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Darth Groovy
11-11-2004, 12:13 AM
This is the place to meet and discuss any information that any of you might know about the upcoming X Box 2.

As of this posting, all I know is that Microshaft plans to release a new and upgraded X Box. Details are scetchy, and news is quite hard to find.

On the official X Box site, there is currently no information on the X Box 2 to be found whatsoever, but there is PLENTY of rumours, as the the validity of any information, what can I say?

http://www.themanipulation.com/images/welcomer.gif

I have found a very interesting image, but nobody is certain if this is real or just something thrown together by clever tricksters:

Supposedly according to an anonymous scource who submitted information to engadget.com, this is what it looks like:


http://www.weblogsinc.com/common/images/3463704370424561.JPG?0.5898756681936006
http://www.weblogsinc.com/common/images/6821595414083573.JPG?0.8816574834581683

Here is the article that follows:
We’re not sure if these are legit or not, but an anonymous tipster who claimed to be a part of a focus group for the upcoming Xbox 2 sent us some questionable screengrabs of two of the “logos and console designs being considered for the next generation Xbox system” (that quote according to the focus group material we saw). We’d send ‘em back to the drawing board if it we were in that focus group, but supposedly they’ve got more cooking—it’d be pretty foolish if they didn’t—so we’ll see.

So that being said, does anyone know/heard anything else?

My chief concern, is will X Box follow Sony's lead and make old games compatible with the new system?

Evil Dark Jedi
11-11-2004, 12:15 AM
Wow those pics look awesome. I think the Xbox 1 games should be compatible with Xbox 2.

OFF TOPIC:

Hehe I like your location Groovy.

Darth Groovy
11-11-2004, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by Evil Dark Jedi
Wow those pics look awesome. I think the Xbox 1 games should be compatible with Xbox 2.

OFF TOPIC:

Hehe I like your location Groovy.

Thanks, I like your sig, where is that from again?

Evil Dark Jedi
11-11-2004, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
Thanks, I like your sig, where is that from again?

Ep 3 game trailer.

Sabretooth
11-11-2004, 12:20 AM
:drop2:
Sleek-o-mania!

Boba Rhett
11-11-2004, 12:22 AM
I think it's going to be hard to get it to be backwards compatable seeing as how the Xbox 2 will be utilizing flash ram instead of a harddrive but who knows I guess. It sure would be great if it did play Xbox games.

Evil Dark Jedi
11-11-2004, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by Boba Rhett
I think it's going to be hard to get it to be backwards compatable seeing as how the Xbox 2 will be utilizing flash ram instead of a harddrive but who knows I guess. It sure would be great if it did play Xbox games.

I see what you mean.

Darth Groovy
11-11-2004, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by Evil Dark Jedi
Ep 3 game trailer.

Let's hope that the Ep 3 game breaks the curse of the film based games being total failures.

Remember these:

Episode 1: (had it on playstation, I liked it, but it got horrible press, and had some bugs that pissed me off at times, still managed to clear it, and enjoyed the process)

Epidose 1 Racer: (this game I enjoyed, but I can only race for so long. Some times I put it on again.)

Jedi Power Battles: (Playstation version totally sucks, GBA version makes it a scrolling platform beat em up, and it works!)

Star Wars Demolition: (fine example of a game that came too late for it's time. It came out during a time when most people got tired of playing Twisted Metal vehicular combat games, and moved on to more complex games like Metal Gear Solid. Didn't take long for this to wind up in the cheap bin. Not a bad play, but it looses it's replay value in about five minutes tops.)

Episode II: (made for GBA, not one positive comment in any review I read)

Star Wars: Obi-Wan: (most people hate it, I have not played it, so I cannot say. Seems that die hard fans get a kick out of it, but mostly due to it's second market price.)

The Clone Wars: (christ, that game really does suck, it's like a Twisted Metal game, but not as fun, got really boring way too fast.)

Darth Groovy
11-11-2004, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by Boba Rhett
I think it's going to be hard to get it to be backwards compatable seeing as how the Xbox 2 will be utilizing flash ram instead of a harddrive but who knows I guess. It sure would be great if it did play Xbox games.

And THIS is the thing I hate about consoles. Every couple of years, upgrades mean new games, and an entirley new system. THAT is why I gave up on Nintendo. Once they launched the 64 series after only a few brief years of the Super NES, I had had enough. I enjoyed my Playstation all the way up until last year, when I sold most of my games, and my portable PSONE. I still have my original, but sold most of the games. Maybe I should have bought a ps2, but I liked playing the XBOX the best. :(AND THEY HAD NINJA GAIDEN, nobody else did)

Evil Dark Jedi
11-11-2004, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
Let's hope that the Ep 3 game breaks the curse of the film based games being total failures.

Star Wars: Obi-Wan: (most people hate it, I have not played it, so I cannot say. Seems that die hard fans get a kick out of it, but mostly due to it's second market price.)



I like Obi-Wan and I have finished it. The last mission is the best though. The Battle Royal jedi match. The best.

Yeah Ep 3 game should change it.

Boba Rhett
11-11-2004, 01:12 AM
All copies of Obi Wan should be rounded up, burnt, have their ashes placed in very large, very thick vaults and buried in the meadowlands where a group of monks shall be formed and set up a monastary over the burial site in hopes that their ever constant vigilance and mighty prayer keep at bay the evil powers that brought forth such putrid filth.

Sivy
11-11-2004, 01:19 AM
breathe Rhett, easy now. that's a 64 word sentence... anymore and we'll have to get the hose.

:D


i saw a picture of a PS3 the other day in a magarzine... it looked good.

Evil Dark Jedi
11-11-2004, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by Sivy
i saw a picture of a PS3 the other day in a magarzine... it looked good.

Can you describe it? Id like to hear or see what it looks like.

Sivy
11-11-2004, 01:38 AM
http://home.btconnect.com/hgi/ps3/ps333.jpg

this isn't real, but its the closest thing to the pic i saw.

Evil Dark Jedi
11-11-2004, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by Sivy
http://home.btconnect.com/hgi/ps3/ps333.jpg

this isn't real, but its the closest thing to the pic i saw.


Though it aint real still pretty sweet.

Mike Windu
11-11-2004, 02:58 AM
Microsoft would be killed by thousands of angry mobs that can't play Halo 1 and or 2 on their new XBOX2. Myself included.

Dirty bastards!:p

BCanr2d2
11-11-2004, 03:32 AM
Any real surprise that all of a sudden flash memory cards support FAT32, with the development of XBOX2 well under way????

That was it's "thing", no hard drive this time, but many GB size mem cards

Leper Messiah
11-11-2004, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy


Supposedly according to an anonymous scource who submitted information to engadget.com, this is what it looks like:


http://www.weblogsinc.com/common/images/3463704370424561.JPG?0.5898756681936006
http://www.weblogsinc.com/common/images/6821595414083573.JPG?0.8816574834581683


looks like a tacky VCR.....

TiE23
11-11-2004, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by Leper Messiah
looks like a tacky VCR.....
fake, in my OXM, no backwards compatability, gonna be smaller, sleeker, and same color scheme, and the controler might be different. from pics it looks like its a combination of a PS2 and Xbox controller, but they are still making and designing stuff

Real PS3:

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Bingo/1415/photo/ps3.jpg

*waits for next E3*

TiE

GothiX
11-11-2004, 10:18 AM
Isn't the new Elder Scrolls being developed for XBox2?

Kain
11-11-2004, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by TiE 23
Real PS3:

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Bingo/1415/photo/ps3.jpg

So you're telling me the new PS is a red X on a white box? Shouldn't the X be for XBox?

ImmolatedYoda
11-11-2004, 12:40 PM
From my favorite website Actiontrip:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19615

"The standard Xbox Next will not include a hard drive, which will allow Microsoft to cut costs on this basic unit. Xbox Next HD, as you might imagine, does include a hard drive and will offer increased functionality based on this. Xbox Next PC is, according to the presentation, an entry-level PC that runs Windows and all standard PC software. It also includes CD Burner, Wireless keyboard, mouse and controller and will work best connected to a high-definition TV or PC monitor. Media Center functionality - like movies, music and photos - is also included. The device will also play most available PC games."

Makes me really sad :(.

Acrylic
11-11-2004, 02:59 PM
Like Tie said : Those "Xbox2" pictures are fakes.

There are no official pictures at all, as of yet.

TiE23
11-11-2004, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by ImmolatedYoda
From my favorite website Actiontrip:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19615

"The standard Xbox Next will not include a hard drive, which will allow Microsoft to cut costs on this basic unit. Xbox Next HD, as you might imagine, does include a hard drive and will offer increased functionality based on this. Xbox Next PC is, according to the presentation, an entry-level PC that runs Windows and all standard PC software. It also includes CD Burner, Wireless keyboard, mouse and controller and will work best connected to a high-definition TV or PC monitor. Media Center functionality - like movies, music and photos - is also included. The device will also play most available PC games."

Makes me really sad :(.
Whoa, three versions?? Whoa!

I will obviously get the HD version :D

TiE

Anthony
11-11-2004, 03:26 PM
I'll be getting the HD version of Xbox 2 that works on any normal TV.

:indif:

Darth Groovy
11-11-2004, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by Boba Rhett
All copies of Obi Wan should be rounded up, burnt, have their ashes placed in very large, very thick vaults and buried in the meadowlands where a group of monks shall be formed and set up a monastary over the burial site in hopes that their ever constant vigilance and mighty prayer keep at bay the evil powers that brought forth such putrid filth.

Tell us how you REALLY feel Rhett. :p

Astrotoy7
11-12-2004, 04:01 AM
there are scant few games that really push current generation consoles to their limit.....and backwards compatibility is always a very big selling point... I really am in no hurry for 2006 and the next gen consoles, but wouldnt mind a PSX tho :D

mtfbwya

Leper Messiah
11-12-2004, 04:33 AM
meh, as the current console situation goes: its not broke yet, dont fix it yet

ET Warrior
11-12-2004, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by Leper Messiah
meh, as the current console situation goes: its not broke yet, dont fix it yet

But most consoles weren't "Broke" when they were replaced. Consoles must merely update in order to take full advantage of newest technologies.

I for one am all ready for Xbox 2, whenever it may come :D

MTV2
11-12-2004, 09:19 AM
What about the PSX (http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20031007/sony02.jpg) ???

TiE23
11-12-2004, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by MTV2
What about the PSX (http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20031007/sony02.jpg) ??? It came out in Japan, and no one bought it. Who needs a PS2, TiVo, DVD burner, and crap where you still need memory cards to save damn games? :p

TiE

Bob Gnarly
11-12-2004, 11:44 AM
They look fake. remember what the X box was supposed to look like?
http://www.hoytoca.com/contenido/2004/febrero/05/xbox2fake.jpg
http://www.hoytoca.com/contenido/2004/febrero/05/mandoxbox.jpg
http://www.hoytoca.com/contenido/2004/febrero/05/xboxpc.jpg
http://www.gamer.nl/i/112000/974652834.gif

Boba Rhett
11-12-2004, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
Tell us how you REALLY feel Rhett. :p


I seriously was waiting for you to post that exact sentence. :D


I'm pretty sure those are fake pics. After the flak they got on the size of the first Xbox they aren't going to make it look like a normal tower pc and the teardrop one is kind of neat but what an ordeal it would be to carry around. Eh, maybe not. It's kind of cool too. The sticks on the controller look to be too close together as well.

Leper Messiah
11-12-2004, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by ET Warrior
But most consoles weren't "Broke" when they were replaced. Consoles must merely update in order to take full advantage of newest technologies.

I for one am all ready for Xbox 2, whenever it may come :D

ahhh you young whippersnappers are always in such a rush, stick with what works

*switches on mega drive*

jokemaster
11-12-2004, 02:44 PM
Halo 3 better be a launch title, or I'LL KILL THE WRITER OF HALO2





Damn cliffhangers, in movies it's not so bad cause the next one is gonna be at most 2 years away, when it's a really tough one it's usually 1 1/2 years MAX, like Matrix Reloaded or LOTR, but oh nooooooooooooooooooo we have to wait 3 years for the next one.....

TiE23
11-12-2004, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by Mamba

http://www.gamer.nl/i/112000/974652834.gif
Nice!! :D


Originally posted by jokemaster
Halo 3 better be a launch title, or I'LL KILL THE WRITER OF HALO2
Ummm, realese a block buster video game in one year? Yah.... right.

Say they are gonna release Halo 3 on the launch day of PS3 :D

wouldn't that be chaos? :lol:

TiE

Evil Dark Jedi
11-12-2004, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by jokemaster
Halo 3 better be a launch title, or I'LL KILL THE WRITER OF HALO2



Ok....... I will join you in your quest to make Halo 3 made.

jokemaster
11-12-2004, 07:28 PM
*Lone guy walks into toy store*
Counter-guy: Are you here for a PS3?
Guy: Actually I'm here for Halo 3.
*Lone guy gets killed by mob*

TiE23
11-12-2004, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by jokemaster
*Lone guy walks into toy store*
Counter-guy: Are you here for a PS3?
Guy: Actually I'm here for Halo 3.
*Lone guy gets killed by mob*
*Lone guy walks into toy store*
Counter-guy: Are you here for a PS3?
Guy: PS3 plays Halo 3, right?
*Lone guy gets killed by mob*
Xbox is teh supirior!

TiE

Evil Dark Jedi
11-12-2004, 07:46 PM
*Jokemaster and Evil Dark Jedi walk into Halo building*
*Guy who wrote Halo 2- Why are you here*
*Jokemaster- We want Halo 3*
*Evil Dark Jedi- Yeah we do*
*Guy who wrote Halo 2- Sorry we arent making Halo 3*
*Evil Dark Jedi into walkie-talkie- They dont have it*
*Guy who wrote Halo 2 gets attacked by a mob*

jokemaster
11-12-2004, 08:00 PM
We should make a thread consisting solely of Lone Guy walks into a store jokes.

Evil Dark Jedi
11-12-2004, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by jokemaster
We should make a thread consisting solely of Lone Guy walks into a store jokes.

Hmm we should but who would make it?

Boba Rhett
11-12-2004, 08:39 PM
Only one brave enough, strong enough, handsome enough, and hilarious enough to pull off such a feat.



Meh, screw that, I'll just do it.

jokemaster
11-12-2004, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by Boba Rhett
Only one brave enough, strong enough, handsome enough, and hilarious enough to pull off such a feat.

Well, gee take off the first thing and that's me :p

MTV2
11-13-2004, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by TiE 23
It came out in Japan, and no one bought it. Who needs a PS2, TiVo, DVD burner, and crap where you still need memory cards to save damn games? :p

TiE

Right...
its going to Come out in the US&UK (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/12/sony_psx_delay/)



Xbox 2 to come out in 2005? (http://money.cnn.com/2004/01/28/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/?cnn=yes)
odd, very odd(Xbox for $99! holy crap, gimme, gimme, gimme)

Acrylic
11-13-2004, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by MTV2
Xbox 2 to come out in 2005? (http://money.cnn.com/2004/01/28/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/?cnn=yes)
odd, very odd(Xbox for $99! holy crap, gimme, gimme, gimme)

You DO realize thats from about 11 months ago, right?

Darth Groovy
11-14-2004, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by MTV2
What about the PSX (http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20031007/sony02.jpg) ???

As much as I loved my playstation, and psone, that is one ugly ass looking console. It looks like a cross between a toaster oven, and a record player. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a crank in the back to wind it up. :rolleyes:

Bob Gnarly
11-14-2004, 05:16 AM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
As much as I loved my playstation, and psone, that is one ugly ass looking console. It looks like a cross between a toaster oven, and a record player. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a crank in the back to wind it up. :rolleyes: ahahahaa, that IS ugly.

TiE23
11-14-2004, 09:04 AM
:eek: They have the real schematics!!!



















http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Tie23/ps3schemematics.gif
(Gas powered mouse)





:xp:

TiE

GothiX
11-14-2004, 09:48 AM
That made my IQ drop.

Treacherous Mercenary
11-14-2004, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by GothiX
That made my IQ drop.

With TiE, your IQ is always sure to drop. ;)

ET Warrior
11-14-2004, 02:08 PM
X box 2 (http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2004/20041112l.jpg)



<_<


>_>


:D

jokemaster
11-14-2004, 05:08 PM
OOOH OOH I want the Trex



Dinos>pr0n

toms
11-15-2004, 05:11 AM
I can't see a massive need for new consoles based soley on games, but i expect the nextgen ones to be much more home media centres and much less game consoles.

Nintendo have said that there is an ever diminishing return as far as graphics go... they can keep pumping up the hardware, but the differences between generations will get smaller and smaller. They were derided in the games media for this, but microsoft has also basically said the same thing.
The graphics differences between a SNES and a PS1, or a PS1 and a PS2 are pretty huge. The differences between an xbox and a xbox2 are going to be fairly small.

For this reason (and microsoft and sony's desires to control all media viewing) it is pretty clear that (now MS have established that xbox isn't a pc) they will both be moving to a media centre type of device.

Personally i think this is the way to go. I already have a modded xbox that is wirelessly connected to my pc, that i store my digital phtos, mp3s and video files on. As everyone buys digital cameras and ipods there are going to be more people who want that. My only worry is that MS and sony will lock down all the useful functions so everything has to be done through their systems, codecs, drms and web services. That is pretty much a given.

Personally, i look foreward to the time when consoles are like dvd players.... the games are all made on a common standard and all games play on all consoles. Different manufacturers then provide different consoles (some basic and cheap, some with advanced features more expensive) just like dvd player manufacturers do. Imagine having to choose what brand dvd or cd player you bought based on which dvds or cds you wanted to play? It is a daft idea, and it is just as daft for games....

Me, i'm not bothered that much about better graphics just yet, i think this gen still has a way to go (except maybe the ps2), though i would like better physics and lighting. I want the media player functionality, but doubt i'll like the way they do it. So i'll stick with my modded xbox for now, as it can do everythign i want and more... the only thing it can't do is work as a PVR... if it could do that it would be perfect.

MTV2
11-15-2004, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by Acrylic
You DO realize thats from about 11 months ago, right?



wat do you mean?
Xbox came out in like 2001/2000, becuz halo came out in 2001 or 2002
that means that Xbox2 should come out soon, its been like 3/4 years

Acrylic
11-15-2004, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by MTV2
wat do you mean?
Xbox came out in like 2001/2000, becuz halo came out in 2001 or 2002
that means that Xbox2 should come out soon, its been like 3/4 years

The article is 11 months old.

Leper Messiah
11-15-2004, 12:55 PM
im not that eager to see the new consolesjust yet im pretty happy with games they are at the minute, i could do without new consoles being brought out just for the sake of bringing out a new console

TiE23
11-15-2004, 06:05 PM
Personally, I am exited for the next gen, who cares if the technology won't get better, but it will get cheaper, more important for a kid my age whose only income is allowance and chores. :D

TiE

MTV2
11-16-2004, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by Acrylic
The article is 11 months old. :confused:
:S:S:S:S:S:S:S

toms
11-17-2004, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by TiE 23
Personally, I am exited for the next gen, who cares if the technology won't get better, but it will get cheaper, more important for a kid my age whose only income is allowance and chores. :D

TiE

??

Cheaper? New generation consoles cost a fortune, as do new gen games. You can now get an xbox (for example) with a few free games, extra controllers and gadgets for the price of two or three brand new release games. At least half what they cost on launch.

Not to mention that you can pick up older games (and 2nd hand ones) for way less than they all cost around launch.

Unless you mean xbox 1 stuff will get cheaper with xbox 2, in whihc case you may have a point...

Acrylic
11-17-2004, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by MTV2
:confused:
:S:S:S:S:S:S:S

Is it honestly THAT hard for you to understand?

You were talking about 11 month old news, from this article: http://money.cnn.com/2004/01/28/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/?cnn=yes

:rolleyes: