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Leper Messiah
11-02-2004, 04:39 PM
Dear Mr Moore,

I write to request that in the event of a John Kerry victory in the presidential elections, that we might have the benfit of the peace and quiet that would come from your shutting up and going home.

I am not a supporter of President Bush, I would like to see him voted out, but I could also do without films like Farenheit 9/11 based on the same kind of distortions of the truth that you so loudly accuse Bush of perpertrating.

You seem to have abandoned the once rational and well thought out standpoint put forward in your previous publications in favor of ranting and raving about how much you dislike dubya. So I ask you for the favor that should President Bush be elected out, and your dream come to fruition that you depart the public scene and never darken the political stage with your presence again.

IG-64
11-02-2004, 04:41 PM
Amen XD

El Sitherino
11-02-2004, 04:50 PM
how about you quit being such a fascist and shut up. He has a right to do this, noone is forcing you to watch his movie. To put it simply,

*my picture you sluts!*
:)

no offense, can we still be friends?

ET Warrior
11-02-2004, 04:51 PM
Agreed. If you don't like his movies, don't watch his movies. He has every right to make them.

IG-64
11-02-2004, 04:53 PM
Yeah, he has his rights.

I never watched his movie but I am annoyed at people who do watch it and say it's true.

Jed
11-02-2004, 04:56 PM
Then be annoyed at the people.

Let the fat man make his goddamn movies. Just don't support it.

DarthBuzzard
11-02-2004, 04:57 PM
Let him make his movies...no one is forcing you to watch them...hello, its a Republic/Democracy in the U.S..

ET Warrior
11-02-2004, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by IG-64
I never watched his movie but I am annoyed at people who do watch it and say it's true.

And I am annoyed at people who never watched his movie but decided that it was blatantly untrue because of some unkown reasoning. ;)

the_raven_03
11-02-2004, 04:59 PM
He uses facts and just does a good job in presenting them in a good way to try and get his message across.

RoxStar
11-02-2004, 05:12 PM
Have you EVER seen Bowling for columbine.

Bowling for Columbine was an awakening for gun control and shocked me as I was watching it.

EDIT: @ ET, I should always check IMDB first.

ET Warrior
11-02-2004, 05:16 PM
Supersize me wasn't Michael Moore, it was Morgan Spurlock :dozey:

Rogue15
11-02-2004, 05:20 PM
he's evil. must.....kill.....evil.....persons......

El Sitherino
11-02-2004, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Rogue15
he's evil. must.....kill.....evil.....persons...... *waits for you to shoot bush and cheney*

Sabretooth
11-02-2004, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by Rogue15
he's evil. must.....kill.....evil.....persons......

*waits for you to kill every single living thing in this world, starting with your yourself*


Im with IS. He has right to do it. You have a right to not watch it. Let's Party!

obi
11-02-2004, 05:35 PM
He looks like Shrek :(

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/oscars/75th_academy_awards_luncheon_photos/michael_moore/lunch.jpg

http://www.andrewsavory.com/blog/archives/images/shrek.jpg

wassup
11-02-2004, 05:39 PM
obi, now that I come to think of it, you look like Shrek...in the jolly, green way, of course.

:)

Sam Fisher
11-02-2004, 05:42 PM
Bleh, he hides when someone looks for him.

He's a sissy when it comes to the consequences of his actions.

El Sitherino
11-02-2004, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by Sam Fisher
Bleh, he hides when someone looks for him.

He's a sissy when it comes to the consequences of his actions.
huh?

Leper Messiah
11-02-2004, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by Dave Grohl
Have you EVER seen Bowling for columbine.

Bowling for Columbine was an awakening for gun control and shocked me as I was watching it.


originally posted by Leper Messiah
You (Moore) seem to have abandoned the once rational and well thought out standpoint put forward in your previous publications in favor of ranting and raving about how much you dislike dubya.
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originally posted by ET Warrior
I am annoyed at people who never watched his movie but decided that it was blatantly untrue because of some unkown reasoning

ive seen farenheit 9/11, and it doesnt match up to his other efforts. whereas Dude Wheres My Country had an entire chapter dealing with the opposing point of view, Moore does not address counter arguments at all in Farenheit 9/11, and he holds up things, like (as ive mentioned elsewhere) the poor of america forming bulk of the troops in Iraq, as some sort of conspiricy where none exists. One of the any problems I have with that film....

ET Warrior
11-02-2004, 06:29 PM
I was only countering IG-64's statement. I'm aware you've seen it.

Sam Fisher
11-02-2004, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
huh?

You remember that time when there was that big public showing of F 9/11 that Bush when to? Well, it all turns out that Moore "can't come" because of other pressing concerns.

I think standing up for a movie I made is a little importent, no?

Elijah
11-02-2004, 06:45 PM
If he has his right to make his movie, Leper has his right to say what he feels like, and I have the right to agree that Moore is an idiot and was best portrayed in Team America as a Fat drunken idiot. He is Also a liar and a Hypocrite.

Joe©
11-02-2004, 06:49 PM
moore won't talk to sean Hanedy...
dos'ent want to get his ass beat... :p

PR-0927
11-02-2004, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
how about you quit being such a fascist and shut up. He has a right to do this, noone is forcing you to watch his movie. To put it simply,

*my picture you sluts* :)

no offense, can we still be friends?

Word.

:fett:

Joe©
11-02-2004, 06:59 PM
majin what the hell is with the boba head?!?! no offense...

Sam Fisher
11-02-2004, 07:02 PM
Its just his...trademark or something I think.

Kain
11-02-2004, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
how about you quit being such a fascist and shut up. He has a right to do this, noone is forcing you to watch his movie. To put it simply,

:)

no offense, can we still be friends?

I'm with ya brother...except for still wanting to be friends.

TiE23
11-02-2004, 08:15 PM
Werd


TiE

narfblat
11-02-2004, 09:16 PM
The problem with Micheal Moore is he's very making the truth into lies. 59 Deceits (http://www.davekopel.org/terror/59Deceits.pdf)

Elijah
11-02-2004, 09:38 PM
ooohohohohoh I suspect an "omg thats all lies because its a right wing author omgomgomg" but its ok and truthfull when its a left wing author... let the hypicricy cometh.

El Sitherino
11-02-2004, 09:51 PM
not really. But so what if he put spins on facts in his movies? is it harming you?

Elijah
11-02-2004, 10:11 PM
No, it is harming the other people in the country who believes his lies.

El Sitherino
11-02-2004, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by ZDawg
No, it is harming the other people in the country who believes his lies. how so? are they getting some sort of brain cancer? You should alert the CDC.

Elijah
11-02-2004, 10:24 PM
A lie spreads like cancer, altering the thoughts of ones mind, and over time, forces them to believe something that is untrue. so yes, it is causing cancer.

El Sitherino
11-02-2004, 10:34 PM
so then all politicians are guilty of causing a cancer. Most especially the Bush administration. :)

Elijah
11-02-2004, 10:38 PM
If bush had told half the lies kerry had. Bush isnt the one who changes standards in order to win.

El Sitherino
11-02-2004, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by ZDawg
If bush had told half the lies kerry had. Bush isnt the one who changes standards in order to win. Kerry has hardly flip-flopped. I find it funny you buy into the Bush BS but hardly give any room for Moores twists.

Elijah
11-02-2004, 10:58 PM
Kerry voted for the war, than told bush it was the wrong choice, thats just one of many of his flip floping crap

El Sitherino
11-02-2004, 11:06 PM
no. he voted to give bush the power to take troops to war, but only as a last alternative. Pay attention to what people say and do -_-

also, you do realize there are other things assigned to a bill right? things that don't have to do with the main part of the bill, you have to vote for the entire bill. So see if you don't like 1 thing in the bill you vote no. You like it all you vote yes. If kerry is guilty of "flip-flopping" so is EVERY SINGLE senator.

Alegis
11-02-2004, 11:35 PM
Ace pic tie.

I love posting this website

www.bowlingfortruth.com
It's a collection of all evidence against bowling for columbine and F9/11.

because MM's "defence" (http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bowlingforcolumbine/wackoattacko.htm)on this sucks monkeyballs.

MM uses cheap tricks, lies etc. Screws everything.

SkinWalker
11-02-2004, 11:37 PM
If Kerry pulls it off in this election (which, at 2:12 am CST is looking very slim), then I hope Moore continues to hold the President accountable. A Kerry administration would be as fair game for Moore as a Bush one. Assuming that they f*** up even partially as much.

But I find it fascinating that the right-wing nutters get all worked up and call "foul" when the left-wing nutters are harshly critical of their conservative pantheon of gods they call politicians. They bitch and moan about how someone like Moore is a fat liar and quote the well-rebuked "59 lies of F9/11" site verbatum without doing any of their own research. Then pick up their cellphones and call in to Rush Limbaugh (or some other am radio deity) and offer their "mega-dittos" and tough-talk in a ritual of ego masturbation, citing the ignorance of anyone who dares be critical of a draft-dodging conman that still appears to be pulling the wool over the eyes of a little over half of America. The ignorant half, no doubt.

If Bush wins this one, I can only hope that he doesn't screw it up for the next Republican who might actually be worth voting for. But by then, all the followers that currently refuse to consider that they might actually be misled (or vote only because they think a single person can influence grandiose issues like abortion or gay marriage) will be burnt by the mismanagement of the nation and the ever increasing death toll on our sons, brothers and fathers in Iraq as well as the fact that Bush & co. have to date failed to deliver on their claim to "make America safer" from terrorism. If anything, its more dangerous. AssWipes like Bin Laden need idiots like Bush to encourage increased membership in their terrorist organizations.

To all those pundits of Bush... his followers... be careful what you wish for.

El Sitherino
11-02-2004, 11:39 PM
a lot of the things on bowling for truth are crap too.

also, tie, remove my kimono girl from your pic, please.

Alegis
11-03-2004, 02:12 AM
Seems rogue did it already
Originally posted by InsaneSith
a lot of the things on bowling for truth are crap too.

Naturally, but please inform me then of those specific crap things since MM seems to fail in that.

Astrotoy7
11-03-2004, 03:40 AM
Michael Moore is one white man I like :) and since when has anything in a documentary, news article been 100% unbiased....

I dont live in the US but from Bowling For Columbine it seemed Mike and those kids were successful in convincing K-Mart to stop selling ammo.... If that is actually true, then thats freakin awesome....

mtfbwya

Leper Messiah
11-03-2004, 04:09 AM
dont mistake me with a Bush supporter or a right winger in any way, my point is that Micheal Moore's recent effort was full of crap.

Originally posted by InsaneSith
how about you quit being such a fascist and shut up. He has a right to do this, noone is forcing you to watch his movie. To put it simply,

:)

no offense, can we still be friends?


Originally posted by Kain
(quoting InsaneSith's above post)
I'm with ya brother...except for still wanting to be friends.

as to Sith's comment, I believe this comment by ZDawg is ample response:
Originally posted by ZDawg
If he has his right to make his movie, Leper has his right to say what he feels like

Others said i shouldnt watch/read Moore if i think he's full of crap. Well (apparently unlike Mr Moore these days) I like to keep myself informed as to whats going on. Ive also been quite careful to state that its only his recent work I have a problem with. people keep holding up Bowling For Columbine, a film with no relevance to my point since im discussing the recent work of Moore.

As for Kain's comment, try to be a little less childish. Im not your friend anymore indeed...

toms
11-03-2004, 05:32 AM
I wasn't so keen on the f9/11 film, but he has every right to keep on making those films.

Consideing the amount of hate and scrutiny every one of his films comes under it isn't surprising things turn out to be exagerated, or ignored or plain mistakes. If ANY of the stories in the paper was subjected to that amount of scrutiny it would probably have just as many errors in it. It just isn't possible to check EVERYTHING in great detail yourself, you sometimes just have to take people's word for things.

I'm always amazed by the sheer volume of hate this guy produces... which surely must be a sign that he is hitting close to the mark in a few places (even if he misses in others). Unfortunately his "quick soundbyte style" editing does throw up a lot of problems of balance and simplification.... but if he made dull in-depth documentaries then no one would watch them at all... he has to strike a balance between entertainment and fact.
That said, i think you could almost attibute a lot of the turnout and renewed interest of young voters to him stirring things up and getting people interested in what is going on.... Looks like not everyone agreed with him, but at least it might have made them think...

And in a country where both parties are very similar, very corrupt and very right wing... and the media is very right wing... it is kind of nice to know there is someone (even if it is someone annoying) running around and trying to stir stuff up. imho.

LightNinja
11-03-2004, 07:30 AM
Originally posted by Leper Messiah
Dear Mr Moore,

I write to request that in the event of a John Kerry victory in the presidential elections, that we might have the benfit of the peace and quiet that would come from your shutting up and going home.

I am not a supporter of President Bush, I would like to see him voted out, but I could also do without films like Farenheit 9/11 based on the same kind of distortions of the truth that you so loudly accuse Bush of perpertrating.

thats what Moore dont cares, he dont care if republicants get ofended by the movie so ha, ha, haaa. Ops!, you are not republicant, you just want Bush win... althought unfortunatly we will have to see his stupidities this next 4 years because of the ****load of ignorant people in america who has voted him.

narfblat
11-03-2004, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by LightNinja
thats what Moore dont cares, he dont care if republicants get ofended by the movie so ha, ha, haaa. Ops!, you are not republicant, you just want Bush win... althought unfortunatly we will have to see his stupidities this next 4 years because of the ****load of ignorant people in america who has voted him. You can't call someone ignorant just because they disagree with you.
Can I call you ignorant because I don't like the way you spell "offended" or "oops?"

Rogue15
11-03-2004, 09:03 AM
heh only 17% of the youth of the nation voted. 'we are we are the youth of the nay a tion!' XD

LightNinja
11-03-2004, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by narfblat
Can I call you ignorant because I don't like the way you spell "offended" or "oops?"
you can cuz im not english so i dont care till it is understood and i call them ignorant because many people just voted him because they like him more than kerry and things like that, also, what had Bush offers better than kerry ones? that he will ultraprotect america attacking other countries? anyway this dont care anymore.

stingerhs
11-03-2004, 09:47 AM
^^^^
from what i've seen in my university, and at the polls, most of them were quite ignorant of the issues, and thus decided they had better things to do on their day off from classes. of course, i'm almost proud to be among those 17%....

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of course, to express my views on farenheit 9/11, i think it was a well done movie, even if i don't like the views he expressed in that movie.

Redwing
11-03-2004, 10:30 AM
I dunno, LOTS of young people voted in my area (Orange and LA counties). All I've been hearing today is discussion of the election.

That's why California went Kerry, I guess ;)

Louis: I had that tune stuck in my head all day yesterday. :D

Kain
11-03-2004, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by Leper Messiah
As for Kain's comment, try to be a little less childish. Im not your friend anymore indeed...

O NO3S!!!1111 TEH UBER McTallca fan r spltful ab00t Ka1n and dun wanbe fwend n0 m03s!!!!111oneeleveone1!!

Shmuck.

This whole election ruined my god damned week. And to think, OHIO of all places is what ****ed it up. WTF IS OHIO!!!

edlib
11-03-2004, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Redwing
Louis: I had that tune stuck in my head all day yesterday. :D
Maybe I should add it to my current playlist:

"Here Comes President Kill Again" - XTC
"It's The End Of The World As We Know It" - REM
"Political Science (Let's Drop The Big One)" - Randy Newman
"Two Minutes To Midnight" - Iron Maiden

:indif:

Pie™
11-03-2004, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by edlib
Maybe I should add it to my current playlist:

"Here Comes President Kill Again" - XTC
"It's The End Of The World As We Know It" - REM
"Political Science (Let's Drop The Big One)" - Randy Newman
"Two Minutes To Midnight" - Iron Maiden

:indif: Oooh, i wanna do that too!

Nightwish - Planet Hell
Myrkskog - Indisposable deaths
My Dying Bride - The Cry of Mankind
Immortal - Withstand The Fall Of Time
Nine Inch Nails - Big Man With A Gun
Sonata Arctica - False News Travel Fast


I could go on forever... -_-;

[edit] Type O Negative - World Coming Down
Ministry - No W

GothiX
11-03-2004, 11:58 AM
Dimmu Borgir - Progenies of the Great Apocalypse comes to mind.

TiE23
11-03-2004, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
a lot of the things on bowling for truth are crap too.

also, tie, remove my kimono girl from your pic, please.
*confused* :confused:

TiE

MaulerZ
11-03-2004, 03:16 PM
*cough*Clickster (http://www.fahrenhype911.com/)*cough*

edlib
11-03-2004, 04:20 PM
Here's another one I just added:

"The Idiot Bastard Son" - Frank Zappa

Leper Messiah
11-03-2004, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by LightNinja
thats what Moore dont cares, he dont care if republicants get ofended by the movie so ha, ha, haaa. Ops!, you are not republicant, you just want Bush win... althought unfortunatly we will have to see his stupidities this next 4 years because of the ****load of ignorant people in america who has voted him.

oh dear. i thought i had made it sufficiently clear im against Bush and his party but apparently not

narfblat
11-03-2004, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by LightNinja
you can cuz im not english so i dont care till it is understood and i call them ignorant because many people just voted him because they like him more than kerry and things like that, also, what had Bush offers better than kerry ones? that he will ultraprotect america attacking other countries? anyway this dont care anymore. I was kidding about the spelling thing. I doubt Bush's average supporter is any less informed than Kerry's average supporter. I'm sure there are just as many people who voted for Kerry just because they liked him more than Bush. What many people don't understand is that Kerry voted to approve the use of force. When this is brought up, Kerry says he approved but we should have waited for more allies. What would waiting have accomplished? The people who didn't join us would never have joined, because they were selling illegal stuff to Iraq. Sadaam may not have had WMD's, but he certainly had weapon labs and materials that were forbidden by the treaty written at the end of the previous Iraq war. In that war, Iraq attacked Kuwait because of a petty squabble on oil prices. Basically, we put Iraq on parole, and then enforced the terms of that parole.

Astrotoy7
11-04-2004, 03:46 AM
Originally posted by Kain
This whole election ruined my god damned week. And to think, OHIO of all places is what ****ed it up. WTF IS OHIO!!!

he he he.... first Drew Carey, now Bush....

THANKS OHIO !!! [angry sarcasm]

mtfbwya :D

Kain
11-04-2004, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
he he he.... first Drew Carey, now Bush....

THANKS OHIO !!! [angry sarcasm]

mtfbwya :D

YOU STILL GAVE US STEVE IRWIN!!!:mad:

ET Warrior
11-04-2004, 08:26 AM
But they also gave us Paul Hogan...

"That's not a knife....THIS is a knife"

El Sitherino
11-04-2004, 11:53 AM
and Nicole Kidman :emodanc: *pelvic thrusts*
:D