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Leper Messiah
10-29-2004, 07:59 AM
what it is that turns Anakin to the dark side in episode 3? I always thought it would be the death of Amidala but i was discussin it last night in the pub with a dude and he reminded me that Leia mentions that she remembers things about her mother so i dont see how she can die (immediatly anyway)

Lorden Darkblade
10-29-2004, 08:35 AM
I dont think it is known yet.
Unless someone has details, we will have to wait till May 2005 :( :cool:

El Sitherino
10-29-2004, 11:24 AM
it's just one day he wants some sex after he knocks up padme and she tells him no and he's like "it's obi-wans fault" and then we see the battle with obi.

And he becomes vader.

jon_hill987
10-29-2004, 11:27 AM
she does die, leia is remembering her adoptive parents

Actualy I can't back that up but its what I think.

Boba Rhett
10-29-2004, 11:32 AM
Yes, she dies at some point but that's not what makes him go dark.

Leper Messiah
10-29-2004, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by jon_hill987


Actualy I can't back that up but its what I think.

no in ROTJ i think it is Luke asks her about her specifically about her real mother

Leper Messiah
10-29-2004, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by Boba Rhett
Yes, she dies at some point but that's not what makes him go dark.

well what else is there that he gives enough of a damn about that would turn him. i hope its not a ROTJ job whereby he has a conversation with Palpatine and hey presto hes evil

Boba Rhett
10-29-2004, 11:58 AM
I'm not sure yet but it's supposed to be something really big.


...killing his father, perhaps? :brow:



All just speculation, of course. :D

*Yoinked*
10-29-2004, 12:24 PM
Speaking of his father maybe Grievous is his father

Boba Rhett
10-29-2004, 12:33 PM
Naaaaw, the General actually has a pretty small part. Plus he's an alien. :p

Neverhoodian
10-29-2004, 12:33 PM
WARNING: Possible spoiler ahead. I don't really know how Anakin will specifically fall to the Dark side, but I've heard of this speculation:

There are numerous allusions, particularly in the Return of the Jedi novel, to the event when Anakin fights Obi Wan. It's hinted that the duel takes place over a volcano or a pool of lava. Anakin falls into the molten rock and Obi Wan, most likely believing him dead, leaves. Anakin manages to survive somehow, but has to wear a life support suit and a breathing apparatus just to stay alive. This life support system is the black armor he wears when he's Darth Vader.

However, it's not known if that's what actually happened, as the wording is very open ended and can easily be taken figuratively rather than literally. I would imagine that things may very well turn out differently if Lucas has been thinking it over for the last twenty-five years. Still, it's an interesting depiction of Anakin's fall. My guess is that there will probably be more events similar to slaughtering the Tuskens in Episode II, which, combined with the possibility of Padme's death, eventually comes to a head when the great duel between master and apprentice commences. You don't just turn evil overnight; the path to darkness usually takes the gradual "slippery slope" route.

This is purely speculation on my part. And please...DON'T TELL ME IF I'M RIGHT! I want to be suprised when I see Revenge of the Sith in theaters.

Leper Messiah
10-29-2004, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by Neverhoodian

This is purely speculation on my part. And please...DON'T TELL ME IF I'M RIGHT! I want to be suprised when I see Revenge of the Sith in theaters.



I know that the allusions exist as to what happens when Obi Wan fights Anakin but the only one ive been able to find is in the novelisation of Return of the Jedi, when Vader is dying he remembers lava on his back or somethin like that. is there more than that on what happens?

Does that mean Anakin becomes Darth Vader before being put into the suit?

I was thinking maybe being put into the suit might have been part of the reason for his falling to the dark side

jon_hill987
10-29-2004, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by Leper Messiah
no in ROTJ i think it is Luke asks her about her specifically about her real mother

yes but she didn't know she was adopted it was all a big secret

Boba Rhett
10-29-2004, 01:30 PM
He falls to the dark side before the suit but becomes known as Vader after the suit. And I'm pretty sure that Leia did know she was adopted.

Leper Messiah
10-29-2004, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by jon_hill987
yes but she didn't know she was adopted it was all a big secret

when was it revealed to her that she was adopted then? im sure she knew

Leper Messiah
10-29-2004, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by Boba Rhett
He falls to the dark side before the suit but becomes known as Vader after the suit. And I'm pretty sure that Leia did know she was adopted.

surely as a sith he would be known as Darth Vader anyway, suit or not

Boba Rhett
10-29-2004, 02:38 PM
I dunno. From all that I've heard, he's not called vader till he's got the suit on. Even Lucas has said no suit, no vader.

GothiX
10-29-2004, 02:47 PM
You know, an entire topic in spoiler tags is fun. *jumps on bandwagon*

Leper Messiah
10-29-2004, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by GothiX
You know, an entire topic in spoiler tags is fun. *jumps on bandwagon*

My real name is not Leper Messiah!!

Spider AL
10-29-2004, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by Leper Messiah:

My real name is not Leper Messiah!!If you continue to severely shock us like that Leper, you may have some cardiac arrests on your hands. :p

Leper Messiah
10-29-2004, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Spider AL
If you continue to severely shock us like that Leper, you may have some cardiac arrests on your hands. :p

how can there be cardiac arrests on my hands, there are no hearts there :p

*Yoinked*
10-30-2004, 03:49 AM
This topic is off subject, oops, i spolied it, good thing this is in a spoiler :D

CapNColostomy
11-01-2004, 01:32 AM
There are entire sections of LF dedicated to Episode III spoilers

Sivy
11-01-2004, 02:42 AM
Is Anakin Darth Vader before the suit?
"Yes."
this is from this thread http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=139056 where you'll find plenty of Ep III spoilers

Boba Rhett
11-01-2004, 02:54 AM
You must have missed the part where Darth Darthy posted, "And as it turns out Griffen (man who posted these spoilers) was lying and hasn't seen the film at all. DOH!"


:(

Sivy
11-01-2004, 03:29 AM
i hadn't seen that... :(