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starmark2k
12-02-2004, 10:34 AM
I know TSL isn't even out yet but i think it is almost certainly going to be a success.

So lets help obsidian or whoever gets KOTOR 3 in planing it by telling them what we want.

Give suggestions on planets to visit, new team members, story, etc.

if this thread does continue after tsl release add spoiler tags if your ideas involve parts of TSL.

I would like to see coruscant as a planet and a kel dor (Plo koon and one of the species in jedi academy) as a team mate.

PoM
12-02-2004, 10:49 AM
I want a Zaabrak named Foowom Raschasaki!

starmark2k
12-03-2004, 03:13 AM
They should also have

Character
rodian jedi like in jedi acedemy
A Gun Gun soldier (I don't know why i just think it would be interesting, but not like Jar jar)
a chiss (admiral thraw, from the unknown terrortories)

Planets
Nadoo (both early threed and underwater city)
alderann (I would like to see is)
geonosis
Bespin ( early cloud city)

PoM
12-03-2004, 07:40 AM
And it's Gungan, not gun gun... :D
1 gun + 1 gun = :duel2: = gun gun ^^

RedHawke
12-03-2004, 07:05 PM
Ok... KOTOR III


Opening Crawl Reads: 10 years After KOTOR:TSL the galaxy is in turmoil, the remnants of the Jedi and the Sith have allied both their forces against a new conqueroring evil, evil that is almost unstoppable...

Start game...

Our Jedi/Sith PC is in command of a Corvette class ship, the XO says to our PC "here comes one of their ships... they are hailing us...", "let me hear it" our PC says...

"We are the Borg... lower your shields and surrender your ship... we will add your biological and technological significance to our own... Resistance Is Futile!"


*Wake up screaming!*

:eek: Noooooooooooo!!!

:D

ChAiNz.2da
12-03-2004, 07:16 PM
^^ :lol:

@RedHawke
Thanks! Now I'm not going to get any sleep! :fist:

[cowers in corner, daring not to sleep for fear of having 'this nightmare']

90SK
12-03-2004, 08:05 PM
I'm guessing if they're IS going to be a KotOR III, it will take place much later than KotOR I, maybe 100 years or so. Perhapse your PC would have to unravel the secrets of your KotOR II character's findings/ exploits or something. Hopefully we won't have to endure some sort of awfully concieved NJO-ish storyline, as RH proposed (:eyepop)

RedHawke
12-03-2004, 09:02 PM
^^^^
:D

Well the nightmare could have been worse;

"We are the Sith... lower your shields and surrender your ships... we will add your midichlorianal and technological significance to our own... Resistance Is Futile!"

:fire3:..........:cyb3::cyb3::sithm::sithk::cyb3:: cyb3:..........:fire2:

PoM
12-03-2004, 09:19 PM
Whoa...really?
Well...umm...OK...Might be possible... :eek: :eek: :eek:

Lol! That nightmare isn't funny, it's hilarious.

Shok_Tinoktin
12-04-2004, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by CaptainSkye
Hopefully we won't have to endure some sort of awfully concieved NJO-ish storyline, as RH proposed (:eyepop)

Not to start an NJO debate here, but what does RH's scenario have in common with the NJO? Very little IMO.

Oh, and on topic: KOTOR III. It depends what happens in KOTOR II, so for now... no comment.

starmark2k
12-04-2004, 01:24 AM
Can we try to keep on topic please.

ChAiNz.2da
12-04-2004, 06:04 AM
Originally posted by starmark2k
Can we try to keep on topic please.

[start IMHO]
Sorry starmark2k, it's just that since Kotor II isn't even released yet (almost 2 months still for the PC version), without having played it and know what gets 'revealed', it's a little pre-mature to start thinking about a III.

Sure the devs have probably already (or will) started...but they've already played (and designed) TSL...they know what happens.
[/end IMHO]

Sorry for the diversion...carry on :)

starmark2k
12-04-2004, 06:20 AM
Originally posted by ChAiNz
[start IMHO]
Sorry starmark2k, it's just that since Kotor II isn't even released yet (almost 2 months still for the PC version), without having played it and know what gets 'revealed', it's a little pre-mature to start thinking about a III.

I know it is pre-mature but from tje reviews i've been reading (IGN and UK OXM) its going to be good. so a trilogy seems nearly inevitable (SP). at the moment we're only discussing basic ideas like planets that should be visited and possible species in your party.

ChAiNz.2da
12-04-2004, 06:33 AM
Originally posted by starmark2k
I know it is pre-mature but from tje reviews i've been reading (IGN and UK OXM) its going to be good. so a trilogy seems nearly inevitable (SP). at the moment we're only discussing basic ideas like planets that should be visited and possible species in your party.

Yeah, I agree. As good as TSL already sounds, a third is definitely not out of the question.

Some species I'd like to see (as playable Party Members)
1. Gungan (a non-JarJar type :rolleyes: nosa mesa sucks)
2. Gamorrean
3. Weequay
4. Dug (especially for swoop racing)

** Species Pics Here (http://www.starwars.com/databank/species/) **

Shok_Tinoktin
12-04-2004, 09:33 PM
Well, first off, I would like to see new planets/species. As for pre-existing planets/species:

Planets:
Ilum
Vjun
Af'El
Duro
Alzoc III
Coruscant
Gand
Ithull
Lwhekk

Species:
Gand
Defel
Chadra-Fan
Chiss
Noghri
Kaminoan
P'w'eck
Caamasi
Ortolan

I could go on for hours, but I think thats enough for now.

Aleggy
12-05-2004, 08:22 AM
i agree that'll there'll be a kotor 3 but i do think it a little pre-mature to be trying to plan the plot before we've even played kotor 2 as hopefully that'll give us a taste as to what dirrection the games are going but if i was to guess it would start with u being in some kind of state that you dont know whats going on but the sith are trying to take over the universe (again) and its your mission to join/stop them (again)

but why stop at a trilogy

stingerhs
12-05-2004, 10:57 AM
i honestly don't have any clue as to what would make a good plot line. however, i do think it would be cool if:

1. your pc could fall in love with and marry an npc (or other things that i'll leave to your imagination)

2. have a plot line that doesn't involve someone trying to conquer the galaxy (it should be getting a bit old by now)

3. you could customize your charater like you can in stg.

4. you could have multiple ways to complete the main quest to make the game more open ended.

well, thats all that i can come up with at any rate. :)

illuzion69
12-06-2004, 05:32 AM
2. have a plot line that doesn't involve someone trying to conquer the galaxy (it should be getting a bit old by now)
Yeah, but like watching pinky and the brain if done correctly trying to take over the world or galaxy can be a good thing. :)
As for my opinion for a kotor 3 , more pc creation options and a tool set for modding.

Nichpo
12-12-2004, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by Shok_Tinoktin
Well, first off, I would like to see new planets/species. As for pre-existing planets/species:

Planets:
Ilum
Vjun
Af'El
Duro
Alzoc III
Coruscant
Gand
Ithull
Lwhekk

Species:
Gand
Defel
Chadra-Fan
Chiss
Noghri
Kaminoan
P'w'eck
Caamasi
Ortolan

I could go on for hours, but I think thats enough for now.

Yeah Lwhekk would be awesome...especially to see the Ssi-Ruuk...

Think about it:

Light side: free the enslaved P'w'eck from the Ssi-Ruuk
Dark side: help the Ssi-Ruuk enslave more P'w'eck

Also Bakura would be great: that's where the P'w'eck fled to. You could visit their new colonies or somtin...

Actually lucasarts should base a game on the Yuuzhan Vong invasions (not necessarily KOTOR though, i think it's out of the timeframe!)

Oh and why Ithull? All the ithullians were slaughtered during the mandalorian wars...not much would be going on there...

90SK
12-13-2004, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by Shok_Tinoktin
Not to start an NJO debate here, but what does RH's scenario have in common with the NJO? Very little IMO.


I was just thinking: "NJO: Republic and Empire band together against evil Star-Trek-ish aliens. RH Scenario: Republic and Sith band together against evil Star-Trek-sih aliens.":D

On topic: I'd like to see some more alien jedi get into the party (like Rodians, Chiss, Devorians, ect.). Also, I think everyone can agree that Coruscant has been long in the making. It would be nice to see the Devs finally put it in a game (though the Taris moduals combined with the Nar Shaadaa moduals might work well).

RedHawke
12-13-2004, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by CaptainSkye
I was just thinking: "NJO: Republic and Empire band together against evil Star-Trek-ish aliens. RH Scenario: Republic and Sith band together against evil Star-Trek-sih aliens.":D
All this an I have never even read the NJO EU stories. :eyeraise:

Now this is starting to make me think, I should have written Star Wars Stories, I probably would have done better... or worse. :D
Originally posted by CaptainSkye
On topic: Also, I think everyone can agree that Coruscant has been long in the making. It would be nice to see the Devs finally put it in a game (though the Taris moduals combined with the Nar Shaadaa moduals might work well).
Yes Coruscant would rock! :urpdude:

Samurai DD
12-17-2004, 10:51 AM
Well I have the XBox version of TSL, I am going to buy the PC version too, but bought the XBox cause i couldnt wait. Ive already finished it 1 time, and yes, there will be definetely KOTOR III. I dont want to post spilers, so ill only say that they leave the story really open, if not incomplete.

Samurai DD
12-17-2004, 11:03 AM
The planets id like:

Naboo
Coruscant
Corellia
Endor
Yavin 4
Alderaan

Species:

Noghri enemies
Clawdite stealth party member
Some kind of exiled Yuuxhan Vong (well maybe thats absurd)
Jawa "dies in every battle" party member
An Ishi Tib
Maybe a Gungan
Falleen (like Prince Xizor)
Sullustans Rule!

starmark2k
12-18-2004, 04:38 AM
I think we can all agree that we want to see coruscant in the next one for various reasons.
but i think they have to have a planet that we have never actually seen but have heard of like alderaan or corillia. ass well as at least 1 with some familliararity from a film like naboo and bespin. and they will likly put in dantooine or korriban as they would be familliar to the players.

Samurai DD
12-18-2004, 02:55 PM
I think they wont repeat dantooine and korriban, cause, I wont say why, after I finished KOTOR 2, these planets have lost their use, theres nothing more you can do in them. If they put them again, it woud be illogical.

Jux Rig Do0
12-18-2004, 07:42 PM
For KOTOR III I would like to see something not later than II but earlier, maybe as early as the beginning of the republic. How cool would it be to see exactly how the republic was originally formed. I would also like to be able to customize the appearance of my character a little bit more. i.e. facial features. I have heard suggestions for beards which would be cool.

Master Jaxu
12-18-2004, 10:24 PM
Planets:
Corosant
Yavin 4
Alderan
Naboo
Characters:
Ithlorians
More wookies
Gungan
Kel Dor
What ever species eeth koth is

Jedi Jarf
12-18-2004, 11:07 PM
Ok if there is no kotor 3 ill be mad. and i think dantooine has a good possibility to be in the next game, youll see when you beat TSL . I would also like to see courisant and Alderan. And see the "Sith" and Jedi BAnd togather to fight some greater threat in unchartered space.

Nichpo
12-19-2004, 06:04 AM
Originally posted by starmark2k
i think they have to have a planet that we have never actually seen but have heard of like alderaan or corillia.

We have seen Corellia...it was put in SWG as one of the planets to visit.

90SK
12-19-2004, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by Jedi Jarf
And see the "Sith" and Jedi BAnd togather to fight some greater threat in unchartered space.

:drop2:

No no no! Havn't we already discussed this? ;)

KOTORManiac
12-19-2004, 12:09 PM
I'd love to see Darth Revan return, I think that would be really cool, and we learn loads about his rise & fall etc... Knights Of The Old Republic 3: Revan's Return.....:rolleyes: :D

90SK
12-19-2004, 12:13 PM
Thats the funny thing about KotOR. All these other people are used to idolize it (Nihilus, Malak, ect.) accept the one person whom the series really revolves around: Revan. Revan is ultimately the center of the KotOR universe.

KOTORManiac
12-19-2004, 12:22 PM
Exactly, no-one beats Revan, plus I seem to notice Revan isn't on any of the covers of KOTOR 1 or 2. Disgrace



Edit: Well actually he/she IS on the covers, but in the form of the PC, not the REAL Darth Revan.

Tdcquicksilver5
12-19-2004, 12:31 PM
I would really like to see Coruscant.I always wanted to go to the Coruscant undercity.I would really like to see alderann.Kessle is kinda cool.And Yavin IV WOULD BE SOOO COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!Imagine the sith artifacts from Exar Kuns reign!And i would really like to see Korriban return.Its my favorite planet from 1 and 2.

As for the storyline,Its all set up in KotOR 2.If there is a KotOR 3 it will have a predetermined story.

KOTORManiac
12-19-2004, 12:45 PM
Coruscant and Korriban are the two that I'd definately want to see in KOTOR 3. Any ideas for a name? I think Revan's Return or Return Of Revan or something like that would be cool.

Devilsfanatic
01-04-2005, 07:18 AM
I'd like to throw my hat into the ring if I may.

For KotoR III I think it should be focused around Revan, he should be the objective of the game. However, it shouldn't be a good Revan, but the Dark Lord Revan himself. In one conversation with Kreia in TSL, you say Revan turned because of his teachings on Korriban. She replies with did he really? Or did he do it to save the galaxy? Perhaps Revan assumed the mantle of Dark Lord out of necessity? I think they should take that dialogue and run with it, it would make a fantastic story, that Revan makes his way to the outer rim to fight something he all of a sudden remembers, but in doing so, he becomes Dark Lord so he can infiltrate the main source of the Sith teachings. Throughout the game, he will be your PC's main nemesis, and if they want to show Revan's face, in your dialogues with NPC's, you can describe exactly what Revan looked like, male/female, black/white, etc. I thought it could work?

Shok_Tinoktin
01-04-2005, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Nichpo
Oh and why Ithull? All the ithullians were slaughtered during the mandalorian wars...not much would be going on there...

I don't know exactly, but there are plenty of options. Any number of people could have set up settlements since the mandalorian war. You could be looking for something from the mandalorian war that will help you in your main quest, and it could be on Ithull. Maybe at the beginning, your pc wants to get away from it all, so you start off the game there, but discover some Sith plan (they could have set up a secret base here) that requires you to get back in action. Like I said, many possibilities.

dumac
01-07-2005, 07:58 PM
i always wanted something like fighting the true sith in an all out war. or you go to help revan fight the sith which is where he went after kotor 1. revan knew that the sith where the true enemy and the mandalorian wars was just a way to start up the sith belief and get lots of followers. apparently the sith in this game are really powerful kriea even says that the great masters of the light saber were so great it would be like the exile or revan fighting a kid.

starmark2k
01-08-2005, 07:09 AM
Originally posted by KOTORManiac
Coruscant and Korriban are the two that I'd definately want to see in KOTOR 3. Any ideas for a name? I think Revan's Return or Return Of Revan or something like that would be cool.

I dont think the name revan will appear in the title as it's not like other star wars titles. I think names like:
The failing of the sith!
The re-rising of the republic!
The first hope!
Would be more fitting.

90SK
01-08-2005, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Devilsfanatic
I'd like to throw my hat into the ring if I may.

For KotoR III I think it should be focused around Revan, he should be the objective of the game. However, it shouldn't be a good Revan, but the Dark Lord Revan himself. In one conversation with Kreia in TSL, you say Revan turned because of his teachings on Korriban. She replies with did he really? Or did he do it to save the galaxy? Perhaps Revan assumed the mantle of Dark Lord out of necessity? I think they should take that dialogue and run with it, it would make a fantastic story, that Revan makes his way to the outer rim to fight something he all of a sudden remembers, but in doing so, he becomes Dark Lord so he can infiltrate the main source of the Sith teachings. Throughout the game, he will be your PC's main nemesis, and if they want to show Revan's face, in your dialogues with NPC's, you can describe exactly what Revan looked like, male/female, black/white, etc. I thought it could work?


I can actually see that being the story for III. They're could be two Sith Lords, maybe. Revan being one of them. Once you get to Revan, he/she returns from the Dark Side to help fight the remaining Lord. That would be an interesting twist. Its a pity they killed off Nihilus.:(

dumac
01-09-2005, 01:30 PM
one that would be cool would be one that took place in the mandalorian wars. and you can be a jedi that left to join the war.

DarthTDe
01-09-2005, 02:26 PM
It'd be sweet to pretty much in the starting being in the Jedi council,and choosing to fight or not in the Mandalorian wars,and the council says no,but you secretly fight and they don't find out,but another one in the council does,too and he/she becomes the Sith lord in command of everything,and at one point,he/she claims him/herself Darth Revan!It would explain everything in KotOR I.And it would make the Darth Revan in the game look like your character in KotOR I by using saves on the Hard disk or PC.SWEET!

Boba Rhett
01-09-2005, 02:36 PM
But we already know what happened there. :confused:

DarthTDe
01-09-2005, 02:50 PM
It'd still be sweet.






please don't kill me,adminastrator!

starmark2k
01-10-2005, 01:26 AM
what happened in the mandalorian war was explained in Kotor 1 so we would know what was going to happen.

Samurai DD
01-10-2005, 08:04 AM
In KoTOR III they should finish the story of Revan, the Exile, etc. You go to the outer rim with Revan to see whats he is up to. The problem is, if you should be Revan, the Exile or someone else. Then it has some cool story that molds the galaxy of the films and fixes the Republic. If you turn DS then the films wont happen.

starmark2k
01-10-2005, 08:31 AM
^^^^
I think whatever you do in KOTOR 3 won't effect what happens in the films. if this is going to be a sought of last one for the series there may be a ending on DS so the sith go 'undercover'.

Samurai DD
01-10-2005, 02:00 PM
If they do more KoTOR games after the 3rd one, the second trilogy should be a totally new story about the founding of the Jedi Order and the begginings of the Republic. They would explain the Mantle of the Force and Heart of the Guardian importance. You could be one of the first Jedis, and if you went DS you could be one of the expelled fallen jedis. And in KoTOR III they should reveal the origin of the Ebon Hawk. (Sufficient mumbling).