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Mex
11-24-2004, 06:12 AM
Anyone got this game? I got it yesterday, and after getting 3 hours to get the game to work (Crashing every time I went inside a building) I started to play it.

The graphics look kinda nice, but I wouldn't know what they were like at max, because this game slows my computer down more than Doom 3 and Half-Life 2 together for some reason. Everywhere I go in the streets I get around 15 fps, yet on Half-Life I can get around 30-60.

The melee weapons are awesome, the severed arm is the best. I love the way the hand flops about when you run. But it hurts then that wierd guy tries to beat you up with it. Ranged weapons are lacking though, the accuracy stinks. You could be crouching down, and aiming for the chest and for some reason it'd miss him by miles and hit a box instead. You have to be quite close up to hit a guy.

One thing I don't like about this game is the clothes, I'm in Downtown (Not very far) and I've only gotten the shirt + trousers I started off with, and a green jacket.

Some characters are funny to talk to, especially the bartender at the Asylum, you can tell him a story and he'll just stare into space and ignore you. You can choose some wierd story options to tell him. I chose "I was told by my doctor I only had 30 days to live.... In a poker game [or something like that]... I'm a walking TV by the end of the week!

Sometimes the game is quite scary (Mainly because I'm a wimp) when you enter the *SPOILERS - If you want to avoid look for the word SEVERED below.* haunted house, you can faintly hear "Help me..." quietly, then you see ghosts running along and screams. When you go into the kitchen area you hear it quite loudly and it scared the hell out of me. I was relieved when I found the pendant and I could get out of there.

One other mission which is kinda annoying is the one where you have to slash the paintings and that blood monster thing pops out, I had hardly any health and he killed me with a few hits. Beat him when I had full though.

SEVERED. Overall if I had to give this game a score I'd give it 7/10. I would raise it it to 8.6 out of 10 but the problems it gave me at the start and my bad framerate take away alot of points.

Now you lot post about it.. Also post a pic of your character if you want. I'll post a pic of mine later.

GothiX
11-24-2004, 06:23 AM
The accuracy sucks because your ranged weapons skill sucks, probably. As well, in Downtown, there aren't that great of weapons available yet.

Oh, and for clothes; check the gangsta guy behind the dumptruck.

toms
11-24-2004, 06:29 AM
I'm really torn on this one...

I was excited about the first vampire game, but it turned out to be a rubbish combat fest.

I have seen virtually no hype for this one.. but it looks like a mix between KOTOR and Deus Ex with the sensibility of Fallout. Which sounds cool.

On the other hand i have heard that the game is very buggy, the physics aren't used, and (most importantly for me) the ranged combat is underpowered (or alternatively the close combat (esp knockdown) is overpowered).
It seems like a quite combat oriented game, so having half the combat options removed at the start is a bit annoying...

I think that i am hoping it will be a new Deus Ex (1) or system shock 2, but it sounds like i may be dissappointed.

So i'm going to wait a while, at the very least untilt hey bring out a few bug and balance patches... after all, there are a few other games out to play atm.

Kain
11-24-2004, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by toms
On the other hand i have heard that the game is very buggy, the physics aren't used, and (most importantly for me) the ranged combat is underpowered (or alternatively the close combat (esp knockdown) is overpowered).

Bullets have no effect on the undead body - anything thats not a fledgling knows that. Which is why many of the elder vampires tend to carry around more...eh, whats the word? Medival weaponry. Crossbows and bows can stake your vampiric enemies and blades are just a very nice way to say goodbye.

Play the P&P game of Vampire the Masquerade and you'll see why guns are nothing but a joke in that game.

GothiX
11-24-2004, 08:05 AM
You'd be amazed by the effect of a .38 Gauge to the head, Kain. ;)

Kain
11-24-2004, 08:18 AM
Which is why I said play the P&P to get a better understanding - I was being lazy.

Heres how it works - Bullets don't do squat. Most vampires can walk through them with a stupid grin on their face, rip the gun from the shooter's hands, and beat them to death with it. That is of course unless its a head shot. A head shot will knock a vampire on his ass, but not for long*depending on the gun*. A .38 shotgun blast to the side of the head would probably kill a vampire. A .9mm handgun - it'll piss em off.

Crossbows and bows will stop a vampire way before any gun will, and it won't have to be a headshot. Of course, a grenades effect seems to do the same to a vampire as to a human...

GothiX
11-24-2004, 08:34 AM
Meh, I've made a habit of sneaking up unto vapires and unloading a shotgun into them. That, or three or so shots from a revolver usually do.

Kain
11-24-2004, 08:41 AM
You'd never sneak up on my vampire. He's constantly invisible until he makes his move, then he's got a bubble of silence around him - you don't even hear yourself scream when he kills you.

GothiX
11-24-2004, 08:42 AM
Would that be in VTMB, or P&P?

Kain
11-24-2004, 09:30 AM
P&P, I don't have Bloodlines yet.

GothiX
11-24-2004, 10:32 AM
Ah, now there's the difference. :p

Kain
11-24-2004, 10:41 AM
Thats what I...ah nevermind.

Mex
11-24-2004, 12:19 PM
I just got to hollywood. Got me a cool leather suit. I'm kinda stuck with this video tape thing, I met this guy and he said something about Ginger swan, ran off and got killed. Now I have no idea where to go. After I complete it I'm gonna start off with one of those Nafarusomething (I can't remember it) :^: I want to see what its like to stick to the sewers and avoid the public.

Has anyone seen some of the console commands you can do? The devs forgot to take out the Half-Life 2 cheat give weapon Psycannon. It'll most probably be fixed in a patch. I hope that they make the weapon accuracy a bit better aswell, I've made mine 3 or 4 and I don't notice a difference.

Oh, and after you do that mission where you have to visit that sarcophagus (I spelt that completely wrong) and if you kill alot the Prince gets angry at you, if you tell him to %£&! off he says in an angry voice "Go... Find.. (Can't remember his name) " and the only option you can pick is "I will find him." That made me laugh.

SeleneRayne
11-24-2004, 03:36 PM
I'm looking forward to it, trying to talk to my parents into buying it for Christmas :). I liked the one before this one, I would have lotsa fun with Kain playing it. :D

Hellfire Jedi
11-24-2004, 03:49 PM
i got it last night, really enjoy it. although i've spent most of my 8+ hours starting new games and experimenting. i've settled down with ventrue now. :cool: they have top persuasion, and all that goodie crap. i'm still in the 1st place, so i have basic clothes, .38, and a baseball bat. :[


but i get to feed easily as i've convinced this guy to walk down a dark alley for me. :P

txa1265
11-24-2004, 05:10 PM
I have been playing for probably 25+ hours (guess-timate), and am doing pretty well. I think that this is a really good RPG, with decent action. VtM: B isn't HL2 ... but then HL2 is no VtM: B, if you get my meaning.

Some thoughts:
- The questing is fun, sometimes difficult, and requires you to think and pay more attention than in many games.
- The ranged combat is OK, but you'll chew through ammo more quickly than is worth it.
- Playing as a Tremere, I get cool spells to lay waste to just about anything. What doesn't die, I whack pretty fast, and go drink some more blood.
- The graphics, IMO, are better than anything but HL2 and Doom3. Performance is below HL2 but better than Doom 3 or Deus Ex 2 or MoHPA on my laptop, about the same as Thief 3.
- The physics implementation is better than any action-RPG I've played ;)
- Ditto for the facials and characterizations.

A really cool thing:
- You constantly walk the line between monster and human, and your quests show that. Do you get a Masquerade violation? Lose a humanity point? Weigh what you choose to do carefully.

All in all I'm very much enjoying the game. It was well worth my $50, and lasts >3 times longer than that 'other' Source engine game, and has replayability built-in.

Mike

Kain
11-24-2004, 05:55 PM
A Tremere? A TREMERE!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hellfire Jedi
11-24-2004, 06:36 PM
way to seem like a major moron, nice job kain. :rolleyes:

atm, i've found that ventrue has a dominate discipline. its usefull in chat, and in a fight. look at your enemy and right click at this point, they grab their throat and fall over, dead.

Kain
11-24-2004, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Hellfire Jedi
way to seem like a major moron, nice job kain. :rolleyes:

atm, i've found that ventrue has a dominate discipline. its usefull in chat, and in a fight. look at your enemy and right click at this point, they grab their throat and fall over, dead.

Hey, have you ever heard of this thing called bite me? Who here has played the ACTUAL game? Until I find someone, I'll say what I want about the damn clans that SUCK(IMO atleast).

A Ventrue? A VENTRUE?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

You want Dominate? Use a cool clan...like the Lasombra...oh wait, you can't. Because video games only let you be 'the good guys'. No Assamite? ****, Kain no buy if no Assamite. Man ****, you can't be ANYTHING good in that. The coolest there are the Gangrel, and they suck.

Lousy Camarilla clans...Let the Sabbat and Independants have a game there, White Wolf bum humps.

Lil Killa
11-24-2004, 06:50 PM
I might have to get this game...

Hellfire Jedi
11-24-2004, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by Kain
Hey, have you ever heard of this thing called bite me? Who here has played the ACTUAL game? Until I find someone, I'll say what I want about the damn clans that SUCK(IMO atleast).

A Ventrue? A VENTRUE?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

You want Dominate? Use a cool clan...like the Lasombra...oh wait, you can't. Because video games only let you be 'the good guys'. No Assamite? ****, Kain no buy if no Assamite. Man ****, you can't be ANYTHING good in that. The coolest there are the Gangrel, and they suck.

Lousy Camarilla clans...Let the Sabbat and Independants have a game there, White Wolf bum humps.
satan is calling you. on a more serious note, calm the hell down. you're insulting people who play this game and acting like a knowitall *******, calm down before you get the thread locked.

Kain
11-24-2004, 07:47 PM
Whoa whoa whoa back the truck up here Hellfire. I'm insulting people? Lessee...

way to seem like a major moron, nice job kain

And then I responded with

have you ever heard of this thing called bite me?

I think calling someone a moron qualifies as more of an insult that telling the original insultee to bite me. Now you're telling to calm down and calling me an *******?

Seeing as how I'm the only person thus far that has played the game of which this video game was created from, I am a knowitall.

Eeyeah...whatever boats your float there Scooby.

GothiX
11-24-2004, 09:36 PM
Kain, please, drop it, at least until you've played the game. Gangrel are way underpowered in it, sadly.

*goes back to his Nosferatu*

Kain
11-24-2004, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by GothiX
Kain, please, drop it, at least until you've played the game. Gangrel are way underpowered in it, sadly.

*goes back to his Nosferatu*

What are you talking about? Seriously, Venture, Tremere, Giovanni, Ravnos, and Setites are irk me deep down...something about being a stuck up priss just...eeyea, you get it.

Nosferatu - got nothing against em.

CapNColostomy
11-24-2004, 11:09 PM
Wow. This seems like an awefull lot of fighting. And for what? I thought everyone already knew that vampires were gay now. Remember when they were a little bit scary? You know, back before over privileged, supposedly abused pasty white kids took all their coolness away? "Daddy didn't hug me enough! I'll show him! I'll be obsessed with vampires!". Way to stick it to the man there, Vlad X. Vampire mythos has been reduced to holding little glowing stick thingys and shaking them for your "trance" buddies, wearing makeup and black clothing in a gay bar, whilst gay music blares in the background. Sucking blood has been replaced by sucking ****, and that is actually more frightening.

Astrotoy7
11-25-2004, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by Kain
....Seeing as how I'm the only person thus far that has played the game of which this video game was created from, I am a knowitall.


P&P. You play P&P ! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAH.............. etc

I bow before your geekiness o' evil overlord of P&P asskickery :p

*throws dice*

*scribbles something down*

OMFG!!!WHAT A RUSH!! [/pupils dilate]

Im not even interested in this game, but I find this argument rather amusing. Poor compy gamer dudes getting flamaged by a P&P denizen of the same universe/game/concept... I have seen this happen a few times at other forums(namely regarding forgotten realms/D&D crap), but never thought I'd see a hardcore OMFG!!USUXXORRZZcoZuHAVNTPLYDTHEPNP trooper here :D

I congratulate you again Kain, and I look forward to your jackass "mehs" and whinin once you get the game and it doesnt match up to your Ohio Board of *******s standards...

CapN.....you show us once again why YOU are the PREZ !! Good call man :p

mtfbwya

Darth Eggplant
11-25-2004, 10:31 AM
I donut have the game but the I have the OST (soundtrack)
the music to the game "music to feed by IZ cool.

KBell
11-25-2004, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by CapNColostomy
Wow. This seems like an awefull lot of fighting. And for what? I thought everyone already knew that vampires were gay now. Remember when they were a little bit scary? You know, back before over privileged, supposedly abused pasty white kids took all their coolness away? "Daddy didn't hug me enough! I'll show him! I'll be obsessed with vampires!". Way to stick it to the man there, Vlad X. Vampire mythos has been reduced to holding little glowing stick thingys and shaking them for your "trance" buddies, wearing makeup and black clothing in a gay bar, whilst gay music blares in the background. Sucking blood has been replaced by sucking ****, and that is actually more frightening.

o.........m...........g

That is the greatest post I have ever read on LF, ever xD

100% true too :p

Astrotoy7
11-25-2004, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by CapNColostomy
Wow. This seems like an awefull lot of fighting. And for what? I thought everyone already knew that vampires were gay now. Remember when they were a little bit scary? You know, back before over privileged, supposedly abused pasty white kids took all their coolness away? "Daddy didn't hug me enough! I'll show him! I'll be obsessed with vampires!". Way to stick it to the man there, Vlad X. Vampire mythos has been reduced to holding little glowing stick thingys and shaking them for your "trance" buddies, wearing makeup and black clothing in a gay bar, whilst gay music blares in the background. Sucking blood has been replaced by sucking ****, and that is actually more frightening.

Hmmm...that post has changed since I last saws it !! :p CapN are you canning vampfans or gay niteclubs.....or perhaps the two may be inextricably linked :D

*investigates*

:p

mtfbwya

Mex
11-25-2004, 11:27 AM
I need some help with the game.

I'm stuck at the bit where you are in the facility in China town. That guy does some experiements on you and im on the one where he says "How much limbs can you use before you die?" and I can't get past it! I get hurt, I let my health regenerate. I've left it for 5 minutes, I've killed myself. But it just won't continue! The two guys behind the bullet proof glass just stare at me. I need to know how to get past this point. :(

Astrotoy7
11-25-2004, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by Pal™
I need some help with the game.


yay ! someones talking about the game again ! thank goodness !
this thread went from
Game>PnP>Kain bein a jackass>astro bein a smartass>vamps at gay niteclubs>Game

Im sure we could all have predicted that :D ahh....the beauty of forum funnage :D

mtfbwya

Kain
11-25-2004, 06:18 PM
Hm, speaking of game means time to be a jackass again then eh?

Yea, I'm uptight about Vampire games...mostly because I watched the last one turn into ****, hit the fan, reassable as even MORE ****, hit a BIGGER fan, turn into more ****, catch on fire, hit the fan AGAIN, and finally die. Kinda makes one...whats the word...untrusting toward the genre...

That and playing with uber-P&P players who get their jollies using Dominate to make 'teh uber hot chix' have sex with them...damn Storyteller never let me just kill the whole lot of them...

...Assamites pwn all j00 lamer clans anyways.

http://www.assamites.com/images/ass10.gif

RpTheHotrod
11-25-2004, 07:29 PM
guys...cut out the bickering and fighting. Seriously, if you want to argue these "points"...then do so elsewhere.

ET Warrior
11-25-2004, 10:55 PM
I honestly don't even know what the hell is goin on in this thread :\

Seems like it should be left to discussing video games, and not 'which vampires are teh betters!'

But that's just me.

Sabretooth
11-25-2004, 11:22 PM
So, is this game completely worth buying? I mean I've heard it's Gothic with Combat, but what I look out for first off in RPGs is wether it has a good story and gameplay.

Astrotoy7
11-26-2004, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by ET Warrior
I honestly don't even know what the hell is goin on in this thread :\

Seems like it should be left to discussing video games, and not 'which vampires are teh betters!'

But that's just me.

you dudes are mods, you gotta kick more ass than that ! c'mon kick it ! :p Perhaps you should read some chapters from "How to be a Hardass Mod & Get Laid Doin It" by Jed, with foreword by Groovy.

what are the specs on this game.....is it likely to run shytley on a 64mb card........I've been trying to avoid it, but Im an RPG sucka(no pun intended) :D

mtfbwya

GothiX
11-26-2004, 05:16 AM
It's got a low framerate on any system, I'm afraid.

Sabretooth, the gameplay is great, and very true to what I'd imagine it should be liken to be a vampire nowadays. The quests are fun to do, and all unique in their kind. The story, well, that one's up to you. Let's just say it's quite complex, and worth being turned into a novel.

txa1265
11-26-2004, 05:17 AM
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
what are the specs on this game.....is it likely to run shytley on a 64mb card........I've been trying to avoid it, but Im an RPG sucka(no pun intended) :D It performs a bit worse than HL2 on my laptop, but about the same or better than Thief 3. My laptop has a 64MB card, and it is fine.

I'd never heard of the Vampire PnP until a few months ago reading a preview for this, but I draw that line between PnP and video games - I don't know what people like Kain think of those who criticize games like BG2 because they aren't exact to PnP ... or movies like the LotR trilogy for all the liberties Jackson took.

I like Vampires quite a bit, very deep and engaging RPG.

Mike

Mex
11-26-2004, 09:13 AM
I found out something that might help your computer run the game a bit better. When in-game press ctrl-alt-delete and go to processes, and then right click on vampire.exe and change the priority to low.

It might seem odd but it does work.

Jed
11-26-2004, 02:08 PM
Here's the deal - everyone who's bitching about who knows what will get an early Xmas present. Santa's givin' out cookies and bans, and guess what?

HE'S ALL OUT OF GODDAMN COOKIES.

Caprice?

KBell
11-26-2004, 02:10 PM
you're 6 posts late Jed :)

Sabretooth
11-27-2004, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by GothiX
The story, well, that one's up to you. Let's just say it's quite complex, and worth being turned into a novel.

Done. I'm buying this baby!

Hellfire Jedi
11-27-2004, 05:20 AM
well, i don't know about you gothicx, but i run it fine. some framerate drops, its anything but often.

near beating the game with ventrue now... werewolf is a freaky mofo!

GothiX
11-27-2004, 09:35 AM
All those I know have been having framerate issues, HJ, hence me saying so. Setting its priority to low really works wonders though.

Mex
11-27-2004, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by GothiX
All those I know have been having framerate issues, HJ, hence me saying so. Setting its priority to low really works wonders though.

Told you that it would work didn't I? ;) It is an odd fix, but for some reason it does work.

Agen
11-27-2004, 05:21 PM
I played Vampire: The Masqueradasfsdgvdfgd, thoguht it was ok but, well, the combat wasn't for me. I'll check this out though since it sounds like the storyline is pretty good. :)

Oh yeah and Kain, you vindicate my vote with every passing day. ;)