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TK-425
10-23-2004, 04:54 PM
Hi.
Question, how many BlasTech E-11 blaster hits would it take to kill a jedi?

swphreak
10-23-2004, 05:21 PM
uhhh... it really depends....

If the Jedi has a lightsaber, I doubt any bolts would get through, and you'd lose your trigger finger.

A single blaster shot will injure any Jedi, and a headshot will most likely kill 'em too.

mr.piercy
10-23-2004, 09:59 PM
one straight into the groin wood disorientate them lol

Shok_Tinoktin
10-23-2004, 10:45 PM
According to the EU, some Jedi have the ability to absorb blaster shots. Otherwise, it is pretty much the same as a non-Jedi. The only acception, is a shot that may kill you over time. The Jedi would probably be able to last longer, and have a better chance to get help (like bacta or a med droid or something).

RedHawke
10-24-2004, 12:20 AM
It would take as many shots as it takes, though a Thermal Detonator is much more efficient for this kind of job. :D

mr.piercy
10-24-2004, 10:31 PM
are u saying that if a Jedi is hit, with a powerful laser blast, which is aimed right into his or her groinal area, that the will ABSORB IT????? LOLO LOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOO OMG LOLOLOLOL



i wish i could bl00dy do that lolololol:p :p :p :eek: :evanpiel:

RedHawke
10-24-2004, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by mr.piercy
are u saying that if a Jedi is hit, with a powerful laser blast, which is aimed right into his or her groinal area, that the will ABSORB IT?????
According to WEG D6 PnP Star Wars RPG the power is Absorb/Dissapate Energy. And yes you could take a blaster shot to the groin and it would be able to absorb it, pending your characters Control Dice, of course. :D

Shok_Tinoktin
10-24-2004, 11:31 PM
According to JA it is called Protect, but it only reduces the damage. Of course, that is mostly because of the requirements of gameplay. In such novels as I, Jedi and an NJO book (don't remember which one for sure, but I think it was Dark Tide: Ruin), some force users such as Darth Vader and Corran Horn are able to absorb the damage completely.

mr.piercy
10-25-2004, 02:33 AM
>ok i understand<

now a question>>>

in empire strikes back vader 'absorbs' han's shots in his hand. now is that becos it is just vader's robot hand, OR, is it a force related thing???

Shok_Tinoktin
10-25-2004, 03:02 AM
According to I, Jedi (implyed at least) it is a force power. However, his armor can deflect lightsaber hits (as seen in ESB), so it is reasonable to assume that it could stop a blaster shot. So to answer your question, I dont really know.

TK-425
10-25-2004, 03:58 AM
Stormtrooper armor is extreamly powerful.
So it would stand to reason that Darth Vaders armor would be even more powerful being the Emporers apprentice and being the most feared and powerful person in the galaxy.

*Yoinked*
10-25-2004, 07:01 AM
One thing though, if it is so powerful, then why do they drop like flies when Leia shoots them with her girly pistol, ehhh??

-Adam G

TK-425
10-25-2004, 07:21 AM
To tell you the truth its not such a girly pistol. Blasters are VERY powerful as you see in ANH when Han blasted torso sized chunkes out of the wall with his small DL-44. Stormtrooper armor is powerful but genneraly speeking nothing but an energy shield or a wall can defend against a blaster unless you deflect it as Vader did.

swphreak
10-25-2004, 08:31 AM
Stormtrooper armor isn;t that strong. A close up blaster shot (like Leia) will most likely penetrate the armor. A blaster shot from a distance can possibly be deflected/absorbed (It depends on what weapon was used). The armor can undoubtfully stop projectiles (like spears and ROCKS), but unfortunately, Stormtrooper armor does not make a stormtrooper less of a pussy when fighting killer teddy bears.

TK-425
10-25-2004, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by StarWarsPhreak
Stormtrooper armor isn;t that strong. A close up blaster shot (like Leia) will most likely penetrate the armor. A blaster shot from a distance can possibly be deflected/absorbed (It depends on what weapon was used). The armor can undoubtfully stop projectiles (like spears and ROCKS), but unfortunately, Stormtrooper armor does not make a stormtrooper less of a pussy when fighting killer teddy bears.

True to a point.
"Armour Characteristics: A stormtrooper's suit performs as both body armour, NBC suit, and combat aid. It would be best to examine these functions separately.

A stormtrooper's body armour capabilities are very impressive. According to the SWVD, the hardened white shell is virtually immune to corrosion (very important considering the fact that corrosive gas grenades exist), and it can resist any hand-held projectile weapons. In fact, we learned in "Rebel Dawn" that stormtrooper armour is so well made that it commands a high price on the black market, which is why Han Solo was smuggling stolen armour for profit. Not once in any of the three original films did we see anything penetrate the hardened armour apart from a direct hit with a blaster bolt, although the rubberized flexible joint sections were obviously not quite so strong (numerous stormtroopers were killed by arrows to the flexible neck covering in ROTJ, and Leia killed one with a shrapnel hit to the wall behind him, taking advantage of that same small weak area). The novel "Lightsabres", from the Young Jedi Knights series, contains a sequence of events which helps demonstrate the mechanical strength of stormtrooper armour:

"Qorl stood inside the training chamber holding a wicked-looking spear in his black-wrapped left hand. His droid replacement gripped the gleaming shaft with enough force to dent the metal."
...
"He cocked his droid arm back - and hurled the deadly weapon ..."
"Norys slammed into the wall, his helmet ringing against the hard metal bulkhead. His vision sparkled with impending unconsciousness."
...
"He looked down at his chest in amazement and saw only a nick in the white armor where the spear had struck."
Qorl's droid used its superhuman strength to throw a spear with such great force that it lifted a man off his feet and hurled him against a nearby wall. It should be noted that we have no materials in real life that can be manufactured in lightweight thin plates and yet retain such strength against deformation or cracking. Moreover, no real-life assault rifle fires projectiles with anywhere near enough momentum to throw a man around like a rag doll, so this means that stormtrooper armour is basically impervious to present-day small-arms fire (not to mention the shrapnel that is ejected by anti-personnel weapons). A real-life soldier would have to score direct hits with concussion grenades or use a very heavy tripod-mounted gun in order to kill a stormtrooper through his armour (contrast this with Federation soldiers, whose pajamas wouldn't be of much use against an M-16). Blaster bolts are much too powerful to block, but by blocking shrapnel, a stormtrooper's armour ensures that the enemy must score a direct hit in order to kill the man inside.
The NBC protection of stormtrooper armour is just as important as its physical strength. According to the SWVD, a stormtrooper's armour is the product of millenia of refinement in personal combat protection equipment, and it affords the wearer complete protection from a wide variety of threats, such as extreme temperature variations, the vacuum of space (albeit only briefly), radiogenic fallout, nerve gases, and biological agents. The observed characteristics of the armour are consistent with this description. The armour seems to be based on a black, rubber-like "body glove", upon which the white armour plates are bonded. When Han Solo and Luke Skywalker had their helmets off in ANH, we could see that the suit extended all the way up to the neck, and the SWVD's helmet diagram labels a "hermetic auto-seal" around its base, which is obviously designed to form an airtight seal around the suit's neck collar. Furthermore, when a stormtrooper speaks, his voice sounds tinny and distorted, as if it is electronically reproduced or otherwise filtered. It does not sound like he's simply speaking through a barrier, and it does not appear as if this electronically filtered voice reproduction can be turned off in favour of direct speech (even Han Solo and Luke Skywalker communicated that way en route to the Death Star detention centre). This is generally indicative of a sealed helmet." -Curtesy of www.stardestroyer.net

Also the rocks used by the ewoks wher larg the concussion would have been very bad and I think ewoks are very strong also wich would add to that concussion. A strong little creature throwing a three foot rock at you even though your armor is strong would give you a bad headacke because of your head rattleing around in your helmet. Things like that could break bones.

Lieutenant_kettch
10-25-2004, 08:53 AM
i believe stormtrooper armor was designed to DEFLECT shots, not absorb or protect against a DIRECT hit.

Stormtroopers are a good bunch of soldiers. Very good in fact. However, there is no matching the power of the Ewoks. how many groups of people do YOU know that can capture Han, Luke, R2, C3PO and Chewie ALL AT ONCE??? Nobody else has done that. They sprang en excellent trap!!! amazing, isn't it?

TK-425
10-25-2004, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by Lieutenant_kettch
Stormtroopers are a good bunch of soldiers. Very good in fact......They sprang en excellent trap!!!
100% correct!

mr.piercy
10-26-2004, 12:10 AM
storm troopers r the bread and butter of the empire!!!

Lieutenant_kettch
10-26-2004, 11:50 AM
hehe, imagine how powerful stormtroopers would be here on earth...

lhow about, imagine how powerful ANYTHING in SWU would be here on earth

mr.piercy
10-28-2004, 03:05 AM
yes, even a jawa cood kill the entire US ARMY with his little ion gun lol na probally not but .... dw.:jawa :p

Lieutenant_kettch
10-28-2004, 07:06 AM
i mean, a tie fighter would wreak havoc on any aircraft we have here, let alone the damage anything with shields or more firepower or more speed... a squadron of TFs could probably rule the world

mr.piercy
10-30-2004, 03:36 AM
yer ur right

*Yoinked*
10-30-2004, 07:13 AM
1 Squadron of Dark Troopers= hell on earth

Astrotoy7
11-12-2004, 06:12 AM
I dunnio about Blastechs but Jango pops about 3 shots at a Jedi in AOTC that seem to spell his doom :)

mtfbwya

TK-8252
11-12-2004, 08:46 PM
Stormtrooper armor is most handy for protection from combat hazards like explosions, debris, etc. When we see massive internal explosions on the Death Star, Stormtroopers are engulfed in explosive blast, but they're getting up uninjured from an explosion that could hospitalize an unprotected person.

It doesn't seem to do anything to protect against direct blaster shots, but remember that most all blasters used to kill Stormtroopers were military-issue blasters, or top-of-the-line models. Han's DL-44 heavy blaster pistol is arguably the most dangerous blaster pistol in the galaxy. Leia's royal blaster pistol had enough power to blast a Scout Trooper clear off his speeder bike and down a hill. The standard Stormtrooper's E-11 blaster rifle is a very powerful blaster rifle. Look at the four-inch-thick holes it puts in walls. It had enough power to blast poor R2 across the Endor bunker's doorway and make Stormtroopers fly back three feet when hit directly in the chest.

Remember the armor serves as a "terror" weapon. What would you rather fight: a squad of wimpy Rebel Troopers as on the Tantive IV, or an elite squad of faceless Stormtroopers?

Plus, look closely when a ship is floating into a Death Star hangar. Outside, below the hangar, we see Stormtroopers out in the middle of space! One was even using a fusioncutter, which makes me think the technicians wear Stormtrooper armor when they need to work on the outside of the Death Star. Stormtrooper armor protects against the vacuum of space. Very cool little feature.

Notice that whenever Ewoks took down Stormtroopers, they were suprise attacks in huge numbers. Sure, they knocked down a few Stormies, but what happens when they get up, eh? You can bet those Ewoks got their asses blasted off-screen. :)

TK-425
11-14-2004, 07:31 AM
Notice that whenever Ewoks took down Stormtroopers, they were suprise attacks in huge numbers. Sure, they knocked down a few Stormies, but what happens when they get up, eh? You can bet those Ewoks got their asses blasted off-screen. :) :lol:

darth_nemisis
11-14-2004, 03:17 PM
Well, as they said above, it depends if the Jedi has a lightsaber. It also depends on who the Jedi is.

Doomie
11-19-2004, 11:18 PM
And about the TIE fighters ruling the Earth: TIE fighters have no deflection shields, and minimal weapons. It'd be easy to take down a squadron wiht out modern fighter planes...

Now TIE advanced, that's another story...

Shok_Tinoktin
11-20-2004, 12:03 AM
I dunno about that. Do we have weapons that are fast enough to hit a TIE-Fighter?

Evil Dark Jedi
11-20-2004, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
I dunnio about Blastechs but Jango pops about 3 shots at a Jedi in AOTC that seem to spell his doom :)

mtfbwya

Yeah but I am thinking that the jedi was an apprentice cause he just jumped up and didnt really care about his protection. A jedi can be overwhelmed by a large number of blaster weidling enemies and they can also be taken down with a thermal det or alot of people with vibroblades.

boinga1
11-27-2004, 03:19 PM
Not this again!
Coleman Trebor (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/colemantrebor/index.html)

Astrotoy7
12-04-2004, 06:47 AM
Originally posted by boinga1
Not this again!
Coleman Trebor (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/colemantrebor/index.html)

I dont think anyoen is contesting the fact that Coleman got his leathery hide fried that day on Geonosis :D

mtfbwya

Kurgan
12-12-2004, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by Lieutenant_kettch
hehe, imagine how powerful stormtroopers would be here on earth...

lhow about, imagine how powerful ANYTHING in SWU would be here on earth

http://strategy.jediknight.net/trooperarrested.jpg

TK-8252
12-12-2004, 04:50 PM
Two can play this game!

http://www.legionxxiv.org/stmardigraslarg/stcophandsup.jpg

Kurgan
12-12-2004, 05:08 PM
http://strategy.jediknight.net/jamtroop_sm.jpg

TK-8252
12-12-2004, 05:11 PM
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/bingo275/mem03jawa1.jpg

Kurgan
12-12-2004, 05:16 PM
http://strategy.jediknight.net/pokeytroop_t.jpg

TK-8252
12-12-2004, 05:22 PM
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/bingo275/gregsandy3.jpg

Kurgan
12-12-2004, 05:34 PM
http://strategy.jediknight.net/storm_trooper.jpg

TK-8252
12-12-2004, 05:42 PM
http://www.combey.com/tjwlm-pg/jpeg-images/angry-stormtrooper.jpg

Kurgan
12-12-2004, 05:46 PM
http://strategy.jediknight.net/swtrooperchick.jpg

TK-8252
12-12-2004, 06:05 PM
Heil Kurgan. *Salute* :)

Jan Gaarni
12-12-2004, 10:33 PM
I'm ..... speechless. :D

Astrotoy7
12-13-2004, 02:41 AM
Nice to finally know what you look like K :p :p

mtfbwya

swphreak
12-13-2004, 04:31 AM
Shame she couldn't be in Leia slave costume...

TK-425
12-15-2004, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by TK-8252
http://www.combey.com/tjwlm-pg/jpeg-images/angry-stormtrooper.jpg
TK, I never knew you met Kurgan!

Kurgan
12-16-2004, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by TK-8252
Heil Kurgan. *Salute* :)

*Returns salute*

Well, that was fun. ; )