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jokemaster
02-08-2005, 07:22 PM
Now before the critizing begins, I'd like to mention one thing: I made this thread to talk about, more than anything, things that could improve games-to-movie adaptations, since the studios (both game and film) seem to be wanting to make movies out of every game, with Doom, Spyhunter, Bloodrayne, and others on the horizon I'd like to say what I think would most dramatically improve it.
HAVE THE DEVELOPERS/WRITERS OF THE ORIGINAL GAME INVOLVED IN FILMING, WRITING, AND OTHER THINGS
I mean seriously, if you have the developers directly involved with the film, it should improve and be more faithful to the games, or at least thier spirit. I mean come on, resident evil wasn't that bad but it looked a little too high tech. Anyone who remembers playing through the original, you're in a broken-down haunted mansion, not something you'd imagine has a high-tech lab underneath it. And now the doom movie, apparently, has nothing to do with hell, Mars, and is more of a SWAT vs. zombie movie than an adaptation of DOOM 3. I mean seriously, who here thinks that it would improve if the guys who made the damn game had to give the script the thumbs up and supervize the filming?

Anyway, those are just my rambling thoughts and I'm half asleep so vote and discuss.

Samuel Dravis
02-08-2005, 07:32 PM
All I want is the Splinter Cell movie to be good. I just read the book and it was decent. Now if they could just pull the movie off, it'd be awesome.

IG-64
02-08-2005, 07:46 PM
I got your answer right here:

Games to film movies should be animated. Be it 3D or cartoon animation.

I realise final fantasy was like this. But then theres just doing it right.

But no, I don't think live-action games to film movies will ever work.

wassup
02-08-2005, 08:31 PM
As long as Uwe Boll and Paul WS Anderson are given restraining orders to stay at least 100 miles away from the director's chair (or the entire production, for that matter), I'd actually be willing to see more video game film adaptions.

Redwing
02-08-2005, 08:48 PM
I want to see a Halo adaptation, because I know Microsoft is being extremely careful with that property. At least there's no possibility it would be done by Uwe Boll. :)

I'd love to see a Final Fantasy movie done that's actually, you know, fantasy. I liked the Final Fantasy movie, but wtf did it have to do with the game? XD

(I've seen a trailer for an FF movie that looks really cool, but I think that's some direct-to-DVD thing...)

I'd like to see a Dungeons and Dragons movie done right. That would be a little touchy, though, since there's alot of lame crap in D&D; but there's also some extremely cool stuff. The existing Dungeons and Dragons movie had none of the good stuff from the game at all. And the new stuff they invented for it was, well, crap. (I'm speaking from the perspective of someone who's only been introduced to D&D for about six months, and saw the movie several years ago and hated it.)

Rogue15
02-08-2005, 09:07 PM
yeah i really am looking foreward to FFVII: ADVENT CHILDREN. i loved spirits within. :) which had nothing to do with the game, except of course, the basic storyine, gaiah, lifestream, bodies returning to planet, etc. :D

jon_hill987
02-09-2005, 05:23 AM
Most games like Doom will not make a good film as they have no plot, Deus Ex however would make a good film.

I can't believe they are not setting doom on mars though...

Boba Rhett
02-09-2005, 05:27 AM
No hell spawns either. :( I like that Eomer is getting work though. :D



I would give up Groovy's left nut to see a Clive Barker's Undying movie. With a new ending of course. :D

RebelScum!
02-09-2005, 06:29 AM
Halo would be aweosme as a movie...some games i know have the worst story lines but there serious fun. Like SoulCablibur2 :D

Sivy
02-09-2005, 06:34 AM
movies adapted from games just doesn't work, they all will/do suck.
maybe, eventually they might get one right, but i wouldn't hold my breathe.

Alegis
02-09-2005, 06:51 AM
It seems hollywood uses the title as an excuse for an action movie (like doom 3).

If they don't plan to do the game justice (in other words, change the concept) it's doomed³ to suck

RebelScum!
02-09-2005, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by Alegis
It seems hollywood uses the title as an excuse for an action movie (like doom 3).

If they don't plan to do the game justice (in other words, change the concept) it's doomed³ to suck

Their making a movie from Doom3?

El Sitherino
02-09-2005, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by Redwing
I liked the Final Fantasy movie, but wtf did it have to do with the game? XD

I assume you're talking about Spirits within and not the other FF movies that had come out before that were animations. It wasn't supposed to have anything to do with the games, it was it's own fantasy.


I loved the Super Mario Bros. movie, I don't care what you all think, but that movie was fun to watch. I also loved the Clue movie. Clue is the best game to movie adaption ever.

RebelScum!
02-09-2005, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
I also loved the Clue movie. Clue is the best game to movie adaption ever.

Oh yeah that was funny...

lassev
02-09-2005, 07:23 AM
Many games have pretty crappy plots in the end, and that's why it would be essential to really study and try to capture the spirit of the game, like you also said, jokemaster. There should be a quality manuscript, not something some random dude wrote on a napkin or some tech guy extracted from the strings files of the game.

Personally, I would like to see a Command & Conquer movie. Those games, at least the original and Tiberian sun (those being the only ones I have played), had a very out of the ordinary and strong spirit. I suppose it would have to be a kind of a snapshot movie rather than the whole thing packed in 2 hours. But it might work.

swphreak
02-09-2005, 07:31 AM
Games to movies I've seen and liked:
FF: Spirits Within - dunno anything about FF, but this was entertaining.
Clue: I saw this on Comedy Central a long time ago. It was entertaining.
Super Mario Bros [Live Action]: I really liked this one, played the games a lot.

I think a Halo movie would rock. Heck, I'll take a movie adaptation of the Halo Trilogy any day of the week (that is if they follow the book and not screw it up).

BawBag™
02-09-2005, 07:42 AM
For those wondering about a Halo movie, check out this link. (http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/news/NewsStory.asp?news_id=16535)

It appears the wheels are in motion as we speak.

Sabretooth
02-09-2005, 08:26 AM
If there's anything that can make a good movie, it's Deus Ex. Everything else sux.

:p

Mike Windu
02-10-2005, 04:14 PM
I demand a Kingdom Hearts movie. :p

lukeiamyourdad
02-10-2005, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
I assume you're talking about Spirits within and not the other FF movies that had come out before that were animations. It wasn't supposed to have anything to do with the games, it was it's own fantasy.

That's the problem. I think that if it didn't have the FF name, it would've been better accepted.

El Sitherino
02-10-2005, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad
That's the problem. I think that if it didn't have the FF name, it would've been better accepted. Yeah, everyone expected it to be the same as the games, but it wasn't supposed to be, it was it's own fantasy, part of the series.

Anthony
02-10-2005, 04:58 PM
If done properly, HL2 would make a good movie in a way,

-NOT- from gordan freeman's perspective, however.

Alegis
02-10-2005, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by RebelScum!
Their making a movie from Doom3?
Technically it hasn't got anything to do with Doom 3 except "some creatures will be recogniseable".

Here's a good SA article about it
http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=2549

Redwing
02-10-2005, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
Yeah, everyone expected it to be the same as the games, but it wasn't supposed to be, it was it's own fantasy, part of the series.

Then why name it that?

@ Halo article: *Majorly crosses fingers* =)

El Sitherino
02-10-2005, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Redwing
Then why name it that?
IT IS IT'S OWN FANTASY STORY! WRITTEN IN STYLE WITH FF!. Not all the FF games have to do with eachother, why don't people complain about that? "omg it's not the same as the last one, totally different story". They're different fantasies entailing different stories. They're all part of a series, as was this movie.

You people are really silly.

Redwing
02-10-2005, 09:05 PM
Capslock is not your friend, Sithy. :D

From what I've seen and been told of Final Fantasy, the world is nothing whatsoever like that protrayed in the movie (except for the idea of the Earth having a spirit, etc etc.)

I wasn't aware that it was meant to be part of the series (curious as to how that works?) and you shouldn't be so offended that some people aren't psychic. ;)

El Sitherino
02-11-2005, 12:04 PM
You don't have to be psychic since they were telling people that since before it was released. It is it's own fantasy, don't get it, too bad. But don't complain because you can't understand a concept.

jokemaster
02-13-2005, 12:56 PM
Spirits within was good, it just wasn't FF. Which is why I always refer to it as Spirits Within.

Halo could be good, Bloodrayne looks like ****e, Doom will probably be crap, Uwe Boll now has 10 death contracts on him.

jokemaster
02-14-2005, 07:44 PM
*Bump*
new movie (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=144374)

toms
02-15-2005, 07:23 AM
Final fantasy is a bit different, as each one has been set in a totally different world with totally different characters...

But on the whole the TWO things that really annoy me about game adaptions are:

1) "Because it is based on a game it is ok to make it dumb".
Many games now have pretty grown up, involved and intelligent plots and are aimed at adults... but most movie producers seem to still think of "games" as plotless snes-side-scrollers aimed at kids.
So they seem to think the best approach is to make plotless action movies aimed at kids (or dumb teen boys).

Exhibits: AvP, Resident Evil, House of the Dead, Bloodrayne, etc..

2) "Buying the name, not the content".
I still don't get why, when studios bother to spend the money to buy up a recognised name, they then entirely ignore the original source material and basically make their own genre movie with the name tacked on.

Surely the name they have paid so much for is only of value among the section of the public who are familiar with the original, so tacking the name onto a mostly unrelated product manages to annoy the only people that the name might attract. Everyone else who didn't know the original work won't be attracted by the name.

Many computer games that are bought up are based on pretty generic premises anyway (eg: doom/HL = man against invading aliens). So i don't see why they don't just skip buying the name and make their own version (like the Underworld people did with the white wolf idea).

Exhibits: AvP, Resident Evil, House of the Dead, Doom, Alone in the dark, mario

To be fair, this isn't really limited to computer games. A & B above both apply to most comic book movies, as well as a number of book adaptions and adaptions of old tv series and foriegn films.
(eg: League of extrordinary gentlemen, catwoman)

I stil maintain that there are very few computer games who's source is original and unique enough to warrant conversion (thief being the only one i can think of right now) as many great games (Doom, HL, Deus Ex) have plots that are so generic that they could easily make their own version.

So just leave them alone unless you are going to do them right...

El Sitherino
02-15-2005, 08:09 AM
The Mario movie was great. Why'd you stack it in with craptacularly bad movies? ;_;

Mario the game is about saving the princess, same as in the movie. Kinda like Star Wars.

RebelScum!
02-15-2005, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by Redwing
@ Halo article: *Majorly crosses fingers* =)

Same! Great find btw.

BawBag™
02-15-2005, 09:16 AM
Cheers. :)

And for those that missed it:
Link (http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/news/NewsStory.asp?news_id=16535)

jokemaster
02-15-2005, 12:18 PM
Yeah but no FF game takes place on earth.

Tux115
02-18-2005, 07:47 PM
2 words
Street Fighter (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111301/)

*shudders*

I think the MGS games would make great movies because in essence they already are...

ET Warrior
02-18-2005, 07:52 PM
Metal Gear could indeed make a pretty good movie, similar to the way Splinter Cell has really good potential for an entertaining movie.


The problem with most video game to movie adaptations is they take video games whose stories aren't intended for film. Most video game stories are fun because YOU are playing it. like the plot twist in KOTOR was a HUGE deal because it was YOU. It really wouldn't be that big of a deal in a movie, because it's just another character, whoopdydoo.

Kylilin
02-21-2005, 07:00 AM
There are only so many games out there with enough story to fill a movie. Here's my list of games that could possibly be made into a good movie in the right hands. Feel free to agree or disagree.

1. Half-Life
2. Return to Castle Wolfenstein
3. Metal Gear
4. Final Fantasy VII
5. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
6. Everquest (just because the possibilities would be limitless, like D&D)

toms
02-21-2005, 07:15 AM
true.

Also, many games are basically variations on classic ideas from film/tv ANYWAY. So converting them back just creates something that is like a poor imitation of the original inspiration.

MGS might well make a good movie. As might the mechwarrior games (they both have a well fleshed out back story, characters and universe).

Halo and splinter cell however seem far to generic in their approaches to make particularly unique games. The plots are very generic, and the characters (while well suited to the games) are very generic "gruff action hero" types. Halo would come across like chronicles of riddick, and splinter cell like any other tom clancy novel.

jokemaster
02-22-2005, 06:15 PM
MGS could make a very good movie, if handled right. So could Silent Hill, some of the GTA games, Half Life. Duke Nukem could be done, though it'd be seen as an army of darkness rip-off, which it was actually a homage, IMO.

Let's see......Deus Ex and System shock could make VERY good movies. So could thief, and the Monkey Island games would make good wierd comedies.

What else.............Full Throttle has a chance, I haven't seen any motorcycle movies lately, except for, of course, the motorcycle diaries.

Clem
02-22-2005, 07:18 PM
need an example of a good game 2 movie conversion ...


MORTAL COMBAT .... come on ... admit it ... it rocked :)

meh ... it doesnt really work either way ... games are games and movies movies .... and generally crossovers dont work

Clem

Rogue15
02-22-2005, 07:25 PM
hey clem!!!

it's Mortal Kombat btw. ;)

I thought the resident evil 1 was good. haven't seen apocalypse.

Clem
02-22-2005, 07:28 PM
Hey 15!

sorry ... excuse me and my correct spelling :)

still ... the film rocked ... second 1 isnt bad either ...

havent managed to see either RE films yet

i'm with the person who said deus ex ... loved the story in that one

Doom3 would make an amazing film if it kept its own story... one of those horror action suspense movies .... its got a movie storyline anyway ...

Clem