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TK-8252
03-12-2005, 07:31 PM
It's kinda frustrating me that people are refusing to be on the Trando team, and the Trandos lose horribly. I really hope that in a patch or something, they make it so you are always auto-selected, so we don't get these floods of people joining the Republic and neglecting the Trandos.

Why people are so petty that they MUST be an "OMG TEH COMMANDO" if it means that the match is going to suck and the Republic is going to beat the Trandos 5 to 0 is so totally beyond me.

There is NO advantage to being a commando, and there is NO shame in being those ugly lizards from SP. There's more shame in flocking to the commandos and ruining the match.

So please, to all who play team games in multiplayer - suck it up and join the Trando team for god's sake!

[/rant]

Kurgan
03-12-2005, 07:57 PM
Human dead.

JDKnite188
03-12-2005, 08:25 PM
Bossk > *

Okay, that should motivate some people.

Kurgan
03-12-2005, 08:33 PM
Yeah I think some people are clueless. Playing CTF or Assault, almost without fail, in the last round of the game, at least one more person will join the Republic team to unbalance it, even if they are already winning by a large margin. Very annoying.

Blue is the "default team" where players are first added.

Red team gets to go first in Assault (for the very first round anyway). ;)


Yeah, I'm guessing people either want to be the "good guys" or else they have the mistaken impression (gleaned from playing the SP campaign) that the Commandos are somehow more powerful. I haven't seen anything to convince me that in MP the ACP Repeater and the DC-17m Blaster Attachment are not equal.

Sides, why wouldn't you want to be the Trandos? Their taunts are scary and rule!

I have my F8 key (set right in the menu) to "Switch Teams" and I have no problem switching if it's needed. I hope bots are added to this game to solve some of the imbalance problems...

Oidar
03-12-2005, 08:34 PM
I think the Trandos are awesome I usually end up on the Trando side and have no problems with it. Most people don't set their games up for auto-select. IT should be Auto-select in most cases cause people seem to be like. OMG trando nooooooooooo.
I've been on more winning Trando teams than I have Clones. People are petty anyway. Its like omg I've gotta play the good guy or I'll suck horribly. I've even seen people spec an entire match till someone leaves the clone team. Its sad really. Most people just suck.

TK-8252
03-12-2005, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by JDKnite188
Bossk > *

Okay, that should motivate some people.

Hey, someone should make a Bossk class! :)

What would be better is to just rename the Trandoshans "Separatists" so they can have more options for classes, like Battle Droids and such.

Kurgan
03-12-2005, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by Oidar
I think the Trandos are awesome I usually end up on the Trando side and have no problems with it. Most people don't set their games up for auto-select. IT should be Auto-select in most cases cause people seem to be like. OMG trando nooooooooooo.
I've been on more winning Trando teams than I have Clones. People are petty anyway. Its like omg I've gotta play the good guy or I'll suck horribly. I've even seen people spec an entire match till someone leaves the clone team. Its sad really. Most people just suck.

The speccing thing is also funny. I've seen people spec for long long periods of time when the teams are unbalanced.

I mean, yeah, a lot of people are new and don't know how to play, or are afraid of being "schooled" and want to wait for the best opportunity. They may even have legit reasons for using spectator mode.

But I have to beg and plead with them to join the action, it's silly.

It's almost as if they are JUST WAITING for one team to gain the advantage so they can join the winning one (and vicariously achieve some glory for themselves they are afraid they couldn't achieve on their own). At least that's my jaded, cynical side talking. ;P

PhireStorm
03-12-2005, 10:51 PM
I admit, I like the clones better. BUT i still go on the trando team everyonce in a while. They have cool skins n' such, its just that they have red shields. And, for me a leats red=bad, blue=good. I end up ignoring the clones and shooting at my teammates until i realize what Im doing. lol:(

Shok_Tinoktin
03-12-2005, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by PhireStorm
I admit, I like the clones better. BUT i still go on the trando team everyonce in a while. They have cool skins n' such, its just that they have red shields. And, for me a leats red=bad, blue=good. I end up ignoring the clones and shooting at my teammates until i realize what Im doing. lol:(

Yeah, I found the red thing to be a little annoying, too (although i got used to it pretty quickly). But I find horribly unbalance teams to be even more annoying. Teams that are off by one can make a big enough difference (especially in assault and ctf), but a few minutes ago I got this:

http://www.geocities.com/jedi_duck_1138/dslkjfasl.JPG

(we still one 30-26 without the teams changing)

Rogue15
03-13-2005, 03:21 AM
omg if i had this i would so be a trando!!!

Nokill
03-13-2005, 06:16 AM
i go on the team that has the smalles amount of players
i don't care trando or republic

trando have better aiming guns *my opinion*
and the clones have some more better options on there guns

so i don't care both are good :D

Shok_Tinoktin
03-13-2005, 06:47 AM
Originally posted by Nokill
trando have better aiming guns *my opinion*
and the clones have some more better options on there guns

Zuh? Trandos and Clones can get all the same guns, the only difference is the starting gun (and the two seem to be identical in function). If you are talking about who makes them, it has nothing to do with which side you choose in the game.

Joetheeskimo
03-13-2005, 10:15 AM
Wxatly, and the begginning trando repeater sucks...it takes 300 shots to take a clone down....the DC-17m takes about 15. :mad: Us trandos can't depend on running around and grabbing DC-17's to survive, while the clones get it automatically. When we're under fire, we're usually caught with our beginning weapon.

I play trando all the time, but that doesn't make much of a difference, because I always join in time for the clones to be 20 ahead :(

TK-8252
03-13-2005, 12:56 PM
I don't see any advantage in the ACP Repeater or the DC-17m Blaster in MP. You must remember how wimpy the Repeater is in SP and think it's not been changed for MP, because it has been changed.

In fact, I find myself grabbing a Repeater while I'm playing on the Republic so I can confuse the Trandos. It's all good, man!

tommygunner
03-13-2005, 01:51 PM
both the acp and the dc-17 are pretty much the same power... and yea a lot of ppl like teh republic more... warm blooded soft skins!!

Kurgan
03-13-2005, 01:57 PM
The two guns seem identical to me (I've tested it: the ammo count, reloading, melee attack and firing rate are the same, and I can get kills with both), and that would make perfect sense for balance purposes. If you possess both weapons, you essentially have double ammo, that's a good thing.

Ammo count: 160 (40 rounds per clip x 4 clips)
That's about 7 seconds of continuous firing before you have to reload (each clip).

As detailed on my in-development site here (http://www.republiccommando.net/bootcamp/weapons.shtml).

Also, since in MP you can't "adjust aim" with iron sights like you can in SP, yet another 'difference' between the two guns is erased.

Heck, the guns are so much the same that they both have the odd "explosions appear before the blaster bolt actually hits" effect! Model + sound effect swap (and yellow bolts instead of blue).

I've also run into people who whine "Oh #@%& why do I have to be the stupid ugly lizards??"

Sheesh, suck it up you prima donnas!

Btw, I've played HJekk and he (or she) is quite the player. ; ) Fun when the community is this small you tend to run into familiar names!


As others have said, the apparent bias against Trandoshans probably has a lot to do with the ideas ingrained in people from Single Player.

Kurgan
03-13-2005, 02:39 PM
Playing as a Trando in RC reminds me of the fun I had playing as a Skaarj in UT.

Anyway, how could you not help but love a mug like this?

Oidar
03-13-2005, 03:21 PM
Yea if the Trandos looked like the Skarrj from UT2K4 then people wouldn't want to tangle with them, especially if their wrist blades were their melee weapons.

http://img125.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img125&image=skaarj9br.jpg

Nokill
03-14-2005, 01:10 AM
yes why don't ppl join the red team :(

i have bin playing some yesterday and i even ended up whit 2 agains 7 and it whas not fun at least i had the flag but still we lost 3-1 :o

Kurgan
03-14-2005, 02:20 AM
Originally posted by Oidar
Yea if the Trandos looked like the Skarrj from UT2K4 then people wouldn't want to tangle with them, especially if their wrist blades were their melee weapons.

http://img125.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img125&image=skaarj9br.jpg

Uhh.. is he nude? I don't remember if they were nude in the original UT, but somehow they looked a lot tougher and cooler back then... ;)

http://www.republiccommando.net/bootcamp/tackle.jpg

Nokill
03-14-2005, 09:33 AM
hey kergan on what server do you play then we can go Trando togethere and kill them soft skins :D

Kurgan
03-14-2005, 11:04 AM
Hehe. I've been playing almost exclusively on my own server (so I can use my own settings and not have to worry about the server closing unexectedly), aptly titled "Kurgan's Meatgrinder."

Due to the (lack of) server tools, it's non-dedicated, and only up when I'm playing usually.

Joetheeskimo
03-14-2005, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by Kurgan
Hehe. I've been playing almost exclusively on my own server (so I can use my own settings and not have to worry about the server closing unexectedly), aptly titled "Kurgan's Meatgrinder."

Due to the (lack of) server tools, it's non-dedicated, and only up when I'm playing usually.

Oooh, when I got on MP for the first time, I noticed that server! :D I didn't join, wasn't sure if it was really you. Cool :cool:

Oidar
03-14-2005, 04:43 PM
Actually the one I posted was from UT2K4. Theres a whole bunch of great looking ones in that game. Along with the Gen Mo'Kai, which I think look much cooler than the Skaarj.

Nokill
03-15-2005, 03:00 AM
alright if i see it ill join it :D

KillaBite
03-15-2005, 01:23 PM
There is an option for autobalance in the server options. I'm not sure if it works. But if it does, turn it on people. Look for a permanent dedicated server from my clan AOD called the AOD Stomping Grounds. I've been running tests with it and I should have a permanent home in the next few days. I will have autobalance on (for whatever it does) and I'll trando it up in a second. I always choose auto myself.

-KB

BeBop
03-15-2005, 02:05 PM
I'm pretty sure Auto Balance just prevents people from joining a team that has more players than the other, however if any people leave from one team, it won't force anyone on the other team to switch. And that results in having highly unbalanced teams at times.

Nokill
03-16-2005, 04:26 AM
yes evryone vs 1 person :mad:
now thats hard!!!

Oidar at Work
03-16-2005, 11:29 AM
One thing I cannot stand are the whiners. Last night on Kurgan's server some tool was whining like I've never seen before. Every other word out of his mouth was, noob this and noob that. I can understand someone getting pissed cause they keep dying. Thats natural but this guy was just beyond anything I've ever seen before. The best part was his very hollow "threat" where he said he'd bring his whole clan (him and his two closet buddies) to Kurgans server and bring on the hurt. I wish I could remember this guys name cause I'd keep an eye open for him on other servers but yea my point to this.... SUCK IT UP. Its crazy how many people forget this is a game. Anyway, thats my rant for now, back to work I go.

deloused
03-16-2005, 11:45 AM
Is this a big joke? I PREFER playing as Trandos! I find the crosshair on the ACP is much easier to aim with than the crappy circle that the clones get.

I have been in games where it's been 1 (me) vs 5 or even 8, which is absolutely ridiculous imo. It'd be better if it was like CS, where you CAN'T join a team if the number of players on it is more than two above the opposite team.

I'd say it should be open to choice (I love being trandos, so don't take my choice away from me!), but there should be some kind of protection in place to stop there being 8vs1 matches.

Nokill
03-16-2005, 12:28 PM
Shut up and be a Commando :mad:

this time it whas the othere way around i whas trando and full on my way of a nice fictory and all up a sudden it seems there are almost no more commando's left :eek:

BeBop
03-16-2005, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Oidar at Work
One thing I cannot stand are the whiners. Last night on Kurgan's server some tool was whining like I've never seen before. Every other word out of his mouth was, noob this and noob that. I can understand someone getting pissed cause they keep dying. Thats natural but this guy was just beyond anything I've ever seen before. The best part was his very hollow "threat" where he said he'd bring his whole clan (him and his two closet buddies) to Kurgans server and bring on the hurt. I wish I could remember this guys name cause I'd keep an eye open for him on other servers.

I was there when that happened. his name was IL_delta_something(i think a number) he was annoying to no end...

I have gotten in situation where no one is on clones... but its usually trandos that are small. Either way people need to try to balance the teams. Or LA needs to get a better balancer.

Kurgan
03-16-2005, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by Oidar at Work
One thing I cannot stand are the whiners. Last night on Kurgan's server some tool was whining like I've never seen before. Every other word out of his mouth was, noob this and noob that. I can understand someone getting pissed cause they keep dying. Thats natural but this guy was just beyond anything I've ever seen before. The best part was his very hollow "threat" where he said he'd bring his whole clan (him and his two closet buddies) to Kurgans server and bring on the hurt. I wish I could remember this guys name cause I'd keep an eye open for him on other servers but yea my point to this.... SUCK IT UP. Its crazy how many people forget this is a game. Anyway, thats my rant for now, back to work I go.

Ah yes, that was IL_Delta_One. Don't forget he also threatened that he could hack our computers! What a guy... ;)

Yeah, games can get intense, but people just look like dopes when they descend to that level. Get a grip!

Nokill
03-16-2005, 02:35 PM
this is the reason games have age labels on them :D

some ppl yust get a litle mad i gues but this is a realy strange way ;)

hope some kind of admin tool comes so we can kick litle children like these

*im guessing he's 6 years old and holds a mouse for the first time*

Oidar at Work
03-16-2005, 03:08 PM
Really with some people its hard to say. I started to get mouthy with him but I can't stand people like that. They annoy the hell out of me. It really sucks when you can't enjoy the game cause of some stupid moron that doesn't like the fact hes not winning.
I've played some of the best games of RC on Kurgans server cause theres no tolerance for people that whine and complain AND cause on Kurgans server people actually talk while their playing. When your on a team your team-mates are actually trying to work out some kind of co-ordinated attack. Best server I've been on yet.

OH and those people that whine about lag really piss me off as well. Boo****inhoo you got a little lag, it happens to everyone and you don't hear them complain. Bah! stupid people. I'd like to hit them all with bricks.

Nokill
03-17-2005, 01:28 AM
yes thats the nicest way of playing
mostly im the only guy giving some commands sometimes its works and if i have the flag the enamy gets litterly shot of my head :D

and i got a clean run

and othere times i give the flag to someone else and i do kamikaze and get our flag back and if im lucky also get the othere flag again and bring it back to my base mostly i do this the rest is mostly not realy good at running :p

Shok_Tinoktin
03-17-2005, 01:39 AM
A bit off topic, but who thinks the voice commands are a joke? People use all the commands as taunts. When im playing, i like to use voice commands instead of typing, because i can move and shoot while doing it, but its pointless. No one responds to voice commands. My guess is they assume I'm just playing with them. It annoys me to no end.

Joetheeskimo
03-17-2005, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by Nokill
mostly i do this the rest is mostly not realy good at running :p

Everyone runs the same speed, there's no such thing as being "good at running" in RC. Unless you mean being able to run without getting killed.

Shok -- maybe so, but have you noticed most players don't respond to ANYthing you say, voice or not? :rolleyes:

Nokill
03-17-2005, 09:01 AM
i know mostly not but sometimes thay do and then all is fine :D

and yes i mean running *dancing* whitout getting killed :p

Shok_Tinoktin
03-17-2005, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by joetheeskimo5
Shok -- maybe so, but have you noticed most players don't respond to ANYthing you say, voice or not? :rolleyes:

Well, I have gotten people to listen to me, but never with the voice commands. Still, I see your point. I don't know how many times I've thrown thermal detonators at teammates coming up the elevator on the ghostship map. Is it really so hard to understand "dont use the elevator"?

The Spartan
03-17-2005, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by Oidar
I think the Trandos are awesome I usually end up on the Trando side and have no problems with it. Most people don't set their games up for auto-select. IT should be Auto-select in most cases cause people seem to be like. OMG trando nooooooooooo.
I've been on more winning Trando teams than I have Clones. People are petty anyway. Its like omg I've gotta play the good guy or I'll suck horribly. I've even seen people spec an entire match till someone leaves the clone team. Its sad really. Most people just suck.

You haven't been in the same games as me then apparently. I am almost always commando and my team ALWAYS wins.

I may "Suck it up" if the patch gives us more customization options. If I am hiding in a shodowy dark area for whatever reason......which IS sometimes necessary when you want to be the top scorer like myself.......A glowing yellow backpack isn't a great thing......A Night Ops clone is. The blaster rifles ARE different, though that doesn't bother me as I usually trade my DC for a ACP SMG if I use anything but pistols and shotties at all.

Fix the higher visibility problems of the trandoshans and I will lead the trandoshans to victory!

And whoever said Bossk would motivate me obviously did not reallize Bossk is just one more reason NOT to be a trando. Bossk like vs Fett like........... What were you thinking. Mandalorians. Nuff said.

Oidar
03-17-2005, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by The Spartan
You haven't been in the same games as me then apparently. I am almost always commando and my team ALWAYS wins.

I may "Suck it up" if the patch gives us more customization options. If I am hiding in a shodowy dark area for whatever reason......which IS sometimes necessary when you want to be the top scorer like myself.......A glowing yellow backpack isn't a great thing......A Night Ops clone is. The blaster rifles ARE different, though that doesn't bother me as I usually trade my DC for a ACP SMG if I use anything but pistols and shotties at all.

Fix the higher visibility problems of the trandoshans and I will lead the trandoshans to victory!

And whoever said Bossk would motivate me obviously did not reallize Bossk is just one more reason NOT to be a trando. Bossk like vs Fett like........... What were you thinking. Mandalorians. Nuff said.


Oh please. Glowing yellow backpack, hiding in the dark. Geezus thats it. Enough of your whining. I don't care what you say. Your just like the other petty people. Oh I don't like the trandos their ugly, their easier to see, blah blah, whine whine.

Oh and do not start the who is better debate, Mandalorians or Trandoshans cause I've got a trump card that beats the mandalorians stupid...ever hear of the Yuuzhan Vong?
'Nuff said I think.

TK-8252
03-17-2005, 08:18 PM
Have your back facing a wall so the yellow glow doesn't stand out as much.

Shok_Tinoktin
03-17-2005, 08:53 PM
Anyone else notice that everyone "always wins"? :confused:

LukeKatarn
03-17-2005, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by PhireStorm
I admit, I like the clones better. BUT i still go on the trando team everyonce in a while. They have cool skins n' such, its just that they have red shields. And, for me a leats red=bad, blue=good. I end up ignoring the clones and shooting at my teammates until i realize what Im doing. lol:( That happens to me ALL the time! lol. In normal death match I'll be a commando. But in team based games, I don't care. I do like the DC 17 better ((Dunno why)) but in team matchs I dun care. Thrandoshans are cool, especilly when yo ucapture a flag ot get a head shot. That Trando saying that is just so cool.

BeBop
03-18-2005, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by The Spartan
A glowing yellow backpack isn't a great thing......A Night Ops clone is.

Here's a little counter point, both the backpack and visor glow on the commandos. Trando's may have a much more glowing backpack, but if they have their back to a wall it wont show. If the clone has their face to the wall it will not be visible.... but that isn't a great thing.

The Spartan
03-18-2005, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by Oidar
Oh please. Glowing yellow backpack, hiding in the dark. Geezus thats it. Enough of your whining. I don't care what you say. Your just like the other petty people. Oh I don't like the trandos their ugly, their easier to see, blah blah, whine whine.

Oh and do not start the who is better debate, Mandalorians or Trandoshans cause I've got a trump card that beats the mandalorians stupid...ever hear of the Yuuzhan Vong?
'Nuff said I think.

*Kills Oidar*
Vong? WTF are you talking about? I don't remember them in the game and the Mandalorians beat Vong anyway because Fett led the True Mandalorians against them successfully (without the need of a lightsaber) when he took up the mantle of Mandalore (Insider 80). You, refrain from talking.

The Spartan
03-18-2005, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by BeBop
Here's a little counter point, both the backpack and visor glow on the commandos. Trando's may have a much more glowing backpack, but if they have their back to a wall it wont show. If the clone has their face to the wall it will not be visible.... but that isn't a great thing.

You are correct, there are points on a commando that glow as well, but commandos can be all dark, blues, and greys........which you will notice camos in with every level. Bright yellow camos in with.....well.......nothing. It is a small thing. Trandshans are not on par with cliones IMO, but in others they are. Considering the teams are always even in the games I play, or one man from being such, it really is a dud of a topic. When you try to join commando if there are too many you will get a message saying such so in reply to the thread host, suck it up and stop losing.

Oidar at Work
03-18-2005, 11:44 AM
[/Rant]
Spartan,
I'm sorry, only little kids that want to play the good guy dislike the trandos. Your probably one of those kids that always had to be a cop when playing cops and robbers.

Its sad, your the reason this thread was started. People like you who suck so bad they have to cover up the fact and say, Oh well..Blah blah blah blah (see by this point I've decided to stop paying any attention to anything you write cause your an idiot)

*flame removed*
[/End Rant]

*directed at everyone else*
See what I mean. geezus people like that annoy the crap out of me. He must think he is on some holy quest to prove to everyone that the clones are superior. Bah, he needs a wookiee to smack him upside the head with a lightsaber.

Removed your flame, don't do it again. Instead report his posts to a moderator like myself
-Sith

The Spartan
03-18-2005, 02:40 PM
Didn't I tell you you were not allowed to talk anymore?

What makes you think I am a kid?

*flame removed*

I removed your flame, don't do it again
-Sith

El Sitherino
03-18-2005, 02:46 PM
I have an idea. How about everyone shut up. Don't like trando's don't play as one, and don't come in here tearing at others just because they want a balanced battle.

For those dissing the clone fanboys, don't.

Next person to try and start something up is going to find themselves in a world of hurt.

El Sitherino
03-18-2005, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by The Spartan
Considering the teams are always even in the games I play, or one man from being such, it really is a dud of a topic. When you try to join commando if there are too many you will get a message saying such so in reply to the thread host, suck it up and stop losing. There was a major balance issue when the game was first released, people all wanted to play as clones, think before you speak.

And quiet down on the flame crap.

The Spartan
03-18-2005, 02:56 PM
I have had it since day one and have seldom experienced unbalancing due to that........sorry about the flame :D

Oidar
03-18-2005, 03:28 PM
hmm, wouldn't consider anything I said a flame but hey thats me.
I speak the truth and don't sugar it up.

as for teams being unbalanced, yup its the whole. I wanna be a cop and not a robber. Maybe its cause people want to stand out.....in a group of people that look just like them. Doesn't matter anyway I'd much rather be a wookiee if we had the option.

Shok_Tinoktin
03-18-2005, 03:46 PM
In my experience, the problem is more that so many people leave, that it winds up being more people leaving from one team then the other, and it gets unbalanced like that. I've had games where too many people are trandos, almost as much as too many people are clones.

TK-8252
03-18-2005, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by The Spartan
so in reply to the thread host, suck it up and stop losing.

It is common sense that people join the team that needs the most help, meaning usually the Trandos. I find it displeasing when people don't use common sense, which is something everyone should always be using. That is therefore not something I should have to suck up. "Stop losing"... well there's no I in team.

The Spartan
03-18-2005, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by TK-8252
It is common sense that people join the team that needs the most help, meaning usually the Trandos. I find it displeasing when people don't use common sense, which is something everyone should always be using. That is therefore not something I should have to suck up. "Stop losing"... well there's no I in team.

Valid point. If I can't get my way and be a Clone, I will help the Trandos and not wait or leave while I cry about my misfortune. Also, if I see the Top scores for clones are around 40 and Trandos around 9.......Well, there is no sport in me winning like that so *I* do go where I am needed if I have too. As much as I enjoy clones, and do see why people hate being trandoshans, I agree. I don't find balnce to be a problem, but when the 8 best players just have to be clones, it ruins the gaming experience for all. So *I* will excercise some common sense if only for the selfish reason of personal challenge.

And as far as the team goes. There is no team in SWRC multi :P My clan has not yet picked it up and rarely do I meet a random individual who wants to do anything but run arround like a wild man, which leaves me having to do the same.

Oidar, I read your post before the edit and I don't remember you having a flame either, but then I have no tact when I make my oppinions known so I would just see the oppinion when I read and not really notice the flame...... and yeah, Wookies are awsome in this game.....and in general......