest of the world :p

Van, you want me to edit people's posts for spam? I delete most spam I see. I don't like to edit people's posts to correct their grammar, since I'd say that borders on acting like a major degrading jackass. Quite frankly, I like to get that message across other ways.

It's not my job, nor any other moderators', to edit out every piece of profanity we find. So get that out of your head. And spam will happen, and it gets taken care of when it becomes a serious problem.

And yeah, you keep pointing out you were warned. Not something to be proud of :p

Quite frankly when it comes down to it, you're disappointed you don't see things moderated the way that you would. I see no valid points here.

yaebginn, the Senate Chambers is the only place in LucasForums where a good debate can happen without resorting to harsh feelings. SkinWalker and C'Jais do an excellent job moderating debates. I don't really care if you visit it or not, frankly, I'm not thinking of you when I move a thread. It's the fact that debates don't belong in places where the atmosphere is going to make everyone else go at each other's throats. And I can't moderate debates; I have and will continue to admit that I suck at political debates. That's why Skin never sees me in there other than to move a thread, isn't that right? ;)

You have absolutely no reason to be against the new moderators already - I've seen forum confrontations between you people and the way it was handled is how I and other staff like to see things get done.

So put the petty differences aside and we'll move on - I'm more than happy to do it, but it seems some like to piss and moan about these things more than I.

This thread is not a hatred thread against Jed, although it's no secret that I have no respect for him (nor him for me).

Van, you do know that StormHammer and I were the only mods who had any power here at the time you made your post, right? ;)

Rogue Nine
08-15-2004, 02:48 PM
yaebginn, all you want is a hug isn't it? I knew it. You're just a snuggly-wuggly teddy bear who needs some affection. C'mere you. :joy:

This place looks like fun. I think I'll hang around more. :D

ZBomber
08-15-2004, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Rogue Nine
yaebginn, all you want is a hug isn't it? I knew it. You're just a snuggly-wuggly teddy bear who needs some affection. C'mere you. :joy:

This place looks like fun. I think I'll hang around more. :D

I think you should. Some people around here need a handful of Niner, and then I think they will understand. ;)

What Would Jesus Do?

http://www.misspoppy.com/catalog/img/products/panties/wwjd_panty.jpg

yaebginn
08-15-2004, 03:26 PM
for starters, Jed, you have posted in a debate a few times. when u called me a fool if I disagreed with you. and then I said, 'oh, being called a fool by Jed, like that means anything' and then you said ,' dont flame'

rogue nine, I dont like to be touched. and I dont knwo what Jesus would do, seeing as he doesnt go online much.

Jed
08-15-2004, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
for starters, Jed, you have posted in a debate a few times. when u called me a fool if I disagreed with you. and then I said, 'oh, being called a fool by Jed, like that means anything' and then you said ,' dont flame'

Once again, my point is completely missed. I said I normally don't go to post in the Senate Chambers since I'm bad at it.

You also put your own spin on how things happened. I believe this is the way things went down. (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=130392&perpage=40&pagenumber=6)

rogue nine, I dont like to be touched. and I dont knwo what Jesus would do, seeing as he doesnt go online much.

And lighten up, Niner isn't going to molest you :p

Mike Windu
08-15-2004, 04:15 PM
Aye, Niner wants sechz.

Good at it too >.>

yaebginn
08-15-2004, 04:27 PM
how exactlydid I put my own spin on things. and who siad anything about molest? I just dont like to be touched like at all.

jack "odc" one.
08-15-2004, 04:41 PM
So, basically, yeabginn, because you don't "like" ET Warrior, he shouldn't be a mod, like all the others shouln'd be, because you do not "like" them, too, like you don't "like" most people anyways? Ahh, the mature youth.

And i think somebody was kidding.

Want a touch?

yaebginn
08-15-2004, 05:13 PM
I dont think they shouldnt be mods, I think they shouldnt be mods HERE. on battlefront forums, cause thats where I am, I dont go in the swamp. I went there once or twice, but they can stay there. now everyones comign over here. before a few weeks ago, I had never heard of skinwalker or insanesith or ET or mikewindu. now they're all here.

TK-8252
08-15-2004, 05:26 PM
Orignally posted by yaebginn
I dont think they shouldnt be mods, I think they shouldnt be mods HERE. on battlefront forums, cause thats where I am, I dont go in the swamp. I went there once or twice, but they can stay there. now everyones comign over here. before a few weeks ago, I had never heard of skinwalker or insanesith or ET or mikewindu. now they're all here.

:roleyess:

Oh yes, the staff should have put you in consideration and never hired the new Moderators for here because you don't like them and you're here. This is your territory and no new Moderators should be here because you don't like them.

What will he think of next?

jack "odc" one.
08-15-2004, 05:32 PM
And what exactly is wrong with them being here? They have the same right to be here as you do. Where is it said they aren't allowed to be here? Just because you don't 'feel' so? Do you really think they are here just because of you?

yaebginn
08-15-2004, 05:45 PM
they can be here, and it'd be ok with me, but I dont like them moderating here.

Jed
08-15-2004, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
they can be here, and it'd be ok with me, but I dont like them moderating here.

Okay, let me get this straight. You don't like me for reasons I understand, and you don't like ET for reasons I don't understand. But you have a problem with TK, Pad, and Alegis why?

Mike Windu
08-15-2004, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by Jed
Okay, let me get this straight. You don't like me for reasons I understand, and you don't like ET for reasons I don't understand. But you have a problem with TK, Pad, and Alegis why?

He doesn't like ET because ET presents as much logical statement as the rest of us do to his little debate. Skin, ET, Lynk, Jed, Sith, and I all have come up with logical points to counter his points, and he doesn't like us for that.

BTW: I'm not a mod.

He doesn't even know TK, Pad, and Alegis. :indif:

EDIT: Z and Coupes also proved yae wrong on numerous accounts. and stuff.

TK-8252
08-15-2004, 06:10 PM
Actually, yaebginn does know me. I'm disliked by him because I'm one of the many people who have disagreed with him in the past.

Rogue Nine
08-15-2004, 06:14 PM
yaebginn, if you don't think those people should moderate these forums, who should then? I'd like to know what kind of people you'd like being in control of this place. Just to see things from your perspective because I don't think Jed and the rest of us are understanding you and your complaints correctly. If you'd tell us what kind of person you'd like as a moderator here, perhaps then we could get to the root of the problem.

Mike Windu
08-15-2004, 06:16 PM
Fine, that whittles it down to 2 people he doesn't know.

Poor kid, you don't like the big bad mods being in your forums? That's a sad story. I'd like to play you a song on the world's smallest violin: :violin:


couldn't resist using it one more time :xp:

EDIT: Niner makes a good point. Who would you like to mod these forums... perhaps yourself and reelguy?:rolleyes:

ZBomber
08-15-2004, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by TK-8252
:roleyess:

Oh yes, the staff should have put you in consideration and never hired the new Moderators for here because you don't like them and you're here. This is your territory and no new Moderators should be here because you don't like them.

What will he think of next?


.....

My new favorite mod. Sorry Jed, you've been replaced! :D

*huggles TK*

Mike - You forgot me! While you were all arguign abot God knows Wat (I win....), I mocked yae/whoever the hell else with the pictures! :D

yaebginn
08-15-2004, 10:42 PM
I am fine with alegis. He is fine. TK I dont like because he is a suckup, ET because he harrasses me outside of debates, Pad, I am fine with at the moment, but seems to be someone I wouldnt like, Stormhammer, I dont know well enough. Who would I rather be mods? Keep the ones I am ok with. Then add, Badger, PBF, VanLingo, LukeKatarn (for diversity), MikeWindu (also for diversity) Tfighterpilot, and Doomgiver. I call them my Mod Squad.

ZBomber
08-15-2004, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
I am fine with alegis. He is fine. TK I dont like because he is a suckup, ET because he harrasses me outside of debates, Pad, I am fine with at the moment, but seems to be someone I wouldnt like, Stormhammer, I dont know well enough. Who would I rather be mods? Keep the ones I am ok with. Then add, Badger, PBF, VanLingo, LukeKatarn (for diversity), MikeWindu (also for diversity) Tfighterpilot, and Doomgiver. I call them my Mod Squad.

They weren't picked for mods. Live with it.

yaebginn
08-15-2004, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by ZBomber
They weren't picked for mods. Live with it.

but Niner and Mike asked who I'd like to mod, I simply answered.

Mike Windu
08-15-2004, 11:03 PM
I'm shocked you put me in your list, and I decline(being nice) find someone else for your diversity.

lmao, "mod squad". Would we follow your orders? Perhaps we should rename TSTT to yaebginn's forums

>.>
<.<

See, to be even CONSIDERED for mod, you have to be here for a while, know the ropes, know alot of people who vouch for you. And, you know, just other stuff that you don't know yet cause you're still relatively new.

PBF: relatively new
tfighterpilot: threads closed for various reasons, still relatively new
badger:relatively new, not many know him
Vanlingo: :rofl:
Doomgiver: relatively new

Post count doesn't help you get mod.

and the plus side you get to snuggle with mods at night... *wink wink*

TK-8252
08-15-2004, 11:05 PM
Most of the people on that list have either been in serious trouble before, or haven't even been at LucasForums long enough for the staff to know. You want those kinds of people put in a position in power? Heh, I'm sure glad you're not in-charge of LucasForums. They'd be dead in a matter of weeks.

And, point out one place where I have sucked up.

Mike Windu
08-15-2004, 11:09 PM
Cept for that Mike kid, cause he's really cool, and stuff.

and he's a good snuggle buddy too >.>

yaebginn
08-15-2004, 11:12 PM
Ok, for one, Lingo is already on the staff. For two, alot of people on these forums know the people I mentioned. I didnt know Et until he came here. But I knew Badger since he posted. and it doesnt matter how new they are to the forums, most of the people I mentioned are wise, except for those named for diversity. (no offense) and TK, I wont say when u sucked up, unless you say that nothing said in this thread will be used against another.

TK-8252
08-15-2004, 11:19 PM
Lingo is not on the staff.

And I would like to know where I "sucked up."

Mike Windu
08-15-2004, 11:20 PM
You are aware that YOU knowing people doesn't mean anything to the mods, because YOU aren't on the staff. :indif: If you would explore the rest of LF, you will find more members than you could ever keep track of.

I think the newness does play a factor in the role of deciding mods. More time to get to know the person, and how they act.

yaebginn
08-15-2004, 11:23 PM
check the main page, and you will see some of Lingos stuff. and I alreadytold you my conditions, TK. Meet them, or meet me on AIM or by email. my aim is the same as my forum name and my email is my forum name with @hotmail.com tacked on.

TK-8252
08-15-2004, 11:26 PM
Lingo got fired. Look in his signature and see for yourself.

And if you can't find one single time that I sucked up, then I suppose your opinion about me being a suck-up will go unsupported, like many other things you say...

yaebginn
08-15-2004, 11:28 PM
I told you my conditions, meet them, or no dice.

EDIT- and he still WAS staff, meaning he has a feel for things. He'd be a decent mod.

TK-8252
08-15-2004, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by TK-8252
And if you can't find one single time that I sucked up, then I suppose your opinion about me being a suck-up will go unsupported, like many other things you say...

Go ahead and point out any place where I have sucked up. You can't be banned for posting that it I told you to do so.

yaebginn
08-15-2004, 11:35 PM
Ok, you have often tried to be a mod. With your spelling nazi deal and your constantly telling people where their thread belongs, hoping to be noticed and become a mod. you've always taken the mods side and tried to be a good little boy so that you can get picked to be a mod, your dream.

TK-8252
08-15-2004, 11:36 PM
So... who have I sucked up to?

ZBomber
08-15-2004, 11:43 PM
Yae, Lingo got fired because there was no one else around at the time. But then they saw what a bad poster he was, and he got PWNED!

+2 for ZBomber!

yaebginn
08-15-2004, 11:45 PM
Mods in general.

ZBomber
08-15-2004, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
Mods in general.

Yeh, I guess being nice to a mod now is sucking up?

TK, you are cool.....

HOLY **** WATCH OUT I'M SUCKING UP!

Seriously, mods don't even have much say in who becomes staff. That is the job of admins. All mods/super mods can do is recommend people......

yaebginn
08-16-2004, 12:01 AM
he wasnt being just nice, he was sucking up.

Mike Windu
08-16-2004, 12:03 AM
Ok, you have often tried to be a mod. With your spelling nazi deal and your constantly telling people where their thread belongs, hoping to be noticed and become a mod. you've always taken the mods side and tried to be a good little boy so that you can get picked to be a mod, your dream.

1)Spelling nazi is something a lot of people do, they just do it because it bugs the person being picked on, OR they really want to help them.

2)Maybe he's trying to help the mods? I know when I'm monitoring jk3files comments TK points out to me anything that needs editting. He's not sucking up, he's helping the mod.

3) Taken the mod's side? I wasn't aware we were in 2nd grade. Being a good little boy here does nothing, helping mods and making logical posts, etc. That could help get you picked to be a mod.

4) And what would YOU do, if YOU wanted to be a mod.

TK-8252
08-16-2004, 12:15 AM
Actually, I never hoped to ever be a Mod. I was pretty suprised when I got picked for Mod to tell you the truth. All the times I've pointed out misplaced threads I'm just doing that to help other people explore the forums and see that there is more than the main discussion forum. If you view that as sucking up, then, that's your opinion about that and I understand that.

yaebginn
08-16-2004, 12:27 AM
If I WANTED to be a mod. I'd first le t a mod know. Then I'd be helpful. give lots of info. and not be a jerk. I know someones gonna comment on the last point, so dont try to be funny. I see you.

Lynk Former
08-16-2004, 12:58 AM
*coughs* sorry I was laughing so much I forgot to breath there for a second.... this thread has become so ridiculous. If you want something to do go plant a tree instead of buggin' us. You have a problem with the mods? Fine, whatever, we can't please everyone, obviously. You want to help? Stop bitching about how every mod is a jerk, and yes you didn't say "every mod" but your views are pretty clear. Get over it.

Thread closed. Got a problem with that? PM me.


Edit: and on a final note, for shame, Niner was being very nice there with that hug.

yaebginn
08-16-2004, 03:00 PM
I was recently threatened to be banned by Lynk Former in the rogue squadron forums. I was saying how Lynk postedin the battlefornt forums as well, and he threatened to ban me. whats the deal?

Pad
08-16-2004, 03:28 PM
What the deal is,

You went to a forum section you normally donīt post in just to hassle Lynk. All posts in that thread were ment as laughter as is that whole forum and you came in and bashed him. A thing you shouldnt be doing. Especially since your credibility isnīt very high.
Seeing as you also bashed TK in a thread were he was doing his job. You broke the rules but we decided not to take any actions if it would be a standalone. Maybe you should read em again and memorise them. Gives you a bigger chance at surviving here.

And what is your deal against Lynk. He closed a few threads you were discussing in, but however know this: I would also have pulled the plug on those threads since they evolved from a serious topic towards something hilarious. A joke.

And maybe your plans are to be funny or something but then I advise you to use a smilie when you do.

P.S. you also PMīd Lynk about the whole bussiness and he calmly and honestly replied. Keep that in mind.

We donīt have a problem with you, just the way you act ;)

yaebginn
08-16-2004, 03:49 PM
I dont see a replt, I'll go check. and it wasnt jsut to hassle him, I posted in a few other threads as well. I satrted going to that forum a bit because a few people forem there came her.e

Pad
08-16-2004, 03:56 PM
If it wasnīt just to bash him I advise you to consider thinking about your posts before placing them, because the way you made it sound didnīt put you in positive spotlights. How about an apology maybe? ;)

Another advice. Donīt go to forums because other people frequent it. Visit it when you actually are intrested in it. And watch out when going to Aresen (that forum you went) because they will eat you alive. Just a note tho ;)

And Lynk did answer your PM, have a look.

ZBomber
08-16-2004, 04:27 PM
The only reason you went there was because Lynk came here. But, that's HIS JOB. He's a super mod, he has to go to all of the forums to maintain things and help the other mods.

You aren't banned, you were just warned. So, why don't you stop complaining and try to start over, instead of draging out things that should be dead.

Jed
08-16-2004, 04:36 PM
yaebginn, your posts in RS.net are, well, completely unwarranted. As you'd have soon found out, that area of the forums are much less forgiving than we are here. Community-wise. Also, RS.net is Lynk's home area on the forums, so to speak - If you cause trouble there, he's authorized to initiate a [temporary] ban.

Your posts lately have been lackluster. The USA Successor (http://lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=131112&perpage=40&pagenumber=11) was 11 pages of unprecedented crap. Only to end with "Japan will attack US with robots and samurai."

What. the. hell.

Don't take me wrong, I'm not trying to be a bastard here - but I think you should take a few days to re-evaluate your stay here and your posting habits. 3 days, to be specific.

I'm only posting here so you and others can see my justification for this, and that I'm not going off on some "power spree", or as your romping buddy likes to call it "Louisiana Cop" stuff.

It's a 3 day temp ban. So hang tight, and don't make another account in the meantime. IP checks can be done, and making another account will mean you get permanently banned.

Doomie
08-16-2004, 04:46 PM
whew, i thougth the guy was totally banned, that he had been doing somethign seriously wrong... i always go check out what got people banned... it's a fun passtime y'know...

Good to see he's not gone permanently. Though he's a bit weird, he's also a pretty nice guy and good RP'er...

Jed
08-16-2004, 04:50 PM
I agree, you know - he's a good RPGer.

But read that thread and tell me if you can logically follow what happened.

Virtuosis
08-16-2004, 10:50 PM
Wow I too was wondering what happened. Though I'm new here, I saw him posting a lot. So when I suddenly see that hes banned I'm like what? Glad thats its not forever. Hopefully he can turn around and make things better here. :)

TK-8252
08-16-2004, 10:55 PM
I believe it's time to pull the plug on this thread... at this rate it'll turn into a public discussion of the ban.

Lynk Former
08-17-2004, 01:36 AM
On a final note.

yaebginn I know you're a good poster when it comes to certain subjects and talking about the game and such which is why you're only getting a 3 day banning rather than a permanent.

If you hadn't come to my home forum to harass me you wouldn't have been banned. Surprisingly I didn't ban you, I was asleep... and remember I don't have anything against you, you do post good posts in a lot of threads and I have seen them.

I hope by the time you return you're calmer and you can go on posting good posts.

VanLingo
08-17-2004, 02:38 AM
Hey, why was Yaeb Ginn banned? He's the only one who makes discussions around here interesting.

It takes the mods four days or more to answer PMs, so screw that. And they lock any thread pointing out their backward ways.

Take up arms, forumers! Down the mods! Up the real posters!

TK-8252
08-17-2004, 02:44 AM
We're not opening this can of worms again.

If you want to see why your buddy yaeb was banned, see the thread called "Banning?" by him and see for yourself.

boranchistanger
08-18-2004, 05:48 PM
Yaebginn was banned for a stupid reason like expressing his first ammendment right in a mature, responsable way? Lingo's thread gets locked up for no reason? Is this forum based in Cuba or something?

Policy needs to change. People who speak out against Mods should not be punished. People who speak out against mods who abuse their powers should not have their threads closed or their accounts banned. Heck, I'll probuably have my account banned for posting this.

A message to Van Lingo: You have displayed great curage and have truly earned the respect of the members of these forums on this issue. Keep up the fight, I'm with you. I will not stop, and hopefully you won't either, until justice is delivered.

-Boran

Darth Groovy
08-18-2004, 06:12 PM
First of all Yaebginn, a member since WHEN now? Decides to come in and tell us that we are basically all full of crap, as has been the case for many, MANY threads recently. Yaebginn was banned for flaming, a rule that has been in effect since the last 5 years.

What I fail to understand, is where we are so wrong? Also, a forum as new as this one, contains moderators that have been following LF rules for the last 2 + years?

The thing these threads fail to prove, is why anyone with any senior privileges should actually listen to you. As a well seasoned moderator, honestly...sorry to say, you guys are just coming off as looking to fight for the sheer sake of argument, and you are the only ones doing all the complaining. Show us where the real problem is.

BTW, the game is not even out yet!:rolleyes:

Jed
08-18-2004, 06:12 PM
"until justice is delivered"? The hell are you smoking? Seriously, you people need to go form your own country or something.

No, boran, yaebginn was temporarily banned in response to his outrageous post about Japan, robots, and taking over the US. Saying things like "you don't know what I know" sounds somewhat like he needs a little vacation. He'll be back tomorrow, so stop jumping to conclusions. This is the internet, not America, so quit the First Amendment bull. We reserve the right to enforce our rules here, and even so, I wouldn't call any of that thread mature or responsible.

VanLingo's thread was closed because he has no basis for what he's said, and has decided not to cooperate with us. The first thread was closed because it started to lead into an off-topic mess. Lynk was courteous enough to let the discussion continue if somebody sent him a PM asking for it to be reopened - Van decided to "screw that", and posted another Viva la Revolucion! thread.

And no, you won't get your account banned - however I'm not listening to anything you say unless you get your facts straight. And all you people want to do is bitch and moan until the forum is run the way you'd like.

Bring up valid points, and I'll start listening. None of Van's points in the last thread that I countered were disputed by your comrade yaebginn.

It's also courage, if I'm supposedly some monster-like asshat.

ET Warrior
08-18-2004, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by boranchistanger
Keep up the fight, I'm with you.

:eyeraise:

So it's a battle now? On an internet forum?

This sounds like fun, what're you guys gonna do? Fashion some form of spear that will stab us in the eyes through our monitors?

I must begin work on my face shield device........






Edit - on a serious note, this is just silly, it was a TEMP ban, because he was harassing Lynk Former for no reason. He's gone for three days, jeeez. And VanLingo is obviously trying to provoke us with those threads, especially the one that said something or other about ousting us mods. :D

TK-8252
08-18-2004, 06:34 PM
I am so sick of this. All those who feel the need to "rebel" against the staff: grow up, move on, accept that you're not running these forums.

Someone being banned for three days is not a big deal. Move on. Yaeb was NOT banned for speaking against the staff, but instead HARASSING them, and has not exactly been the ideal poster.

If you want to "rally your troops," do it on your own forums - and stop spamming this forum with this revolutionary crap.

If you want to fight for freedom, join the military.

Lynk Former
08-18-2004, 07:02 PM
@ boranchistanger:

If you want an "issue" to fight for why don't you go fight to save the environment or something worthy instead of trying to have petty squabbles with some people on the Internet of all places. Or like TK said, you wanna fight for something, join the military.

If you're THAT unhappy with this forum, find one you think is better somehwere else or make your own. Try www.phpbb.com or www.invisionboard.com, download their forum software, get some webspace and make a forum and invite all your buddies and have fun.

If you want to continue your time here, it's time to get over it and move on. Honestly, every mod here just wants to go on with their lives, like we've been saying over and over, Yaebginn will be back. Go talk about how much you're excited about Battlefronts or something instead of trying to start a revolution or whatever the hell it is you're trying to do.

Rogue Nine
08-18-2004, 07:33 PM
I love how nobody ever puts things in perspective when they come here and complain about the staff.

This is an online forum. Yes, a stupid little online forum. And you get all worked up about it, like someone just beat your puppy to death with a tire iron. It's not the friggin' end of the world. 'OMG HE GOT BANNED, LET'S RISE UP AND REVOLT LIKE OUR FOREFATHERS WHO FOUGHT FOR THEIR FREEDOM.' You make yourselves out to be like the peasants under Robespierre when in actuality you sound more like a lazy senior high school special ed class. It's really quite ridiculous. Y'all take everything so seriously when it comes to bucking with authority.

The mods are here out of their own free will. All of them. It's a volunteer outfit, no one is forced into it. They're chosen because of their maturity, their objectivity and their ability to deal professionally and amicably with unhappy posters. Some of them have been at it for a long time, some of them are new at it. Nonetheless, they all possess the aforementioned qualities, that's why they're where they are. Simply because you disagree with their decisions on the matter of yaebginn is hardly a reason for a call to arms against the mods.

Even so, what do you think you'll accomplish? "True justice"? Dude, what the hell does that even mean? You're gonna take Jed and hang him by his testicles? Run ET through with a wooden stake? Come on, people. It's the friggin' INTERNET for Chrissakes. You come here to have fun, to talk, not to plot counterinsurgence against 'tyranny' and 'oppression'.

Y'all need to just grow up. Seriously. Like almost everyone has said in this thread, if you're passionate and ardent about freedom, then go out and focus your energies elsewhere, where it will benefit the people around you. Don't waste it here, at some Captain Kangaroo forum like this.

And if you're just arguing for 'revolution' simply because the mods don't agree with you and you want to get back at them (which I think is the case), then go elsewhere. We're obviously too militant and oppressive for you. You should go and get a forum of your own and plot there. Hell, you can even plot to take down this forum, for all we care. You can talk about how much you want to stab TK in the face or bash in my knees. Bottom line is, if this place makes you feel sad or mad, leave. Find someplace you can be happy. There's nothing to be changed here. If you think you can be this forum's Che Guevaras, think again, buckos.

Now, if you'll excuse me. I have to go 'oppress more forummers' and 'ban them for talking back to me.'

For those of you that can't interpret that, it means I really need to take a piss.

Lynk Former
08-18-2004, 07:46 PM
I love you, Niner ^^

THE BADGER:
08-18-2004, 10:41 PM
You guys are funny!:D

I agree with the mods, I am one one another forum. Stop whinning.:rolleyes:

SkinWalker
08-19-2004, 01:34 AM
Quoted from: SWBattlefront.net Code of Conduct (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=133519)

"Under no circumstances are you allowed to insult (commonly referred to as "flaming"), curse at, offend, or just go completely off the wall against another user/group of users."

"Don't harass the staff."

Doing so can result in:

"Spamming and flaming will result, in most cases, with multiple warnings from within a thread or via PM. From there, punishments will vary from a ban, temp-ban, and/or a nuking of your post count, all the way down to zero..."

Having worked with teens for the better part of the last decade, I predict that the first response by those that feel an injustice would be to point out that they were somehow flamed or insulted, however, unless they utilized the REPORT button or alerted another mod to their disagreement, it isn't a valid argument.

"Insult" is a very subjective term as well, so if you feel insulted, it doesn't mean it was a rules violation in the eyes of a mod. I realize this isn't necessarily fair, but what in life is?

I think that the moderation team at LF makes a good attempt to create, foster, and promote an environment where Lucas Arts / Star Wars fans of all types and ages can come together for fun and enjoyment. For some of us, enjoyment comes through serious discussion and debate. For others, it's a general jocular behavior among those that think the same.

But its that last part that makes the difference. In the Sliced Taun-Taun and in the Swamp, I've watched serious issues come between members of the forums for years. This is one of the reasons that the Senate Chambers (http://www.lucasforums.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=445) was created like a year and a half ago. Those of us that have stuck around there have learned that we can engage in arguments and debates, often very heated ones, without losing respect for each other. In fact, I gained a lot of respect for Obi-Wan13, Darth Groovy, RpTheHotRod, and a few others whom I debated religion with (even though I won the debates ;) ).

But when you engage in discussions about that which you disagree, divisions occur in the camp. People who came together for a common cause, like a fun Star Wars game, begin to lose respect for their fellow LF member based on their opposing viewpoints on one or two things rather than build respect for the courage to dissent and appreciate their opinions when you do agree.

I think ET, Jed, et al made some real attempts to accomodate Yaebginn, Vanlingo, Boran..., reelguy, and a few others by not moving the serious discussion / debate threads to the Senate. They were criticized early on when this was done to the War in Iraq (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=131717) thread. Then, when they didn't all line up and agree with the clan-boys, offering tough arguments in opposition, they were criticized as being "Louisiana Cops" and harassed.

I have two suggestions: one for those who feel an "injustice," and one for Jed & Lynk.

1) Those upset should look a little harder to find what they have in common and find enjoyment in the diversity (what a boring place it would be if everyone agreed with each other, especially for those of us that like to argue).

2) Send all serious discussion threads to me and 'Jais in the Senate. Or, if the members most affected are genuinely opposed, include the Sliced Taun-Taun within mine or C'Jais' moderation reach.

ET Warrior
08-19-2004, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by SkinWalker
include the Sliced Taun-Taun within mine or C'Jais' moderation reach.

I think you're just trying to muscle in on my territory Skin!!

:p


I keeed, I keed

THE BADGER:
08-19-2004, 02:07 AM
Well said SkinWalker. I agree with you. I know I'm new to the forum, but I am a mod on another forum so I know how it is. But I have seen many mods break the rules and you can't deny it. But I have broken one or two myself since I started posting on this forum. No one here is a machine and will never make a mistake we all will break the rules no and again, but that is not any reason for us to start, and I like the way it was said earlier in a post, Viva Le Revolution. I think this should be put to bed. BUt like he said ealier, if someone does offend you, even a mod, than report them. Simple as that.

Some of us might not agree with the mods for banning the dude, er.. whats his name... yeab?, but thats the way it goes. I don't agree with the cop that wrote me a ticket last week for idling threw a stop sign at 2 am either but thats the way it goes. Life is like that.

So I say put this to bed and get on about talking about Battlefront. I mean September almost here.

El Sitherino
08-19-2004, 05:17 AM
yeah, man because everyone is out to get you.:rolleyes: seriously grow up and learn that not everything is about you and what you want. kthxbai.

ZBomber
08-19-2004, 02:17 PM
I wonder if Yae is coming back.....

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 03:09 PM
yes, I will. and I dont want an army to fight the mods, I just want the admin or something to do something about mods who are hypcrites. I've been said I was banned for my Japan thing, flaming, harrassing, which is it? All of those said by different people. Please, do, tell.

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 03:15 PM
This is a thread for questions about the forums that arent worth a whole thread. here's two.

1. Whats the worst a sig can be before you get banned?

2. What do you do if you ban someone with 300 posts in a temp-ban. Do u make thier sig say- Banned? since they dont have enough posts for a title?

ET Warrior
08-19-2004, 03:16 PM
It was all of the above combined.

The fact that you did all of them resulted in your temp ban, had you done a single one it would have simply been a warning.

And pray do tell, which of us are the hypocrites, and how have we hypocrasied?

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 03:19 PM
I was nver warned for the Japan thing, it was closed rather quickly once I started rambling, and please tell my specific instances where I flamed and another when I harrassed. The hyprocrites are...Lynk and Jed. Maybe more, but I cant tihnk of them off the top of my head.

ET Warrior
08-19-2004, 03:20 PM
1.) There is no set limit on how bad we allow, if it's highly offensive then we will first ask that it be changed without banning, unless it is explicit porn...then it's a direct out ban.


2.) The custom title always reads banned when people get banned. Even if they only have 1 post. :)

Pad
08-19-2004, 03:31 PM
You call us hypcrites yet you are one yourself. And not that I say that out of the blue. I refer to the "rules should apply to mods aswell" thread where you called me a jerk without even knowing me. Lukely for you Iīm not that vindicatory.

First of all I advice you to have a look at SkinWalkerīs post a bit up and read it over a few times. He explained very will that discussion about peopleīs believe can pull em slightly over the edge when they are not supposed to. It isnīt always ment and people shouldnīt take everything that serious what happens around here. This is not a point to say you or the otherīs behaviour was good/bad but just something people should keep in mind.

As for the reason you were banned. In some cases your bevahiour was completely uncalled for. You tried to put TK on his place when all he was doing was his job. A thing you shouldnīt be doing. Secondly you followed Lynk to "his" section and harassed him over there what was completely unacceptable.

I donīt have any problems with you as you make really good posts towards the Battlefront community. But its just your behaviour that has to tuned a bit. Chill, donīt take everything so personal, try to be friends with people and youīll do just fine. ;)

ZBomber
08-19-2004, 03:33 PM
You went in RSN and started posting in LJ's thread saying "Spy on the people in Japan for me!!1!!1"

Just because something is closed doesn't mean you weren't warned.

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 03:35 PM
and when/if they get unbanned, do they now have a cutsom title despite their lack of posts?

and I find insanesiths sig offensive.

oh, and I wanted my title to be 'Rubber Banned' but it makes ****** when I try to type banned, whats the deal?

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 03:39 PM
For starters, I never harrassed Lynk, if you call what I posted to him harrassment, then I saw when you posted, 'Noob, Kill Yourself' harrassment ,and would say you should be banned. and I never said you were a jerk. I said if I got to know you, you probably would be one, simply because of the people you hang out with. (I may have called u a jerk, if I did, please quote it and post it here.)

and I was never wanred about the spy on japan for me thing. If I was warned by way of pm, I would have glsdly edited it out.

Pad
08-19-2004, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
and when/if they get unbanned, do they now have a cutsom title despite their lack of posts?

and I find insanesiths sig offensive.

oh, and I wanted my title to be 'Rubber Banned' but it makes ****** when I try to type banned, whats the deal?
When they get unbanned their title will exactly be the same as it was before the ban.

Noted.

Banned is a forbidden word as custom title. I think there are more but I have no idea what they are.

ZBomber
08-19-2004, 03:40 PM
This doesnīt exactly contribute to the thread ;)

~ Pad

El Sitherino
08-19-2004, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
I was nver warned for the Japan thing, it was closed rather quickly once I started rambling, and please tell my specific instances where I flamed and another when I harrassed. The hyprocrites are...Lynk and Jed. Maybe more, but I cant tihnk of them off the top of my head. when you followed lynk over the rsn, you were there for no other reason than to harrass him. Your constant anti-japanese comments and paranoid delusions are harrassment especially on a forum with high international users and are rather trollish, namely that stint on the old lady ninja in disguise. And your argument in the jar-jar thread just proves how obsessed you are with opposing people and provoking arguments that should not even take place.


posted by you yaeb
I am against ET because he acts like a jerk.

http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=133546


posted by you yaeb
Pad, I dnt know you, if I got to know you, I probably wouldnt like you either, but you never know
that's not very nice



I'll gather some more if you want. :)

ZBomber
08-19-2004, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
For starters, I never harrassed Lynk, if you call what I posted to him harrassment, then I saw when you posted, 'Noob, Kill Yourself' harrassment ,and would say you should be banned. and I never said you were a jerk. I said if I got to know you, you probably would be one, simply because of the people you hang out with. (I may have called u a jerk, if I did, please quote it and post it here.)

and I was never wanred about the spy on japan for me thing. If I was warned by way of pm, I would have glsdly edited it out.

First, that pic was to get you to just shut up because you were acting like an idiot. Apparently, you're the only one who took in in offence. However, a lot of people found many of your posts offensive.

And, I doubt you would have edited.

El Sitherino
08-19-2004, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
I was never wanred about the spy on japan for me thing. If I was warned by way of pm, I would have glsdly edited it out. yes you were, lynk posted a warning directly in the thread.
Originally posted by Lynk Former
yaebginn, you start screwing around with me here and I'll ban you. Understood?

sounds like a warning to me.

El Sitherino
08-19-2004, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
and I find insanesiths sig offensive.
what exactly is offensive about it?

ZBomber
08-19-2004, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by ZBomber
This doesnīt exactly contribute to the thread ;)

~ Pad

And this thread doesn't really have a purpose. :p He gave his opinion, I gave mine :xp:

Pad
08-19-2004, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
what exactly is offensive about it?
After reviewing it I agree. You say itīs offensive to you which makes me think about your age. People "can" join LF when they are 13 and last time I checked thatīs right in puberty where such thoughts are generated every split second.

Also note that such text can be found on various websites that are publicly viewable. Are you going on crusade to make them take it away. I think not. Personally I think you said that just to provoke.

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 04:22 PM
If I made my sig, 'Mods R Gay,' you'd be offended and make me chnage it, I'll continue once you confirm or deny this statement. oh, and it doesnt matter about age, I am offended to see someone say that sex was in anyway meant for babies to have it. (and if its not meant that way, then I can say that my idea says that mods are happy)

ZBomber
08-19-2004, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
I am offended to see someone say that sex was in anyway meant for babies to have it.

.....what? :eyeraise:

Mods R Gay would be insulting someone. Saying sex is not JUST for babies isn't insulting anyone, it's telling the truth.

El Sitherino
08-19-2004, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
I am offended to see someone say that sex was in anyway meant for babies to have it. (and if its not meant that way, then I can say that my idea says that mods are happy) .... you are very thick headed, the point was that sex isn't just meant to procreate anymore, but more about pleasure and enjoyment.

Originally posted by ZBomber
Mods R Gay would be insulting someone. only if used in a negative fashion, which going by previous posts from yaebginn one can only assume he means it negatively.

ET Warrior
08-19-2004, 04:27 PM
Well, I was going to say that saying mods r gay is a direct attack on mods....Siths sig isn't attacking anyone, it's just stating a point....but two people have already said that before me...so....er.....yeah. And you wouldn't be meaning mods are happy and joyful if you said we're gay. That meaning of gay has become outdated and is no longer in use.

ZBomber
08-19-2004, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
.... you are very thick headed, the point was that sex isn't just meant to procreate anymore, but more about pleasure and enjoyment.

only if used in a negative fashion, which going by previous posts from yaebginn one can only assume he means it negatively.

You know what I meant.... :p

Doomie
08-19-2004, 04:29 PM
Wait a minute... there is this guy, Crazy dog No. 3 i believe, that has 'Banned' as his custom title...


How is that possible?

El Sitherino
08-19-2004, 04:30 PM
he probably had it set to that before they made it a censored word for titles.

ZBomber
08-19-2004, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by Doomgiver
Wait a minute... there is this guy, Crazy dog No. 3 i believe, that has 'Banned' as his custom title...


How is that possible?

Or he requested it from an admin.

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 04:33 PM
I didnt start the jar jar argument, that was either u or ET, I forget. displaying how u act like jerks. I didnt follow lynk, I followed Redwing. I saw he was the mod of rpg forums, so I clickedo n his name and saw he posted in a thread called had to clean the room a bit. so I then saw lynk post there, so I posted as well, and went on to explore the forum. I was wanred abotu not screwing around with lynk, but lynk didnt post in the wedding thread. so I didnt screw around with him. and I said probably, not definitely, mostly because of who pad hangs out with. and if he is the love-parent of zbomber, (check out zbombers title) then hes probably someone I wouldnt like. you doubt, but dont know for sure. and no one else found it offense because it wasnt directed at them, it was directed at me.

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 04:36 PM
how would it be attacking? From what I gather from your guys posts in debates, nothing is wrong with being gay, so it wouldnt be offensive, just incorrect information. And dont know it means that before you told me, ok, I am telling you that my future sig, 'Mods R Gay' is saying that mods are happy.

ZBomber
08-19-2004, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
I didnt start the jar jar argument, that was either u or ET, I forget. displaying how u act like jerks. I didnt follow lynk, I followed Redwing. I saw he was the mod of rpg forums, so I clickedo n his name and saw he posted in a thread called had to clean the room a bit. so I then saw lynk post there, so I posted as well, and went on to explore the forum. I was wanred abotu not screwing around with lynk, but lynk didnt post in the wedding thread. so I didnt screw around with him. and I said probably, not definitely, mostly because of who pad hangs out with. and if he is the love-parent of zbomber, (check out zbombers title) then hes probably someone I wouldnt like. you doubt, but dont know for sure. and no one else found it offense because it wasnt directed at them, it was directed at me.

Actually, I get all my assness from Jed..... Pad is quite nice, and I'm sure he's having problems trying to not flame you for your ignorance.

ZBomber
08-19-2004, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
how would it be attacking? From what I gather from your guys posts in debates, nothing is wrong with being gay, so it wouldnt be offensive, just incorrect information. And dont know it means that before you told me, ok, I am telling you that my future sig, 'Mods R Gay' is saying that mods are happy.

Because we aren't stupid and we know what you are trying to say by putting that in your sig.

Go ahead, put it in your sig if you are so curious.

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 04:39 PM
thats flaming, calling me stupid. something one of you said I was banned for. and you wonder why I call you hyprocrites. and myabe Pad is nice, if I get to know Pad, and decide he is a nice guy, I will retract my statement and apologise for doubting.

El Sitherino
08-19-2004, 04:39 PM
you're right, there isn't anything wrong with being gay, but going by your past posts and your obvious stance on homosexuality, it obviously carries a negative attitude when you say it.

and please don't try to argue semantics with us little boy.

but by all means put it in your sig, I won't stop you.

Pad
08-19-2004, 04:41 PM
Itīs always someone other then you who did/start it wasnīt? :rolleyes:

And it doensīt matter who you followed to that thread. Heck, there is even nothing wrong with you posting in that thread. Itīs the WAY you posted it.
now hes bugging me on the battlefront forums. u should see him.
Think about it. And if it wasnīt ment, I advice you to think a bit longer about things before you post them.

And how do you know who I hang out with? It doesnīt mean Iīm mentioned in someone custom title I actually have something to do with him. For all I know, he could be a fan of mine.

And get your facts straight. This thread is why you were banned, the other one is about that "offensive sig".

El Sitherino
08-19-2004, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
thats flaming, calling me stupid. something one of you said I was banned for. and you wonder why I call you hyprocrites. and myabe Pad is nice, if I get to know Pad, and decide he is a nice guy, I will retract my statement and apologise for doubting. we're advising zbomber on changing his wording thank you. and also, you never included zed in your original arguments (I can do semantics too ;) )

ET Warrior
08-19-2004, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
I didnt start the jar jar argument, that was either u or ET, I forget.

From the Jar-Jar Thread

Originally posted by ET Warrior
His character is important, but I hate his VOICE. that high pitch squeeky voice makes me want to jam a pencil in my ear.

Originally posted by yaebginn
his character isnt even that important.


YOU started the debate there, for no real purpose :dozey:

ZBomber
08-19-2004, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
thats flaming, calling me stupid. something one of you said I was banned for. and you wonder why I call you hyprocrites. and myabe Pad is nice, if I get to know Pad, and decide he is a nice guy, I will retract my statement and apologise for doubting.

? I wish I knew what you were talking about..... why not give Pad a chance instead of just dissing him?

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 04:43 PM
but if a guy who hates americans calls me ' You American!' with a snarl, I wont be offended, because its ok to be an american. or if someone says, ' You republican!' they mean that as an insult, but I wont be offended. and but how do you know what I mean? You dont know what goes on in this mind of mine. I can think mods are happy if I like. and according to my way of reading your sig, insanesith, you think that sex was used for babies to fornicate, and I find that offensive.

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 04:47 PM
nice job editing it, 'preciate it. and I mentioned mods in general, try again. and bedcause I disagrre with you, that starts a debate, et? I dont think so. and pad, I dont get your last sentecne, this thread was created while I was banned, and the offensive sig thing hasnt been created yet.

ET Warrior
08-19-2004, 04:48 PM
you know what yaeb, you wanna put Mods R Gay in your sig? You go right ahead, we might miss having you around here when you get banned :dozey:

El Sitherino
08-19-2004, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
but if a guy who hates americans calls me ' You American!' with a snarl, I wont be offended, because its ok to be an american. or if someone says, ' You republican!' they mean that as an insult, but I wont be offended. and but how do you know what I mean? You dont know what goes on in this mind of mine. I can think mods are happy if I like. and according to my way of reading your sig, insanesith, you think that sex was used for babies to fornicate, and I find that offensive. ... you just love looking for trouble don't you?
My sig does not in any fashion incite the notion of sex with a baby, well it might if you have the IQ of a retarded eggplant. If you really want to say mods are happy, say mods are happy, no need to pull a semantics argument of gay means happy, you clearly have not meant it that way in the past. I do not know what's going on in your mind, but I can judge your attitude and terminology on previous posts by you, thus giving me some incite into your posting attitude and meaning.

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 04:51 PM
and why would I get banned?

btw heres another question- can a mod in another forum thats not a supermod ban someone in a different forum? I man enitrely different forums, like the jkforums and battlefront forums.

ZBomber
08-19-2004, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
nice job editing it, 'preciate it. and I mentioned mods in general, try again. and bedcause I disagrre with you, that starts a debate, et? I dont think so. and pad, I dont get your last sentecne, this thread was created while I was banned, and the offensive sig thing hasnt been created yet.


:dozey:

He means the topic of the thread is why are you banned.......

Doomie
08-19-2004, 04:53 PM
you think that sex was used for babies to fornicate, and I find that offensive.

Actually, he's saying that Sex isn't just meant to reproduce anymore (Was that the right word?), but in our modern society, has become a way to gain pleasure. That just comes with being intelligent and being able to feel pleasure: You want pleasure.

He's not saying that sex used to be done by babies, and that religious people still see it that way...

Come on, you knew that, didn't you? You just wanted to try and find a reason to discredit him, or not?

You've changed since you first logged on to these forums...

It's Rhett!

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 05:03 PM
I ahve changed. I mean, I got banned, for one.

ET Warrior
08-19-2004, 05:11 PM
bedcause I disagrre with you, that starts a debate, et? I dont think so.

Actually...yes. That's how debate is formed, I make a point, you disagree, I defend my point, you refute, and so on and so forth.

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 05:40 PM
but you and insanesith made it into a debate about reagan and clinton. Until I get responses from a few mods pms, I'm gonna stop posting for a bit.

El Sitherino
08-19-2004, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
but you and insanesith made it into a debate about reagan and clinton. bull, I didn't make it into a debate, I went in there when it already was. Kthxbai.

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 05:48 PM
my apologies, I often get you two confused.

ET Warrior
08-19-2004, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
my apologies, I often get you two confused.

It's because we have our hair cut the same way. We look alot alike :dozey:



And I didn't make that thread into a debate abour reagan, I took the debate you made in there and utilized it in the thread that was already debating reagan.

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 06:00 PM
Well, someone had to make it be about politics and stuff, I'll go back and check.

EDIT- it was alegis. he said something about Bush ordering the attack on Iraq. my mistake.

Pad
08-19-2004, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
Well, someone had to make it be about politics and stuff, I'll go back and check. Does it even matter? Threads arenīt exactly lineair. People have freedom in em when it stays in reasonable borders. Itīs called discussing things. ;)

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 06:08 PM
no it doesnt, few things really matter. and it was something we did not agree, on. so I foudn out so we could get back on the real subject. and from jar jar binks to politics isnt reasonable boundaries.

Darth Groovy
08-19-2004, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn


- can a mod in another forum thats not a supermod ban someone in a different forum? I man enitrely different forums, like the jkforums and battlefront forums.

Yes. In fact I have my finger over the button right now, as I read your ever increasing heart felt posts. :o

Jed
08-19-2004, 06:30 PM
- can a mod in another forum thats not a supermod ban someone in a different forum? I man enitrely different forums, like the jkforums and battlefront forums.

Answer: They can find a supermod to take care of a ban.

Rogue Nine
08-19-2004, 08:24 PM
yaebginn, if you put "Mods r gay" in your signature, you are not only violating several cardinal rules, but you're also making yourself a nice, juicy target. It's flaming. Strike one. You know very well that you do not use the term 'gay' to mean happy. You mean in a derogatory sense, indicative that homosexual people are inferior to straight people and are to be looked down upon. Strike two. Going back to something you said before, calling out Sith's sig as offensive. Yours is just as offensive. What if some kid who just hit puberty came on and saw your sig and the way you use the term 'gay'? You've just kicked yourself in the ass with your roundabout reasoning. Your sig would be just as offensive as Sith's, if not more. Not to mention that his is actually funny whereas yours is simply to incite conflict. Strike three.

A corollary to the last thing I said. You seem to tout yourself as some sort of moral authority. I read your posts in that awful "USA successor" thread and while you are entitled to your opinion, know that others are entitled to theirs as well. Many of the things that you've said can be construed as offensive and flaming, so don't go pointing fingers at people. And since you like the Bible so much, here's some 'Good Word' for ya: "When they kept questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, 'If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." (The Gospel of John, 8:7)

It is obvious that you say things just to get a rise out of everyone. You nitpick on little things and blow them out of proportion and when the mods tell you to settle down, you cry oppression and corrupt moderator. Your whole basis for being here now is to incite discord and stir up trouble. As such, you shouldn't really be surprised to find yourself banned again soon, should you keep up your warmongering ways.

Oh yeah and one final thing. "Mods R Gay" makes you sound like a 3rd-grade bully with a real bad case of AOLSpeak. Not the most attractive thing to be touting around in your sig, is it?

ZBomber
08-19-2004, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by Rogue Nine
yaebginn, if you put "Mods r gay" in your signature, you are not only violating several cardinal rules, but you're also making yourself a nice, juicy target. It's flaming. Strike one. You know very well that you do not use the term 'gay' to mean happy. You mean in a derogatory sense, indicative that homosexual people are inferior to straight people and looked down upon. Strike two. Going back to something you said before, calling out Sith sig as offensive. Yours is just as offensive. What if some kid who just hit puberty came on and saw your sig and the way you use the term 'gay'? You've just kicked yourself in the ass with your roundabout reasoning. Your sig would be just as offensive as Sith, if not more. Not to mention that his is actually funny whereas yours is simply to incite conflict. Strike three.

A corollary to the last thing I said. You seem to tout yourself as some sort of moral authority. I read your posts in that awful "USA successor" thread and while you are entitled to your opinion, know that others are entitled to theirs as well. Many of the things that you've said can be construed as offensive and flaming, so don't go pointing fingers at people. And since you like the Bible so much, here's some 'Good Word' for ya: "When they kept questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, 'If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." (The Gospel of John, 8:7)

It is obvious that you say things just to get a rise out of everyone. You nitpick on little things and blow them out of proportion and when the mods tell you to settle down, you cry oppression and corrupt moderator. Your whole basis for being here now is to incite discord and stir up trouble. As such, you shouldn't really be surprised to find yourself banned again soon, should you keep up your warmongering ways.

Oh yeah and one final thing. "Mods R Gay" makes you sound like a 3rd-grade bully with a real bad case of AOLSpeak. Not the most attractive thing to be touting around in your sig, is it?

Why aren't you an admin yet? :)

El Sitherino
08-19-2004, 09:03 PM
I want to have your children niner!

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 09:39 PM
For starters, Groovy, I said that arent supermods, please read closer. thanx to Jed for the answer. and now we come to rogue nine. oh, and thanx to zbomber for quoting it so I dont have to scroll all the way down.

1.Flaming eh? 'If you say yes, you are a f*cking ignorant bastard'- Lynk Former. Thats a direct quote from him in one of our debates. I said yes, by the way. I count that as flaming. You mods are a pretty bad example.

2. My hypothetical sig, right? The one I used as an example. Notice I didnt make it. But Insanesith still has his, and I think ET has the same saying in his. But I find it offensive. Yet he gets to keep it, while I cannot make my Mods sig without getting banned. Just because I am not on good terms with the mods. I assure you if InsaneSith made a sig that said Mods R Gay, you'd look the other way.

3. Ok, thats without sin, I never said I was without sin. In fact, what is that even supposed to do? You banned me. You cast the first stone, you drew first blood. You guys acted like jerks in debates, not me. You started it all.

and that would be the point, I would've reversed the R so it'd be like Toys R Us. I'd just highlight the r, flip it, and paste it into my sig.

and des[ite what many of you seem to believe, I dont hate mods. I respect alot of you, and the ones I dont like, I can count on one hand and still have a finger or two left over. that should be all for now.Heres the list of mods I dont like. (not in order)

1. ET Warrior, your a good forumer, but IMO, a bad mod.
2. Zbomber, we all saw this one coming. You are immature, and annoying.

Thats all for now. Jed, I am not fond of, but I dont hate him or anything. he's a decent mod, I particularly dont like him as a forumer, but as a mod, he's good and doesnt act like a jerk.

TK-8252
08-19-2004, 09:44 PM
ZBomber is not a Moderator.

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 09:55 PM
oh, thanx, my bad, I meant Lynk Former. oh, and if u guys dont want to argue with me, just dont post. I have a weakness for agruing. I see it as a sword fight with words. (I also like to sword fight) I can guarantee you, if you guys just be mature and dont post in response to this post I am curently posting, after rogue nines, cause hes probably posting something as I type. If after rogue nine, you dont post anything in this, I assure you it will die down. If you clsoe it , another will spring up. I wont create it ,but another will. almost definitely. so I'm telling you how to stop this argument, most fo you probably wont do it, but I'm tellign you how.

Rogue Nine
08-19-2004, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn

1.Flaming eh? 'If you say yes, you are a f*cking ignorant bastard'- Lynk Former. Thats a direct quote from him in one of our debates. I said yes, by the way. I count that as flaming. You mods are a pretty bad example.

You pick on Lynk an awful lot. I think someone has a crush on our little Aussie feller! :joy:

2. My hypothetical sig, right? The one I used as an example. Notice I didnt make it. But Insanesith still has his, and I think ET has the same saying in his. But I find it offensive. Yet he gets to keep it, while I cannot make my Mods sig without getting banned. Just because I am not on good terms with the mods. I assure you if InsaneSith made a sig that said Mods R Gay, you'd look the other way.

First off, Sith wouldn't do that because he's sensible. Second, you cannot have that sig for all the reasons I explained above. What part of that first paragraph didn't you comprehend? Perhaps I should speak slower and use smaller words. My apologies.

3. Ok, thats without sin, I never said I was without sin. In fact, what is that even supposed to do? You banned me. You cast the first stone, you drew first blood. You guys acted like jerks in debates, not me. You started it all.

Dude, it's our job. You stepped out of line, you got banned. YOU started it.

and that would be the point, I would've reversed the R so it'd be like Toys R Us. I'd just highlight the r, flip it, and paste it into my sig.

Uh...what? My relevancy detector is not coming on at all...

and desSo, by your logic, good forummer = bad mod. Hmm. Well then, going by your thinking, you'd make a pretty crap-ass one yourself, wouldn't you?[/color]

2. Zbomber, we all saw this one coming. You are immature, and annoying.

[i]You really have no place saying that. It's like the pot calling the kettle black.

Thats all for now. Jed, I am not fond of, but I dont hate him or anything. he's a decent mod, I particularly dont like him as a forumer, but as a mod, he's good and doesnt act like a jerk.

Wait wait, so Jed is the opposite of ET? How does this calculate? Bad forummer = good mod? Interesting theory you got there, mate.

*searches frantically for his 'English to yaebginn' dictionary*

I can't find it. :( I need a hug.

El Sitherino
08-19-2004, 10:05 PM
actually, I would never ever have Mods R gay in my sig, first, that's just stupid, second, I don't think they are "gay".
and no, I would be banned if I had it in my sig.

You have yet to prove any logical reason that my sig is offensive, your stint about it meaning sex with a baby was crap and totally illogical.


yeah man, it's always everyone elses fault. never yours. :rolleyes:


I wish you would have used your 3 day temp ban to grow up and mature, but sadly you have grown worse. If you don't stop, I'm afraid you may end up with a permaban, as much as I dislike you, I do not wish for that to happen as I am a fan of giving people chances to improve themselves. Sadly you are really making me push these beliefs to the limit.

*hugs niner*

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 10:09 PM
for starters, thats a pretty lame point to my first number. shows that you couldnt get anything to counter it. and once again, its circular. You say I got banned for what? flaming, lynk called me a bastard. for what? harrassing link? zbomber told me to kill myself. theres another thingu guys say I got abnned for, but I cant remeber. and for one, its not a theory, its different for everyone. I never said it was a theory. Some are good forumers and good mods, some are neither. You're the one who assumed it was a theory, your bad there. and I would probably make a bad mod, thats why when asked who I'd want to be a mod, I didnt include myself. but theoretically, if he did, you would look the other way. and sensible? check out his current sig.

EDIT- for one, it diod make me think, my thoughts that I display now are correct, and you just refuse to see them. just because they differ from yours, you think they are wrong. and I already told you how to stop this arguing so no one has to get banned (me meaning no one) but you obviously dont care, meaning despite what you said, you dont care whether I get banned. oh, and even u guys can admit, I bring some excitement to these forums. I have a good sense of humor, and a good mind fo debating and such, which is why every1 missed me when I was banned. 'where is yabyginn?' where is yaeb' I dont wanna get banned, but if I go down for my beliefs, then I go down as a martyr.

El Sitherino
08-19-2004, 10:15 PM
what do you have against me?
Is it that I have different opions? or what?

I have yet to see any plausible reason to find my sig offensive, I see no explicate language in my sig.

and no, they would ban me for putting mods R gay in my sig, because it is obviously a negative terminology. If I/you truely meant mods r happy, I/you would put that.


I suggest you just deal with the fact that you have no logical argument anymore. Your constant harrasment and provocation in threads incites ad hominem remarks, you ask for it, thus we can't necessarily blame anyone for it, but we try to make sure it doesn't happen. Sometimes people slip through the cracks. I find it odd you think a president doesn't have to be perfect yet a mod should.


yes, because being a martyr on the internet is such a big deal and such a courageous thing :rolleyes:

how courageous of you to anonymously stand up for your beliefs and suffer for them *rolls eyes*:rolleyes:

Dath Maximus
08-19-2004, 10:19 PM
is there any such thing as an internet martyr

but anywho, is there a point to this whole thread dedicated to your belly aching about how hard life is for you here at LF? personally, if I were being as abused as you say you are, I would have left a long time ago.

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 10:20 PM
what harrassment? please explain. how have I harrassed you guys? and your sig is offensive to me because it features subjects you shouldnt publically talk about. if you disagree, go to your mom right now and say whats in your sig. real loud. or maybe say it loudly at the supermarket. or to everyone you come in contact with. cause everyone you come in contact with on these forums sees your sig. and some are offended by it. if my mom looked over my shoulder and saw ur sig, she'd think less of you. she wouldnt know you, but what you broadcast, makes other, more mature people, think less of you.

EDIT- and my original point was to ask questions ,but once again, they made it into a debate. I said that I find insane siths sig offensive, and they made it into a debate, as they do with all my threads. republicans come here? normally a haven for republicans to check out some funny sites. usa successor? just asking which you think will lead next. think about it. and there is no important point in being a martyr online. but I'd rather be banned for that, then be banned for cussing, or posting porn. and it didnt always be like this. once Et and insanesith came onto these forums, all hell broke loose.

Dath Maximus
08-19-2004, 10:27 PM
as for the more mature people thinking less bit in your ohh so wisdom filled post. I'm getting the feeling that your mom is the only mature person in your house. Based on your posts, you lack the maturity level.

Speaking of maturity, I being a mature person with my own set of values can see how some can find sith's sig mildy offensive, but no where near as offensive as you are implying. And despite that, I also see how it is withing limits of how offensive it is. Its not graphic in anyway, it doesnt show poeple having sex. It simply says something, if you want, put sith on your ignore list so you dont see his pretty sig everytime you post. Otherwise find someone else to be a troll toward.

/edit
and just for your information, I'm a democrat

TK-8252
08-19-2004, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
what harrassment? please explain. how have I harrassed you guys?

Exhibit A (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=133694)

Originally posted by yaebginn
but what you broadcast, makes other, more mature people, think less of you.

I don't. But I guess that's because you are so much more mature than me. ;)

Rogue Nine
08-19-2004, 10:28 PM
Whatever. This is getting really friggin' ridiculous. It's pretty goddamn obvious that you're just going to keep disagreeing with us for the sake of disagreeing, just to stir up trouble. That's the bottom line. That's why you got banned. Can't remember that other thing? Ask Jed. I think he clearly outlined that for you.


And just shut up with all this 'martyr' claptrap. It's just a friggin' forum, for Chrissakes. You act like some poor, persecuted minority while you're nothing but a troublemaker.

Your thoughts differ from pretty much everyone's standard of sane, logical thinking. So it's not just me.

And believe me, this forum would be better off without you. No one needs you to be here to have fun and discuss things. And your sense of humor is pretty convoluted if you can't take jokes aimed at you. I could've easily rebut your statement about Lynk, but I decided to have a little fun. Whoops. Okay, here it is in plain English. You like to pick on Lynk because he called you a bastard. Whoopdeedo. That's pretty much the only flame argument you've got going for you. And it's piss poor too. You made him seem like he was just saying that out of spite when in actuality, you left out the background behind Lynk's statement. Convenient, eh?

I'm just sick and tired of this.

Bull**** you started this thread for questions. You started it to incite conflict, like you always do.

yaebginn
08-19-2004, 10:38 PM
TK, valid point. I meant in this thread, but its not what I said. and what other threads have I started to stir up conflict, rogue nine? please say. and rogue nine ,dont you normally go in the rs forums? yet you come here and bug me. but I got abnned for coming to rs forums and bugging lynk, but you can do what you please. another thing thats not fair. and if ur sick and tired of it, than leave. I already told u how to stop this, but no one listens. I dont have the strength to stop the arguing. its my weakness, but u guys have diferent wekanesses, so u can stop. you say you are more mature then me? prove it.

Rogue Nine
08-19-2004, 10:43 PM
I'm a moderator and I'm interested in Battlefront. That gives me every right to be here.

And why would I leave? Because of you? **** no. Been here too long, seen too many of your kind to let it faze me.

you say you are more mature then me? prove it.

Done.

TK-8252
08-19-2004, 11:01 PM
Aaaaaaaand... merged with the rest of this crap! We've got ourselves quite a showcase going here, eh?

Lynk Former
08-20-2004, 12:43 AM
1.Flaming eh? 'If you say yes, you are a f*cking ignorant bastard'- Lynk Former. Thats a direct quote from him in one of our debates. I said yes, by the way. I count that as flaming. You mods are a pretty bad example.

And this kids is how you take something out of context. I can't remember which thread it was in but I wasn't flaming or targetting you. I basically said if someone (an anonymous person with those characteristics) came upto me and expressed such ignorance I would say 'If you say yes, you are a f*cking ignorant bastard.' But according to you, I was flaming you. No I wasn't. I was expressing an opinion about unknown people who may be like that.

VanLingo
08-20-2004, 11:44 AM
P O W E R T R I P

TK, it's no wonder you were made a mod -- you're nose is the same color as Jed's skid marks!

This forum is an absolute wreck. And the fact that you decide to temp-ban someone just because you don't agree with them is total trash.
Yet puredemon runs free for weeks to junk up the Sliced Tauntaun with posts such as:
--http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=133539
--http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=133551
--http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=133550
--http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=133549

Yeah, sure, Jed and Lynk shut him down, but neither one of them are the Sliced Tauntaun mods. And there are three mods for that forum! Were any of them paying attention, or is the Mod Squad just a GURLZ ONLEE club that vacations for two weeks at a time?

There is spam everywhere you look (ex: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=133896) that goes unnoticed. The only threads that get moderated are the ones that are bold enough to say that our mods suck.

El Sitherino
08-20-2004, 11:58 AM
he wasn't temp banned because we disagree with him, we've stated why he was temp banned, please be quiet about it now.

Jed and Lynk are supermods, they survey every forum. They are also the ones called in when a banning is called for. Puredemon was a troll and a banning was called for, his threads closed and he was IP banned. Yaebginn harrassed TK in one of those threads even for doing his job, another reason he was temp banned.

"There is spam everywhere you look (ex: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthre...threadid=133896) that goes unnoticed. The only threads that get moderated are the ones that are bold enough to say that our mods suck."

it's not that the threads are shut down because you say mods suck, it's because you have poor arguments to support your claim and when we prove how we were doing are job you come back to making ad hominem remarks and pointing fingers at others.

As you can see that thread was closed down, you have to realize this is an international forum therefore the factor of time zones comes in, kthxbai.

and I see no sign of a powertrip.

All I see is your trollish remarks trying to form some form of a revolt against LF. If you find things so unfair why don't you leave? this is the advice you give to those that speak against america, why don't you do the same since you find it so horrible at these forums.

yaebginn
08-20-2004, 12:03 PM
whos this we? you arnet a mod, insanesith. and TK and Lynk just showed how mature the yare. Rogue Nine closed the thread to end the arguing ,then TK and Lynk just post while its closed so no one can reply besides mods, who are supposed to be mature, and I cant even ask Lynk to stop, because he is now ignoring my pms.

Pick me up a copy of asian fetish weekly when you come back.-Insane Sith

Thats a quote from what he said when Xirion was going. how is that any worse than me asking that married girl to gather intel from japan for me? both are inappropiate. but I get banned.

El Sitherino
08-20-2004, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
whos this we? you arnet a mod, insanesith. well before you said I was one of their romping buddies I figured somehow I was factored into this equation of suckage, my bad.

Lynk was late, he had to get his word in. Seeing as you took pretty much everything he said totally out of context. trust me I understand your frustration, but you have to understand if we take your opinions and wants into account and try to weigh them with others, we have to go against alot of your wants and opinions. We're like a government we take into account what's good for everyone, not just the ones that complain.

Plus this isn't a democracy, it's a harsh tyrannical dictatorship. :)

also, when I say we, I mean LucasForums in general.

what you were asking was anti-japanese and rude(not to mention racist). Suggesting someone to take intel on japanese.

and what I said was what we call a joke. A play on words, used to make people think "what could he possibly mean?"

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fetish

fetish

n 1: a charm superstitiously believed to embody magical powers [syn: juju, voodoo, hoodoo, fetich] 2: excessive or irrational devotion to some activity; "made a fetish of cleanliness" [syn: fetich]

SkinWalker
08-20-2004, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by VanLingo
P O W E R T R I P [...] TK, it's no wonder you were made a mod -- you're nose is the same color as Jed's skid marks! [...] is the Mod Squad just a GURLZ ONLEE club that vacations for two weeks at a time? [...] The only threads that get moderated are the ones that are bold enough to say that our mods suck.

Vanlingo, you have violated one or more rules of SWBattlefront.net. Consider this a warning to cease.

Originally posted by VanLingo
This forum is an absolute wreck.

If so, then it is one being perpetuated by posts and attitudes such as this one. Cease you hostile attitude in public with mods or be banned. Should you have legitimate grievances, utilize the PM function to alert Supermods or Administrators. Should you feel that resolution is not forthcoming, perhaps it would be best for you to discontinue your visits to LucasForums.

-SkinWalker

yaebginn
08-20-2004, 12:16 PM
you should leave, insanesith, you arent a mod, and you have no say in this argument. and you cant speak for lucasforums in general. and I didnt take what he siad out of context. despite what he said in his last post, it differs from what he really said. I was pretty much the only one on my side, and he said,' if you say yes' not if anyone says yes.

EDIT- the mods said they would ignore my PMs, I CANT use the function. and what rule did he break? please say. I asked the mods to meet me on AIM or on email, but they declined. They obviously dont wnat to take it private.

El Sitherino
08-20-2004, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by yaebginn
you should leave, insanesith, you arent a mod, and you have no say in this argument. and you cant speak for lucasforums in general. and I didnt take what he siad out of context. despite what he said in his last post, it differs from what he really said. I was pretty much the only one on my side, and he said,' if you say yes' not if anyone says yes. oh I believe I have plenty of say in this, you and vanlingo brought me into this in previous threads claiming me to be a romping buddy. And he wasn't talking about anyone in the forum but rather in real life he would say that to himself, thus not being a flame as it was not directed to you, kthxbai.

yaebginn
08-20-2004, 12:22 PM
he said, 'If YOU say yes' not , 'if anyone on the street said yes' and no you dont, you contribute nothing. you are the mods water boy.

VanLingo
08-20-2004, 12:23 PM
Vanlingo, you have violated one or more rules of SWBattlefront.net. Consider this a warning to cease.
Umm... which rule (or rules) would that be? Thou shalt not disrespect those in pseudo-authority?

And why would I PM the mods? PMs are just an Ignore Box. When I post, everyone sees what you have to say back. God forbid you have to be diplomatic about something. :rolleyes:
(Oh, no, I said "God"! I'm going to get banned by the Romans!)

FYI, the Report This Post links don't work. Click it -- you get a nifty little "Sorry. The email function has been disabled by the administrator."

El Sitherino
08-20-2004, 12:23 PM
jee, I'm sorry you think I contribute nothing. I obviously seem to contribute something since you "refute" my posts.
and I'm hardly their water boy, I'm more of their watchdog.

yaebginn
08-20-2004, 12:26 PM
call it what you will, insanesith

EDIT- and not refute, disarm. I simply correct the wrong in your posts. You say something incorrect, and I prove it wrong. call it what you will.

VanLingo
08-20-2004, 12:26 PM
I'm hardly their water boy, I'm more of their watchdog
Then why didn't you get to be a mod?

El Sitherino
08-20-2004, 12:31 PM
there were others that were better qualified than me. why do you care? I thought you hated me?

SkinWalker
08-20-2004, 12:31 PM
I recommend an Administrator (http://www.lucasforums.com/private.php?s=&action=newmessage&userid=1353) if you feel you haven't been able to air your grievances.

Regardless of your interpretations of the rules, they are violated and my warning stands.

Criticism of established authority is not against the rules, however, your clear insults are. Be critical without the ad hominem remarks or STOP posting in this thread. That goes to all sides of the issue and all posters.

yaebginn
08-20-2004, 12:34 PM
so if its not against the rules, why will he get banned for saying them? I mean, he hasnt insulted a mod any worse than mods or mod-cronies (zbomber, insanesith) have insulted me. but because they are your buddies, you just look the other way.

SkinWalker
08-20-2004, 12:39 PM
I haven't received any complaints about them, nor have I noticed any violations that have gone uncorrected when I asked them to do so.

My PM and email works fine. As does that of all the Admins.

This is a flamewar and a trolling expedition (this thread on this page), and is therefore clearly against forum rules. The warning was issued by me. It is to all that have posted on this page. Further continuation of the flaming/trolling is a violation of that warning.

You don't have to like it. You can send your grievance to the Administrator of your choice (i.e. Kurgan). I recommend being more civil when writing to them, however.

Kuuki
08-20-2004, 12:41 PM
No yaebginn, but for someone who has been here long enough, he DOES know the rules, and for that very reason he SHOULD be reconised as a role model as a respectable and a productive member in the LF community

indeed you could very well say that I have no business here either

you're wrong, its every member who follow the rules that are set, the right to get envolved and show any member who is NOT following those very same set rules in effort to prevent any future rule violations, and convert any unrespectful member into another role model member.

VanLingo
08-20-2004, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by SkinWalker
I haven't received any complaints about them, nor have I noticed any violations that have gone uncorrected when I asked them to do so.
Consider this a complaint.

My PM and email works fine. As does that of all the Admins.
So it's a choice not to respond...

This is a flamewar and a trolling expedition (this thread on this page), and is therefore clearly against forum rules. The warning was issued by me. It is to all that have posted on this page. Further continuation of the flaming/trolling is a violation of that warning.
I still don't know what trolling is.

You don't have to like it. You can send your grievance to the Administrator of your choice (i.e. Kurgan). I recommend being more civil when writing to them, however.
Nah. I don't see why someone with the title Super Moderator under their name can't do something about it.

It's the same here as it is on the phone with the mortgage company -- it's all about passing the buck.

TK-8252
08-20-2004, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by VanLingo
I still don't know what trolling is.

Hint: It's what you're doing.

Well, time to throw this thread in with the rest of the collection.

VanLingo
08-20-2004, 01:01 PM
Yet the feedback is met with defensiveness. That thread should not have been deleted.

I will make a discussion here for the non-mods to discuss what they think about the quality of board moderation. Mods have no obligation to defend themselves -- this will be a factual outlook at how these forums are maintained.

Discussion topics:
Can you believe anything the mods post?
Is temp-banning a defense mechanism?
Is the moderation team base on favoritism?
Is "mod discretion" clearly outlined in the rules?

TK-8252
08-20-2004, 01:04 PM
It was not deleted; it was thrown into the collection of locked showcase threads, as will this one.

VanLingo
08-20-2004, 01:06 PM
Heh. Tk's jumping on my legitimate posts just to impress his superiors.

Kurgan
08-20-2004, 06:59 PM
I agree that debates should be had in the Senate Chambers, it's a very good place to have them.

No, flaming people isn't a good idea, and flaming moderators is an especially bad idea (we have feelings too!).

No, moderators should not abuse their power, and especially not appear to be abusing their power to win debates. Far be it from any of us to do such a thing.

No, the censor is not perfect, and never will be, it's merely designed to cut down on some of the typical swearing that goes on. Ideally people shouldn't type swears at all when making conversation on the forums (what's the need for it, really? it adds nothing to arguments, only to flames, and blanked out we can "know what you intended" easily enough). When something slips out the basic censor should catch it.

Yes, moderators should try to set a good example (not always possible, but that's an ideal to shoot for). Just remember we're human too.

Yes, sending PM's and/or emails with complaints first before publically complaining is a good idea.

And yes, trolling is a bad idea. What is trolling? It's deliberately angering someone by say, posting flame-bait or acting stupid with the hope that they will respond with a flame. The goal of trolling is to upset people and encourage them to do stupid things. It just drags down everyone with the person doing the trolling, and is a waste of everyone's time.

Should moderators stay out of debates to avoid possible abuses? That depends on the moderator I guess. I like a good debate now and then myself, and I hate to think people assume I will use my "position" to win, rather than my debating skillz (or lack thereof). ; )

With great power, comes great responsibility, as a comic book character once said.

Suffice to say, moderators are not tiny gods, rather they are part of a collective of forum "leaders." So if a moderator is abusing his power, he's either doing it without the knowledge of his peers or against their wishes (and will be dealt with). I don't like to say this, but should such a thing occur, it's best to talk to another moderator or admin to see if this is really how they're supposed to act (assuming talking to the mod in question privately doesn't work out).

If one of us makes a mistake, call us on it, but try to do it in a tactful manner, so as not to start a fight. If you piss one of us off, it's harder to think rationally, since a person naturally gets defensive. And let's let bygones by bygones... Who really cares about an argument you had with somebody on the internet? Does it really change your life that much?

On the other hand, everyone should realize that people DO have feelings, and going out of your way to hurt somebody's feelings just makes you a jerk. Is that really such a noble goal in life? How would you feel if you were on the other end?
That said, people can't expect to just flame mods and get away with it, while looking cool in front of their friends. We've got feelings too, man!

And yes, I know I don't hang around here much (not until the game comes out anyway!), but I just had to comment.

Go in peace, y'all...