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Kayote
08-02-2001, 01:06 AM
you know those little nuetral animals that wander around the maps pointlessly
will there be any?

Paragon_Leon
08-02-2001, 05:28 AM
of course there will be critters !!
the scene in TPM where those Trade Fed tanks come over the hill and those little animals run away...
the wildlife on tatooine...
the swamp-creatures on Naboo...
the pets on a Rebel base.. :D

Havoc Stryphe
08-02-2001, 10:13 AM
There had better be critters!

I want to see Wampas, Krayt dragons, Mynocks, eopies, dewbacks, taun-tauns, womprats, sarlaccs etc.

It isn't star wars without 'em!

I really want a see a Giant Space Slug ala ESB. But somehow I don't think it would work out ;)

Paragon_Leon
08-02-2001, 10:18 AM
why not ? he could work like the Worm in Dune 2000..

Havoc Stryphe
08-02-2001, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Paragon_Leon
why not ? he could work like the Worm in Dune 2000..

I'll take your word for it, since I've never played Dune. If it works than I have thing to say............SWEET:D

I want a map with a giant space slug!

Paragon_Leon
08-02-2001, 10:22 AM
in space battles, he could pop up out of an asteroid and eat one of your fighters / ships....

(Space-slug: "allright ! these once don't slip out ! hehe..")

Havoc Stryphe
08-02-2001, 10:29 AM
Geez, with out Space slugs the odds of successfuly navigating an asteroid field are 7,431 to 1! ;)

Paragon_Leon
08-02-2001, 10:30 AM
that would make a nice space battle taunt !
oh, wrong topic..

Havoc Stryphe
08-02-2001, 10:36 AM
Hey Leon, you ever get the feeling like we're the only two people on the board? :D

On topic: I would love to see Krayt Dragons on a Desert world

Paragon_Leon
08-02-2001, 12:57 PM
no, i have the feeling i'm the only one...
:D :D :D

yeah, we talked about Krayt Dragons a while earlier for a possible Tusken civ.
there was some debate on whether or not they could fly.

by the way.. does your avatar change every now and then ?
cool.

Darth_Rommel
08-02-2001, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by Havoc Stryphe
Hey Leon, you ever get the feeling like we're the only two people on the board? :D

On topic: I would love to see Krayt Dragons on a Desert world


That would be awesome! :p

Havoc Stryphe
08-02-2001, 02:27 PM
Sorry Leon, I had to actually do Work! ;) Anyways, you will see my Avatar change frequently, for I think variety the spice of Life.

By the way, Krayt Dragons originally were not to Fly, however in the Star Wars Episode 2, The design of Tusken Raider Camp we see will lend creedance to the theory that Krayts DO fly! So it's anybody's guess. I just Wish Lucas would show one ONSCREEN to end this silly debate! :D

And by the way, I believe those were Krayt Dragons in Jedi Knight. they were wingless, stocky, lizard beasts that closely resembled a Anklyosaurus. Wether or not that is/was Lucas's Vision or LucasArts creative liscense, I don't know.

JediMasterEd
08-02-2001, 03:53 PM
how about the rancor. it could pop out of a sand hole and eat your infantry whole. maybe the snow creature from ESB. it could drag your units and then have them for supper!:D

Paragon_Leon
08-02-2001, 04:00 PM
i think i read somewhere that both rancors and wampa's will be included. think of them as the alligators / wolves / tigers from AOK; they can attack, but will generally leave you alone..

Tie Guy
08-02-2001, 06:09 PM
yes, why not have them in there? The space worm would be hard, unless you were playing on an asteroid. :D

You should be able to convert them with Jedi, and then send them to attack the enemy's base.

*remembers mind controlling cows with c4 on them into the enemies bases in RA2* that was fun. :D

Kayote
08-03-2001, 12:35 AM
rancors running around eating people- for like a dathormir tileset or something

blo0o
08-03-2001, 02:45 AM
how come they have the naboo fighter and tie fighters and crap for the lil smily things but no x-wing or junk?!
gay.

:yoda: vs. :vadar:
who would win?

Paragon_Leon
08-03-2001, 07:00 AM
i'm sure they will expand it, Blooo.

anyway, i wonder if on Coruscant, the critters will be those mouse droids that drive around really fast.

Havoc Stryphe
08-03-2001, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by Paragon_Leon
i wonder if on Coruscant, the critters will be those mouse droids that drive around really fast.

Hehe, mouse droids as critters, now that's funny! :D
I would love to see mouse droids running around the battle field!

Paragon_Leon
08-03-2001, 09:18 AM
yeah, and you could blast them !!
but in the movies, those droids were actually messenger-droids. so maybe you could get a secret message to an ally using mouse-droids ...

Havoc Stryphe
08-03-2001, 09:31 AM
couldn't you just type the message....? ;)

but blasting 'em is cool. I love the noises those droids make!

Paragon_Leon
08-03-2001, 09:34 AM
you could type it, but in the AOK engine, you'd have to press 'enter', then select who you'd be writing to, then write it, and then press enter again.

just clicking on a default mouse droid that always goes to your ally would be a lot less hassle and would even make it part of the gameplay !!
that way you would have both battle-traffic, trade-traffic and communications-traffic!!

Havoc Stryphe
08-03-2001, 09:40 AM
I know, I was just teasing....though that would make for alot of micromanagement, it would certainly be cool. And add to the realism, and submersion factor! :D

Paragon_Leon
08-03-2001, 09:44 AM
hehe, all those terms flying around... 'submersion factor', 'cohesive gaming'... the things they must be thinking of us.

well, since there's two kinds of critters in AOK (critters that attack and critters that don't), what critter do you think won't attack ?

Havoc Stryphe
08-03-2001, 09:47 AM
A womprat! :D

mousedroid

eopie

dewbacks (maybe, we rally don't know if they are agressive or not)

Paragon_Leon
08-03-2001, 09:50 AM
eopies will be used by the Gungans and Dewbacks by the Empire.
both will be mounted and have military units.

so mousedroids and womprats remain..
womprats were vicious in Super Star Wars (SNES)

Havoc Stryphe
08-03-2001, 09:56 AM
I KNOW! But I think that game has little bearing on the Star Wars universe, i always thought of Womprats as just small rodent creatures not unlike our groundhogs. Not very aggressive. of course, that was before I played Star Wars on SNES! :D


on a side note, though very much a part of EU, vornskyrs and ysalimarri would prove to be some nasty anti-Jedi creatures on maps! and as far as it being EU, almost every expansion idea in these forums is EU, so I guess it wouldn't be TOO MUCH of a stretch.

Paragon_Leon
08-03-2001, 10:02 AM
those are actually very valuable suggestions. especially ysalamiri. they could have a force-less bubble that works like the shields in the game, and it would disable all jedi's abilities..

very nice..

Havoc Stryphe
08-03-2001, 10:05 AM
And Vornskyrs actually Hunt Force sensitive individuals, they can smell the force......i guess. That would kinda come in handy for a anti-Jedi unit! hehe....

Yeah, that's what I was thinking of the ysalimaari, a bubble that negates the force, like a shilds bubble. it would be very nice to put a few of those around the map so Jedi couldn't "stealth".

Paragon_Leon
08-03-2001, 10:11 AM
bounty hunters are already confirmed as the counter against jedi stealth, so alas.. no go.
still ysalamiri would create parts on the map where you have to get in without jedi. it adds depth, and that's good for a critter..

Havoc Stryphe
08-03-2001, 10:40 AM
I understand that Bounty Hunters are a jedi counter unit, however, I feel that not every Civ should employ Bounty Hunters, I feel that diversity would be nice, maybe a future civ in an expansion would use vornskyrs instead of bounty Hunters.

I mean, some have already mentioned wanting to see the Vhong as an expansion civ, and feel it unnecessary for them to have Jedi, since they have no force sensitivity.

If people believe that not every culture has to have Jedi, why should every culture have Bounty Hunters. Diversity among the Civs, let's not make this a Warcraft, where every unit has an exact duplicate on the other civ, just adifferent color and name!
Or even less involved than that, why couldn't they be neutral craeatures on the map, that had a distinct liking for Jedi that wandered too close. ;)

Paragon_Leon
08-03-2001, 10:46 AM
i agree with you on all of that, but it is probably better off in the bounty hunter-discussion. i'm sure there's one around... ;)

Havoc Stryphe
08-03-2001, 10:52 AM
I lost count after 4 or 5 threads! ;)


Actually my theory, because it is not exact, half belongs in this discussion. That is, of course, if Vornskyrs end up being critters with a apetite for Jedi ;)






However the other half of my theory does belong in another thread...I digress...sorry :o

Paragon_Leon
08-03-2001, 11:26 AM
i see the point...and will use this one off-topic post to say that your avatar is the coolest i've seen so far. (since you rotate a lot; the one with Palpatine and his Force-lightning)

Tie Guy
08-03-2001, 12:28 PM
Yes, i like both your avatar and your vornskyr idea.

Havoc Stryphe
08-03-2001, 12:39 PM
[aside] thank you both my Avatar is a direct extension of my manhood ;)


Back on topic....

That seals it...I will now launch a full campaign of lobbying Lucasarts for the installment of Vornskyrs and Ysalimaari into either the 1st edition or future expansion of GB.

I have been charged by God, all those who oppose me will feel the wrath of many a wampa :mad: ! I swear, by the force, I WILL be victorious......

[End Rant]

Well it would be nice, but I doubt we'll see them...... :(

Tie Guy
08-03-2001, 12:46 PM
Ok, have fun.

Havoc Stryphe
08-03-2001, 12:53 PM
Your sarcasm is not completely lost on me.... I'm am simply adding dramatic support to my above stated desire to see certain creatures in the game. In addition, I am only tying to have fun and spur homurous discussion on topic.

Just a little litehearted banter that is all. You should join in, release yourself from the pressures of day to day living and spread your creative wings.

Plus it gets real boring in here at time when there is limited amounts of posting occuring, so boring in fact, I believe my medication can't combat the boredom....

that would explain a few things.... ;) :D


Sorry if I have offended or "cheapend" your discussion in any way TIE guy... :o

Worf
08-03-2001, 01:27 PM
Maybe the Vornskyr's and Ysalamiri would start out roaming free but then they could be captured by any of the civs and turned into anti Jedi weapons...but there is a risk the Vornskyr's would turn on that player's Jedi. The Ysalamiri would also cause problems for ANY Jedi that gets too close.

Worf

Kayote
08-06-2001, 01:00 AM
a like the mouse droids and force-sensitive animals

how about jawas (which would attack only droid units) and tusken raiders(sand people) on the taatonine tileset?

RogueJedi86
08-06-2001, 01:40 AM
The Jawa thing wouldn't be fair,especially for the Trade Federation(all droids). On a Tatooine map tile,people would just keep luring unsuspecting Trade Federation players into Jawa herds so they'd be destroyed and leave their base open for attack.Still....it'd teach you a thing or 2 about scouting ahead with 1 unit instead of with your whole army. Actually a bad thing that could teach a good lesson. Still,I'm for TF 100% so no Jawas please. Also for the robotic villagers,like if you started on the map with a jawa force nearby,your economy would be severely devestated just because villagers suck at taking almost everything.

Boba Fat
08-06-2001, 04:31 AM
What about the jedi having yasmilari on them to pass the vornsk? and the Imperials could capture enemy men and torture them(with the interrigation droids) to find out information! That would be cool also they should have the Sarlaac to eat people on Tattoine!:sweat: The rebels could get Ewoks:ewok: to dismantle or capture AT-ST's!:eyeraise:


Boba Fat :fett:

Paragon_Leon
08-06-2001, 04:37 AM
Boba,

the Sarlacc-idea sounds like the most logical one and easiest to implement. It takes one spot on the map and if your troops might get too close, they could get 'drawn in' by the tentacles.
It's certainly possible and here's hoping LArts pay attention..

darthfergie
08-06-2001, 09:33 AM
I am pretty sure they have ewoks as idigenous life in this game. It sounds much like the Jawas being discussed elsewhere though!:D

Garry_M_Gaber
08-20-2001, 11:28 PM
Oh, yes, there will be critters! Absolutely! To name a few, there are Wampas, Krayt Dragons, Mynocks, Eopies, Dewbacks, Tauntauns, TuskCats, and Rontos.

Garry M. Gaber
Director - Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds

Darth_Rommel
08-21-2001, 01:24 AM
Krayt Dargons? Awesome! :D

darthfergie
08-21-2001, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by Darth_Rommel
Krayt Dargons? Awesome! :D

You didn't see that on the chat Rommel??? (lucasarts chat)

Paragon_Leon
08-21-2001, 07:37 AM
could someone expand on Tuskcats ? Are they mentioned in a book somewhere ? Or are they just the product of imagination for this game ?

Geogwe
08-21-2001, 10:49 AM
Howabout those tiger-like-things that atack you in the junkyard level of shadows of the Emp?You know:evil6: NYAH NYAH:evil6:
those guys.

Darth_Rommel
08-21-2001, 12:31 PM
Well, Leon I checked in my copy of 'Star Wars:The essential guide to alien species' And the 'Tuskcats' are not in it :(

Admiral Odin
08-22-2001, 09:14 PM
Break down the name.

Tuskcat could be a cat with tusk....

Tie Guy
08-22-2001, 09:52 PM
ok, but break dewbacks down. Creatures with dew on their backs, that doens't really work. They may have tusks, but it's not always like that.

xwing guy
08-22-2001, 11:08 PM
Actually dewbacks got their name b/c I think moisture sticks to their skin so that a way they can get water.

Admiral Odin
08-22-2001, 11:11 PM
I was just having fun and I have no better way to describe it.

brashin99451
08-22-2001, 11:12 PM
Nabooan Tusk-cat
this feline predator is native to the planet Naboo, where it hunts the plains for small creatures. Despite their fearsome reputation as hunters, the tusk-cats can be domesticated and used as herding animals.

Tie Guy
08-22-2001, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by xwing guy
Actually dewbacks got their name b/c I think moisture sticks to their skin so that a way they can get water.

Almost all of the moisture on Tatooine is found in the sand, not in the air. So unless they roll around in the sand, they wouldn't have moisture on their back.

Anyways, i wonder what else they have on naboo. And Kashyyyk, do you think they will have katarns?

darthfergie
08-22-2001, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by brashin99451
Nabooan Tusk-cat
this feline predator is native to the planet Naboo, where it hunts the plains for small creatures. Despite their fearsome reputation as hunters, the tusk-cats can be domesticated and used as herding animals.

WOW!!!
Did you find it on theforce.net???
I think I might of heard of them...somewhere...
I Just can't think where...:confused:
I think I'll check the sources at the bottom...I'll be back...

{found it:D
Abbreviation----GF
Title_-------------The Gungan Frontier
Author(s)--------
Copyright Date-1999
Publisher(s)-----Lucas Learning

All the info on it...no I havn't ever heard of them before:o So I don't know everything...}

Why would Lucasarts put something like that into the game???

Admiral Odin
08-22-2001, 11:49 PM
I wonder if these critters will be more of an impact in GB then in AoK.

darthfergie
08-22-2001, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Admiral Odin
I wonder if these critters will be more of an impact in GB then in AoK.

Which ones???

THe Tusk Cat is your basic Jaguar from AoK-C

Now the Rancor...That is the Gaia equivalent of an At-At:D

Admiral Odin
08-23-2001, 12:06 AM
Hard to say,

like will the Krayt Dargon actually hunt villagers. I just wonder how much damage they will do.

Mitth'raw'nuruodo
08-23-2001, 12:31 PM
I wonder if you could convert a wandering krayt dragon? *evil laugh* Also, I wonder of critters would fight each other. That would be really cool. Just think, you're wandering a scout along and "RRROOOOOWWWRRRR!" a krayt dragon battling a few rancors. THAT would be cool. :D

Tie Guy
08-23-2001, 04:02 PM
yeah, it would be cool if they had two "earth" civs" They could be like "gaia" and "terra." And they would fight each other occasionally.

TRIVIA: What game are those names from?

Admiral Odin
08-23-2001, 04:10 PM
gaia is simple AoE

madperm
08-23-2001, 05:01 PM
gaia is the name those roman or greek dudes gave mother earth..

i dunno about the other one...

Admiral Odin
08-23-2001, 08:46 PM
Terra means earth but I don't know what game it is from.

Tie Guy
08-23-2001, 09:10 PM
Ha! it is from Final Fantasy 9.

"Terra has always consumed younger planets in order to survive."

Kayote
08-23-2001, 09:17 PM
a hell of alotta damage these are kyrat dragons we're talking about!

Paladin
08-25-2001, 11:38 AM
There is no doubt that there will be creatures.
it would be aweesome if u could convert rancors and Kell Dragons

Paragon_Leon
08-25-2001, 02:25 PM
don't bet on it.
critters are, as a rule, used as either eye-candy or simply a pain in the ass for your villagers. that means they won't be swayed in performing that task.. :(

Admiral Odin
08-25-2001, 09:57 PM
That is what makes critters so fun. :D

corranhorn
08-25-2001, 10:02 PM
Mynocks and whatever other bird creatures you mentioned could be the GB equivelient of AOK birds

:atat: ============= :amidala:

Admiral Odin
08-25-2001, 10:52 PM
I wonder, will the mynocks attack air units? Critters normally do attack passing units. Will this be the same?

darthfergie
08-25-2001, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Admiral Odin
I wonder, will the mynocks attack air units? Critters normally do attack passing units. Will this be the same?

Maybe, but I doubt it. I don't think there will be mynocks though...they live in dark cool areas like caves.

Admiral Odin
08-25-2001, 11:17 PM
I know. :( still I would like to see that.