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Grishnakh
10-17-2004, 10:17 AM
I read somewhere that TSL would have a plot-twist even bigger than the one on the Leviathan. What if this plot-twist is that you're actually Revan again? That would be pretty funny:D and it would explain why the MC on all the screenshots has one of the faces from the old game.

lukeiamyourdad
10-17-2004, 12:11 PM
Uh no. There's no memory loss this time and it would be weird to not know you're Revan without memory loss.

And they just reused the old face models and added new ones. Doesn't mean anything.

RedHawke
10-17-2004, 09:09 PM
^^^^
lukeiamyourdad is absolutely right! :D

OE has confirmed on multiple occasions there will be no Brain Damage, Memory Loss or other memory ailments for the PC in TSL.

stingerhs
10-18-2004, 04:47 AM
ah, but the title of the thread is "what if", so on that note...

1. what if john kerry gets elected???

2. what if george w. bush gets elected???

3. what if kotor 2 gets its source code stolen and the release date gets pushed back indefinately???

4. what if tsl sucks???

5. what if tsl is rated 'm'???

6. what if the male pc falls in love with redheads, regardless (think straight here, folks :D )???

7. what if i kept asking what if???

just some thoughts...:D

Aleggy
10-18-2004, 05:02 AM
Originally posted by stingerhs
ah, but the title of the thread is "what if", so on that note...

1. what if john kerry gets elected???

2. what if george w. bush gets elected???

3. what if kotor 2 gets its source code stolen and the release date gets pushed back indefinately???

4. what if tsl sucks???

5. what if tsl is rated 'm'???

6. what if the male pc falls in love with redheads, regardless???

7. what if i kept asking what if???

just some thoughts...:D

stingerhs i mean this in the nicest way possible but it might be an idea for you to seek professional help :D :D

lmao @fiend

FiEND_138
10-18-2004, 05:05 AM
1.) We're screwed.

2.) We're still screwed.

3.) It'd be our luck....

4.) I got a box of molotav cocktails in the trunk of my car & a map to San Rafael Ca. (LA's offices ;))

5.) I'm 26. no big deal.

6.) Red heads are cool. I'd go into my reasons but kids visit this site. If it was a male redhead, you'd see a post over at HL begging the modders to correct this obvious oversight.

7.) I'd need to grab more coffee to keep my mind going at this late hour.

lukeiamyourdad
10-18-2004, 06:34 AM
1. Possibility of world peace. Then maybe not but Heinz ketchup might become the official Ketchup of the United States.

2. Every country except the US is nuked to oblivion...because they aren't 100% with him. France goes down first.

3. I will hunt down the one who stole the source code and will kill him and feed him to the dogs.

4. Impossible.

5. I live in Canada so I don't give a rat's ass.

6. If it was a male redhead I wouldn't care. I'm not homophobic. But yeah some people will want to correct that. even if there's nothing to correct.

7. Seek some professional help.

PoM
10-18-2004, 07:36 AM
Then lets get to the answers.

1: I dont care.

2: Sweet.

3: I would die.

4: I've read to much good things about it to think it does.

5: Im 12, and i dont care.

6: Red hair looks cool.

7: If you kept asking if-things you would stop it, you cant ask if things forever, can you?

8: ...Oh, no more questions? Good.

stingerhs
10-18-2004, 08:30 AM
dude, i'm being advised to seek professional help by TWO people now...

you guys are definately not the firsts, but thats okay...

besides, just tryna have some fun. :p

oh, and lukeiamyourdad, the real answer to #2 is...
we CARPET-NUKE every country except the US into oblivion.

:D

Grishnakh
10-18-2004, 09:35 AM
The only thing I've heard about the mc in TSL is that he/she is a veteran from the Mandalorian wars that has lost his/her mastery of the force (or something like that) and has to regain it throughout the game. Well Revan did fight in the Mandalorian wars, and isn't it part of the story that Revan dissappeared a few years before the start of the game? It was a huge surprise when you found out you were Revan in the first game so who knows what will happen?

And about the election, like 90% of the rest of the non-American world I really hope Kerry wins. I mean, does Bush really think invading every country that doesn't have democracy or that he suspects has nuclear weapons is gonna make the world safer?? If this guy isn't stopped he's gonna start world war 3, or at least make lots of people (including terrorists) even more pissed off at the US than they allready are.

And his wiews on American interior politics are just as bad, I can't see why it's fair that only the wealthy people and the ones who can afford it should get healthcare and the poor ones should just be left to die if they get sick, everyone who support that is just ****ing selfish IMO.

PoM
10-18-2004, 10:01 AM
we CARPET-NUKE every country except the US into oblivion.?

Err..Well, that sucks. I live in europe.

stingerhs
10-18-2004, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by TheKnife
we CARPET-NUKE every country except the US into oblivion.?

Err..Well, that sucks. I live in europe.

ah, so now we see why re-electing bush is a bad idea. of course, kerry isn't much better. i agree that his healthcare plan pwns, but it costs tons of money (approx. 654 billion us dollars). not to mention his stand on pro-choice doesn't jive well with me.

oh yeah, and the whole world would be safe from us if kerry is elected because he wouldn't be able to make up his mind on who to go to war with, assuming the us is threatened in any way.

but i'm sure you guys don't want my take on politics. especially since i'm quite an opinionated moderate. :p

RedHawke
10-18-2004, 10:06 PM
I see this thread has gone to the political birds... Isn't this supposed to be about KOTOR??? :confused:

Kerry?... Bush?... :eyeraise:

I'm thinking this thread is doomed to some imminent lockage! :lock:

FiEND_138
10-18-2004, 10:17 PM
What if.....

1.) What if it doesn't recieve the :lock: ?

2.) What if I think of a really good question to save the topic before the Left/Right flame war begins?

3.) What if I can't? Got any marshmellows for the said flame war?

;)

Agrees with RedHawke. C'mon people, save the talk of our enevitable doom at the hands of these 2 nitwits for the Senate Chambers over at jk.net.

RedHawke
10-18-2004, 10:20 PM
^^^^
Yup... I come here to have fun talking about our favorite Science-Fiction and not hear about peoples Political-Friction. :D

FiEND_138
10-19-2004, 12:36 AM
Yep. & theres a lot more in depth conversations over there, way more in depth than you'll get here, if thats what you people are looking for. & judging by where you're going it is.

Nice play on words Hawke.

[/Topic]Hmmm.... I'm not sure I'd like the idea of being Revan again (what if scenario), I'd call that lazy writting personally. It would be like OE were too lazy to create a new character/ original story & just went for the old stand by, if that makes any sence.

Hannibal
10-19-2004, 06:07 AM
I'm watching with the key in my hand...:halo2:

stingerhs
10-19-2004, 08:43 AM
hmm, didn't mean to get off into political discussion, but i'm in college where the professors talk about it 24/7. :fist:

anyway,
Originally posted by FiEND_138
Hmmm.... I'm not sure I'd like the idea of being Revan again (what if scenario), I'd call that lazy writting personally. It would be like OE were too lazy to create a new character/ original story & just went for the old stand by, if that makes any sence.

agreed. that would probably kill any kind of a contiuation of the kotor series, not to mention obsidian, because everyone would start to view them as unoriginal.

Cyborgninja
10-19-2004, 10:04 AM
I jus can't wait till it comes out and if it is M no big deal I will have my step sister pick it up for me

Aleggy
10-19-2004, 02:49 PM
i'm so glad we got to the topic of kotor as i like many others here are not from the U.S. so we not to bothered who gets elected no offence i'm sure that to the americans its very important but you dont see me coming on here saying i hope they dont elect Tony Blair again

umm oops now i've gone off topic. sorry

well i dont think ur gonna be revan but 'if' you are it'll be a let down but i'm looking forward to tsl

dark jedi 8
10-19-2004, 04:30 PM
i'm american and i dont care, but then again i'm not old enough to vote...

speaking of KOTOR2 i heard it comes out late december? hopefully in time for christmas.
anyway, that new xmen legends is pretty decent, i've heard good and bad about Fable, battlefront is pretty sweet, and xboxer's have Halo2 coming out Nov. 9 to pass some time until KOTOR2. all in all it should be a decent christmas. oh and how could i forget the highly likely possibility of the new ep.3 teaser attached to the previews of "the incredibles" in theatres Nov.5:D

DarthBuzzard
10-19-2004, 04:46 PM
KotOR2 comes out december for x-box
KotOR2 comes out february for computers.

And it would be lame to be Revan again, besides destroying the game it would destroy obisidan.

Achilles
10-19-2004, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by DarthBuzzard
And it would be lame to be Revan again, besides destroying the game it would destroy obisidan. ...and since Obsidian has plainly stated several times that your PC won't be Revan, I really wish people would stop bringing it up.

Good call, DarthBuzzard.

RedHawke
10-19-2004, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by FiEND_138
Nice play on words Hawke

:D

Originally posted by Achilles
...and since Obsidian has plainly stated several times that your PC won't be Revan, I really wish people would stop bringing it up.

Same here, it really is getting a little old. ;)

Just my 2 cents! :D

(But, we might be Revan again in KOTOR III: TWoR)

stingerhs
10-19-2004, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by RedHawke
(But, we might be Revan again in KOTOR III: TWoR)

now that would be something that i haven't heard about. care to eleborate???

RedHawke
10-19-2004, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by stingerhs
now that would be something that i haven't heard about. care to eleborate???

Ok... KOTOR III: The Wrath of Revan... and I just made that up. ;)

But it could happen! :D

stingerhs
10-19-2004, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by RedHawke
Ok... KOTOR III: The Wrath of Revan... and I just made that up. ;)

But it could happen! :D

Ha-Hah!! i knew it!!!

*scratches head and tries to realize what i knew*
:p

good idea, though. hmm, try the "jobs" section @ obsidian's website. you just might...

PoM
10-20-2004, 09:11 AM
Question: Who is this Kerry people are talking about?

stingerhs
10-20-2004, 09:25 AM
^^^^
*slaps forhead with his hand*

www.johnkerry.com

there, now lets cut it out with the politics. i get enough of it at the university. thanx. :)

Aleggy
10-20-2004, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by RedHawke
Ok... KOTOR III: The Wrath of Revan... and I just made that up. ;)

But it could happen! :D

wait something odd is happening

ok this is wierd i am having an odd sensation around my head

oh i know its an idea (sorry this hasnt happened in a while)

wrath of revan could work if they set it before kotor and you get to be revan on his rise to power

only problem with that is you wont have a light/darkside choice you'll have to be darkside and i know what you'll say redhawke as well as many others 'whats wrong with that' and what is wrong with that is the fact that what made kotor so great was being able to choose

but if they didn't make it a kotor title as such and made it a seperate game but let fans know how it was connected to kotor..... it could work

ok i have to stop now my head is hurting from all this thinking

aaaahhh my ears are bleeding :D

RedHawke
10-20-2004, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by Aleggy
aaaahhh my ears are bleeding :D

*Hands Aleggy some tissue for his ears.*

Anyway... you all know the whole KOTOR III The Wrath oF Revan was a joke right... off of Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan??? :eyeraise:

:D

lukeiamyourdad
10-21-2004, 05:25 AM
:eyeraise:

Ok sure mate...


Star Trek lover:fist: !

Aleggy
10-21-2004, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by RedHawke
*Hands Aleggy some tissue for his ears.*

Anyway... you all know the whole KOTOR III The Wrath oF Revan was a joke right... off of Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan??? :eyeraise:

:D

yeah i knew Redhawke but what can i say
i couldn't help myself :D

p.s. thankyou for the tissue

RedHawke
10-21-2004, 11:07 PM
^^^^
Youre welcome Aleggy! :D

Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad
:eyeraise:

Ok sure mate...

Star Trek lover:fist: !
What can I say, I love sci-fi! :D
-----------------------------------
Babylon 5
Star Wars
Stargate SG-1
Farscape
Battlestar Galactica
and Star Trek
------------------------------------
In that order of importance! :D

EDIT: Forgot One! :D

lukeiamyourdad
10-22-2004, 05:43 AM
What! Babylon5 is on top of Star Wars?!

YOU...HERETIC!!!

AAAAHHHHHH:lightning

Darth333
10-22-2004, 06:00 AM
Originally posted by RedHawke
^^^^
...
What can I say, I love sci-fi! :D
-----------------------------------
Babylon 5
Star Wars
.....
------------------------------------
In that order of importance! :D
Noooooo
How dare you to post this here? :( This is truly evil :D
I hope Kotor 3 will turn you from from the Dark side :D

Achilles
10-22-2004, 07:46 AM
^^^^

I kinda thought Redhawke was a little weird before, but I never imagined the condition was this advanced.

Come on, man: Star Wars has Yoda and Darth Vader. Babylon 5 has...Bruce Boxleitner :eyeraise:

Why, Redhawke, why?

:D

Aleggy
10-22-2004, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by RedHawke
^^^^
Youre welcome Aleggy! :D


What can I say, I love sci-fi! :D
-----------------------------------
Babylon 5
Star Wars
Farscape
Battlestar Galactica
and Star Trek
------------------------------------
In that order of importance! :D

i'd put them in this order

Star Wars
Farscape
Battlestar Galactica
Babylon 5
Star Trek


Star Wars rules :thmbup1:

0rlo
10-22-2004, 08:44 PM
this whole losing your touch with the force thing sounds lame. and if you have no mem loss then you'd know how you acquired the ebon hawk, though you might not start right off the bat with it. best thing to do i say is wait and see.

RedHawke
10-22-2004, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad
What! Babylon5 is on top of Star Wars?!

YOU...HERETIC!!!

AAAAHHHHHH:lightning
RLMAO!!!
Originally posted by Darth333
Noooooo
How dare you to post this here? This is truly evil
I hope Kotor 3 will turn you from from the Dark side
RLMAO!!! Nope! :D
Originally posted by Achilles
^^^^

I kinda thought Redhawke was a little weird before, but I never imagined the condition was this advanced.

Come on, man: Star Wars has Yoda and Darth Vader. Babylon 5 has...Bruce Boxleitner :eyeraise:

Why, Redhawke, why?

:D
RLMAO!!!

[Inquiry] How is poor Bruce Boxleitner any worse than Jake Lloyd or Hayden Christensen? :eyeraise:

:tsk: And you all should have guessed B5 would rate higher with me by my previous Avatar, my present Banner, and especially what I have for a location. :D

B5 is better than Star Wars to me for a couple of reasons, admittedly a lot of it is personal taste, but I love the story. And more specifically the whole Idea of the Shadow and Vorlon Bio-Technology it just pwns anything Star Wars could ever have (Ohhh the Death Star... Meh! It was impressive until around 1993).

It gets even more interesting if you combine the two story factors of B5 (Living Ships) and SW (Jedi/Sith and the Force)... look out!!! Could you imagine having and piloting a 'living' ship and be a Jedi or Sith at the same time, being able to channel and use the Force through your vessel as well, that would be very cool.

BTW, I know you all were just kidding! :D

FiEND_138
10-23-2004, 12:20 AM
...................or were they :eyeraise:




:D

RedHawke
10-23-2004, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by FiEND_138
...................or were they :eyeraise:

I think they were... thats what all the SEG's were for! ;)

Like yours FiEND and this one ---> :D

FiEND_138
10-23-2004, 12:47 AM
^^
Yeah, I was just playin...:D

[/Topic]
Originally posted by 0rlo
this whole losing your touch with the force thing sounds lame. and if you have no mem loss then you'd know how you acquired the ebon hawk, though you might not start right off the bat with it. best thing to do i say is wait and see.
Yes, the whole forgetting to use the force thing is getting a bit old; JO, K1 & it seems 2. But this is probably 1 of the things I most want to see how they explain, next to how the ending of K1 will work into & be adressed in TSL.

RedHawke
10-23-2004, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by FiEND_138
^^
Yeah, I was just playin...:D

:D
Originally posted by FiEND_138
[/Topic]

Yes, the whole forgetting to use the force thing is getting a bit old; JO, K1 & it seems 2. But this is probably 1 of the things I most want to see how they explain, next to how the ending of K1 will work into & be adressed in TSL.
Well you see OE has to have a reason (Good or Bad) for us to begin the game a newbie character at level 1. "You are a Jedi who lost their connection with the force," a line like this is an RPG classic, so OE really can't be held responsible for this, they are actually upholding RPG tradition with this beginning for TSL.

:D

FiEND_138
10-23-2004, 01:12 AM
^^
Yeah, I guess I mean more working it into the story.
Would it stem from just not using it (Yoda seemed to do alright being exiled in a swamp for 20 some years), amnesia (hopefuly & so far not), or something I'm too 'tired' to think of?

:guiness:

Aleggy
10-23-2004, 02:15 AM
RedHawke are you forgetting that in farscape moya is a living ship a race called the leviathons. and for me Star Wars pwns all because for me it inspired me from a very early age sure B5, farscape, battlestar galactica have great story lines but star wars... well what can i say i've always wanted to be a jedi and weld a lightsaber i cant say that any of the others have affected me in the same way sure B5 and farscape have given me a few laughs but so has Star Wars

so for me star wars rules :thmbup1:

p.s. i've heard they are going to do a mini series based on the star wars universe, i pray and hope it'll be good rather than some teen drama series based around the new jedi academy and all about love and coming of age of the new jedi plzzzz mr lucas this is the sort of thing us fans have been waiting for plzzzz dont muck it up plzzzz i'm begging you

FiEND_138
10-23-2004, 02:46 AM
*Joins in on the shameless begging*

Yes please, no Jedi Temple 902675 please!!!!
No 'This week Lal-Lal-Lal wants to go to the Padawan prom with Frank, but Frank wants to go with Jo-Jo-Lean. How will Lal cope? Stay tuned.' garbage, please!!!!!

:barf:

lukeiamyourdad
10-23-2004, 06:23 AM
It's 90210 not 902675 ;)

I have no idea why I remember that...

Star Wars is what got me into sci-fi.

RedHawke-I'm sorry. Now I will have to kill you :lightning

:D

Achilles
10-23-2004, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by RedHawke
:tsk: And you all should have guessed B5 would rate higher with me by my previous Avatar, my present Banner, and especially what I have for a location. :D Now I finally know what that is. Thanks!

RedHawke
10-23-2004, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by Aleggy
RedHawke are you forgetting that in farscape moya is a living ship a race called the leviathons.
No I didn't forget, and yes Moya is a living ship but Leviathans are not warships, and if you remember Talyn (The only armed Leviathan) was unique. So there is no comparison with B5's Living, and far more advanced, ships.
Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad
Star Wars is what got me into sci-fi.
RedHawke-I'm sorry. Now I will have to kill you :lightning
:D
*RedHawke, wrearing insulated skivvies, is unaffected by lukeiamyourdad's lightning attack*

*Still smouldering from lightning attack*
Hmm... Methinks Aleggy and lukeiamyourdad are a little defensively touchy when it comes to SW! :D
I never said SW was bad did I? It just will never be my number one favorite sci-fi, it also doesn't make me any less of a SW fan... I can still recite the lines of the OT with the best of em'. :D
Originally posted by FiEND_138
*Joins in on the shameless begging*
Yes please, no Jedi Temple 902675 please!!!!
No 'This week Lal-Lal-Lal wants to go to the Padawan prom with Frank, but Frank wants to go with Jo-Jo-Lean. How will Lal cope? Stay tuned.' garbage, please!!!!!
:barf:
:rofl: RLMAO!!!

Agreed! Please we don't want to see anything like this!!! ;)

*Still laughing* Thats a good one FiEND! :D
Originally posted by FiEND_138
^^
Yeah, I guess I mean more working it into the story.
Would it stem from just not using it (Yoda seemed to do alright being exiled in a swamp for 20 some years), amnesia (hopefuly & so far not), or something I'm too 'tired' to think of?
Well the whole losing your connection to the force is rather a 'classic' way of beginning an RPG, but it is still a tolerable one, but I'm an old-school RPG player so it doesn't bother me as much.

As OE has stated our PC in TSL will not have any mental/memory afflictions so they are going to need some simple RPG explination for our being 1st level at the stories beginning. Hence OE has provided us with one... "we have lost our connection to the force" so we can begin play at level 1.

Most fantasy RPG's do something similar, you always start out with memory loss or you are a vetran that has lost his skills from disuse (Do these 2 sound familiar) or you are an inexpirienced wanderer who arrives at the town looking for adventure, or you are a commoner thrust into a perilous quest or things along these lines... oh and these RPG story beginnings are a good excuse to start you off pretty well broke too.

I suspect OE will give us an explination of why the force has left us, it will probably factor into the TSL stories beginning pretty heavily... at least I hope it does. :D

OfficerDonNZ
10-24-2004, 11:35 AM
I'm prolly going to get linched for this but......

Here is how I'd rate them

Farscape/B5
Star Wars/Battlestar Galactica

and somewhere at the very bottom....
Star Trek/BG 2003 mini

:D

Seriorsly tho I do like my Star Wars. I think its the whole Jedi thing :) But as far as TV sci-fi go Farscape and B5 rule the roost.

Aleggy
10-24-2004, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by OfficerDonNZ
I'm prolly going to get linched for this but......

Here is how I'd rate them

Farscape/B5
Star Wars/Battlestar Galactica

and somewhere at the very bottom....
Star Trek/BG 2003 mini

:D

Seriorsly tho I do like my Star Wars. I think its the whole Jedi thing :) But as far as TV sci-fi go Farscape and B5 rule the roost.

i wont lynch you although a thought has accured to me and its making my brain hurt so i gotta tell someone and your all the lucky people (well sort of) star wars has a slight dissadvantage as it actually isnt a tv series where as the others on the list are, yes i know battlestar galactica has done fims to but new and old have been turned into tv series

as a tv series i think farscape rules because it's unconventional and it breaks all the rules, as far as nice sci fi tv series go

as a film star wars rules the very existance of these forums after the OT being around for over 25 yrs kinda means i dont really need to say why :D

Ragnos
10-26-2004, 12:17 PM
If the character in TSL is the only good force user left and you decide to go bad in the game, wouldnt the jedi order be lost forever?
Or if you answer the questions about what happend in the previous game so that Revan didnt turn bad, isnt he a good force user to then? :)

Cant wait for february!:D

PoM
10-29-2004, 11:52 PM
Hey...Never thougt of that.