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EmperorZod
03-10-2005, 07:37 AM
850,000 posts on lucasforums / jedi knight series games.

Make another we demand it ! !

I'll put my name down for a new release:

Emperor Zod


Dont let this series die !

parasiticz
03-10-2005, 07:57 AM
Agreed.

Nokill
03-10-2005, 08:12 AM
Nokill puts his name in to

Nokill

There you go :mad:

DruggedSith
03-10-2005, 08:29 AM
DO IT- DO IT NOW!

Nokill
03-10-2005, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by DruggedSith
DO IT- DO IT NOW!

you have to give your name up :p
and evryone ho posts here must promise to buy the game ;)
so if we get enuf posts thay will sell a lot :D

Sinna
03-10-2005, 08:33 AM
*Sinna signs*

razorace
03-10-2005, 11:52 AM
It's pretty silly to start petitions like this. First off, the people that make the decisions about the Jedi Knight frachise don't visit here. Secondly, you're not even using your real names.

Prime
03-10-2005, 04:49 PM
My mom named me Prime :(

[HR]Knight
03-10-2005, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by razorace
It's pretty silly to start petitions like this. First off, the people that make the decisions about the Jedi Knight frachise don't visit here. Secondly, you're not even using your real names.

So you work at LucasArts or Raven or something? Because I didn't know you "knew" what the marketing research people do for their job. :rolleyes:


Believe it or not, they do check forums like these, they don't post, they hardly visit, but they do visit forums. They are usually more likely to visit the bigger sites such as filefront.

That's what they do for their job, although it isn't always based on web browsing....

=================================


[HR]Knight signs

Kurgan
03-11-2005, 01:32 PM
They do visit and post on occasion (though few have posted since the release of Asteroids Mod with JA).

I'm sure if they see sufficient profit in creating a new Jedi Knight game they'll make one.

razorace
03-11-2005, 03:17 PM
To be fair, Mike doesn't have much pull at LEC as far as I know.

Master William
03-11-2005, 03:22 PM
Sure, I would love a new Jedi Knight game. But I think they should use a new engine and make something new instead of making a game with the same engine. Hopefully we'll see no more "honour chatroom" servers in the next Jedi Knight game.

Also, I advise you to go to www.petitiononline.com (something like that) and start a petition. Anyway, I'll sign.

*William signs*

Kurgan
03-12-2005, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by razorace
To be fair, Mike doesn't have much pull at LEC as far as I know.

Right. The Raven guys posted here relatively frequently for awhile, but the only confirmed "LucasArts employee" we got posting was WebJedi (the webmaster of the LA site). In the past we've had a few other folks like Zanzibar from the TPM game team, but that's all I know about.

acdcfanbill
03-12-2005, 12:26 PM
well, i shall put my god given name down :)

anyway, 10 people wanting a new game isnt going to garner much interest at LEC, sales of the previous game probably do more :)

MuRaSaMuNe
03-12-2005, 01:35 PM
I'm hoping they have something sexy at the LA booth at E3 this year.

Achilles87
03-12-2005, 08:57 PM
Sure I'll put my name down, I'd like to see a new Jedi Knight game..

Achilles

DarkStarMojo
03-13-2005, 04:18 PM
Considering Jedi Academy seems to have been a successful game, I think we'll see another JK game in the works in the not- too-distant future. I doubt Raven Software will be involved, though, since they're currently making Quake IV and that's a pretty big task. But I predict we'll hear something about a new game by this year's E3 and it'll probably use the same graphics engine as Republic Commando.

Anyway, you can put my name down if you'd like. The Jedi Knight series really deserves another game. This time maybe we can play as Kyle again...

SniperForceX
03-13-2005, 05:25 PM
*Signs*pulls out disrupter* we want another JK game. (we also want more sniper weapons)

X out

MuRaSaMuNe
03-13-2005, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by DarkStarMojo
3 and it'll probably use the same graphics engine as Republic Commando.
.

Given that JK games have always utilized the most modern version of the Quake engine I won't be surprised if they use the Quake 4 one (modified Doom 3 engine).

Neverhoodian
03-13-2005, 06:48 PM
I would be all for a new Jedi Knight game, but I think it will be a long time in the making before they release another one, if at all. The series has had a history of long breaks between revolutionary games. Heck, it took them five years to make a true sequel for Jedi Knight.

What's more, they can't really extend the series that far into the years after Jedi Academy or they'll run into the New Jedi Order timeline, and I can guarantee they won't ever make a game based on that and risk alienating a sizeable portion of gamers who have either:

a: Never read the series, or

b: Don't like the series.

I think the best bet at this time would be to either have the next JK game be set in the prequel era (or perhaps the KOTOR era), and/or do what they did in MotS/JA and tell the story of another Jedi. As much as I like Kyle, having him as the hero again might become a bit monotonous.

And by all that is good and just in this world, if the "honorz" community taints a new JK game with their filth, I will start a petition to ban future Jedi Knight games!





Actually I probably wouldn't, but I'd be pretty ticked off.

LukeKatarn
03-13-2005, 09:20 PM
I'll sign. JA rules, I'm nto that good, I can only beat one player in padawan, but sang siege rules.

Giddamon
03-14-2005, 06:48 AM
Maybe with the incoming release of RotS they will make a new JK game

What I'd really love to see in the new game is a heavily hardcoded routine that kicks any player who says the word "lamer" and that forces the game to auto-uninstall from a server when the "forceregen" value is changed.

razorace
03-14-2005, 04:20 PM
*Giddamon's web browser uninstalls*

Giddamon
03-15-2005, 06:04 PM
No way, I have a h0n0rz web browser :rolleyes:

C'mon people, game is made for force regen = 200, use the freacking default setting :D

shukrallah
03-15-2005, 10:13 PM
I would like a new JK game.

I think the best bet at this time would be to either have the next JK game be set in the prequel era (or perhaps the KOTOR era), and/or do what they did in MotS/JA and tell the story of another Jedi. As much as I like Kyle, having him as the hero again might become a bit monotonous.


Kyle is the star of the JK series. Forget the KOTOR era... thats why that have KOTOR! I play a JK game to be a super sweet Jedi Knight, like Kyle Katarn, not one thats restricted by rules from the Jedi Council. To be honest, my favorite eras are the ones during the movies, and directly after.

Anyway, you can put my name down if you'd like. The Jedi Knight series really deserves another game. This time maybe we can play as Kyle again...

Agreed.


Given that JK games have always utilized the most modern version of the Quake engine I won't be surprised if they use the Quake 4 one (modified Doom 3 engine).

Only JK2 and JKA have used Q3. Dark Forces, Jedi Knight, and MOTS have all used there own engines (well, MOTS was an expansion to JK... so same engine there).

TK-425
03-16-2005, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by SniperForceX
*Signs*pulls out disrupter* we want another JK game. (we also want more sniper weapons)

X out
And we dont want a disruptor next time. I am very dissapointed in the Star Wars Universe realism in JA/JO, the models look cartoony and the general realism is terrible. Also, dont rush them, a great man once said "If you rush a mericle man, you get crappy mericles." And I dont need to put my name up, you can bet ten credits the guys at LA will release a new game. Do you think they would leave the game like they did in JA?

MuRaSaMuNe
03-17-2005, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by lukeskywalker1




Only JK2 and JKA have used Q3. Dark Forces, Jedi Knight, and MOTS have all used there own engines (well, MOTS was an expansion to JK... so same engine there).


Ah, I always thought JK1 was made from the Q2 engine... although Q2 did use sprites and no models so I'm probably and most likely wrong. :p

razorace
03-17-2005, 04:10 PM
What are you talking about? Q2 was 3d models only. Just like Quake 1. Plus, Jedi Knight 1 was created with an exclusive engine.

acdcfanbill
03-17-2005, 07:49 PM
if my rusty memory serves me, the jk1 engine was code named Sith ? or perhaps that was df...

shukrallah
03-17-2005, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by acdcfanbill
if my rusty memory serves me, the jk1 engine was code named Sith ? or perhaps that was df...

Yeah, I think I read that somewhere.

And I dont need to put my name up, you can bet ten credits the guys at LA will release a new game. Do you think they would leave the game like they did in JA?

I hate to say it, but it seems like LA just makes and releases them now. Game after game, so right when they are done with one they use the profits to make another, not to support current games, it seems.

It sucks, but it doesn't seem like there will be many patches for new JK games. Took them over a month to release the patch for JKA... when Raven had the patch ready a week after the official game release :-\ Who knows why.

DarkStarMojo
03-18-2005, 04:33 PM
I think the best bet at this time would be to either have the next JK game be set in the prequel era (or perhaps the KOTOR era), and/or do what they did in MotS/JA and tell the story of another Jedi. As much as I like Kyle, having him as the hero again might become a bit monotonous.

That's basically why Raven created a new character (Jaden) and let us design him/her to our own specifications. That's actually not a bad concept and, as long as Kyle's involved in some substanial way (and the game is good, of course) I'll probably be happy. What I really want, though, is a more classic "Dark Forces" feel and better weapon balance. JA is way too prequel-ish, even though it is still a good game.

Oh yeah, and i want to see a real gritty, dirty Nar Shaddaa, too. :D

Only JK2 and JKA have used Q3. Dark Forces, Jedi Knight, and MOTS have all used there own engines (well, MOTS was an expansion to JK... so same engine there).

This is true. I just figured since Republic Commando was made with the current Unreal engine, if LEC began production on a new Jedi Knight game in the near future, they would use this engine since they already have a crew that is experienced with it. How long they wait to make a new game will probably determine the graphics engine, though. If, indeed, it takes another five years (I hope not) then we probably will end up with a modified Doom 3 engine.

MuRaSaMuNe
03-19-2005, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by razorace
What are you talking about? Q2 was 3d models only. Just like Quake 1. Plus, Jedi Knight 1 was created with an exclusive engine.

Oops, miseducation on my part. In any case, it would be nice to see a new JK game with a new protagonist and an awesome physics engine to boot.

Nokill
03-19-2005, 07:59 PM
the new game will come probally in the late summer 2006 *if it will come*
and i hope it will come later so that the creators can get some more balanced options in the game

anyways we will probally know that thay will make on in december 2005 or else january

but im also yust guessing on this for now :o

all we can do is hope for this game to come
becouse its an pretty nice serie the DF/JK one that is

BlackDove
03-19-2005, 08:39 PM
I love StarWars games. I love the Dark Forces series.

I really do.

I dislike Raven though. They don't support their games. Even if they do, they do it wrong, because they listen to the bitchfactory that is communed by *******s with no skill.

When Raven issued 1.04 for JKO, it was the equivalent of [Edit: Pornographic flame removed. Please refrain from these in the future or suffer the consequences. ]. Good thing they were supporting SOF2 at the time. What a GRAND game that was. Piece of ****.

I hope the gazillionth sequel goes to another contractor using another engine, dump Activision's Q3 one. The only good thing Activision ever did was release Q1. That was it.

****, just get a new team to make the game, and dump the stupid companies on the side (bar LucasArts of course.....they're the ones with the only good thing - licence).

shukrallah
03-19-2005, 09:48 PM
Blackdove, you need to realise that without LucasArts' permission Raven cannot release a patch. Its not their fault the patches stopped. As for 1.04... IDK...

Also, Activision didn't develope Q3, ID Software developed it. Activision just published it.

BlackDove
03-19-2005, 09:50 PM
It is as I said.

No different.

I was actually there since 1.02. I was talking to the developers. I KNOW what they were making, and I KNOW what the process was behind it.

Kurgan
03-19-2005, 11:07 PM
Dark Forces = Jedi engine (created in-house at LA)

Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight and Mysteries of the Sith: Jedi Knight Companion Missions = Sith engine (created in-house at LA)

Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast = Quake 3 engine modified by Raven Software

Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy = Quake 3 engine modified by Raven Software

acdcfanbill
03-20-2005, 02:07 AM
boo yah! *does a little dance* still got it baby...

hrm, pornographic flaming, good in private, bad in public i see ;)

The Seeker
03-20-2005, 01:33 PM
Anyone else wanna see a JK game with Half Life's Source engine. *Imagines finally being able to manipulate objects with the force ala the gravity gun rather than simply being able to push/pull them* That would be my choice.

Prime
03-21-2005, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by BlackDove
Even if they do, they do it wrong, because they listen to the bitchfactory that is communed by *******s with no skill. So they only way to do it right is to listen to your opinions?

raven10
03-22-2005, 03:02 AM
yea, it would be great to have another JK/JA/JO sequel, I just would like to give support for thi petition as ravem10, if I need to give my real name I'll do it.

WHY another JK/JA/JO game? Lot of reasons, realy! I played KOTOR I and II, curently playing Republic Comando (not bad), but I would just rate JA/JO above any of those games, although I have to say that the story in KOTOR i and II is good (whell KOTOR II story is not so good becayse of ending, unless they gonna make KOTOR III and explain everything). Now with the solid story line in next JA, that would be a great game. I mean Episode III is behind the corner, sixology is ower, all of us loving SW in general would like to see some kind of continuation and since there is not going to be any more movies (it seams) game like this are only way to keep SW vibe allive. And that is why is all this wery important.

I don't know, Luke Skywalker might turn to the dark side or something (less likely cuzz he seams to be chosenone and not his stupid father Anakin aka Darth vader), hehehe just a thought, no fence to all Anakin fans.
Can they change the way that Katarn looks like, or invoke some other character on Master Jedi level.
Generaly is all fomiliar (but not less interesting, oncontruary ), after the balance in the Force caused By Luke's achivement, another turmoil ahould arise and its not imposible to happen, another sith from the past or the future, and the STORY BEGINS..............

Best Regards to all..........

Jaden X
04-08-2005, 05:29 PM
I heard that KotORII's ending had many parts cut due to the lack of time to finish them. If they had put all of them, fixed some more glitches, I'd really put it to KotORI's level.

I really want to be Kyle again. Even if it's only for a mission or two.

And make them invest a bit more on the story. It really adds to single player mode. JA's story just plain sucked, in my opinion. =/

Ham Yoyo
04-14-2005, 08:32 PM
I'm all for a new JK game. Put my name down.

JO AND JA are my favorite games.

Obi_Kwiet
04-15-2005, 12:11 AM
Do it! And liscense the source engine for it! Do it now!

Obi_Kwiet
04-15-2005, 12:36 AM
Do it! And liscense the source engine for it! Do it now!

lurtz231
04-23-2005, 05:58 PM
I'm all for a new JK too. Put my name on the dotted line.

Also, though JK:JA's story wasn't excellent, it wasn't horrible.

Another thing,I'd love to see Kyle in the lead role again for the sp.(with some nice gun fighting levels of course)

:jumpfire:

MikeGunther1969
05-07-2005, 07:04 PM
Add my name to the list too. I am a huge fan the entire DF/JK/MOTS/JO/JA series. There have far too many fan based levels/mods done for all 5 games, and far too many fourms/posts, etc... for Lucasrts to justignore the success of this franchise, and simply shelve the whole thing. ROTS will definately once again ignite/rekindle the Star Wars game flame in all of us, and leave us craving new games, and fill our hearts and minds with new levels/mods for all of the classics, as well as any new release which comes down the gaming pipeline.


Take all of our MOD and level work, use all of our MOD and level ideas and stories, Create a new engine, give us a sequel and ANTHOLOGY ALL IN ONE PACKAGE!! We want Jason Court again in exciting, breathtaking FMV sequences again. Do a prequel, give us the backstory, Rahn and Morgan Katarn. Maybe another DF style game bridging the gap between DF and JK. Maybe even incorporate them both somehow!!

Of course that's just how I see it, I could be wrong

PS A new Dash Rendar Game would be cool too!!...He's really not dead you know:D :D :D

jadendecar
05-07-2005, 09:51 PM
I myself am a huge fan of star wars especially JO/JA and i would love to see another choose your own character(and destiny) along with a more balanced weapon system and a good storyyline. Sign me up.
_______
jaden decar
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Anyway i would like a more balanced weapon system instead of saber rules all.

Maxstate
05-08-2005, 09:00 AM
Ahh man manipulating stuff with the force,
just like you said man i think that would put more Star Wars in Jedi academy.

I feel JO was better than JA but hey lets
hope that Jx will pwn em all.

Signed by Maxstate

Amidala from Chop Shop
05-08-2005, 11:45 AM
This is the word from LucasArts as of 5/4/2005:

At this time, we have no plans for another Jedi Knight game but we will pass along your feedback to our Production department.

Thank you,
LucasArts Public Relations

Jedi Academy came out approximately a year-and-a-half after Jedi Outcast. Jedi Academy is more than a year-and-a-half old, but not only is there no follow-up game, they aren't working on one or even have plans for another one.

After what the "community" did to Jedi Academy, you can hardly blame them for not wanting to invest time, money, and effort to make a follow-up game if the same thing is going to happen to the next game.

Here is how I put it in another forum:

Originally Posted by Quigs
I think that having a game with so much variety, will help prolong the use of a game, and only improve upon your gaming experience.

Originally posted by Amidala
That's right, and that's the problem with Jedi Academy: there is so little variety. Almost all "FFA" servers are really mass dueling, no guns, no Force, "no laming" JA+ servers. The rest are Lugormod or ForceMod III RPG servers. Where is the variety?

There are only 66 Duel servers, and on a Friday night only 17 are being used, 49 of them are totally empty. There are only two Power Duel servers.

Tonight there are only 13 Siege servers with any humans on them.

There are only 25 TFFA servers, and on a Friday night all but 5 of them are totally empty.

There are only 20 CTF servers, and all but 4 of them are empty or have only bots.

Where is the variety? Because so many players have left due to boredom playing the game with 80% of it disabled, "honor codes" and "rules" that punish people for playing the game by the real rules, and abusive admins who humiliate, kick, and ban players on a whim, there isn't much left.

Meanwhile, another Quake III engine game, Call of Duty, which came out only three months after Jedi Academy, has 4,182 servers with 3,539 players tonight.

Even the oldest Quake III engine game, Quake III, has 2,755 servers with 2,630 players tonight.

Compare that to Jedi Academy, based on the same engine, and with the magic of the Star Wars universe, lightsabers, and Force powers going for it, with a pitiful 476 servers, most of which are empty, and less than 1,000 players on a Friday night.

No wonder LucasArts has "no plans for another Jedi Knight game" at this time. A "community" that punishes and humiliates players, tells players to "go play Quake or UT2004", disables 80% of the game's features, calls people who use weapons other than their favorite one "gun noobs" (imagine calling someone that on a Call of Duty or Quake III server), and uses game servers mostly to chat and play act doesn't deserve the time, money, and effort that a company and programmers put into designing, programming, and marketing a new game.

All the fools happily "punishing rule-breakers" on their servers don't realize the harm they are doing. They are too focused on controlling and dominating their own little worlds. They are missing the big picture.

Meanwhile, KOTOR came out for PC after Jedi Academy, and KOTOR II is already out. Battlefront II has been announced, even though Battlefront is less than a year old.

A "community" that actively punishes players and drives them out of the game can't prosper and thrive. Any smart game company is not going to invest time and money making a new game for a self-destructive "community", when they can get a much better return on their investment making new games for better communities.

kasser
05-08-2005, 02:29 PM
me too, hoping there will be a new JK game

whatever its stroy my wishes will be that Kyle will have a rule in it (we liked that cool dude and its a shame to dump him now!)


BTW:

Dark Forces = DOOM 2 Engine ... they didnt made an engine by theirselves

JDKnite188
05-08-2005, 03:10 PM
I don't see another JK game happening, and, over time, I have begun to not care. LEC is a company that doesn't care for the quality of the game itself, but rather prefers to release and make quick cash. Okay, I admit there are exceptions, mainly KOTOR and BF (well, it had a rough start before patches). On the other hand, my opinion works with the JK series since the Q3-based sequels don't even compare to the detail and innovation in the original JK and expansion MotS. LEC used to produce titles that compete with other games; now they have dissolved into a mode where they are trying to make the best "Star Wars" game. Who asked for the separate category? The fanboy. LEC complied, knowing that they could hit the big money there.

The developers aren't even given the chance to even compete with big game titles, such as UT2k4 and Call of Duty as mentioned.

No more for LEC, no more.

Sequels are supposed to outdo their predecessors. Think about this and take a look around.

StormHammer
05-11-2005, 02:34 AM
Originally posted by Amidala from Chop Shop
This is the word from LucasArts as of 5/4/2005:



Jedi Academy came out approximately a year-and-a-half after Jedi Outcast. Jedi Academy is more than a year-and-a-half old, but not only is there no follow-up game, they aren't working on one or even have plans for another one.

After what the "community" did to Jedi Academy, you can hardly blame them for not wanting to invest time, money, and effort to make a follow-up game if the same thing is going to happen to the next game.

Here is how I put it in another forum:



Originally posted by Amidala
That's right, and that's the problem with Jedi Academy: there is so little variety. Almost all "FFA" servers are really mass dueling, no guns, no Force, "no laming" JA+ servers. The rest are Lugormod or ForceMod III RPG servers. Where is the variety?

There are only 66 Duel servers, and on a Friday night only 17 are being used, 49 of them are totally empty. There are only two Power Duel servers.

Tonight there are only 13 Siege servers with any humans on them.

There are only 25 TFFA servers, and on a Friday night all but 5 of them are totally empty.

There are only 20 CTF servers, and all but 4 of them are empty or have only bots.

Where is the variety? Because so many players have left due to boredom playing the game with 80% of it disabled, "honor codes" and "rules" that punish people for playing the game by the real rules, and abusive admins who humiliate, kick, and ban players on a whim, there isn't much left.

Meanwhile, another Quake III engine game, Call of Duty, which came out only three months after Jedi Academy, has 4,182 servers with 3,539 players tonight.

Even the oldest Quake III engine game, Quake III, has 2,755 servers with 2,630 players tonight.

Compare that to Jedi Academy, based on the same engine, and with the magic of the Star Wars universe, lightsabers, and Force powers going for it, with a pitiful 476 servers, most of which are empty, and less than 1,000 players on a Friday night.

No wonder LucasArts has "no plans for another Jedi Knight game" at this time. A "community" that punishes and humiliates players, tells players to "go play Quake or UT2004", disables 80% of the game's features, calls people who use weapons other than their favorite one "gun noobs" (imagine calling someone that on a Call of Duty or Quake III server), and uses game servers mostly to chat and play act doesn't deserve the time, money, and effort that a company and programmers put into designing, programming, and marketing a new game.

All the fools happily "punishing rule-breakers" on their servers don't realize the harm they are doing. They are too focused on controlling and dominating their own little worlds. They are missing the big picture.

Meanwhile, KOTOR came out for PC after Jedi Academy, and KOTOR II is already out. Battlefront II has been announced, even though Battlefront is less than a year old.

A "community" that actively punishes players and drives them out of the game can't prosper and thrive. Any smart game company is not going to invest time and money making a new game for a self-destructive "community", when they can get a much better return on their investment making new games for better communities. [/QUOTE]

Quoted complete for emphasis...because I agree with everything you just said. A portion of the community basically killed the game stone dead for everyone else who wanted the MP experience.

I moved onto playing CoD myself (it's held my attention for many, many months), and although you might still get idiots, team killers and people shouting 'cheater/hacker' at anyone who shoots them - the majority of players just brush it off as the nonsense it is and play the game how it's meant to be played. I have yet to see anyone try to 'roleplay' the game. Most of the servers are clan servers, and the admins simply wouldn't stand for it. The whole community takes the game more seriously - although I will say that recently I've seen more people calling people 'MG noobs' because they're using rifles. :rolleyes:

So in this respect, on the one hand I would like to see another Jedi Knight game - but on the other I would earnestly dread what that portion of the community would do to the online experience again. I think the only possible way of salvaging it is to have an actual RP game mode built into the game out of the box so that people so inclined have no reason to bother the rest of the community. Some people obviously enjoy it...so give them what they want, and give back the default MP modes to the rest of the community.

That is the only way I could see it working. Otherwise it's doomed to failure online - and therefore an unwise financial investment. Furthermore, there are some very strong MP games competing out there, and it would take something special to attract a lot of players back into the JK universe (particularly clans). Look at how Tribes Vengeance bombed...

Personally, I'd like to see an MP only version that expands on Siege - in the same way the Unreal Tournament games have evolved. But I suppose they see 'Battlefront' as filling that gap - unfortunately. :rolleyes:

Prime
05-11-2005, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by StormHammer
A portion of the community basically killed the game stone dead for everyone else who wanted the MP experience. Especially now. Anyone knew who buys this game is going to be completely unaware of the "honour rules" and is going to get called a newb or gay as soon as he swings at someone. After the initial "WTF?" they will find that apart from a few places (chop shop) every server is like that. They will then proceed to go on to other games. There is no way for the community to grow with players who play the game as it was intended.

It really is a shame.

Amidala from Chop Shop
05-12-2005, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by Prime
Especially now. Anyone knew who buys this game is going to be completely unaware of the "honour rules" and is going to get called a newb or gay as soon as he swings at someone.
As this poor guy discovered http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=148602

Originally posted by StormHammer
So in this respect, on the one hand I would like to see another Jedi Knight game - but on the other I would earnestly dread what that portion of the community would do to the online experience again. I think the only possible way of salvaging it is to have an actual RP game mode built into the game out of the box so that people so inclined have no reason to bother the rest of the community. Some people obviously enjoy it...so give them what they want, and give back the default MP modes to the rest of the community.

That is the only way I could see it working. Otherwise it's doomed to failure online - and therefore an unwise financial investment.
Actually, it's even easier to fix than that. They don't need to make a whole RP game mode, with just some relatively simple changes they could make everyone happy: the no Force no guns no "laming" saber duelers and the traditional competitive deathmatch players. The saber duelers could do their "thing" with no possibility of "laming" and no need for admin mods, admins, and the abuse that inevitably follows, and everyone else could play the game the way it was designed to be played. People would no longer be punished or driven from the game, and the game would be way more popular and profitable for LucasArts.

The only people who would be unhappy are the "professional lamers" who go to "no laming" servers and attack players for fun, and the hall-monitors-with-lightsabers (admins) who "love to admin" as one of them said, because there would be no need for them.

DarthCobra
05-25-2005, 02:08 AM
Im not gonna read all this but just wanted to show support....


DO IT!! MAKE MORE JEDI KNIGHT GAMES!! THEY SOLD WELL!!! JUST DO IT!!

End rant.

jasond22
04-14-2008, 02:15 PM
I think the best "chance" to reach LucasArts is to sign the petitiononline.com petition here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/jkdf4/petition.html

And also post to the LucasArts forum JK thread here:
http://forums.lucasarts.com/thread.jspa?threadID=93209&tstart=0

Heck, I'd be happy with even just an expansion pack to Jedi Academy. Just give me some new single-player levels, story, & cut scenes and I'll pay. Come on LucasArts, milk the series!

Mikouen
04-14-2008, 02:55 PM
Companies never listen to those petitions. Sad but true fact. LucasArts have received hundreds of those, totalling tens of thousands of signatures, to no avail.

First they'd need to find someone to develop the game in the first place. Games don't grow on trees. Raven Software are working on an upcoming Wolfenstein game, so count them out.

jasond22
04-14-2008, 03:04 PM
>LucasArts have received hundreds of those, totalling tens of thousands of signatures, to no avail.

I know. That's why I wrote "chance" in quotes. I'm hoping for a miracle...maybe this will be one of those times that a company actually listens to what its customers want.

>First they'd need to find someone to develop the game in the first place. Games don't grow on trees.

Well, they're developing TFU for PS3 & 360, & found developers for the other platforms, I assume if they decided to to JK4 they'd either find a way to do it in-house or they'd find some developer somewhere.

But I'd be happy if they just found someone to make an expansion pack for JA. That should be cheaper for them to do, and require a less skilled set of developers, since the engine would be done. All they'd need are some artists, scripters, writers, and voice actors.

Inyri
04-14-2008, 03:57 PM
Why make an expansion pack for a 5-year-old game that admittedly wasn't very good (at all) in the first place?

jasond22
04-14-2008, 04:27 PM
>Why make an expansion pack for a 5-year-old game that admittedly wasn't very good (at all) in the first place?

Plenty of people still like it even if you didn't, I'm a big fan of lightsaber action so I really enjoyed it. If they can make some $ at it, they might as well, and what's the alternative? TFU? Which isn't out yet, will have no multiplayer, will have no ability to modify, and can only be played on consoles, and will look terrible unless you're willing to shell-out for a new console. As far as I can see there's still no substitute for JK and if they won't make JK4 the least they could do is give us some more JK action in the form of an expansion pack.

Inyri
04-14-2008, 04:29 PM
People can like a game and still admit that it's of poor quality. ;)

You're pulling at strings here and ignoring reality, I think. PC games are on the way out -- making an expansion for an obsolete game won't make them nearly as much money as making a state-of-the-art console game, which is why it'll never ever in a million years happen, by your own logic. :)

jasond22
04-14-2008, 05:08 PM
>PC games are on the way out

I don't believe that. As long as computers exist, someone will make games for them. Especially since some gamers aren't interested in consoles. The new id & Unreal engines are multi-platform. Someone will always want to get that computer market. Maybe not LucasArts, maybe not huge AAA expensive titles, but some kind of computer games will exist. And maybe even decent titles from LA.

>making an expansion for an obsolete game won't make them nearly as much money as making a state-of-the-art console game

I disagree. An expansion is much cheaper to make then developing new tech, and if it's based on technology that runs on a wide range of computers, they have a potential large base to sell to. All they have to do is pay a writer, license someone to make the mods, and put a little QA staff on it to make sure it's done well enough. I think they could very cheaply churn out an expansion, sell it for discount ($25?), and potentially earn a decent chunk of $.

I don't know why LA didn't do this long ago. DFII got Mysteries of the Sith expansion pack. Of course now they might feel such a product on an old engine wouldn't showcase enough "wow" factor, but they really should be looking too at profits, and giving customers at least a little of what they're asking for. And we want JK!

Inyri
04-14-2008, 05:11 PM
And we want JK!Speak for yourself. :)

Those of us who've been there from the beginning are fully aware that Kyle's ready for retirement. I don't see why you'd want to play as a middle-aged Jedi who's now turned into George Lucas, tbh. LucasArts needs to move on... and thankfully they seem to have done just that.

Mikouen
04-14-2008, 05:15 PM
Practically all the characters are irrelevant now, due to Lucas allowing them to be whored out in the EU materials.

Jedi are irrelevant these days. Jedi this, Jedi that, with Lucas completely ignoring the fact they're a stereotypical cliché with all the depth of a dried-up reservoir. Jedi are just not that interesting any more, because the whole Jedi thing has been whored out too, doubly so considering they've been watered down so much that if you know one Jedi's story, you know every Jedi's story. 'tis ridiculous.

Georgie Peorgie needs to learn, that too many cooks spoil the broth.

It's kinda sad. I really can't think of any way any of the Star Wars materials could be made even remotely interesting again due to the over-whoring by Lucas. Star Wars is the village bicycle of sci-fi. Kind of upsetting, really, that a good thing was spoiled so readily.

Zerimar Nyliram
04-14-2008, 05:29 PM
I would very much like to see a knew Jedi Knight game using the same engine as The Force Unleashed.

I doubt this petition will have any effect, but I will sign it nonetheless:

John "Zerimar Nyliram" Vougias

nizwiz
04-14-2008, 05:48 PM
... Jedi are just not that interesting any more ... I really can't think of any way any of the Star Wars materials could be made even remotely interesting again due to the over-whoring by Lucas. ...

What about the Sith? I think the time between the end of Darth Bane - Path of Destruction (or its sequel) and the prequel trilogy would be well suited for a game or two, where one could play as the Sith apprentice sent on some errands by the master. You know, subterfuge, sabotage, assassinations, things like that. Kind of "Sith Creed", know what I mean? But please not a console oriented "hack and slash and force pwn" game like TFU, more something like jk2 with its magnificent lightsaber control via mouse/keyboard.

jasond22
04-14-2008, 06:06 PM
Kyle's ready for retirement.
I'm not saying it has to be Kyle. Just some kind of JK-like game or expansion pack where there's plenty of lightsaber action. Though I prefer Jedi, if LucasArts feels Sith is what will bring in the buyers, then make JK-like Sith game/expansion pack.

I would very much like to see a knew Jedi Knight game using the same engine as The Force Unleashed.
Then go here & here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/jkdf4/petition.html
http://forums.lucasarts.com/thread.jspa?threadID=93209&tstart=0

Mikouen
04-14-2008, 06:13 PM
What about the Sith? I think the time between the end of Darth Bane - Path of Destruction (or its sequel) and the prequel trilogy would be well suited for a game or two, where one could play as the Sith apprentice sent on some errands by the master. You know, subterfuge, sabotage, assassinations, things like that. Kind of "Sith Creed", know what I mean? But please not a console oriented "hack and slash and force pwn" game like TFU, more something like jk2 with its magnificent lightsaber control via mouse/keyboard.They could do much better than JK2's saber system - recent games have proven that context-sensitive input has come a long, long way since the olden days. Morrowind, for example, allowed different attack types based on the slightest character motions. Granted, Morrowind did only use three basic attack types instead of freeform combos, but it's a step in the right direction - namely, away from hack-and-slash to a more elegant, focused, and definitely more realistic type of swordsmanship.

The Sith are a grey area for a game plot. There's a lot of room for development, but only if carried out properly. We're looking at more of a JK2/Oblivion hybrid as far as engine, technology and gameplay mechanics go, as a JK-styled game wouldn't really allow the freeform approach to the general rogue-like tactics we'd expect Sith to indulge in. Without the freedom, they just become more generic Jedi clones, simply sold in a different way.

The concept is solid. I'm just skeptical as to whether it could effectively be applied to the dynamic provided by the Jedi Knight series thus far.

Astor
04-14-2008, 06:36 PM
Kyle's ready for retirement.

Plus, with all the established EU stuff fleshing his activities in YV war, and Legacy of the Force, there's not much to do with him - unless you want a game recreating the ins and outs of a member of the Jedi Council :lol:

PC games are on the way out

I wouldn't go as far as saying that, but I do agree that they aren't as popular. The ever increasing technology, and higher machine demands for PC games is the result of the increase of console gaming - It's easier to buy a console for £300 pounds that will last maybe 5 years, as opposed to spending £300 pounds every year to be able to play the latest PC games.

nizwiz
04-14-2008, 06:43 PM
Well, I guess I have to try Morrowind, then. Problem is, most of the games either have a hack and slash / combo oriented swordplay or stats-based combat, both are not very satisfying. IMO jk2 has still one of the best swordplay mechanics out there, and it's definitely not hack and slash. The combination of mouse movement and keyboard makes for fairly refined combat control, especially the "foot work" is pretty well simulated.

jasond22
04-14-2008, 06:51 PM
Plus, with all the established EU stuff fleshing his activities in YV war, and Legacy of the Force, there's not much to do with him
Who cares if it's Kyle? It can be another Jedi, or even a Sith. Just as long as it offers good lightsaber action & Force powers.

>It's easier to buy a console for £300 pounds that will last maybe 5 years, as opposed to spending £300 pounds every year to be able to play the latest PC games.

So base a game on an older engine and it will run on a wide variety of systems. They could make some $ and please some customers.

Astor
04-14-2008, 07:14 PM
Who cares if it's Kyle?

I never said that it would be Kyle, I was actually stating that it would be hard for it to be Kyle - as I mentioned above, his activities are well documented.

So base a game on an older engine and it will run on a wide variety of systems. They could make some $ and please some customers.

I understand your point, but 'some' is not enough to warrant making a new game, even if it does use an older engine. The costs involved would overshadow any potential profit that would be gained by such a title.

And besides, if TFU does well, LA *might* make another JK game.

Mercenary
04-14-2008, 08:44 PM
What was the last game released by LucasArts for the PC? I think there was a strategy game in 2006. It's not looking good for PC gamers. Highly rated games like Call of Duty 4 and Crysis couldn't make a profit on the PC. EA isn't making their flagship product "Madden" for the PC this year. There are a lot of troubling signs out there.

Zerimar Nyliram
04-14-2008, 08:47 PM
What about the Sith? I think the time between the end of Darth Bane - Path of Destruction (or its sequel) and the prequel trilogy would be well suited for a game or two, where one could play as the Sith apprentice sent on some errands by the master. You know, subterfuge, sabotage, assassinations, things like that. Kind of "Sith Creed", know what I mean? But please not a console oriented "hack and slash and force pwn" game like TFU, more something like jk2 with its magnificent lightsaber control via mouse/keyboard.
I had a similar idea but set during the Legacy era, during Darth Krayt's Sith Order. The series would almost be a mirror of Kyle Katarn's saga, only the direct opposite: the first game is strictly an FPS akin to Dark Forces, only you are a stormtrooper sided with the Sith infiltrating and destroying those loyal to Roan Fel. And then the following games would be just like the Jedi Knight series only you are training to become a Sith.

I envisioned the series being entitled Sith Lord; a nice foil to Jedi Knight.

Zarnik
04-15-2008, 01:38 PM
A new jedi knight game thumbs up :band1 :band1 :r2d2:
Not cuz I think some of the people of lucas arts look at this forum, but if I do. I got some tips for ya...throw away the ugly cowbly looking kyle katarn. And make the main charachter be obi wan kenobi student of qui gon. 16 years old. And use a new engine, maybe the same engine that made assasin´s creed would be cool. And update everything, this has to be a top game...it must be better than the battlefield series...and yeah it must be awesome..you wont loose money on it, jedis are still cool...and i assure you people will buy it...:duel:

but take away the nerd factor...like may the force be with you and stuff. And the stupid droids...>_>

razorace
04-15-2008, 01:42 PM
What was the last game released by LucasArts for the PC? I think there was a strategy game in 2006. It's not looking good for PC gamers. Highly rated games like Call of Duty 4 and Crysis couldn't make a profit on the PC. EA isn't making their flagship product "Madden" for the PC this year. There are a lot of troubling signs out there.
I don't think they're not making a profit. I think the issue is that consoles is where the money is at. It's much, much easier for a consumer to purchase a console game and just play it vs a computer game, where there's system requirements, install times, etc.

Personally, I think the solution is to come up with a hardware rating system that will allow a standardized system for system requirements. That way users could download the evaluation software and have a simple rating for system requirements. "My system plays 140 series games or lower and 100 games or lower at Max Graphics".

In addition, developers really should work on making their games plug-and-play compatible with a harddrive install as a optional feature to speed up load times.

Finally, developers really need to avoid revolving door system requirements. While it's a strength of computer systems to be upgradable and faster than consoles, there's really no need for new games to not be compatible with systems built in the last few years.

GeneralPloKoon
04-15-2008, 03:03 PM
I would love to see another Jedi Knight game....

jasond22
04-15-2008, 07:14 PM
A new jedi knight game thumbs up
Then post here & here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/jkdf4/petition.html
http://forums.lucasarts.com/thread.jspa?threadID=93209&tstart=0
(I know, it will probably not amount to anything, but it's easy to try anyway)

I would love to see another Jedi Knight game....
Then go post at those 2 places.

It's much, much easier for a consumer to purchase a console game and just play it vs a computer game, where there's system requirements, install times, etc.
It is easier. Which is why most of my gaming is on console. But if games didn't push all hardware to the brink of failure all the time, it would run more easily on a wider range of systems. An expansion pack to J.A. would do just that (or a new J.K. based on id Tech 4).

>developers really need to avoid revolving door system requirements. While it's a strength of computer systems to be upgradable and faster than consoles, there's really no need for new games to not be compatible with systems built in the last few years.

I think developers think if the games don't have all the latest sizzle, no one will buy them. Forgetting that gameplay makes games popular, not just eye-candy. And look at the growing market for simpler games...games with simple gameplay, or interesting gameplay but simple graphics. It's a market that could be chased after by using older engines (i.e.--id Tech 4/DOOM 3 engine). An older engine with a good story can be cheaper to develop, have a wider possible install base, and still have great gameplay and be a good game. Like an expansion pack for J.A. (if they won't make a new one).

razorace
04-16-2008, 01:05 PM
You don't really have to use older engines for lower system requirements, it's just that newer engines need to be more backwards compatable.

The Unreal engine comes to mind. UT2004 could run on a huge range of systems.

Echo-7
04-17-2008, 01:11 PM
I want a NEW JEDI KNIGHT GAME

signed

by Echo aka. Nas aka. Myc

jasond22
04-17-2008, 08:57 PM
I want a NEW JEDI KNIGHT GAME
Don't sign here. No one will ever see it.

Post here & here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/jkdf4/petition.html
http://forums.lucasarts.com/thread.jspa?threadID=93209&tstart=0

DarthJacen
04-18-2008, 11:07 AM
With the rule of two, for the Sith, returned in the Legacy of the Force series. The Imperials are out of sight and out of mind until the very end. The Yuuzhan Vong have been defeated. (Jaden Korr and Kyle Katarn both make cameo appearances in the series.) My question is this? Who would they fight? The former rebels and the Imperials are side by side in this conflict towards the end. The Sith rule the former Rebellion, Darth Caedus aka Jacen and Tahiri his apprentice, and the Jedi are exiles in their own country. So, although I'm with you on making a new one, but think about where it would go in the storyline. Yes, it has to be cannon, since the other stories are cannon.

DarthJacen

jasond22
04-18-2008, 03:36 PM
They can extend canon, extend the timeline, set it back in time (I don't care if it's Kyle, just some good lightsaber fun), or interweave it with current canon (look how TFU takes place in between Eps III & IV). I don't care if it's Kyle, it doesn't even have to be Jedi (though I prefer that), just some good lightsaber fun.

Inyri
04-18-2008, 03:39 PM
If it wasn't a Jedi, how the heck would it be a Jedi Knight game? The Jedi Knight series is about Kyle Katarn. If Kyle Katarn isn't in it, it's not part of the Jedi Knight series.

Geez. That'd be like having a Metroid game without Samus. It just isn't going to happen. You obviously don't want another JK game, you just want another Star Wars shooter. They're not necessarily the same. :)

Astor
04-18-2008, 03:53 PM
If it wasn't a Jedi, how the heck would it be a Jedi Knight game? The Jedi Knight series is about Kyle Katarn. If Kyle Katarn isn't in it, it's not part of the Jedi Knight series.

Geez. That'd be like having a Metroid game without Samus. It just isn't going to happen. You obviously don't want another JK game, you just want another Star Wars shooter. They're not necessarily the same. :)

I agree with that - Kyle Katarn *is* 'Jedi Knight'. And before anyone says that you didnt play him in JK3, he was in it, and the player had a direct connection to him - any Jedi Knight game really has to have him in it, or it just wouldn't be Jedi Knight.

Zarnik
04-19-2008, 09:52 AM
Why must kyle be in it, hes just a stupid looking farmer. Personally I would like to play with some of the guys from the movies. For example, Darth maul. Who the hell is he, he just appeared in the first movie as a mysterious sith lord. But who is he really? O.o Hes fast strong and a perfect dark sith lord for a new sith knight game. Yeah why must it be "jedi" :D

Or why not the most powerful jedi master yoda, when he is YOUNG! Imagine how powerful he must have been when he was like 100 years old. The movies last for about 40 years or so right. Think how much yoda must have experienced if he is 900 years old. lots of cool stories I bet...

Inyri
04-19-2008, 02:02 PM
Why must kyle be in it, hes just a stupid looking farmer.Because he's the main character of the series.

You people really must learn the difference between "The Jedi Knight Series" and "A Game Where You Can Use a Lightsaber."

90SK
04-19-2008, 09:01 PM
I don't see much room for interpretation with Kyle's life, now that he's been incorporated into so many other stories.

I haven't read the topic fully, bear with me, but just my two cents: I'd like a game LIKE Jedi Knight, but another JK game seems unlikely.

Echo-7
04-20-2008, 12:55 PM
i see enough room.

what about a jedi knight game with kyle, where he fights the yuuzhan vong?

from wikipedia..

New Jedi Order

In the New Jedi Order series of novels, Kyle became the academy's foremost battlemaster, a close friend of Luke Skywalker, and a respected Jedi Master. During the Yuuzhan Vong invasion portrayed in the New Jedi Order series, Kyle helped develop strategies against the invaders, and participated in the rescue of human captives of the Imperial Remnant world Ord Sedra from the Yuuzhan Vong. Near the end of the war, the living planet Zonama Sekot agreed to help the Republic; Kyle was one of several Jedi Knights bonded to seed-partners and provided with Sekotan starships to use in Sekot's defence.

Kyle heard a rumor that the Sith still existed. Due to his experiences on Dromund Kaas, Kyle investigated after the invasion, following clues from Ord Sedra in the Clacis Sector to Yaga Minor, resulting in the Cloak of the Sith. During the mission, Kyle was captured by the Dark Jedi Daye Azur-Jamin, who presumably attempted to turn Kyle back to the dark side. After a successful rescue mission led by Jan Ors and Jaden Korr, Kyle revealed all that he knew about the new threat. A Force-sensitive Yuuzhan Vong is causing havoc in the galaxy, and it's apparent that an even more powerful threat looms on the horizon. (So far, these events haven't appeared in any stories, but only in the SWRPG and other supplemental material.)

TKA-001
04-20-2008, 01:06 PM
Sorry to be the deliverer of bad news, but this is a waste of time. Petitions didn't bring back Sam & Max 2 or Loom 2. They didn't bring back Star Wars Galaxies Pre-CU, they didn't get us Monkey Island 5, and they didn't bring back Indiana Jones and the Iron Phoenix.

Echo-7
04-20-2008, 05:01 PM
well, then at least let us have a dream of a jk4 >.<

90SK
04-20-2008, 05:38 PM
Sorry to be the deliverer of bad news, but this is a waste of time. Petitions didn't bring back Sam & Max 2 or Loom 2. They didn't bring back Star Wars Galaxies Pre-CU, they didn't get us Monkey Island 5, and they didn't bring back Indiana Jones and the Iron Phoenix.

Wow, there was a Loom 2 petition? That's a surprise.

Agent_Katarn00
04-22-2008, 11:12 AM
I demand another game where you play Kyle!
Kyle Katarn is awesome!
He is sweeeet!

DarthJacen
04-23-2008, 03:53 PM
i see enough room.

what about a jedi knight game with kyle, where he fights the yuuzhan vong?

from wikipedia..

New Jedi Order

In the New Jedi Order series of novels, Kyle became the academy's foremost battlemaster, a close friend of Luke Skywalker, and a respected Jedi Master. During the Yuuzhan Vong invasion portrayed in the New Jedi Order series, Kyle helped develop strategies against the invaders, and participated in the rescue of human captives of the Imperial Remnant world Ord Sedra from the Yuuzhan Vong. Near the end of the war, the living planet Zonama Sekot agreed to help the Republic; Kyle was one of several Jedi Knights bonded to seed-partners and provided with Sekotan starships to use in Sekot's defence.

Kyle heard a rumor that the Sith still existed. Due to his experiences on Dromund Kaas, Kyle investigated after the invasion, following clues from Ord Sedra in the Clacis Sector to Yaga Minor, resulting in the Cloak of the Sith. During the mission, Kyle was captured by the Dark Jedi Daye Azur-Jamin, who presumably attempted to turn Kyle back to the dark side. After a successful rescue mission led by Jan Ors and Jaden Korr, Kyle revealed all that he knew about the new threat. A Force-sensitive Yuuzhan Vong is causing havoc in the galaxy, and it's apparent that an even more powerful threat looms on the horizon. (So far, these events haven't appeared in any stories, but only in the SWRPG and other supplemental material.)

First of the the bigger event is happening in the Legacy of the Force book series. Second, you're right about Kyle's and Jaden's involvement in the last three series.
Third, I love the idea.

But, ask yourself this? One of the reason's we liked the Academy was that it was a mixture of jedi on jedi vs jedi vs everyone else. The Yuuzhan Vong fight completely different than Jedi. That would be hard to put into the game.

My suggestion would be to pick up the story at the height of Jacen/ Darth Caedus' power and influence. The last two books of the Legacy of the Force series, and do it like KoTOR did with the comic books.

However, unlike Dark Forces, and Dark Forces II, which also came out with novelized versions of the game, the book are already written with the final one coming out May 13, 2008. We're going to know what will happen which doesn't leave the game developers any room for dark or light side endings.

Atomsk
04-23-2008, 06:37 PM
I Want a sequel. Doubt it will happen though.

jasond22
04-30-2008, 12:07 PM
The Jedi Knight series is about Kyle Katarn. If Kyle Katarn isn't in it, it's not part of the Jedi Knight series.
In J.A. Kyle isn't very important. Is J.A. still a J.K. game? What about JK:MotS where you play Mara? I just want good gameplay and a good story, I don't think it HAS to involve Kyle. If you ONLY want Kyle, then the series may well be dead...I'd rather have new stories/characters than to see no more JK-like games. Heck, I don't care if they call it J.K...just another JK-like game.

>You people really must learn the difference between "The Jedi Knight Series" and "A Game Where You Can Use a Lightsaber."

I'd be happy with a JK-like game that isn't in the JK series then. I don't care what they call it.

I'd like a game LIKE Jedi Knight, but another JK game seems unlikely.
Well, then perhaps sign here & here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/jkdf4/petition.html
http://forums.lucasarts.com/thread.jspa?threadID=93209&tstart=0

this is a waste of time
Probably so, but it only costs you 2 minutes and maybe a miracle will occur. Trust the Force ;)

I Want a sequel.
Well then go post at the 2 places written above.

SpyderGreywolf
04-30-2008, 10:49 PM
In J.A. Kyle isn't very important. The final boss of the dark side path isn't important? Let me have some o' them shrooms.

DarthJacen
05-01-2008, 12:46 PM
The final boss of the dark side path isn't important? Let me have some o' them shrooms.

Actually, he's right, the canonical path is Light side male. The dark side path is not canonical in the time line. Kyle doesn't even help you on Taspir 3 or Byss. The only time he helps you is on the first two Vjun missions then he disappears for the final part, conveniently I might add.

umx48
07-18-2008, 11:20 PM
Ill give my name up please make another, ill buy 3 copies of the game Umx48

DeadYorick
07-26-2008, 04:36 PM
Yeah its going to be hard for Lucasarts to make a new Jedi Knight game. It might take a while when they are starved for sequels. Personally I would want to see a Jedi Knight game utilizing new gameplays and new strategies. Like ducking into cover to avoid blaster fire and lightsabers being useful only in crowds and duels. Plus have Kyle's orange jacket back. It made him look more badass

Anyway petitions very rarely work in the case of getting sequels. But at least we are trying to do something. Since if Lucasarts puts a few sequels out in the air, they might as well choose the game series that has people petitioning for a sequel.